What is your most contrarian gaming opinion?

>>715486315 (OP)
gachas suck

I think we should greet each other with GOOD MORNING SARRRRRRRR

>>715486315 (OP)
Dark Souls 2 Bad
Dark Souls 2 Good

Persona 3 is kind of boring and I don't like it.

i think elder scrolls sucks but its still better than genshin impact

>>715486315 (OP)
Sonic Heroes and Sonic 06 have been a far greater point of inspiration to AAA M rated games than Resident Evil 4 ever could be.

>>715486315 (OP)
Obsidian never made a good game.

>>715486315 (OP)
Super Mario 64 is only better than Lost Levels

>>715486315 (OP)
the Persona games are not very fun, and I hate how the calendar flow of the game punishes you for finishing levels early with repetitive dialogue.

>>715486315 (OP)
brown and bloom shooters were good and fun.

Minecraft having good combat before 1.9 "ruined" it is nothing short of revisionist history.

>>715486487
Starfield is a masterpiece and I grow weary of LARPing otherwise.

>>715486315 (OP)
Video games are actually good sometimes

I refuse to play any "it's good with mods" type of games. It's not the players job to fix a game.

>>715486315 (OP)
PS5 has no games.
It HAS games but just like 1 or 2 exclusive ones.

>>715486315 (OP)
Gamergate is retarted

sload died and we just let it all happen

>>715486315 (OP)
Some of the best video games ever made are eroge, some of which have stories that surpass any other video game.

>>715486315 (OP)
yoshis island is better than super mario world

>>715486643
not really controversial outside of SEA

>>715486851
except nintendo
exclusives are practically dead

Contrarian to /v/: I don't need super model or anime females in my game to enjoy it.
Contrarian to normies: I don't need super model or anime females in my game to enjoy it, but they better not be fucking ugly or I won't play it.

>>715486315 (OP)
3D World is better than Odyssey.

>>715486315 (OP)
FromSoft is good.

MGS4 had the best multiplayer ever

Aloy is a compelling and interesting character

>>715486315 (OP)
Tooie>Kazooie

Crowd control is the third pillar of good MMO design. Everyone can do damage, that shouldnt be a role. But preventing the tank from getting overwhelmed or the healer from running out of resources? That is a thing that used to exist, and should return.

Games should be fun and anything else should be secondary.
Force all devs to play 10-15 hours of any game they've worked on and ask them if they are having fun.
If they say no they get fired out of a canon.

>>715487018
>but they better not be fucking ugly or I won't play it.
Ah yes every game must be full of supermodels and anime girls

>>715486315 (OP)
i actually have fun playing video games

>>715486315 (OP)
Klonoa 2 is where the series lost it's identity and gave up it's distinct storybook aesthetic to chase after the sonic the hedgehog audience and general 00s edgy boy baiting.

>>715486315 (OP)
French games are the only good western games. Life is Strange IP, Clair Obscure, Assassin's Creed.
Otherwise, gaming development is irrelevant outside Japan.

>>715486851
My sister just arrived home yesterday with a fucking PS5 and sat there for like 3 hours setting it up, she can't even find the power button, she doesn't know shit about videogames, ergo she bought a fucking PS5.

>>715486315 (OP)
RDR2 is good

>>715486315 (OP)
Both Last of Us games are awful.

>>715487321
This but Persona 3 through 5.

>>715486315 (OP)
videogames are fun

>>715486315 (OP)
Circle of the Moon is better than most of the igavanias

>>715486315 (OP)
Steins;Gate is a garbage game with no redeeming qualities.

Graphics pipelines should have stopped at the Wii (SSDs and RAM can stay modern). It was the perfect intersection of developer flexibility and fast, efficient development without falling victim to the HD bloat that killed the entire AA space and numerous handheld studios. If devs targeted this level of hardware today we would be getting masterpieces yearly and a constant influx of high quality middleware.

>>715486315 (OP)
Contrarian in the mainstream or contrarian on /v/?

>>715487321
what did you not like about 1?

>>715487405
FUCK YOU

>>715486315 (OP)
Crysis 2 > Crysis 1 in nearly every single way.
Bioshock 1 has a cool setting and the first few levels are good, but it's rather mediocre aside from this and feels pretty shit to play.

Danganronpa is fucking garbage and it should be a crime to even compare it to games like Ace Attorney.

>>715487497
ellie didn't get molested by the cannibals

>>715486315 (OP)
I find SNES zelda music obnoxious

Civ6 is better in every way than Civ5. Civ5 was the first Civ game I really played and I loved it but 6 is just better.

I liked Dark Souls 3 more than 1 and 2.

>>715487630
fair complaint

>>715487705
Same.

>>715487495
Came here to post exactly this. There's a big difference as the /v/ hivemind will almost always disagree with normies.
Sometimes I have an opinion that is contrarian to what the normalfags think, but accepted as a fact here.

>>715487667
based

>pc-only people are the most pathetic, entitled people in gaming, and shameless port beggars
>pirates are delusional niggerfaggots whose mental gymnastics are only outdone by trannies and crack shippers

>>715487497
For a game sold on being a "survival horror" game there's very little focus on survival. As in, there's zero focus on it.
In order to sell you on the daddy daughter power fantasy the game makes you pick up fractions of crafting materials and goes basedjak face going "omg whooaaa, survival in the fungus future is crazy, bro" and completely forgets what makes real survival mechanics interesting such as food and water, warmth, infection, etc.
ND wanted to make a polished experience and yes, it was, it was polished so much and so hard and so deep they polished away any sort of interesting texture the game could have had.

Also the gas plot hole was never addressed.

>>715486315 (OP)
There are less than 5 good Zelda games.

>>715487958
since when was tlou sold as survival horror
it was sold as an interactive movie just like uncharted

>>715486315 (OP)
Kirby is the only good Nintendo IP

>>715487976
Yes, 0 to be exact.

>>715486315 (OP)
Steamfags are the most insufferable retards in the gaming industry
is always "pC tHiS" "pC tHaT" "StEaM nUmBeRs tHiS" "sTeAm nUmbErs tHaT"

holy shit cucktendo fans look like saints in comparison

>>715487484
idk about technical aspects, I just think this is how videogames should always look, the turbo realistic modern shrinking-horse-testicle aesthetic does nothing for me.

MGS3 is the worst in the series

>>715486315 (OP)
Open world is a good thing
it's just that devs should be better at design

>>715486315 (OP)
1) Starfield is a good game and one of the best of the generation
2) The Wii is one of the best Nintendo home consoles ever. Only N64 and NES beat it.
3) NES is better than SNES
4) Zelda as a series isn't that good. Music is good though. Even still, Skyward Sword is better than both Wind Waker and Twilight Princess even though the sailing in Wind Waker is the best method of traversal in any Zelda game by far.

>>715488265
And MGS2 had the most cutscene interruptions and dogshit gameplay in the series btw

Never thought undertale/deltarune were good games compared to their inspirations. Very gimmick and key dangling heavy

having more choices in story and playstyle is usually a bad thing, because it'll make you suffer from indecision paralysis
>game wants me to choose path A or B or C
>if i choose A there may be a chance i've chosen the worse path, because the developers accidentally made B or C more fun
>while playing through A i will constantly look for any signs that it may be a shit path, and constantly on the brink of resetting back and choosing B or C
>if i do end up choosing B or C, my immersion has already been broken because i'm not interacting with the game in the fashion i should be
in this regard, linear railroaded games are superior

>>715486315 (OP)
Sekiro is a terrible action game. Lock-on in general is a terrible mechanic.

>>715486315 (OP)
E33 was just okay

>>715486315 (OP)
No MMO has surpassed the cultural impact, accessibility and appeal of World of Warcraft. Yes, even the retail game.
This is also why the MMO genre is still a stagnant mess because no one can decide the actual next direction for the genre like WoW did 20 years ago.

>>715486478
faggot

>>715488369
>3) NES is better than SNES
actually fucking unhinged, what is your metric for this

>>715488490
This is the coldest, most normal take I have seen in this thread.

