With game journos new found hate towards nintendo, what are the chances for another 6/10 review?

The fact that you care what subhuman journos think makes you a faggot

>>715438341
kek it's funny when they retracted and gave the switch version a 9

>>715438314 (OP)
it will get the most lukewarm 8.5 in history

>>715438806
The seething after E33 gets stomped in the ground will be funny to watch.

>>715439227
Deluded
Expedition 33 already confirmed for goty slot

Last time we had an ape as a protag the game got slammed for not being diverse or inclusive enough, so yeah it is possible.

>>715439313
Damn that anon hit the nail on the head that you were an.E33 Redditor

>>715439365
>everything I don't like is reddit
take your meds
E33 literally has non shitposting daily /v/ threads that hit bump limit.
It's liteally masterpiece of this decade, on par with baldurs gate and elden ring

>>715439452
Ok cool, but that still doesn't explain why E33 sissy's are insecure over DK and Nintendo.

>>715438314 (OP)
9.9 metacritic

>>715438314 (OP)
Someone will do it for attention

>>715438314 (OP)
With how positive the previews have been, there's no chance. This will be one of the highest rated games on the year.

>new found
Game journos have been seething about nintendo since the early 2000s when they stopped making movie games like oot or mm

>>715439770
No one is insecure but yourself. E33 is objectively better than DK and everyone but you can see that.

>>715440242
This anon will be seething when DK has a 96 metascore Wednesday

>>715438314 (OP)
They only rate Nintendo games low because Nintendo doesn't pay them for reviews.

>>715440242
>E33 is objectively better than DK
Dk isnt out yet anon are you confused?

>>715440351
He's a retard who plays lel serious edgy games for lel serious edgy people like himself.

>>715440318
>>715440351
DK is nothing new nor groundbreaking.

My honest guess.
Bananza will beat E33 in review scores. But E33 will claim the GotY.
And honestly. I am more than fine with that. Assuming Bananza is actually good.

I'm expecting Bananza to be Nintendo's best AAA game in the Switch 1/2 era.

>>715440351
When DK story made anyone to just sit and think about things in the silence?
Thought so

>>715440464
So just like E33? Not an ounce of originality in that game.

>>715438314 (OP)
its funny when /v/ users pretend to care about game reviewers as soon as they are on the same "side"
No convictions or integrity.

>>715440464
DK Bananza is literally groundbreaking :^)

>>715440242
a generic rpg realistic game? kys anon retard.

>>715439452
lol
ok but i stopped playing after 2 hours so it wasnt that fun.

Are leaks seriously verboten on here? Feels unusual

>>715440546
I read a book when I want to reflect. Enjoy a fat fuck crocodile stealing your GotY's thunder

>>715440687
LOL

>>715440809
The thread got yeeted because it was titled like a general, which is against le rules for some reason.

>>715439972
Yeah prolly a few days later when it might be close to be rated the best platformer ever and then some nobody posts a 4/10 so it doesnt reach that high so everybody hate visits them

>>715440732
>DK Bananza is literally groundbreaking

>>715440546
wow if that actually happened it reflects more on you than the game.
I'm sharing a board with fucking pea brains who were blown away by E33's story, lmao

>>715440242
>tfw E33 gets spit roasted by DK and Metroid at the game awards

>>715440546
What?
Good for you that it had such an impact on you, but they're going for two totally different feels.
DK wants to entertain the player, make them have fun with the product. E33 knows its user base hasnt read a book ever so even surface level messages will be seen as deep by the user.

>>715438380
This
Journos don't matter, they are incompetent, corrupt, ideological shills. You don't hate them enough.

>>715439770
>>715440603
E33 is funded by a chinese company, NetEase, that uses a lot of bots/shills.

>>715441084
That'll actually cause E33 to win due to splitting the Nintendo vote.

>>715438314 (OP)
>don't care about leaks
>don't care if K Rool is in
>don't care about timeline theories
>don't care about Metacritic
>don't care about consolewarfags
>just want to finally play the game and go apeshit and wreck everything in sight
Simple as

>>715439972
My money is on Jim Sterling

>>715441161
Metroid and DK are pretty different games. Different fan bases.

