pov: you're about to play the greatest FPS in the last 10 years

>>715463064 (OP)
you're only 5 years late bro

>>715463579
Zoomers hop in time machines and play games long after the fact

>>715463579
>>715464027
nothing better has come out since

>>715463064 (OP)
>spam le buttons to replenish ammo and hp

>>715465271
>describing a mechanic and adding 'le' makes it bad

>>715465271
>og doom
>le walk to corner of the room to pick up ammo

nudoom is unbearably gay
shooters designed for consoletards aren't shooters

member when /v/ hated this game and said it wasn't doom

>>715463064 (OP)
doom eternal has been complete ass from day one

>>715467691
>shooters designed for consoletards
This doom is a 10x more complex mechanics wise than any other doom that came before it.

>>715463064 (OP)
I ended up liking The Dark Ages more.

>>715467691
the original doom didn't even let you aim up or down

>>715463064 (OP)
Glory kills ruin it

>>715468069
Yeah says a lot about how bad Eternal is

>>715467543
lol nice try

>>715463064 (OP)
Literally the greatest FPS ever made. Nothing compares in terms of gameplay, difficulty and mechanical complexity.

>>715463064 (OP)
True. Now what

>>715463064 (OP)
>requires Bethesda account
and I'm still not playing it

>>715467819
>convoluted rock paper scissors bullshit
wow such complex mechanics
I sure love bling bling wahoo rainbow glorysuck weaponwheel tedium

>>715463064 (OP)
Mogged by Ion Fury.

>>715463064 (OP)
POV: You are an old turd millenial about to get BTFO

>>715463064 (OP)
But this is its sequel.

>>715468475
>Story

>>715467819
this is the worst argument I have ever seen

>>715463064 (OP)
Meh I enjoyed the citadel more

>>715468882
Doom 2016 is the white rice of NuDooms. I cannot fathom liking it over its sequels, the only thing 2016 has going for itself over the sequels is narrative restraint and avoiding narrative flanderization. In every other metric 2016 is just a very vanilla and simplistic proof-of-concept for a NuDoom, I truly believe the only person to consider it the best one is simply a person who despises NuDoom in general and by default likes the one that is the least developed.

>>715469419
>simple is worse

that's exactly the reason faggot

You are not allowed to critique this game unless you have beaten it on Nightmare.

>>715469543
Simple in this case means unengaging. It's very disappointing to go from Eternal's movement or Dark Ages movement to 2016 movement which is just hopping around at an awkward too-fast-for-walking-but-too-slow-for-running pace. The difficulty sucks because even Nightmare is piss easy due to the Rich Get Richer rune and the fact no demon in the age is a threat as long as you have fingers. 2016's gameplay is also the worst possible offender of "lock you into a small room and spawns 3 demons at a time until you reach the kill goal" meme and the sequels are drastically better in this regard.

>>715469419
>I truly believe the only person to consider it the best one is simply a person who despises NuDoom in general and by default likes the one that is the least developed.
nvke

>>715468381
that's pretty much it. I can dumb down games too.

>>715469419
>narrative restraint
this is almost true for Doom16 but it locks you into unskippable cutscenes that are unbearably boring

>>715463064 (OP)
>pov: you're about to play the greatest FPS
Could have stopped there

>>715468780
>filtered by rock paper scissors
grim

completely mogged by ultrakill
>eternal bosses are pure horrible dogshit, ultrakill bosses are among the best in action games
>eternal has cutscene finishers, ultrakill has real melee mechanics with physics, launching/hooking enemies, stomping and blasting
>apex of eternal skill ceiling is just shooting guns while swapping, ultrakill has fucked up combinations of projectiles
>eternal bingbingwahoo sequences are a snore, ultrakill has platforming well integrated into levels
>the furthest eternal movement goes is boosting yourself with ballista and spamming dash in circles across a derivative arena, in ultrakill riding on top of your own rocket is just normal

>>715471892
tranny game

>>715471552
That looks awful.