>>715488105
The very first E3 trailer showed off the survival/stealth mechanics for a good long minute before Ellie even showed up. It was called a survival game multiple times. Of course it is a movie game but that doesn't mean it couldn't have had layered and complex gameplay.

RPGs suck, if talking to npcs takes up more than half the play time, it's not a game

>>715486315 (OP)
I don't like video games.

>>715486315 (OP)
Sunshine and Odyssey are both better games than 64.

>>715486315 (OP)
Millennials have had a worst impact on the vidya game industry than any generation before and after them. I'd go as far as saying it's the generation that purposely ruined gaming.

>>715486315 (OP)
RPGs should distance themselves from DnD both in mechanics and themes.
When people play DnD itself, the only reason why they are even having fun is because they are with friends creating their own story, 90% of the time being far from what the actual DnD creators intended and most games devolving into trying to piss off the DM.
Games aren’t complex enough to have the actual fun parts of DnD, but still keep the stuff like dice rolls and math than no one cares about. Those aspects turning comedy into frustration because its single player and there is a real objective in the game usually. And not to mention that billions of RPGs taking place in tolken inspired fantasy settings.
It’s why the Mario RPGs are unironically the most enjoyable RPGs. They mix up the gameplay with action commands that make battling more than just wacking enemies with larger numbers and with dice rolls. And instead of the same variations of the same fantasy species in medivel fantasy Europe, it’s Mario species in the Mario setting.

MMOs are peak vidya gaming.

>>715488493
I have more respect for VN-fags than you retards. I would say you guys deserve your own containment board, but you'd be too stupid and attention starved to use it. Which is why you play gachas to begin with.

>>715486315 (OP)
>Contrarian for normies
Elden Ring sucks
Tears of the Kingdom is worse than Breath of the Wild, and even if you disagree you should still find it egregious that they reused the map
Metal Gear Solid 5 sucks
Super Mario 64 is the worst one, even outside the camera and control issues it doesn’t have a single good level

>Contrarian for /v/
Persona 2 sucks
Skyrim is one of the greatest games of all time, and playing it unmodded is totally valid

New Vegas is unplayable

no i do not care how bone chilling and philosophical you find it when the NPC says bear bull bear bull
the game's graphics and environments are some of the ugliest you'll find in videogames
suffering through the game's animations and combat feels like trying to start the rustiest chainsaw on the planet
the atmosphere and landscapes are incredibly monotone despite the game being marketed as an adventure

>>715488497
NES has the better Mario games
NES has the better Zelda games (LLTP is horribly overrated)
NES has the better Punchout
NES has Ducktales
NES has Duck Hunt
NES has Excitebike
NES has the first Tecmo Bowl
NES has more pick up and play games

SNES has the better Metroid, the DKC games, Chrono Trigger and FFVI, but there are more games I play on NES and want to go back to playing from the NES than I do the Super Nintendo.

>>715486315 (OP)
I guess, statistically speaking, it would have to be that I don't like BotW/TotK and I want to see more of old Zelda instead.

Resident Evil 2 (1998) has way too much filler.

>>715486315 (OP)
I enjoy video games.

>>715488857
While I agree, you can’t yet fully judge Gen Z’s impact as they’re not yet old enough to be in many positions with much influence in the industry.
Already though the fact that they lap up trashy games like FNAF and have such awful attention spans has been terrible for new games coming out where they’re the primary audience, and I think in the long run they’re going to have an even worse effect on the industry, if the industry lasts that long

>>715489172
How is it unplayable but you know all that? Sounds like you played it.

Ed Sheeran's song at the end of Pokemon Scarlet/Violet is pretty okay.

>>715486315 (OP)
DmC is better than 3 or 4.

>>715488887
>Those aspects turning comedy into frustration because its single player and there is a real objective in the game usually
It's kind of a kind of a graphic adventure RPG hybrid but I like how Disco Elysium handles this by forcing you to play out a failed roll and giving you options how to do it, sometimes bringing it up even later in the game. Most RPG's just lock you out of a quest or progression if you fail a dice roll which really encourages save scumming, which even the most dedicated players will get tempted to do at SOME point.

Whether people like or hate the writing, DE lets you see the chaos unfold and you get to learn something else neat about the characters or the world and more games should use that.

>>715486315 (OP)
There’s nothing inherently wrong with gacha that doesn’t also apply to all forms of live service games.
This includes shooters like Halo, COD, or Counterstrike.

>games should not aim to be "funny", comedy is too personal and in-game timing is usually off
>gacha ruined 4chan and will destroy gaming, it's like DLC for ultra stupid people
>Final Fantasy hasn't had a good game since the PS2
>Todd Howard has never made a good video game, his company has made a popular mod engine
>Nintendo adding digital codes for games is the fourth horseman for the physical video games
>99% of the issues with gaming are the consumers fault, if (You)'re not principled no one is
>gooners are the dumbest people alive on this planet
>a good chunk of /v/'s population are hired to be here, either to promote their employer's product or shit on competion 24/7, Indians are cheaper than you think
All these are absolute truths.

>>715489695
Now you're just farming for (You)s

>>715486315 (OP)
Wukong is better than Sekiro and Dark Souls 3

>>715489815
I’m dead serious. DmC plays better, 3 is a clunky mess and 4 always sucked.

>>715489815
That's this whole thread.

>>715486315 (OP)
loss was never funny, not in 2008, not now and not for a second at any point in between

>>715489789
I'm curious what comedy in games has triggered you.

People that both bitch about having no ammo on re2 remake and hoarding everything are both mouth breathers that deserve to get shot
How difficult it is to understand you use the shotgun to 1 tap zombie heads? It's useless everywhere else cause all bosses have resistance against shotgun specifically

>>715489815
this is a
>unpopular gaming opinions
thread. No tshit it is full of shitty bait. There is a reason why 8ch made them a permaban back then since it is filled with subhumans who like to chain memetext to maximize (you)s

>>715490219
>why do you not know this meta thing about a game any sensible person plays once and never again
bro forget all these other tards, you officially have the most niggertardbrain in this thread

I think GTA 6 will suck.

>>715490181
probably millennial writing

>>715486315 (OP)
the reason why gaming sucks is because you already know everything about the game because of leaks, trailers and game reviwes.
reason why old games where better was because when you picked up a game from the shops you only got a small bit of info about it on the back of the CD case/box and played it fully blind.

gaming itself is to enjoy the unknown but people have to know everything about it before it even out for some reason...

>>715488437
I would rather have a single path story that is fleshed out and has something to say than two or three branched paths that are half baked and just have the "Morals are relative lol" with a pallette swap ending.
Doesn't change the fact TLoU2 is a dogshit story.

If murder in videogames is fine then rape should be fine too.

>>715486315 (OP)
Kingdom Hearts is a great series and KH3 is a fun game

>>715486315 (OP)
RPGs with branching choices but without character creation are dogshit. If you're making a predefined protagonist - it should be for a reason. That protagonist should have thoughts, feelings, views, convictions of his/her own. If you give the player a predefined protagonist but make that protagonist a blank slate - you get the worst of both worlds, a character without characteristics and a choice system without real freedom.

>>715486315 (OP)
stealth mechanics are dogshit and every game that has them is worse off for it

SNES is easily the most overrated console. People focus on okay games like Link to the Past and Super Metriod when there's better games on it like Wild Guns or Ninja Warriors.

>>715486315 (OP)
4chan developers are cringe as fuck

The Xbox 360 is where gaming peaked.

>>715486315 (OP)
I prefer an inventive art style over photorealism.

>>715486315 (OP)
cosmetic only lootboxes are ok, as long as the game is F2P

>>715486315 (OP)
Skyrim > Other TES games.
>BUT THE WRITING AND THE QUEST DESIGN-
Are still bad in both Oblivion and Morrowind. They're better than Skyrim, but they're still bad. All three are below the threshold where they can be considered well written games. At that point it just doesn't matter. What matters is the murderhobo adventure of running around pretty looking places and swinging your sword, and Skyrim mogs the other games completely.