>Yoooo I can break the ground
This shit is literally just Minecraft you retards

>>715441310
Minecraft got ruined by microsoft, its gay now.

80~ is my guess. Give it +2 points either way.

>>715441310
>minecraft without crafting
Cool, sounds fun

>>715441310
>Yo in E33 I can literally do the turn based and parry attacks!

This shit is Paper Mario

>>715441309
nta but I think the Retro Studios games created a moderate crossover

>>715441402
Super Mario RPG*. Give Square credit, E33 is one massive Square ripoff.

You're not even grasping at straws anymore
Shamefur dispray

>>715441208
Based dk game enjoyer

>>715440464
lmao what? E33 is a UE5 asset flip. Everything about their art style and gameplay is stolen (enemies from dark souls, UI from Persona, gameplay from Mario RPG). Story is written by a literal redditor. 0 originality or innovation

I don't know why there's so much hype and pre-coping about this game. I am looking forward to it, but it's because I like collectathons and it looks like a decently fun one and not much more than that. I don't see what makes it GOTY material.

>>715442075
Because games are fairly weak in 2025 and a fun competent platformer would be one of the better things you can hope for.
Fucking astro bot won GOTY recently, i mean come on.

>>715442075
>Nintendo makes a big 3d platformer
>its a love letter to the franchise
>voxel technology and transformations combo makes for a FUN playground
>even if the K Rool thirst was artificial, they delivered anyway
I liked E33 and DS2, and Im sure the latter is getting the goty at Geoffs awards. But Bananza is pure vidya enjoyment

>>715438341
>but like the level design
Journalism is such a fucking joke. I'm glad ai is making them obsolete because they were too shit for too long.

>>715442568
>ames are fairly weak in 2025
Expedition
Stellar Blade
Death Stranding 2

Take your meds, you don't even like video games

>>715443092
The problem lies with Tropical Freeze's reluctance to stray too far from the formula of its predecessor--or indeed, many a '90s platformer--without maintaining the same levels of quality, and without adding anything meaningful along the way. When we're spoilt with the likes of Rayman: Legends on the PS4, Tropical Freeze feels like a step back in time--and not in the good, retro-chic kind of way. None of its levels are bad, but while its competitors mix up elegant puzzles, platforming challenges, and clever new ideas to great effect, here your journey gets very familiar, very quickly.

>>715443103
E33 is the best jrpg of the year, sure. It feels like a disscount FF17

DS2 has its moments but the game is trivialized compared to the first one, and I dont mean like the QoL, most of the map is flat, floods and quakes barely do anything, it gives you ton of tools but you barely need any anyway

Stellar Balde was released 14 months ago you retard

>game journos new found hate towards nintendo
/v/ is not a game journo

>>715443243
I'm not critiquing their actual critique. Any journalist who uses "like" in that way deserves the rope. It's one of the most glaring signs of a shit writer.

>>715441161
Won't ds2 win

>>715443103
I'll give you E33, but DS2's reception has been very mixed. And Stellar Blade was last year.

>>715439313
>>715439452
>>715439227
E33 have killed any talks about rpg on this board

>>715438314 (OP)
>sonygroes already damage controlling when this game gets a 93+ score

>>715444991
It has failed to make as big of an impact here or on the industry as Persona 5.

>>715439452
You're confusing quality with popularity. Not to say E33, Elden Ring, BG3 etc are necessarily bad. But you're making your argument look weak by implicitly saying "It's good because it's liked by a lot of people".

>>715441208
Based

>>715443103
>Expedition
FOTM
>Stellar Blade
Forgettable
>Death Stranding 2
Lol, lmao even

If you don't play classic PC games and Nintendo exclusively you aren't a gamer

>>715446508
Anon, they are a very good games
Stop being so upset about it

>>715438341
what's wrong with this review?

