> NOOO YOU SEE I NEED 99809412809381 NEW LAWS BE MADE TO PROTECT ME EVEN THOUGH I DIDN'T EVEN CARE ABOUT THIS ISSUE UNTIL IT BECAME TRENDY E-CELEB DRAMA

How about... crazy idea! but... how about you DON'T buy shit that's ALWAYS online and you can't play single player?

Do you really need that $500 USD new LoL skin you'll never see again when LoL servers close?

>>715474303 (OP)
normalfaggot consoomers exist

>NOOO YOU SEE I NEED 99809412809381 NEW LAWS BE MADE TO PROTECT ME EVEN THOUGH I DIDN'T EVEN CARE ABOUT THIS ISSUE UNTIL IT BECAME TRENDY E-CELEB DRAMA

>>715474303 (OP)
if I buy a game, I should own it
Even if the game is shit

>>715474594

You're not entitled to own shit.

>>715474303 (OP)
>EVEN THOUGH I DIDN'T EVEN CARE ABOUT THIS ISSUE
When always online games started showing up /v/ would not stop bitching about it. We've cared for longer than you've been alive, tourist

>>715474908
Why are you saying this to random people instead of multi billion dollar corporations?

>>715474908
Not now. But, that's why we get the government to bully corporations into making me entitled to own shit.

>>715474303 (OP)
>how about you DON'T buy shit that's ALWAYS online and you can't play single player?
I already don't, did it occur to you that I would buy more games if they would be playable whenever I want?

>>715474303 (OP)
>how about you DON'T buy shit that's ALWAYS online and you can't play single player?
How about developers stop making their single player games with always online features? The new Hitman trilogy doesn't require the internet for it to run, and yet they force you to be sync'd with their servers at all times. They aren't even bad games, closest we got to Blood Money in ages, yet they still carry that burden. And yes, I am aware of peacock, which is why I am confident the games can run work without being online

>>715475481
>How about developers stop making their single player games with always online features?

If they don't you'll pirate it
> REEE GAMES ARE SHIT TODAY ANYWAYS I'M GONNA PIRATE
>> K we'll make it always online so you cann never pirate it
> REEE STOP KILLING GAMEEESS

>>715475697
The majority of the buyers market doesn't pirate

>>715475847

And the majority of the buyers market has no issue with perma online garbage, people buy literally every new entrance of Fifa.

>>715475847
>the majority of people who buy games don't pirate them
wow dude you're a fucking genius

>>715474303 (OP)
>heh just stop buying online games chud. who cares if they're forcing online drm into everything, just vote with your wallet!

>>715474303 (OP)
We get it you're a shill

>>715474303 (OP)
Any law that inconveniences corporations is a good law.

>>715474908
Megacorps are not entitled to own my money.

>>715474943
This. Who here remembers when nobody could play Bionic Commander Rearmed 2, a single-player game, because of the fucking PSN hack? Fucking ridiculous.

>>715476917
>Megacorps are not entitled to own my money.

Yet you keep giving it to them

>>715476910
wow, you guys actually don't want to be ceos and reap the benefits of the current system?
you would rather change everything to make it harder for the elites than to bide you time and became part of the elite yourself?
didn't realize this website was occupied by soulless cretins

OP is afraid.

>>715477336
>became part of the elite yourself
Statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged.

>>715474303 (OP)
Ok, but think about it.
I don't buy the games.
And a law might inconvenience people making slop games like that. Maybe they'll even stop making slop(doubtful).
It's a win-win?

>>715476665
Yes? Just stop buying things you don't like or think they're good. Like MH Wilds is overwhelmingly negative with only 11% positive user score and yet it outdid Elden Ring during launch. Fucking retards I swear.

>>715477989
most of americans are temporarily-embarrassed millionaires (by design via the american dream). That is how you get hordes of trailer park trash voting against taxes for the rich, because they might get affected by it in the distant future when they will definitely become rich themselves

>>715477336
Tranny

>>715474303 (OP)
The government will certainly fuck it up for me and everyone else but it will also minorly inconvenience a corporation so it's all worth it.
Modern life is good for the misanthropic psychopath. Like me.