>>715490551
>SNES is easily the most overrated console
Hard disagree and I'm >>715489204. The most overrated console by a long shot is the PS2. Going further, Gen 6 is currently the most overrated generation sans the Dreamcast that only lived for a year and some change before it died.

>>715488437
It's completely a (you) problem. What you should have been doing is coming up with a character and choosing things according to what that character will do.
I did that in New Vegas and made some of my Couriers into international terrorists over minor misunderstandings escalating into absurdity because even though I KNEW the game would fuck me over with hit squads if I chose to have a fight with the ranger outside Nelson because he threatened to kill my Courier, that's what that uppity Courier would do - fight the ranger over being threatened.

>>715490692
You're not wrong. Skyrim has the best natural adventuring. Just pick a direction or any area, and you can find something to do as well as quests to go on. Morrowind has a problem of all quests are in town except for a handful.
I dick ride morrowind all day, but I'll admit it's flaws.

To this board?

>DeS and Dark Souls 1 are complete nostalgia filled dogshit but the later titles are some of the best games ever.
>WoW vanilla-wotlk became the dominant MMO because the others sucked ass and were objectively not fun. The only people who still want to revise history were people who sunk 1000+ hours into an mmo that died due to WoW's popularity and they're still ass-mad about it.
>Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines is not only a bad video game with horrid gameplay, the writing is some of the cringiest shit I've ever heard.
>Botw was a really fun game but also has a lot of problems that hold it back and it was also not a zelda title because no dungeons. You can type paragraph upon paragraph but nothing will change this fact. Also totk's gmod gimmick was not entertaining and did not save the game from reusing the map.
>Pikmin 2 is the best pikmin. All of them are good games but 1 is overrated, there is no need for the day-length mechanic because the game is very easy and it adds nothing to the experience.
>Switch 2 emulation will be viable before EOY
>I love valve and steam but they take real talent away from the industry by letting those who could make great video games sit and afk and have a good salary meanwhile not doing much because steam is a money printer. While steam did indeed save pc gaming from 1000 dogshit ubistop-clone storefronts, it also has this negative aspect to its existence.

>>715489583
He just says the heaviest buzzwords his brain has the capacity to remember.

>>715486315 (OP)
Modern Souls is slop that only got popular after being seeded enough into popular discourse a decade and a half ago as being "a true hardcore gamer's game" which ironically gave it a free pass to be Assassin's Creed tier rehash garbage that is reddit's golden boy you can't criticize

>>715489789
>>99% of the issues with gaming are the consumers fault, if (You)'re not principled no one is
It's certainly contrarian alright. Also gay and retarded.

>>715490924
sorry for pikmin i meant day-limit, not day length, having each day be a limited length does add to the experience but not restricting how many you can have before you get an arcade-style "game over u lost"

Fallout 3 was better than New Vegas. I don't give a fuck about the writing, I only care about atmosphere and exploration. New Vegas had better guns and the crafting/cooking system was cool, and that's it, everything else about FO3 was better to me overall. The Mojave is fucking boring.

>>715490924
I think Dark Souls 1 is very solid and I like how unabashedly cringe VoMB is but otherwise neat points. One of the few non-hylics on 4chan

>>715490921
There's also the matter of environments. Oblivion's overworld is gaudy and the color mixing is eye-searing, while its dungeons are literally copy+pasted on a level almost comparable to Dragon Age 2. As in literally the same exact room polygon for polygon being reused several times.
Morrowind's landscapes just don't look exciting. The palette is too mushy, everything blends together into the worst color in the universe - brown.

>>715490328
>Sensible person
You mean mouth breathers? Yeah going by achievements half of them don't even finished the RPD section with the Tyrant chasing them so yeah subhumans
Also people that play once didn't even finish the game cause you need to play twice, once with each character

visible damage numbers need removed from the large majority of games

>>715491150
re-reading my post i maybe shouldnt have said dogshit for ds1/des, its a fine video game but it has aged terribly and been improved upon in almost every aspect by the later titles

>>715491217
And life bars.

My real take is that fallout outside of new vegas is kind of dogshit and I don't really care for any of the xcom games but cyberknights, the shadowrun games and troubleshooter are all fine games themselves.

open world is dogshit, highly polished linear experiences are always better
not sure if this is even unpopular anymore

>>715490874
New Vegas isn't a branching story. It's a sandbox which you decide what to do with each faction. Half of the factions don't give a damn what you do with the others, and in the end you decide the ending.
Branching stories in NV would be you getting locked out of the Khans for siding with the NCR or factions getting locked out over what you do with Benny.

>>715486315 (OP)
Destiny is the greatest fps game ever made

>>715488993
>Contrarian for /v/
GTA6 will be one of the greatest games and most expansive games of this generation. Anyone who thinks it's going to "fail" has mental issues stemming from contrarianism. All /v/ will be able to do is cope, seethe, and gnash their teeth with their argumentative attack lines being centered over outsourced twitter takes about whether or not this character in an out of context scene is "woke" or "based" attached to a "Is he right /v/?" thread template while repeating the cycle and saying how this random mechanic in GTAV was way better,

>>715487176
Agreed, even in animation with things like Wafku

>>715488174
Not exactly wrong, but I would include Pikmin too

>>715491258
I personally disagree with this because earlier Souls were exploration focused, not combat focused. Going forward they saw people just memed about the combat so that became the focus but the exploration suffered, and I dislike how every boss now has anime tier movesets & crazy inflated health bars
The exploration in Demon & Dark souls is infinitely more interesting than a huge open world a la Elden Ring

>>715491334
we've gone complete full circle, people shitted on "murder hallways" for decades, now 4chan is the first to begin tiring of the open world, give it another 10 years and we'll be back on the other side
personally i like open world because i love exploring but understand thats not what everyone wants in every title

>>715486315 (OP)
most games are good

>>715491567
i completely and 100% disagree with everything you said but am not gonna argue autisticly, god knows theres enough of that on this board, you're allowed to like what you like just like how i find ds1's combat to be so boring and slow i dropped the game

>>715490924
You're a dumb nigger.

Elden Ring was a disappointment because it took the steps to become an open world game but it had none of the appeal of open world games and all of its weaknesses. All because they're too much of a limpdick coward to actually change the Souls formula and make something new with it.
It had no towns, no loot you could sell for any real price, like 3 quests that were all pretty awfully done. Never forget they had, what, five years of dev time for a game with 10 quest lines? And instead of making a journal system to provide a record for the player of what they've done, they had to PATCH, WAYMARKERS, INTO the game. What absolute fucking bitchmade cowards. If you wanted to make more Dark Souls, shut the fuck up and make Dark Souls, don't fuck with me and this new IP that's just the same shit with a different coat of paint. At least Bloodborne had a fucking spine to add guns and the rally system. ER has fucking nothing of value.

Oh, and fuck everyone who fawns over boss fights, like they spend more than 10% of their time ingame doing them. Pic related, you back in 2016 going goo goo gaa gaa over Slave Knight Gael and forgetting the abysmal dogshit that was the entire area beforehand.

>The Horizon games are fun
>DMC3 is the only good game in the series
>Fear 2>1
>Portal 2 sucked
>Counter Strike and Dota are anti-fun and helped ruin Valve
>tf2 is one of the best games ever made but the community and playerbase is among the worst in all of gaming
>smash Brawl is good
>super paper mario is great
>the only re games worth playing are re4, re2 remake, and re4 remake. 7 is also decent.
>nu doom sucks and has only gotten more bloated and obnoxious with each sequel
>Mario 64's camera and controls make it execrable
>Fighting games are awful with the exception of getting drunk and playing Smash Brothers with your friends.
>Rockstar has made 1 good game (Midnight Club Street Racing) and a whole bunch of overhyped garbage. They are easily the most overrated developer in history.
>Kojima has some great ideas but his games are terrible and he's a bad writer.
>MGR and the songs/memes are cringeworthy shit.
>Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask are so much better than every other Zelda game, they may as well be a whole different franchise.
>the botw formula has already gotten old
>Simpsons Hit and Run and yoshi's island suck and are only remembered well because of nostalgia
>dead rising has 0 good entries. Same for bayonetta.

