>reload the save until you pass the check
Woah great gameplay there.

wish they made the fails more interesting instead of
ohh now you pissed off these guys and you have to fight them

>>715477071 (OP)
What am I supposed to do when Shadowheart is captured?

Still can't believe this buggy piece of lgbt shit with no gameplay won goty

Hot take but rolls should never exist in a cRPG. The reason rolls exist in pen'n'paper in the first place is to simulate skills you obviously do not have. It's the easiest way to simulate throwing a fireball and checking it's damage, checking if something hit, checking if you have enough charisma etc.

Video game worlds allow for actual, accurate, perfect simulation so there's literally no fucking point in rolling when you can just MAKE IT HAPPEN in the game engine. With dialogue you can also just unlock certain dialogue options depending on your stats and skill (like how Fallout does it).

Rolling in games is turbo retarded exactly for the reasons they are retarded in BG3 - they allow for savescumming and feel unfair instead of the result being the effect of your build + skill as a player.

>>715478096
It should've won the next GOTY as well

>>715478239
>Video game worlds allow for actual, accurate, perfect simulation
RPGs are about abstraction, not simulation

>>715478096
ikr What happened to "Get Woke, Go Broke"?

>>715477071 (OP)
Just don't reload then! if you reload while playing BG3 you are a loser.

>>715477071 (OP)
then maybe just dont do that?

>>715477071 (OP)
Play honor mode
>>715478096
It has gameplay

>>715477071 (OP)
Don't reload the save retard? Do you think you get to reroll the dice in tabletop every time you don't roll 20? Tourists like you need to be decapitated. Genuinely

>>715477071 (OP)
I honestly think this is the RPG with the best gameplay and level design (outside of Action RPGs)

>>715477071 (OP)
You chose to do that. If it was Fallout 3 percentage based chance or Fallout New Vegas required stats you'd also bitch.
>>715477379
There are different results than just having to fight. There are even some cases where succeeding a check will lead to less than desirable results.

>>715477071 (OP)
Or don't be a faggot and build your character for what you want to do and accept some failures. Imagine playing DnD at a table and one faggot screams and cries when he rolls below the check, so all the other players give each other sidelong glances and say "Okay Anon, roll again..."

>>715478543
Her DM probably does let her reroll every failure

>>715478543
Even more baffling to me is that the game allows you to reroll up to 4 times in case you want to try again, so the game is actually very fair with giving you a fair chance at succeeding something that you really want, if you fail all 4 and still reload you should go to the nearest train station and jump at the rails

>>715477071 (OP)
All rng and diceslop should be relegated to tablecuck games where it belongs. Vidya doesn't need to rely on such tools.

>>715477071 (OP)
Just don't reload. Live with the consequences

>>715477071 (OP)
why are you playing a game with dice rolls if you are incapable of dealing with bad dice rolls

>>715478575
most of the combats are kinda shitty, sometimes you have to spend an entire round running just to get into range

bg3 is d&d with a powergamer DM with an antagonistic attitude towards their own players
it does a good job of showing the weaknesses of the d20 system though

>>715478960
NuGamers don't want to miss content, they always be googling the consequences of all their choices before they pick them. And they always be googling the greatest builds, and the most powerful items and how to get rich and powerful in 3 hours!!

>>715478239
The problem is that player skill can completely eclipse stats in most cases. How are you supposed to roleplay a character with no lockpicking skill when your player skill can open any lock with 100% accuracy? And if one system is made superior by flawless execution, how do you balance others to naturally meet the same standards? It's not fair that a fighter can perfectly engage in combat while never getting hit while the mage is artificially restricted to a limited spell list and casting limitations.

>>715478892
Don't worry lil bro Fortnite still rizzing and capping ong fr it's not crashing out anyway yoooo

>>715479080
The solution to this is to have exclusive content for failing stuff that's also interesting

>>715479176
Any examples that did this?

>>715479042
What? no way the combat is actually amazing.
If your units are far and the opponent units are far, use the first turn to place your units in advantageous positioning with dash and crouch.

>5% failure on all actions because "lol so random"
>No you can't take 10 EVER IT'S ALWAYS A SKILL CHECK
>haha the Barbarian succeeded at Arcana with a DC50 because he rolled a 20 isn't that funny guys

>>715479042
you have to be some kind of retard

>>715479621
>let me win at everything and have an easy ride to compensate me failing in real life or it's a bad game
lol

>>715479621
5e was a mistake. Retvrn to 3.5, white man. Or better yet, retvrn to skilless B/X.

>>715478239
This is exactly why DOS is better.

>>715479347
Disco Elysium has a lot of checks that are funny when you fail, and some are outright better to fail

>>715479347
Sadly I can't think of any. I think it could work though, like if failing a speech check gets you thrown in prison which means you're now stuck having to escape and maybe you can get an exclusive party member or access to the police station or something.

>>715479347
Well for one example, there's a gang of ogre mercenaries you can meet in Act 1. On one hand you can pretend to be on their side and just move on. Or you can convince them to act as your own hired thugs, calling on them to fight for you later on. Or you can choose to simply antagonize and kill them, which gets you a unique magic item one of them happened to eat off an earlier victim. These all earn you the same xp in the end, but adds variations based on your choices.

>>715479768
2.5 and 3 is better
3.5 is still better than 5 tho ig

>>715479834
>Disco Elysium
Yeah they may be funny but they don't actually give you exclusive content at all, in fact Disco Elysium has a lack of branching paths in its narrative, espeically when you realize its a 100% narrative driven game, like the devs don't need to think about anything else other than dialogue content and still it felt linear and restrictive on a 2nd playthrough because you always end up in the same places, and your alternative choice to other endings is to just fail (like Gale ending the game in act 2)
>>715479839
Witcher 2 had that, but it was a slog to replay and most people ended up picking a single choice.

It could work in a small RPG where budget is no big deal, but in AAA RPG like this, designing a game inside a game is basically dooming yourself with extremely long development cycle that is not sure to pay off its worth.

>>715477071 (OP)
>game is so peak ragebaiters have to resort to "oh but you save scum in this game!!!!"
>something that every singleplayer game has
Getting tired of winning

>>715480241
>retard is so retarded that he is a retarded nigger faggot tranny kike that needs to kill himself immediately

>>715479894
Baldur's Gate 3 philosophy towards choice and consequences differs a little bit from Bioware/CDPR style.

It gives you two identical paths but gives you multiple threads to travel between them, instead of the alternative which gives you multiple paths but with a single thread between them, resulting in the same 3 outcomes over and over, compared to the same result but with multiple different variations to achieve it.

Anyway Durge content is pretty solid, i wish they had some 1 or 2 exclusive dungeons, but i mean they probably didn't want to take so many risks, im sure the devs didn't even predict the game will be such massive success, they will probably do that in their next game given their status now.

>>715479834
>Extremely difficult red check
>put off doing it for most of the game to build up skill
>finally attempt it
>succeeding is the quest's fail state
Mother Fuck.

>he still makes threads just talking to himself
turkish schizo behavior

>>715478239
Hotter take

Rolls should always be hidden.

Rendering a die is pure soi bait

>>715478586
>some cases where succeeding a check will lead to less than desirable results
Name no fewer than 5 instances.

>>715477071 (OP)
>reload the save until you pass the check
new vegas solved this, you either succeed in the moment or dont and you accept this as part of the reality of the character you have created (or use a bunch of drugs and wear a retarded minmax of items to get enough to boost you over the line)