>>715449601
it's too heckin negative

>>715439452
>shitposting daily /v/ threads
shillslop

>>715449738
shouldn't reviews be more negative than they are? every new game comes out and it's this half hearted 8/10 everytime. if every game is an 8 then what are we even doing here, where's the innovation, the fresh ideas and gameplay, this is some groundhog day shit.

>>715449959
TF is one of the best platformer games ever made and was legit reason to buy wii u back in the day
You can be negative, but this was just like giving shit game a high score. Totally out of touch with reality

>>715450072
I just don't see it, why is it the best? you realize how many good ones exist already? what did it bring to the genre??

>>715441084

Geoff would never

>>715438314 (OP)
Kek didn't you tendies use to defend journos till now?

>>715449601
The boss sucked but the levels where cool.

>>715441208
my favorite DK face

>>715438341
tropical freeze was boring shit

>>715451078
tropical freeze was better than whatever garbage platformer you "prefer"
>B-but it's boring if I play safe and don't try to collect anything!
Filtered.

>>715450072
>>715451415
are you niggers going to explain your position, or are you full of shit

>this thread

Thursday will be hilarious. GOTY confirmed

>>715452019
It'll be mid, just like others dk games

>>715451863
I just explained why people who claim this game is boring are absolute, non-sentient plebs.

>>715439227
Why am I seeing so much E33 talk in donkey kong threads? They dont seem related at all, Are fans of that game really THAT worried banaza is gonna steal goty from it lol?

>>715441208
Same. Got it digitally pre-ordered (going digital more due to travel hopes) and so looking forward to it being ready to go once I get home on Thursday.

>>715452483
Explain >>715451863
There nothing good about midkong

>>715441161
E33 will lose votes to Death Stranding 2 so it evens out

>>715443103
>I don't see what makes DK goty material
>proceeds to suck off ff-ripoffs and walking simulators
You "people" are not fooling anyone

>>715451863
Aside from DKs momentum based movement and how well he plays with companions like Dixie and Cranky (Diddy got a bit shafted due to Dixie's ability basically being Diddy's but better), its the level design and overall journey.
The level design builds on what 2D Mario and the Rare DKC games by not just coming up with an interesting idea for every level, but by coming up with 2-3 interesting ideas every level and mixing and matching those ideas in a surprising way by tying them to a specific beat of an overall theme for each island.
You will not know how they evolve or twist and idea on a first playthrough as they really repurpose ideas in a way that yiur not expecting, yet is still satisfying.
The levels are made longer as a result, but the time to get to/engage with those ideas is shortened compared to DKC Returns, and they happen way more often.
And it happens at a blistering pace compared to the average platformer (even compared to DKC Returns).
It also improved on DKC Returns by replacing blowing with pulling and reducing breakables in every level in order to increase the pace/flow of the gameplay.
The biggest change to DK is allowing him to grab and chuck low-tier enemies to the players delight.
And yet the game still retains the challenge that DKC games are known for.
Plus David Wise knocked it out of the fucking park with his tracks. Different vibe from Rare era DKC, but thats a plus as its trying something new and succeeds imo.
Those are generally the reasons why TF is considered to be Retro's magnum opus.
At least for those not butthurt by them not moving onto Prime after DKC Returns

>>715453365
you realize how many good platformers exist already? what did it bring to the genre??

>>715443243
Tropical Freeze is literally known for straying away from the 90s platformers with the way it does level design.
You were not seeing a level introduce multiple ideas, building on them, and mixing and matching them in a single level till Tropical Freeze
What are you on about?

>>715453647
New level design patterns and approaches to gimmicks per level.
You were not seeing a game introduce multiple gimmicks per level, and synergizing or repurposing multiple gimmicks, till TF

>>715452351
you did not

>>715441301
>Jim Sterling
erm I think you mean Lady Stephanie Sterling, you bigot.

>>715453365
>DKs momentum based movement
Mario did it first and still does it. What about DK is so significant it warrants mention?
>companions
Diddy is a glorified health meter and double jump though.
> evolve or twist and idea
Mario does this
>compared to DKC Returns
I imagine DKC TF is better than other DKC games because it's more modern.
>by replacing blowing with pulling
Why is that better, how is it not the same thing?
>grab and chuck low-tier enemies
Mario does this
>challenge
>David Wise
It's hard and has good music, but this is not a good game make.