>>715467691
what the fuck are you talking about nigga, doom eternal is the most anti-console shooter possible, in fact it's pretty much impossible to play well on a console because of the lack of quick switch

>>715463064 (OP)
DA = 2016 > eternal(ly out of ammo)

>>715471892
tried ultrakill and it was literal garbage of highest order. the boss i faced (maybe first level or something) was literally just following you by running and spamming a fucking badly animated swinging attack (maybe, i couldn't even tell because it looked so shitty and amateurish) and in general the enemies in ultrakill had little to no AI, they're just running targets that aren't even trying.
Also the "speedrun" tranny aspect of the game boils down to just memorizing every move because again, it has little to no AI and is just a static tranny simulator instead of an action game that requires real-time reflexes and constant thought.
eternal > ultrakill, and it isn't even close.

>>715472223
its fun if you actually play it

>>715471892
Dusk is better than Ultrakill

>>715465271
Confirmed didn't play on the real difficulty

>going from this to the dark ages
VERY annoyed that its shaping to be the FPS game of the year only because other fps titles shot themselves in the foot

>>715471552
I fucking love this shit.

>>715472223
Nah it's fun, takes skill, reflexes, situational awareness and timing.

>>715473025
Prime 4 will save us

>>715468780
Why'd you get so filtered then hmm?

>>715463064 (OP)
>yeah bro have all these guns
>take a free grenade button too
>oh btw, this is actually a 1st person platformer because shooting things is too video gamey
eternal sucks

>>715463064 (OP)
>Ballista, Tactical Scope, SSG, repeat
For 8-12 hours.

>>715473025
I preferred The Dark Ages. Despite the nuDoom trilogy jerking off Doomguy as being ultra powerful and ultra scary, Dark Ages is the only game that actually delivers on that fantasy.

>>715469769
And your not allowed to criticize my shit until you have eaten some of it

>>715467819
>yeah it is unfun as hell, but it has complex mechanics!
The fucking state of you morons. Get some real life achievements so you don't have to get your self-esteem off being good at dogshit video games.

>>715474035
I've beaten the game on Nightmare with all kinds of weapon combos. You just suck.

>>715476887
Goo goo gaa gaa babby need simple!

>>715463064 (OP)
>pov: you're about to play the greatest FPS of all time

>>715471338
but having to walk around and pick up ammo is way more satisfying and makes way more sense than your retarded zoomer game mechanics that make everything faster and cut out the """boring""" parts in order to extract as much money from you as possible and fry your dopamine receptors

>>715468780
>wow such complex mechanics
actually yes it is more complex than doom 1 and 2
Also those games are much easier to play on console than eternal is as they don't even require aim

>>715476630
Good thing I have no interest in critiquing your fecal matter then

>>715463064 (OP)
Tard game
>I'm le god amongst men
>Whole plot is just you being humanities deus ex machina
>Dogshit arsenal
>Dogshit platforming
>Button spam dogshit
>Glory kills slow down the gameplay to a crawl
>Dogshit deathmach
>Fags will cockride it to death

This game is so fucking ass, It only is popular because consolefags saw gore for the first time on their tard machine and went nuts.

i still can't beat ultra nightmare.

>>715484404
>play master levels no problem around launch
>turn 30
>can barely play them even with regular difficulties

So it goes
>Doom 3
>Doom 1
>Doom 2
>Doom 64
>Doom TDA
>Doom 2016
>Doom Eternal
>Doom Eternal's DLC

Right?

>>715467691
Original doom played better with a controller
There is a reason a bunch of "fps controllers" popped up before aiming up and down on a 3D space became normal with Quake 1 and 2

The most fun I had with dark ages was the prince boss fights because parrying every single hit he does was quite rewarding and fun
Other than that it was a gore nest in a hell level.
I find it quite surprising that all the bitching Eternal had in the last 5 years was exactly how dark ages played. the simons says bullshit everybody and their mom who didn't like eternal bitched about is exactly how TDA plays

>>715485127
>the simons says bullshit everybody and their mom who didn't like eternal bitched about is exactly how TDA plays
huh, what? dark ages is the opposite, ID got so scared of the simon says criticism that in dark ages you can basically carry 1 gun all game and it'll solve every problem as long as you know how to parry
i played with the slow firing nailgun for the entire game and never felt any need to switch

>>715485127
The rest of the game should have been like the final boss.

>>715484673
I'm trying to find some kind of pattern to this order but I'm not seeing it. What am I missing?