>>715474303 (OP)
In a perfect world, that's exactly what would happen.
But a portion of /v/ is now filled with gacha threads so we know the general population is too retarded for that.

I love how the more r/gamingcirlejerk raiders we have the more you see "anti corpo" talk

Go soak your head kids, all it takes for you to immediatly love a corporation is them putting a pride logo on twitter.

>>715474303 (OP)
I already don't buy them, but I want the people who make them to be punished further.

>>715478558
>all it takes for you to immediatly love a corporation is them putting a pride logo on twitter.
rainbow capitalism lost its key jingling power years ago

>>715474303 (OP)
This shit is worthless.
>Its NOT retroactive.
>Aim is NOT to make them playable offline.
>Its mainly aimed at online only slop so most games it applies to is disposable garbage.
>Its hard to justify poor consumers when they play with the knowledge its foty online products with paid shit like cosmetics or gacha pulls.

>>715474303 (OP)
SKG is more than just laws ensuring game companies can’t abruptly shit down games people paid for. It’s about control.
Game companies could easily provide server tools to the public or simply have an end of service announcement posted before release dates. They have 0 issue doing that.
The reason why big companies are shitting themselves over SKG because GaaS and that shit is all about control. They want games that can be shut down at any time so you’re forced to play the sequels.
They want you to be used to buying things not actually being bought and instead being rented even though they said you bought the game.
They want to be able to ban you from game/console for petty reasons so you’re forced to rebuy the $80/$450 game/console.
With SKG, they’d have to use more honest and ethical business practices, which means profits are only 10s of millions instead of 100s of millions.

I miss Marvel Heroes. I miss the money I spent on it. It didn't even shut down because it was unpopular, they just pulled the plug.

>>715478685

You say that but there was massive uproar in reddit when certain corporations didn't put on a rainbow logo and lots of gaming subreddits are in protests to the fact they stated they are never removing their lgbt pride logos from their subreddit icons, like Undertale one.

>>715478790
>redditors are mad about subreddit icons
ok, go back

>>715478790
Reddit is comprised of people who will demand a game be censored and then not support that decision financially. I wouldn't count on their business.

>>715474303 (OP)
Both are valid. People shouldn't be buying shit, but there should also be laws in place to prevent corporations from fucking people over regardless of how dumb those people are.

>>715478345
Truly the perfect goys.

>food analogies

>>715478790
This is more like the reverse where it's now taken as the baseline. Rainbow logo no longer give pleasure, but it's absence produces anger.
Like a drug you've built a tolerance to no longer providing highs, but you still suffer withdrawals when it's gone.

I don't know why you're inclined to defend business practices that target lowest common denominator of the general public, but I suspect it's because you're a member of them. It should be obvious to any adult that choosing not to buy something doesn't create the opposite effect of buying it, so sometimes minor government intervention is needed when a huge portion of a gigantic industry is a scam.

>>715474303 (OP)
We're finally gonna get some votes from France

>>715474908
Yes I am.

>>715474303 (OP)
This position is pure projection. Why are you starting on the basis that *I* buy any of these products?

>>715477336
>wow, you guys actually don't want to be ceos and reap the benefits of the current system?
No.
I want equality, to have my countrymen to be rich.
The top 0.1% owns more money than rest of the people combined. Do they work as hard for it? Have they worked as hard for it?
I doubt.
But
Did they inherit some of it? Did they lie, scam, or took advantage of others for it? Did they make other people's lives worse to get that wealth?
If even one of those are true, then by God almighty why would I have any pity for such people who takes advantage of others for their personal gain? I will never want to be such "human" who treats others as numbers just to make more money.
Who the fuck wants to be voluntarily that kind of person who you find on Epstein's book? Well at least they get people defending them but my parents raised me straight and honest.