>>715491707
exact smoothbrain response i expect from this shithole, thanks for the (you)

>>715486315 (OP)
I like the Atari 2600, not because I enjoy its games, but because I admire its simplicity.

>>715490924
Valve is an interesting company because they do genuine good like all the things you've said, is helping to advance/popularize Linux gaming, create a solid gaming handheld device that's also essentially a laptop computer at a great price and other things no corporation in their right minds would ever have the interest or skill to do. But then they also do evil shit like trailblazing cosmetic microtransaction hell, move gaming to matchmaking-based live service bullshit (CS:GO/CS2 technically allow you to run your own servers but there's no point to it), and getting adults/children addicted to virtual gambling with skinnerbox crates, a digital storefront you can use to sell cosmetics from said crates (of which a cut of the money goes back to them), pushing the gambling mentality on to their audience harder with the esports scene, and keeping a blind eye on 3rd party casinos that let player bet even more on cosmetics or sell them for cash which further encourage players to use Valve's gambling services.

It's an awful ecosystem that makes Valve beyond wealthy and nobody says anything because they funnel a portion of this ill-earned money back into moving gaming mountains.

Also Gunsmith Cats rocks, good taste.

>>715486315 (OP)
I might like nuts and bolts more than tooie

>>715486315 (OP)
I think escort missions are fun.

>>715491686
Yeah for me the combat is just a hurdle in the way of my exploration, it’s not like an action game like devil may cry where I am traversing the level for the purpose of getting to the next combat encounter.
Out of interest when did you first play demon or dark souls, and were they your first one in the franchise? I picked up Demon’s Souls a few months after release back in 09, but maybe if my first game was Dark Souls 3 or something it would have been a lot harder to go back to the older ones

>>715490924
someone who likes gunsmith cats should not have opinions this shit

>>715486785
>and I grow weary of LARPing otherwise.
Why do you? I for one do not pretend to dislike something I like. But also I'm not a faggot.

>>715492072
i first played des on my friend's ps3 like a year after release and liked it and kept my interest but then ignored the series (and really all video games) until bloodborne because of school, my opinion is likely highly colored by my first real souls playthrough being bloodborne

>>715491826
Damn you were almost spot on but then you had to ruin it with your terrible MGR opinion

>>715490924
>there is no need for the day-length mechanic because the game is very easy and it adds nothing to the experience
You underestimate just how much a timer can break people mentally.

>>715492170
Bloodborne is my favorite, for me it goes
Bloodborne>Dark souls>Demon souls>Dark souls 2>Dark souls 3>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Elden Ring

>>715492180
I said Kojima sucked immediately before that one.

the only games that require and develop actual useful skills are simulators, thus they are the only truly good games. racing simulators and combat flight sims have the highest skill ceiling a video game could ever possibly achieve. everything else is just a toy.

>>715492083
it gets better because i love big o too and Dorothy is the reason i watched it :)

>>715492182
i get that but even as a kid the day length never even factored into my decision making so to me the mechanic is just kinda useless, its not the same for everyone though i saw some people not even play the game when they realized there was a limit

>>715492395
Yeah and I agree, luckily he had barely any involvement with MGR

>>715492182
It's there for a narrative reason, which gives it the most agency in the series

>>715492490
that would be true if it wasnt designed for children and therefore so easy and forgiving there is no point to it

Symphony of the night is very bad as a game and almost any metroidvania that came after or metroid itself is way better, got hard carried by the OST and art design.

>>715486315 (OP)
What a faggot ass thread, let me show you real contrarianism.

Fallout 3 is the most enjoyable game in the series, though it had the weakest story.
Before the esports patches killed it Overwatch was better than TF2.
The change from survival horror to action in RE4 is the only reason the series still exists.
Final Fantasy 16 is the best game since 10.
Turn based games were never fun, and all of them were hard carried by the story, art, and music of their respective games.

And the most contrarian statement of all
I 100% mean everything in this post with no exaggeration or sarcasm.

anime fags on /v/ should move to /lgbt/

>>715492478
Okay. Well, feel free to enjoy medicore beat em ups with 90s radio rock songs and dated, unfunny memes as much as you like.

>>715491897
pretty much 100% agree with everything you said, id kill for more gunsmith cats anime made by the same people

>>715492602
>Final Fantasy 16 is the best game since 10.
100% agree, finally a sane person
> hard carried by the story, art, and music of their respective games.
desu one thing that makes me want play a JRPG is hearing a good battle/boss theme on yt, i would literally go "random ass jrpg battle theme" and pick it up if its good.

>>715486315 (OP)
Games where people say "you need to play for X hours before it gets good" tend to be the best games.

>>715492602
>Fallout 3 is the most enjoyable game in the series, though it had the weakest story.
if you ignore the story its really similar to new vegas to me, the gameplay seems 1-1 but i havent played either in a decade
>Before the esports patches killed it Overwatch was better than TF2.
absolutely true, the game was a lot of fun before blizzard began to "fix" it, rip season 1 reaper & genji
>The change from survival horror to action in RE4 is the only reason the series still exists.
it wasted 3 whole games on bullshit and 7 was a return to form but from a marketing/sales standpoint i kinda agree it kept it alive, i dont really like 4 but its clear its success was influential for not letting the IP die
>Final Fantasy 16 is the best game since 10.
ff has and always will suck
>Turn based games were never fun, and all of them were hard carried by the story, art, and music of their respective games.
unbelievably based and true

>platforming in non platformers is cool
>timers are based
>early access/live service pve games is SOMETIMES a good thing for feedback and budget
>serious sam is peak fps

>>715486315 (OP)
The concept of alternate realities in video game franchises is just annoying. Not only are human choices completely irrelevant, it causes all consequences to be meaningless. Think about it, for every choice or outcome, there's reality somewhere where the opposite result happened. The audiences are just witnessing one of the countless universes they just happened to be involved in.

Additionally, Alternate Universes are seen as simply replicas of the same setting. It's viewed as an extra, an accessory, so the characters in that reality aren't unique and thus not worthy of consideration, even if their lives should matter as the “core” franchise universe. No one cares if Alternate Superman turns evil in Injustice, but they do if the “original” one from the mainline universe does.

Furthermore, Alternate Universes entail there will always be a conflict or greater enemy the cast will never truly conquer. There will always an enemy on par with Superman in terms of strength, because countless Supermen exist in other realities, and many of them could be evil and could invade the mainline universe. There’s no end to the threat. It will always exist., no matter what happens.

The Multiverse is an endless source of possibilities, but confirming its existence only diminishes its value. Why even care if one characters dies or turns evil? There’s a reality where it didn’t happen. There are countless characters in countless realities that could easily replace one another. In fact, it extends to its entire reality: if the core franchise universe perishes, there are countless realities where that universe survived to latch to and could replace it, as it happened in MK11.

>>715492867
its impossible to truly enjoy a fighting game without at least 80 hours.

>>715492182
I hate that timers are seen as "archaic" or "outdated" and people bitch endlessly any time a game has one.
Games built around them with schedules and/or pressure are really cool, wish we had more of them

>>715492979
>anon discovers that jewish capeshit is actually just a vehicle for propaganda and multiverse nonsense is just an excuse to allow writers of any era to do anything they want with any character so long as it suits their goals

>>715492717
>id kill for more gunsmith cats anime
Me too, though I feel bad for people who assume the manga is more of the same and haven't read it. They have no idea the insanity they're missing out on.

Bust was dogshit though. Cannot believe they killed off a main character in the first couple chapters.

>>715493182
i actually never read the manga but its probably worth it from your description

>>715486749
I used to seriously do Minecraft PvP before 1.9 and the winner was decided by whoever got hit first, that's it.

>>715486315 (OP)

Gay rights, feminism, pro-animal rights, pro-choice, gun control, interracial relationships and veganism have always been the forefront of video games and are and will always be a part of the core message, themes and beliefs of the gaming community as a whole. Not only does reality have a liberal bias, the media and video games included, were ALWAYS progressive.