>>715452019
>>715452185
Why are you people so delusional?

>>715438314 (OP)
>With game journos new found hate towards nintendo, what are the chances for another 6/10 review?
tendies really believe this

>>715440546
When the banana hoard was taken.

>>715440732

>>715449601
it's factually incorrect

>>715438314 (OP)
Dunno, nintendo sites are giving a $10 FPS boost to BOTW and TOTK 100/100 scores

The Nintendo penalty is very real. Jour os have been pissed at Nintendo since the N64 and Gamecube because they never played along with the circlejerk that developed around faggots like Keighley, G4, etc. When they killed E3 and their exclusive access with the Direct system, the journos lost their minds. I haven't paid a whit of attention to journos since GG outed them all. Theyre retarded niggers.

I anticipate a flood of literally who videos saying "sirs, this is not the Don Kinkon, I remember from the childhood!", and people who play the game in earnest to have fun with it.

>>715443103
Point made, right? Those are literally just a clone of 90's Square games, another Soulslike, and quasi survival game where you deliver packages.

>>715454141
>Mario did it first and still does.
No he doesnt, they changed his movement to precision after SMB3. You never move nearly with as much speed or momentum in any Mario game since SMB3. Much less Retro's DKC games.
DKC is notable to how carrying momentum still requires engaging with the level through something like chaining rolls or Crank Komgs cane bounce, whereas Mario had to stay in the air and avoid walls. (SMBW's cape basically lets you ignore levels in this regard).
>Diddy is a glorified health meter and double jump
If we're being reductive than I could say the same about Mario's powerups.
But legitimately you need that health pool on a first playthrough since the game can be pretty damn difficult. The extra hearts Retro's games are warrated.
And Diddy is more of a hover than a double jump. Dixie is a lift/safety lift (doest save you from falling like a double jump ahould), and Cranky lets you maintain momentum with his cane bounce, which can also be used on certain hazardous surfaces.
>Mario does this
Mario does not. Mario levels follow Kishotenketsu pattern of presenting a level idea in order to keep it simple and straightforward (Mario Wonder kinda subverts this, but not entirely).
TF goes Kishoten 2-3times then does its own thing by reintroducing the patterns theme and giving you a entire new mechanic with the theme that was already established. Before ending in a ketsu that builds on all of what it did before.
>Why is that better, how is it not the same thing
Pulling is more immediate and precise comapred to blowing, they also repurpose it into pulling down on ropes and pulling down on climbables comapred to just blowing a new object or enemy in DKCR
>Mario does this
He generally only does this with shells, DK does it with every mob.
>challenge
More satisfying, get fucked
>David Wise
Makes a good game with all the stated above

>>715453365
Tropical Freeze and Returns are indeed, fantastic games

>>715438341
The problem is that DK wasn't looking into the camera to go "THIS... IS... LE ART!!! GAMES ARE LE ART!!!" every 5 seconds so the journo could feel like he had done something meaningful with his life and not be depressed about how disappointed his father was in him for having dedicated his life to covering video games in a way that isn't even sincere or insightful. and because there was no parry.

>>715440464
>copy inception's plot but make the characters even more retarded
>hire ben starr to do his patented ben starr voice for the five hundredth time
>design the main quest encounters so none of the turn based elements matter, the game never pushes you to engage with them, because all the focus is on hitting the parry button when the whoosh sound happens
HOOOOOLY INNOVATIVE ART IS SAVED EAT YOUR HEART OUT TOLSTOY COPE AND SEETHE MICHELANGELO GAMES ARE ART

I want dk to win goty over that frogslop dogshit so we can get tons of art of lune getting plapped to death by dk while cuckso and cuckstave cry in the corner

>>715450256
>I just don't see it
That's because you don't actually play games and rather watch streamerfags play it. It's why momentum-less trash like astrobought gets praised as well as mid games like Rayman Legends. Because when you watch a game rather than play it, it's not about the movement and how it plays, but how many gimmicks are packed into every level.

