Do games last 10-80 hours?

Or is more than an average gamer will need 10-80 hours for what essentially is 1 hour of gameplay for someone that knows where to go?

FFXIV literally has over 300+ hours worth of cutscenes. Cutscenes. not including gameplay like raiding, PVP, progressing, economics, etc. Just cutscenes.

>>715482161
Yeah, but I was talking that even in the gameplay section, there's a lot of filler, like dungeons that really have no major significance except make the game last longer.

Also item retrieval over levels and towns the player already covered.

>>715482312
Everything outside of the main story is filler. The main story itself is over 500+ hours long.

Games should last two hours max. Fuck cutscenes, fuck grinding, fuck copy-paste locations, fuck open world shit and fuck dollars to hours fags who need to justify their $70 dollar purchase by pretending they like doing busywork stretched out over fifty hours.

>>715482024 (OP)
>for someone that knows where to go?
Easy
>Load up game
>Quit
That's like maybe 30 seconds at most of company logos and loading if that.

>>715482508
I don't think so.

Most of the time I've been watching like anime movies at 15x and 2 hours of content usually are like 10-15 minutes of story with padding and filler.

Pretty sure 500 hours is just actually 5 hours of content.

What they always do is put filler padding in the stories to make them longer.

>>715482769
>Games should last two hours max
Fuck off

Games last until you choose to stop playing them.

>>715482024 (OP)
just watch a TAS

>>715482819
I don't think you can comprehend how complex FFXIV story is. It spans more than a decade of development. It has more than regions. You literally go to the EDGE of the universe

https://youtu.be/6IiG4vo9k9U

>>715483036
most of that shit is filler pad content.

>>715482865
No, you fuck off. I don't need padding in my games, and I fucking hate when people call that shit 'content'. If it's not fun in ten minutes, the game is trash. Simple as that.

>>715483142
wheres the padding sir

>>715483269
anything that isn't the intro, call to adventure, meeting the mentor, embark to the adventure, final conflict, resolution.

It is padding.

>>715483341
all of that is always happening

you meet the mentor and you are the mentor

it is so complex you will never understand

>>715483529
Anything that isn't the MC and the villain and the mentor is padding.

>>715483574
you dont even play the game how would you know and what context, you are stupid by trying to insist things that are different from reality. its what we call delusional people. you are on drugs you delusional crackhead.

The average game is still only like 6 hours long on a first playthrough. There's just a lot of bloat you can easily skip.

>>715483658
I am talking from a literary point of view.

Stories are essentially in a fundamental level, a narrator, a main character POV, an antagonist force, a mentor that start the story.

Anything beyond that is just the filled and content and theme of the story.

Unironically, the average game should take a minimum of 150 hours to beat.
I don't care how they get to that number, just needs to get there.
I have plenty of time to kill.

>>715482024 (OP)
The sh2 remake is like 2/3 hours long if you know where everything is

>>715482024 (OP)
It took me nearly 22 hours to beat Infra, and that's a fairly linear walking sim. But I probably could have shaved it down to 15 if I wasn't paranoid and backtracked at splits or spent time looking for random shit.