It's these alt-right anti-SJW so-called 'gamers' who are trying to usurp, gatekeep and defame this industry. They're the parasite tourist invaders that caused the decline of the video game industry.

>>715493234
Easily one of my favorites. I hear "streaming" services don't have it or only have it all fucked up but quality torrents exist in the usual places.

Have fun.

>>715487139
Yes?
Every single male and female character in most games are, or where conventionally attractive for the longest time, the ugly ones where either the villain's or played off as a joke.

>>715486478
Watch out! We have a real rebel here!

>>715490924
>>Switch 2 emulation will be viable before EOY
They can't use any of the documentation or code they had for Switch emulation since it uses almost entirely different hardware and architecture, it's going to be a few years at best and maybe near the end of the console's life at worst.

>>715488497
NES was the only great nintendo console

>>715491378
>New Vegas isn't a branching story.
>Branching stories in NV would be you getting locked out of the Khans for siding with the NCR or factions getting locked out over what you do with Benny.
Correct that is what happens in game therefore its a branching story. Retard.

>>715493234
>>715493451
Actually, you should rewatch the OVA after finishing the manga. The OVA is basically a scavenger hunt of manga references and the OP is almost entirely recreated scenes from the manga.

>>715490839
>Gen 6 is currently the most overrated generation
its deserved, gen 6 actually perfect 3D and there was almost no new genre after it, just scaling up shit that already existed on gen 6.
pick the SNES for example, it didnt perfect 2D and next gen they rushed 3D without actually perfect 2D and putting less effort on high quality 2D/sprite based games.

>>715493403
Guaranteed at least 5 reppys

1). sonic games need to shift from hallway setpieces into open world parkour games like infamous or assassin's creed.

2). the only reason dark souls games and monster hunter games are good is that they take MMORPG mechanics and repackage them to suit offline console gamer taste.

3). female protagonists are a stylistic choice, and generally are associated with good games.

4). microtransactions are fine in games. Companies are usually generous towards microtransaction customers and when you buy them you usually end up with a game that's way better than if you didn't buy them.

5). yellow paint is better than the weird "I glow like I'm coated in linoleum" effect from the ps2/360 era.

6). anime games basically never good unless they are very gimmick driven like katamari damacy or jet set radio.


7). Hardest difficulty mode is always better than normal difficulty even in games where it feels like shit like skyrim.


8). racing game enemy AI and RTS enemy AI are perfectly acceptable for what they offer. It's okay for AI to cheat when cheating offers an opportunity to learn newer and better strategies to overcome it.

9). bad camera = bad game

10). walking simulators are fine

If you kill your enemies you win.

>>715494356
>2).
i agree with MH i do like the grind but dark souls? you mean the PvP? its the really little resembling thing and the PvP as a concept because MMO hardly has any action or input its more about strategy and gearing.

Maplestory is not only worth playing, it's the best version its ever been currently. Pre-BB had tons of issues hidden by nostalgia and while there were some bad patches post-BB, it has since made up for the mistakes in strides and is now an amazing game to play even if you don't spend a single cent.
In fact it's encouraged to play on Reboot (the genuine F2P server that allows you to buy some NX items with meso instead) so you don't have to deal with the whaling bullshit.
Anybody who says they loved Maplestory but hate "modern Maple" don't actually like Maplestory as a game, but as a chatroom.

Live service games have fantastic merit when they actually have content pipelines and Fortnite and Genshin Impact are incredible examples of this this. The aggressive monetization isn't an issue to me, but the ultra casualization and fear to offend so that they capture the widest possible audience IS an issue that brings down both gameplay and designs.

zelda oot fucking sucks

>>715486315 (OP)
RE1 Remake is the best RE game and RE4 actually sucks fucking dick.
1. no zombies
2. shitty story that drags constantly
3. gay haircut
4. traded surival horror for action
5. the first village encounter when they all swarm on you is the peak of the game and it falls off from there
RE4 is truly where the series fell off. Should have never gotten rid of zombies.

Far Cry 2 was and will always be kino

>>715494546
this is true to almost all actual maple players and not those fags that got to level 50 some 15 years ago and developed some nostalgia over clan/group chatting.
ragnarok online, for example, playing official servers is pure masochism and people just power through it.

1. Kojima is a nonsensical hack and mgs suggs digg. If you want good stealth play the Thief or Splinter Cell trilogies.
2. Jrpgs are poop, and the only reason they are so obsessively highly regarded is because a bunch of soilennials (who are now reviewers and thus massively influenced popular game discourse) played them as a kid on their tendie boxes. Even Skyrim is more of an RPG than J"RPGs".
3. The Witcher 3 is boring.
4. Far Cry 5 is very good, and it's open world environments are some the best representations of the the american countryside and backwoods ever put into a game.

>>715495207
>Said 'the' twice award
It's over for me bludington

>>715486315 (OP)
I like video games and despite the state of the industry I think people complain too much about some of them

>>715494790
between the minimal hud, healing animations, physical map and gps, heart of darkness story, fire tech, rusty/jamming guns, the open ended approach that many open world games ended up adopting, and minimal story to focus mostly on gameplay and the sandbox that many love about MGSV but FC2 was the first to do it. Plus the extremely underrated multiplayer and map maker. Playing crazy escape maps/races with friends was always fun.

>>715494587
I think the constant updates that come with a live-service game kind of sucks because every jackoff developer ships a half-baked idea of a game with minimal content, releases it with no server hosting or mod tools, and leaves players on developer life support for content. It's used more of a way to trick players to keep playing their game since before they get bored or realize it's not designed to be a lasting/satisfying game you can come back to years from now, the developers add a new character and turn the balance on its head to keep players distracted.

The reverse situation also happens where a good game with good design gets watered down or changed to the point where it's unrecognizable and you have no way of going back to an older version. More doesn't always equal better.

>>715486315 (OP)
action combat is the most boring genre

Special thanks messages in credits are cringe and I hate when Western devs do it. One of the worst part about the Demon’s Souls remake was how the credits had two letters to dead guys. Also Ratchet and Clank 2 saying “We’d like to extend thanks to our patient spouses, girlfriends, boyfriends, children, and pets” like bitch I know the game was crunched in ten months but you’re cringe. Fuck you.

There is an actual problem with grifters in the community and the reason why nobody wants to deal with them is simple
niggas here have a massive insecurity problem and don't want "Being a mark" to be another notch against them. A lot of people here have no other skills than being schizo and if they aren't even schizo about anything? Well they are just failed normalfags then This is why chuddism will stay for quite a while.

>>715495747
This is the funniest thing I’ve seen a complaint about all year but it’s also the most contrarian thing in this thread so I’ll give you props for it.

>>715486315 (OP)
Turn-based combat is in no way inherently flawed and most turn-based franchises are perfectly good as is. Detractors have some level of ADHD. Yes, a spreadsheet can be engaging if it presents an engaging problem to solve.
People have a super specific and artificial idea of what "freedom" is supposed to look like in games. Most of the time it doesn't add anything to gameplay either. I don't want 50 objectives per square mile, each painstakingly rationing out one stale moment of gameplay. Gameplay that itself has been processed into nonexistence so that it can be seamlessly repackaged 2000 more times.
Gacha isn't that bad. Most people fall back on insane hyperbole that only half-applies to the worst of them when asked to explain their flaws. Chief among them being the classic complaints about how little the gameplay matters.

>>715489789
Trvth

>>715489789
Not a single falsehood in that reply

>>715487885
There are really people who buy into the platform wars meme?

I genuinely thought Sonic Superstars was better than Mario Wonder and feel crazy when people say I'm wrong

>>715495639
I agree with you there are many cases of your first example, but I think Fortnite stood on its own early on, and I think the 20+ hours of content from Genshin 1.0 was very substantial. For Genshin there are definitely a pattern of lulls and huge content spikes, but the mechanics and vision were there. For Fortnite it absolutely became unrecognizable but people still love it.

I think a lot of the vitriol about the state of gaming comes from people who long should have grown out of keeping up with the latest and greatest. I still play new games but I know most of them aren't for me, and so I stick largely to older games myself.