>>715478229
Are you fucking insane? You're telling me I should have impulse control? What do you think, that I'm an actual fucking human? I will consoom and jump on the Current Thing™, what the heck do you think everyone else would think if I god forbid do not buy that overpriced game...
Anyways I signed SKG and this will really put these filthy capitalist AAA into their place!
Also all live service games should die!

>>715481368
sounds like a bunch of commie talk to me

It's funny how I can play a 30-year-old Super Nintendo game on a 30-year-old Super Nintendo but I can't play a modern game on modern hardware

>>715483771
Why not?

>>715483891
Because the software is no longer compatible or some shit

>>715474908
I literally, legally am if I paid money for it and you didn't specify front and center that I don't actually own it.

It goes both ways retard, not just corpo execs.

>>715486967
They did specify it. In the 1000 page legalese small text user agreement.

>>715487808
Not viable or legally binding in a real court of law

>>715474303 (OP)
>I don't *personally* murder people, so we really don't need to bother with *yet another law* to make murder illegal.
Fucking idiot.

>>715474908
If I don't own it, then I can pirate it no problem then?

>>715474303 (OP)
>how about you DON'T buy shit that's ALWAYS online and you can't play single player
I don't. So the 9 bazillion new laws aren't my problem.

>>715481368
>comparing inheritance to scamming and lying
kill yourself commie leech

>>715474594
>get a blockbuster card
>blockbuster shuts down
>WUH BUH UH GUH, but I OWNED the BLOCKBUSTER CARD
>I PAID for RENTALS and I BOUGHT some SNACKS at the COUNTER
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk5C-9C3piU

>>715488249
rentals are a service, not a product
buying a game is defined as buying a product, providing ownership

I don't understand why there's such a strong contrarian stance against this, all a multiplayer game would need to do is make it so that players can host and find their own games without needing to use the developer's dedicated servers which is something a lot of older and indie games already do, and all an always online live service would need to do is make the game playable offline without an internet connection and allow for P2P if the game has co-op, which again are things a lot of older and indie games already do.

MMOs either need single player variants or should allow for players to set up their own private servers, a thing which people already do illegally for preservation purposes

>>715488249
Blockbuster cards are free

>>715474303 (OP)
We need laws like these because
A. Capitalism is competitive for PROFIT, not a better product. Lolbertarians conflate the 2 and don’t understand that profit also includes corner cutting and unethical business practices.
B. Le Voting with Your Wallet is retarded. Imagine being able to vote for legislation directly. But instead of Yes/No/Abstain, your voting options are just Yes/Abstain.
And Yes can vote as many times as they like like Abstain gets to just not vote once.
And instead of Yes requiring 50% majority or even 60% super majority, Yes only requires enough profit to be made.
Vwyw is a system that heavily favors shitty business practices because of that.

>>715474908
Hello commie

Is it really that hard for you to not get stabbed my Muslims in "European" cities?
> NOOO YOU SEE I NEED 99809412809381 NEW LAWS BE MADE TO PROTECT ME EVEN THOUGH I DIDN'T EVEN CARE ABOUT THIS ISSUE UNTIL IT BECAME TRENDY CRITICAL MASS DRAMA

How about... crazy idea! but... how about you DON'T go into areas with Muslims that are ALWAYS aggressive and you can't survive?

Do you really need that peaceful life you'll never see again when Muslims stab you?

>>715474303 (OP)
>NOOO BUT WHAT ABOUT MY HECKIN' FOMO... THIS WOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED BACK THEN... GAMES ARE ART AND MEANT TO BE PRESERV-ACK!

>>715488664
>rentals are a service
These are games.....as a service
Dumbass
>>715489831
SKG is targeting F2P titles as well, baka degozaru

>>715474303 (OP)
This is about more than just personal experience,
it's about everything a game closure stands for
>developer doesn't get their legacy retained
>future interested people don't get the option to ever try it after it's gone (unless pirating, if possible)
>They don't just remove an online element, they remove the entire thing, regardless of potential singleplayer campaign or offline functioning parts
>It inevitably emboldens the suits to start shutting down old games just to sell the new similar game/sequel