>>715485232
Anon, you literally get trained an conditioned to react to the green color in TDA, it is the most simon says ever in this game
Green projectile/attack?, sprint to it and parry
Small demon? shield toss to clear them out
Medium demon? Shield toss to stun it while you shoot it dead for a bit
Big Demon? parry the living shit of the few green attacks they have
The whole game is a mix of these, and the shift from skill based gameplay to a more build based gameplay let's you build your slayer to abuse the shit of this, yeah eternal had the simon says shit too, but at least you didn't have to distillate the whole gameplay into 4 type of interactions after you get the right upgrades

>>715485293
Agreed, id were cowards, they should have dropped the green bullshit and just make every single attack pariable in some way. the game would be a lot more fun and less green light parry red light strafe

>>715486549
that's really stretching the definition of simon says.
small demon? you can literally do anything to them because everything clears them out
medium demon? you can literally do anything to them because every weapon hits like a truck
big Demon? you can literally do anything to them because every weapon hits like a truck, parry if they get in melee range
i literally beat the game on nightmare by just kiting demons with the slow nailgun and only had to melee the bosses or the ones that were too fast - the ones who mechanically require melee like the aggadon
>Small demon? shield toss to clear them out
>Medium demon? Shield toss to stun it while you shoot it dead for a bit
what you are describing is something you yourself did, you found out the most efficient way to deal with something and you defaulted to it. but the game does not punish you for not sticking to this. you don't get punished for not using the shield to clear out chaff, you can just shoot at them with any weapon you like or you can jump from a high place to earthquake them. the game still allows you to do what you want in 80% of cases despite there being a most efficient path

>>715486549
Every attack being parryable would have made the game too easy. Asscrack is fun because he throws out a lot of attacks in quick succession.
id are cowards for not randomizing what projectiles can be parried. Like the Revenant's second and third missile always being parried, and the Cyber Mancs always being the right and leftmost dies of the fence.

>>715463064 (OP)
Pic unrelated I guess

>>715486976
Anon, I can see you are almost understanding me, but something is just not clicking on your head
Yes, I did go the route of being more efficient in tda, because the game being a build your slayer game, gently pushes you towards that. You even said you kept using the impaling nail gun, pretty much the most broken gun in the game. And if you don't do that the game is not very fun. TDA becomes really fun half way through because you have your new toys, very efficient toys that clean the map for you in different ways, but every encounter you have to play the same way
Shield (or what ever you want, maybe you want to use the pulverizer) to clean the fodder demon first because those fuckers slow tracking chain projectiles are the biggest cause of death in this game
Then use something heavy hitting or fast hitting depending of the medium and big demons you have to kill, always fishing for the parries because all parry runes stun or melt the demons away. and if the demon is not dead yet
Bonk to the head
THIS is how you play TDA because the game wants you to play like this
Eternal does not you to play like >>715471552
Eternal wants you to play like a faster 2016, you do not need to do that to make Eternal fun
That is my point on why tda is more simon says, you play it it's way or no way
Eternal? you play it like 2016, you have fun. You play it like an adderall junkie after 4 espressos, you can also have fun.

>>715463064 (OP)
Bad bait. Gameplay was better than 2016, but platforming, story, multiplayer and level design were way worse.

>>715489006
>gameplay was better
hmmm almost as if that's the most important aspect of a fucking VIDEO GAME

TDA is the first bad Doom game.

>>715489484
Why is it bad?

>>715489484
im almost done downloading it and i know im going to have a good time. ill probably never play it after i finish but whatever

>>715477239
>i deliberately handicapped myself because the game was too easy otherwise
I mean I remember doing the same thing with Mario back in the day but I guess autism is a case by case thing.

>>715463064 (OP)
That's not a particularly high bar tbqh

>>715490964
he meant the best fps game of all times.

>>715472846
No, you think it is because the visual flair tailored to trigger the impression on the player. You were treated like a kid by the devs, nothing too far from the baby playing with the shape cubes.

>>715491130
Then the bar is really low

>>715491223
>Then the bar is really low
That's fine if you don't like fps games then, as long as you agree it is the best one

>>715491320
>That's fine if you don't like fps games then
I don't like shit fps games, which is the case for most of modern games thanks to crap like slo mo and casualization

>>715480418
>having to walk around and pick up ammo is way more satisfying
lmao

>>715491223
>you think it is because the visual flair tailored to trigger the impression on the player
lmao doom eternal haters are the most mentally ill freaks on the planet.
>you thought you had fun but in reality the devs tricked you!
what dafuq does this even mean lmao doom eternal haters are literally the "STOP HAVING FUN!" meme hahaha

tiktok brainrot in fps form

>>715491761
>lmao doom eternal haters are the most mentally ill freaks on the planet.
Not eternal; nuDoom.