Honestly I think social media has a lot to do with millennial arrested development and this is just one facet of that.

>>715496695
Wonder was disappointing, but Superstars is still worse. I'd gladly take bopping Bowser Jr on the head three times over spending 5+ minutes on a single Sonic boss.

>>715486315 (OP)
I can't fucking stand Monster Hunter and I hate the asshole who convinced me to try Worlds by comparing it to Souls. Even worse are the people who defend it online because "it's just like real hunting" no, you do not chase deer in the woods and stop halfway to sharpen your rifle

>>715497060
Monster Hunter fans cannot conceive someone would not like their precious grinding game. I think I could personally be a little more tolerant on the gameplay if I didn't hate its fucking artstyle too.

>>715486315 (OP)
I think timelines for Nintendo games, actually, unironically matters and it makes me sad when nobody else cares because they're "just Nintendo games". That includes Mario, Donkey Kong, Zelda, Kirby, etc.

>>715497284
Putting Zelda on the same level as the rest of those is a bit silly. They're not "just Nintendo games", there's value to be gotten from finding connections that form a complete picture, but Zelda is the one that had a timeline the whole time.

>>715487059
Peak contrarian

>>715492156
nta but i like when anons respond as if im one of them. >:)

>>715497060
>World

>>715486315 (OP)
Not every franchises need to continue forever. Good example being Wolfenstein, I like the franchise but I genuinely have no idea where you can go after NuWolfenstein

>>715488457
Sekiro is easily the worst game modern Fromsoft has made.

Playable child characters should be in all games. They shouldn't be treated any differently than an adult character and should even have unique death animations. Imagine all the different soul games and enemies grab attacks executed on a child, would be absolute peak artistic expression.

Imagine call of duty but with midget soldiers, releasing the hounds on them would be like an act of god.

Monster Hunter Wilds is a step up from World's formula, the game has defacto better graphics, gameplay and difficulty curves, people that bitch about graphics are poor or tech-iliterates AND complains about challenge are just World veterans having their first "second MH" experience, I had the same experience back in 2010 with Tri after playing hundreds of hours of FU.

Super Mario Bros 2 is the best Mario game

>>715486785
thats just bait and not a real opinion

>>715501279
Anon that's not contrarian, that's patrician.

>>715497060
i didnt like world but i did love rise

>>715491334
I can respect that opinion but I started getting smart to game design and video game tropes when video games began to casualize hard during the 7th gen
I would never want to go back to that time, the response to that is why we are where we are. I'm not insinuating linear experiences are inherently casual either, it's just a pity how many great games were ruined by devs who thought gamers were retarded and needed to be beaten over the head with tutorials, check points, dumbed down mechanics, etc

>>715486315 (OP)
Chrono Trigger is mediocre dogshit and the most overrated videogame of all time.
And probably the first movie game (putting story and spectacle over a mediocre gameplay)
But everyone just jacks the game off because spic god toriyama worked on it

>>715486315 (OP)
i think gacha is ok

>>715489789
>gacha ruined 4chan and will destroy gaming, it's like DLC for ultra stupid people
Very true. So many games I would've considered playing, only to lose all interest simply because it's a gacha.

>>715486315 (OP)
Super linear first person shooters are really good.

>>715501763
Getting smart to game design has only made me appreciate more what we lost. It feels like when games think about player freedom these days, they're terrified to let the player make a choice that's bad in the first place, so they work their asses off trying to make every choice "fair" and make every major option at least not a guaranteed failure.

>>715486315 (OP)
"Female protagonist" is the best tag on Steam.

Linear RPGs are much more fun then open world RPGs
Linear FPS are much more fun then open world FPS
Undergrounds office complexes are the best FPS map types

>>715502473
>Undergrounds office complexes are the best FPS map types

>>715486315 (OP)
Contrary to /v/vp/ at least:
KANTOO is the best pokemon region to play
BW2 is boring. I've dropped it three times. It strips the only interesting things from BW (dex, story) and doesn't offer anything else in particular.
Up to SV pokemon in general has had so many "QoL" improvements such as changing your party and moves on the fly, the current exp share, infinite TMs, removal of HMs, most pokemon having good coverage moves, absurd abundance of healing and exp items, etc that playing the game feels empty and meaningless.
Yes I would rather have HMs than not even if they ideally needed a little tweaking. It makes you consider the traversal of your journey and gives you party something to contribute to in the overworld instead of being battle bots. I did not even use an HM slave the last time I played Platinum and was better off for it.

>>715486315 (OP)
JRPG’s peaked on the PS1

>>715486315 (OP)
He didn't say that

Pf2e would've made for a better system than 5e regarding Baldur's Gate 3

>>715503274
If you like pokemon at all you re at a retard

vmtb and nv both suck. the writing does not excuse the combat. /v/ is always complaining about movie games, but two of their very favorites have nothing to recommend them gameplay-wise.

>>715486315 (OP)
The entire kirby franchise is genuinely horrible and chock full of 4/10 games
Specially the RtD rehashes
The only salvagable entries are DL3 and Dream Course

>>715489172
you forgot how overhyped the soundtrack is. it's the same songs on every single radio station and you'll have heard all of them but the time you get to that first town where the legion is crucifying people.

>>715492979
That's how I feel about multiverse shit. There a big difference between someone looking up in the starry sky and wistfully saying "There have to be infinite possibilities out there somehow!" versus explicitly confirming it and it turns out Space Jam is canon to your universe as an implied consequence. What I'm trying to say is that Owlman is right

>>715486315 (OP)
Sf3 New generation is pretty good, and the second best sf launch after sfa1 probably. Dod1 has genuinely good gameplay and mogs most hack n slash games of its era. Sonic 06 aint bad (but it is rough). Zelda ww is just as good as tp or oot or mm. Mario sunshine is just as good as 64 or galaxy 1. Most dbz games just arent worth it other than the log or bt series

>>715486315 (OP)
Fallout NV sucks ass. One of the buggiest and ugliest games i've ever played that people pretend is amazing and put on a pedestal

>>715487159
Kemoshota fag take, kys

I do prefer klonoas ps1 design thougbeit...

>>715488369
>Skyward Sword is better than both Wind Waker and Twilight Princess even though the sailing in Wind Waker is the best method of traversal in any Zelda game by far.
Jesus christ youre retarded, did youre mom have zika virus when you were conceived

>>715504559
>Sf3 New generation
It's just unfinished Second Impact you twat

>>715504706
And an unfinished second impact is still better than world warrior, vanilla sf4, vanilla sf5, and vanilla sf6

Retro games suck and it’s not my fault for being accustomed to games that improved upon those years of trial and error.

>>715488369
>1) Starfield is a good game and one of the best of the generation
You are right, king.

>>715504698
>>715488369
Heres the real contrarian opinion:
No zelda game after Alttp is "true zelda" formula
As much as oot and wind waker babies like to cry that botw is not zelda
Oot from the get go is not fucking zelda
Zelda is about exploration, not a linear movie like game like OoT is.
LA technically also counts but LA is just worse alttp so fuck that.
Majoras Mask might be the last true zelda game, due to its change of focus from OoT but unironically Botw and Totk despite being dogshit are closer to true zelda than shit like Skyward is.

>>715504913
Tl;dr
Play Tunic instead

>>715488993
>mario 64 sucks and skyrim is one of the greatest games of all time
Never have I heard an opinion that actually made me want to strangle someone. Super Mario 64 pretty much invented 3d gaming while Skyrim pretty much killed open world gaming

>>715488369
>the wii is a good console
Mention 10 genuinely great games exclusive to the wii
>inb4 galaxy
The worst 3d mario?

Undertale is a mediocre game on its own, but the influence it's had on indie games and the wildly undeserved amount of praise it receives have made me hate it more than anything else I've played.