>>715454141
>>715456251
Forgot to add that DKs coyote time adds more depth to how he can engage with a level.
Not too generous, but generous enough to let you try different routes through a level
And Retro Devs do not waste that opportunity by putting collectibles in difficult spots where you need to know how to use CT in order to grab them.

>>715454141
>>715456251
>>715457503
And thats all to say that barely any, if any at all, platformers from AAA to indie are doing what TF did.
A 3D Donkey Kong doing what TF to the same level of success would be incredible. But the sandbox focus of Bananaza and some of the early challenge levels present in the kiosk demos dont really hint to that.
Would be out of scope/not conteibuting to their main goal tragically.
Its a sad state of affairs

>>715456251
>If we're being reductive than I could say the same about Mario's powerups.
My point is that it's not very praise worthy to say that extra health and powerup is contextualized as a character. We already have Mario doing extra health and powerup already.
Mario absolutely does evolve and twist the level design as the game progresses. It didn't just happen with Mario Wonder, it happens in all the 2D Mario games after the first two.
Also DK Bananza is going to be awesome, cope.

>>715454141
>Compared to DKC Returns
The Rare DKC games kind of suffered from coming out at the time that they did.
The 4:3 aspect ration meant that, unless they shrunk the player character (which they werent gonna do because they wanted to show off their 3D models, which were revolutionary at the time) level navigation become more about memorization and trial-and-error due to the lack of screen real estate. Modern DK allows for reactions and saves to be mlre of a valid strategy thanks to being able to see further ahead comapred to before.
Additonally, Rare DKs hitboxes are pretty wonky and could be argued to have resulted in a more static apporach to hiw you deal with obstacles and enemies compared to the leniency modern DK has by comparison. Which can feel more like BS difficulty than it can fair difficulty.
But they really were able to make do with what they had, and that classic DK atmosphere is still timeless.

>>715458656
long story short DKC TF is easily better, it's nice and modern

>>715458830
But its so fucking sad how little games try to do what it did.
The evolution of level design patterns we could have if more devs went out there the way DKC TF did would be so damn engaging for more experienced players compared to what we have now.
(Aside from just increasing the challenge, which would be fun for those that like a challenge, but arent as approachable. Meaning not that many big studios are gonna do it since it could be a cost-sink T. -T)

>>715438314 (OP)
that usually happens when the game is actually good

>>715438314 (OP)
Its novel enough to good-to-great reviews.
A lot of modern reviews tend to value aesthetic, audio, interactive, and immersive elements of a games experience more than a games mechanics, systems, and level design.
So long as the latter 3 dont get in the way of the former 5, or even occassionally does something novel that synergizes with the former 5 with as little boring or bad outcomes as possible, it'll get good-great scores

>>715457503
interesting

>>715459907
>Its novel enough
Astroboy literally was released less than year ago

>>715460456
Yeah, its why so many reviewers were saying its one of the best Nintendo games not made by Nintendo

>>715458656
>Modern DK allows for reactions and saves to be mlre of a valid strategy thanks to being able to see further ahead comapred to before.
Well...
>There are some cheap tricks used along the way too. Thankfully, they're rare, but when they do appear, it's frustrating. Sometimes I'd perform a leap of faith during a particularly tricky section, only to land on an enemy on the other side that had lurked just out of shot. Other times I'd be racing down a zip line, only to find that the visual cues for jumps, like well-placed bananas and coins, were all too easy to miss, causing me to plummet to my death. It's very much a process of trial and error when it comes to surviving some of Tropical Freeze's cheaper tricks. Extra lives are plentiful, though, and if you get stuck, you can always purchase more using coins you collect along the way.

>>715438314 (OP)
>>715441739
That Xenofag deleted his post about K Rool.
Hmmm....