>what dafuq does this even mean lmao doom eternal haters are literally the "STOP HAVING FUN!" meme hahaha
There are patterns outside game development that can be applied, used or misused into triggering primal responses and behaviours on the players. John Carmack was acknowledging this all the way back in the early 00s

>>715491868
Wouldn't this webm be more impactful if you were doing this on actual enemies and not just fodder you're supposed to chainsaw?

>>715491868
only doom eternal haters are mentally ill enough to purposefully play a game horribly and then say the game is bad. I call it Eternal Derangement Syndrome.

>>715492064
>>715492157

>>715492195
Wow this actually makes GTA V look pretty fun

>>715491868
>>715492195

>>715467819
So it's not actually Doom, because Doom, even Doom 3, has always been mechanically simple with a focus on level design and player choice of how they want to approach combat. Shiternal is a first person single player MOBA, cooldowns included, and it's worse for it.

>>715492621
>focus on [...] player choice of how they want to approach combat
Only if you play continuous like a weenie.

>>715492621
>So it's not actually Doom
You're right, it's in a totally separate league of those other games it shouldn't even be considered as part of the same franchise

>>715463064 (OP)
it felt so fucking slow, couldn't get in to it

>>715493107
>it's in a totally separate league of those other games it shouldn't even be considered as part of the same franchise
NuDoom feels like a sattire of the IP, a literal travesty of sorts.

>>715493072
>focus on [...] player choice of how they want to approach combat
>Only if you play continuous like a weenie.
>play og doom like a madman
>run of ammo
>fuck it and go with the punches/hammer
>mfw

>>715493310
>tranime poster trying to tell me what doom is or isn't

>>715493440
Doom: intrincated map design with gameplay simple and free allowing the player to play and kill with skill on their own input
Cooldown, QTEs automatization, power up filled areas with story undermining the player's freedom: not Doom

>>715493440
>got btfo'd by a tranny buttplug game
Eternalfags forever seething.

>>715472703
>i cant believe the first boss out of like 20 is relatively simple
>i cant believe 1/100 the enemy roster is very basic
you didnt even get past the fucking prelude tutorial retard
https://files.catbox.moe/jbbgzd.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/ysm205.mp4

>>715463064 (OP)
>pov:
Zoom Zoom Eternal

The buttplug game superior and based on the same design blueprint

>>715491587
There is a reason why Doom will be remembered forever, and nu Doom is already forgotten.

>>715494731
Only TDA and 2016 will be forgotten. Eternal is well... Eternal.

>>715494057
first clip, it's literally not possible to tell what the fuck is happening from this clip because the animations/effects are so bad that you have to play it yourself and memorize what each tell means and just repeat it. it's fucking trash. the fact that it requires you to press many buttons quickly doesn't mean it's "among the best in action games", that is just hilarious. I would say the secret boss of all bayonetta games is infinitely better than this and requires about the same execution. i'm not saying doom eternal's bosses are much better (they're the weakest part of the game) but this is even worse. it's all fluff no substance for the easily impressed discord skill gamer.

2nd clip, doesn't seem like anything special? pretty sure the APM here is actually way lower than in high level doom eternal. AND because ultrakill is a tranny speedrun fake skill game, the enemy spawns and behavior and everything is probably static so that you can just memorize it all and do epic speedrun sequence consistently!!! which is anti-thesis to fun in-the-moment action gameplay. and needless to say the graphics look ugly as FUCK and readability is poor, but that's exactly what makes it impressive to a discord gamer, because you equate not being able to tell what's happening = good and skillful!!
still, i'm gonna play through entirety of ultrakill now just to laugh at you in some other thread and to confirm my suspicions that it's just static memorization-heavy tranny game. doom eternal is still the FPS action goat, no contest. "running a circle in an arena using ballista" gets you literally nowhere in the master levels.

>>715496009
Why tf you sound like a goddamn ChatGPT response, nigga?