>>715505069
Undertale is just Homestuck-like fanfiction and furro pandering.
Thats why it got big
Deltarune is straight up like Homestuck 2
So its dogshit and you will do yourself a favor by staying away from it

>>715491478
>*game that's not out yet and has had no gameplay revealed* is going to be the greatest game ever and if you disagree you have MENTAL ISSUES
... are you fucking retarded? Not even saying it's gonna be bad but almost nothing has been revealed yet. It could easily be a steaming pile of shit

>>715488369
>2) The Wii is one of the best Nintendo home consoles ever. Only N64 and NES beat it.
The gcn and snes are better than all 3 you mentioned lmao

>>715505124
You don't need to convince me, anon. I've never had any interest in Deltarune whatsoever.

>>715486315 (OP)
The vast majority of Nintendo games are mediocre.

>>715489695
Whats weird about this take is its retarded but not that uncommon

>>715505278
Post 2010 yes, but pre 2010 Nintendo was a different beast

>>715486315 (OP)
None of the TES or FO games(yes, including 1 and 2) are very good because all their depth lies in fucking around across the game world and making ABCetc alignment choices, while the actual main story that you're supposed to be giving a shit about in an RPG weighs in at two hours if you have the audacity to stay on task.

>>715505278
I prefer sony to nintendo but i cant agree with this. Unless we mean modern nintendo specifically. In the wii era and before most of their games were pretty good honestly.

>>715505352
No.

>>715497284
It is retarded to care about timelines except MAYBE in Zelda or Metroid. Do you care about the "timeline" of SpongeBob episodes? No because there is no timeline. It's just isolated cartoon wackiness. There is not meant to be a continuity. The only continuity is memorable characters. The games are not story driven.

>>715486315 (OP)
La Mulana is perfectly doable without looking at any hints or walkthroughs.
I don't blame anyone for giving up though.

>>715505456
Wii and 3ds were probably the worst era for nintendo games
>hey pikmin
>sm4sh
>fe awakening
>mh4
>3d land
>4 kirby rehashes
>sticker star
>mario & luigi dogshit
>worst mario tennis
>worst mario parties
>skyward
>2 galaxies
>metroid prime hunters
>fucking entire stream dedicated to RUSTYS REAL FUCKING DEAL
What am i forgetting?

>>715505472
>he never came home from school and played toy field on Mario baseball with his friends
I pity you chud

>>715505614
That game is from 2005, you're a zoomer.

Marvel vs Capcom, Super smash bros brawl, Portal 2, Skyrim, a link between worlds, and cult of the lamb are dogshit.

>>715505589
I beat La mulana without using a guide except for 2 obvious things that I completely could have figured out myself and felt like a complete idiot after looking them up
michael jackson and the mantra where you mudt smack the snake statue beforehand
Even figured out how to get the flail but couldnt see the dancing fucking man

>>715505654
>middle school in 2005
>zoomer
Are you actually fucking retarded

Fate Extella the umbral star is not only the best musou game, it’s also the best visual novel.

>>715505690
>>middle school in 2005
Yeah you're a zoomer

>>715505472
I don't know why but this response couple with the period after it just gives off pure woman vibes. Should I perhaps rape you?

>>715487321
I would call the first one completely overrated even though I've beaten it at least six times

>>715505602
brawl was the wii smash title. If you meant Wii U, then there's even less hope for you.

>>715486315 (OP)
Fallout 1 is overrated
The Jensen Deus Ex games are on par with the original
Half Life 2 is EXTREMELY overrated and honestly kinda shit, especially compared to HL1
System Shock 1 is better than 2
Dead Space remake is better than the original

>>715505769
Grandpa gamer.. holy baste

>>715486315 (OP)
>What is your most contrarian gaming opinion?
Old game isn't always better than new game. Sometimes old game is bad, and new game is good.

>>715505823
Where was the other half of sm4sh, anon?

>>715505860
You wanna give an example? You might be on to something with say Armored Core.

>>715505769
Zoomer year starts at 1997 retard

Veilguard wasn't THAT bad.

The writing and especially the characters were pretty weak(the non-binary Qunari was truly grating), but the gameplay itself was pretty fun. The more linear levels was a breath of fresh air in a sea of open world games.
It plays a lot like the Mass Effect trilogy, and I hope they copy over the style to the new game they are making. Just with better writing obviously. But with Veilguard flopping who knows. Hope they don't go for another Andromeda style open world.

>>715486478
Truly brave and stunning.

>>715505876
What are you even saying?

>>715505602
>Wii and 3ds were probably the worst era for nintendo games
It wasnt there strongest, sure but the switch era was weaker. Ive had a lot of time to think about it, and i prefer the wii era. Gcn / gba / ds were peak. n64 and wii were good. The rest i admit i dont personslly feel to strongly about but i gotta acknowledge the sheer number of classics in the nes and snes era. The 3ds isnt impressive but its a big step up from wii u and switch.

Switch 2 i feel will be a huge let down

>>715505958
>sm4sh was so fuckinh dogshit anon memory holed the 3ds version
Dont blame you

>>715505901
You don't even remember 1997, zoomer.

>>715505991
>He didn't buy Smash for Wii U
What a faggot.

>>715488265
Based
>>715488375
Gay

>>715506064
>7 uptilts into 5 nairs true combo: the game
No thanks pal.

>>715488265
Kys
>>715488375
Kys

Mgs 2 and 3 sre arguably the best mgs games the series is mostly pretty even, 4 is good but a step down and 5 is... well 5 doesnt count

>>715506124
Translation: WAH! I was wrong when I said Mega Man was never going to be playable in Smash!
I diagnose you with terminally online. Prescription, go outside.

FF6 is extremely overrated. It's popular because for the last 20ish years people have been demanding it's one of the best RPGs. It's like Earthbound, most fans of the game never actually played it.

Mario 64 is not fun. Unlike OoT it aged like shit. It has it's place in history but the game itself is not fun.

MoP was the last good, and soulful WoW expansion. It was the last time the game felt like a game not a job that required you to put in X amount of time every day.

>>715505662
>mvc and brawl are dogshit
Youre just the worst sort of person

>>715487958
when the fuck was it ever sold on survival horror?

And on Grounded (how the game is intended to be played, and by far the most fun), supplies are extremely scarce so you must scavenge everything you can and be careful with your usage.

>and completely forgets what makes real survival mechanics interesting such as food and water, warmth, infection, etc.
nevermind, just autism

>>715486315 (OP)
Despite many flaws, Starbound is more fun to play that Terraria.

>>715492914
>serious sam is peak fps
Not contrarian, just dangerously based.

>>715504179
Youre approaching it wrong desu. Kirby games are mario games for actual babies. Of course they suck for adults. It’s not meant to be enjoyed by adults, or at least adults that are good at video games. Good grandma game tho, Ive coached my mom through a kirby 3ds game

>>715486315 (OP)
Portal 1&2 has a really stupid story and it's (mostly) memorable for having funny characters rather than a deep sense of pathos. The "reddit game" accusations are not entirely unfounded.

>>715506309
>anon is presented with a genuine complaint and flaw of the game.
>starts babbling about incoherent shit in a desperate attempt to change the su ject
Classic 3dsbab, you'll leaen to argue when you grow up

>>715488647
>doesn't mean it couldn't have had layered and complex gameplay.
oh fuck off retard, basically no game in existence has done hunger/thirst meters, "infection meters", or body temperature meters well. EVER.

Nobody fucking wants this shit in an action game. Fuck off you absolute autistic shitstain.

It's like bitching that Tetris is bad because it doesn't have a battle royale mode, because it should if it's a skill-based competitive game. Kys.

>>715506539
Games can be for kids and also be good at the same time
Same as kids shows and books can be genuinely insightful and thoughtful even if the audience ks like 5 year olds
Kirby games are just bland slop

Super Mario 64 is an impressive effort for early 3D, but as a game, it is absolute dogshit

Crash Bandicoot is the best platforming series of all time (1 > 2 > 3)

The Evil Within is the absolute peak of action horror and just better than RE4 overall (and RE4 is still brilliant)

Dark Souls 1 is the worst of all the Souls games

turn-based JRPGs are almost universally garbage

Nier Automata is one of the worst games I have ever played and I hated almost every minute of it

>>715497060
I like the idea of fighting a grizzly bear MH style.