>gave up the comfy leak threads for this gay baiting thread
Sigh...

even if you get a game under the counter, why would you play it before the official release date? nintendo has a log and can see the software your console ran. and they can see that you broke the rules. why would you risk sanctions? people are fucking retarded

>>715460681
I do think some of the levels in TF employ those design tricks from Rare's DKC games with a purpose.
Whether its because the level designer was a fan of them,
they were doing it with the intention to flow into speedrunning by rewarding the level of investment a speedrunner puts into a level with hazards/obstacles that reward timing/memorization/trial-and-error problem solving,
or they felt that they had to include them because it had a strong association to the "core identity" of the DKC games.
Id say that its not frustrating to the level that it just becomes an exercise in frustration, but to make that first time experience interesting as a way of getting players to "respect" what the level has in-store for them.
However much you like that depends on the person and their mood at the time imo.
But it is a tool in the toolbox that helps bring some variety to engaging with levels ino.

>tendies think anyone who doesn't rate their slop 10/10 is a hater

>>715461028
Many people play games prior to release for reviewing purposes, and Nintendo doesn't have the Switch serial numbers of everyone who gets a code. There's no way to prove that someone wasn't just playing a review copy. I know because I've reviewed Switch games before.

>>715461642
See>>715459907
Nintendo tends to feed the ego a bit better imo with their interactivity having an attitude to it, usually a whimsical one.
But their mechanics, system, and level design are usually rock-solid from first parties and tends to be a part of their main avenue of engagement to their consumers.
They havent always been averse to recycling that avenue though.
And how they packaged that journey down said avenue.
Or if they think the novelty of that avenue should be all that there is.Which you could argue they did with the NSMB games.
Sony and Microsoft do have games that wander down that same path and appeal to me.
But they usually focus on aesthetic and immersive elements moreso to sell. (Which isnt an inherently bad thing, Im just generally not in the mood for what they usually offer)
Sony seems to be starting to offer games that focus on those elements that Nintendo focuses on again.
And Xbox's rumoured B&K reboot may do the same, but largely Nintendo stands alone in that regard

>>715462206
Okay but if the game is bad people are allowed to rate it as such. Can't just give it a 10 because Nintendo made it.

>>715444018
The judge panel will vote against it due to Pekora, to Geoff's dismay.

>>715438314 (OP)
Probably not Odyssey got a 97/100 on metacritic despite it being the weakest 3D Mario (ok it was a bit better than sunshine but whatever) and this is by the same team

>>715462517
I mean sure, Im not going to cause a fuss if it didnt jive with someone.
If they try to shove their reasoning in my face, ad naseum, and buckle when they bring it to an open forum and are pissed that someone is questioning or not buying it on face value, thats on them.
Shitposting an opinion like that, repeatedly, and then getting mad or combative about people being annoyed about it, is on them.
Of course if their baiting for engagement or (You)'s, they can fuck off.
Though I cant guarantee other fans of a Nintendo game will think about it like I do. (And can say the same for any tribalistic idiot looking for mental stimulation on this hellsite)

>>715460456
Yeah after Astro Bot pushed the genre forward this just feels kinda dull in comparison. I hope the next 3D Mario is coming soon and turns out better.

>>715438314 (OP)
If it's anything like what their sales indicate, unless journos collectively develop a backbone, and don't shill out like they're oh so accustomed to by this point, I doubt we'd see anything lower than "8/10" or whatever equivalent metric

>>715463183
I would like to ask what you thought Astrobot did that pushed the genre then.
In my mind it would be its use of the Dualsense in its interactivity.
And how that factored into its level design.
Without it, itd still be a great game, but nowhere near as viscerally engaging imo.
Bananza doesnt have the peripherally depth of Astrobot due to what the Joycons are. But its use of Voxels in platforming could be considered somwthing that pushes the genre forward.
And I think DK has a better base moveset than Astrobot imo.
Allows for a more interesting way to reach the goal with just his base moves, whereas Astro relies on the mechanic in the level he's in.
Nothing wrong with it, but appeals more to my taste personally.

>>715438314 (OP)
oh you can bet the (((media))) will try their hardest to tank its grade.
Mario and Zelda are untouchable, because lowering its grade will tank THEIR reputation, but since this is DK, they will make sure it won't reach 90