>>715506751
>Crash Bandicoot is the best platforming series of all time (1 > 2 > 3)
Nigga has never played Rayman or DKC.
>Dark Souls
Souls are just Monster Hunter Knockoffs with worse combat

>>715506751
>Super Mario 64 is absolute dogshit
>Crash Bandicoot is the best platforming series of all time
lol you low IQ creatures do sometimes entertain me with your blatant agendas

>>715506831
Those are both great platformers, I just don't enjoy them as much as Crash.

>>715497060
>>715497249
>>715499850
Monster Hunter peaked before the 3ds dogshit entries so you're too late
But yes, its superior to Souls.
Also, you dont sharpen ranged weapons but of course you know that

>>715506751
>Super Mario 64 is an impressive effort for early 3D, but as a game, it is absolute dogshit
>Crash Bandicoot is the best platforming series of all time (1 > 2 > 3)
HOLY. FUCKING. BASED.

>>715505069
>>715505124
>>715505194
I hate that its underserved praise and influence has gotten to the point of ruining other games. It was bad enough when it was only Homestuck cosplayers flooding conventions.

>>715506630
Kirby is a casual game for single digit age children and extremely casual adults. It cannot appeal to experienced gamers. It’s meant to be easy and understandable. Thats the entire point of a kirby game over a mario one.
Also kirby games are cute and have cool characters too

>>715486315 (OP)
Since you asked for it OP
I think all video games are slop and are for brainwashed cattle just like you and me OP
Video games will never be good at all.
Along with anything in the entertainment industry and pretty much anything in life

Out of all the new doom games I enjoy 2016 the most

>>715507118
Meanwhile, kids media that respects the kids intelligence:

>>715489789
Best post in this entire thread
>>715491001
99% might be too high but it is still correct.
Don't want shit games being made? Don't buy them.
>hurr durr >>>I<<< don't buy them
Fuck you nigger your single non-purchase won't mean shit if there are other faggots who still buy the game.
You need 0 buyers for Total Niggerwokedevs Death

>>715505139
Here's another contrarian (for /v/) opinion. I can actually trust Rockstar to not put out a complete piece of shit. RDR2 was good

>>715507404
Gta trilogy definite edition.

>>715486315 (OP)
1. Street Fighter 3rd Strike and V are the best games in the series. They have the best and least intrusive mechanics, the best feeling movement, and the graphics are generally pretty good. IV is incredibly overrated, the new characters are shit, the graphics are ugly, and it feels like you're playing in mud. 6 is shit, too, but that's only contrarian to normalfags
2. I think Fusion is a good Metroid game, you just have to take it for what it is. The only bad Metroid game is Samus Returns, and even that isn't that bad in and of itself.
3. Blasphemous 2 was awful, has janky combat, and the writing relies on cliches. It basically felt like a parody of the first one.
4. I find Blood boring compared to Duke Nukem and Shadow Warrior. It's a good game mechanically speaking, but the atmosphere and characters are all very generic, which makes it feel so much less interesting and stand out compared to Duke.
5. Guilty Gear Strive is the only good Guilty Gear game. Every other one feels like you're flailing paper dolls at each other. +R is ugly and has horrible feedback on hits, and Xrd has a shit roster. Strive is beautifully animated and actually feels like a real fighting game.
6. Oblivion is the worst TES game, and perhaps one of the worst RPGs ever. It's ugly, has horrible voice acting, a generic setting, and a plot that the tech at the time simply couldn't allow to reach its fullest. It's broken out of the box and is full of copypasted, prefab content that typically flies in the face of immersion and worldbuilding (bandits with daedric weapons). As a huge TES fan, I hate it. I would go so far to say Skyrim isn't actually as bad, and is actually MUCH better than Oblivion could ever hope to be.
7. MGS2 is incredibly overrated. I enjoyed it, but the game constantly interrupts you with soap opera tier melodrama and the Big Shell is not at all an interesting map. It's only considered so highly because it's baby's first meta-narrative

>>715507691
>less intrusive mechanics
Nigga parry?
>fusion good
Oh youre trolling

I think video games was still at peak during the 8th gen despite /v/ and others bitch that game stop begin good after 2010, I think it was during the pre trump era, where all the shitty woke/business practice started to become the norm, just like everything else in the world went to shit when that orange fuck became president.

.t not /pol/ or libtard

>>715507691
>SFV
>a game with no throw invuln
>good

>>715507773
>Nigga parry?
Parrying doesn't actually happen as much as people make out. It rewards good reads and reflexes. Unlike, say, 6, where people are constantly using Drive Rush or something, parrying is not a constant thing. You won't be getting your attacks parried every single time, and if you are getting them parried a lot, it's on you to learn how to diversify your gameplan.

>>715486315 (OP)
Steins;Gate is the worst of the mainstream visual novels.

>>715507943
>literally negate the entirety of your opponents moves minus grabs
Yeah not important

>>715508025
I think blocking does that too

>>715486315 (OP)
the new Lords of the Fallen is the best souls game that wasn't made by Fromsoftware

>>715508117
Chip damage is a mechanic for a reason

>>715491978
:|

>>715505675
Good job man, bet those two will be puzzles you will never forget.
Happy to see someone having struggled a lot with some puzzles that are not the usual suspects like bending the knee, where the finger points or Birth in general.

The action era of Resident Evil, 4, 5, 6, Rev 1 and Rev 2. Is miles better than the RE Engine era.

>>715486315 (OP)
video games are a waste of time and we really fucked up hard.

>>715490924
Most of these aren't contrarian opinions, they're just idiotic

>>715508217
Parry lockout and reducing throw priority also exist for a reason. And you can't parry a lot of things high or low that you can block high and low

Elden Ring DLC was too hard.

>>715508330
Daily reminder you cant block in the air but you can parry.
Same as you can obviously parry high low and specials (everyone knows this shit due to daigo anyway)

>>715486478

>>715486315 (OP)
Binding of Isaac is the worst of the major roguelikes by far.

>>715487484
The tech race was a way to outcompete smaller studios who couldn't keep up with the rising dev costs. Too bad the faggot big companies got destroyed by low tech games like Minecraft lol And yeah they were also seething at the Wii for not complying with their ways.

>>715488256
same desu i dont want my game to look like irl i already fucking look at it normally I want my games to LOOK like games thats why I roll my eyes whenever fucking someone complains about "le fortnite le mobile game artstyle Xdd"

>>715486315 (OP)
There hasn't been a good game that wasn't indie-made since 2012

>>715486315 (OP)
Dark souls is a bad game and people are only getting into it because it's a Male Bonding ritual, because if you don't like Souls it means you're a nigger bitch faggot who can't into games.

>>715509421
I enjoyed rebirth but the DLC took it from a 7/10 to a 2/10

>>715509421
Enther the bulletspongeon exists so that's wrong.

>>715486315 (OP)
I honestly think the 2d Mario games are inferior to the 3d ones due to the limited movement options. Not calling them bad, just not as good. Mario World is an exception

>>715487484
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxvM1A_uHuI

Metal Slug 4 is the best one and I'm not baiting

Fallout 76 is the best game in the Fallout franchise and I’m not baiting

>>715486315 (OP)
Every single game, except fighting games, would be better if there were no combat.

>>715508919
>the gachafag cries out in pain as he strikes you

>>715509421
Nigga Hades 1 is literal dogshit with no variety
Dont even get me started on Rogue Legacy
Noita also becomes a fucking chore when going for anything but the basic bitch ending (but /v/ likes to act like the game is good anyway because args are zoomers favorite thing)

>>715486315 (OP)
The Elder Scrolls as a whole is pure garbage, from start to finish. Not a single redeeming entry in the series, not one.
>Arena
Inferior to Ultima Underworld and a shitty clone.
>Daggerfall
More of the same, now with a bloated map that's more interesting as a statistic and trivia answer than it is to play.
>Battlespire
Just pure dogshit.
>Redguard
First entry to actually try and do something interesting, but crippled by poor optimization, draw distance, and just horrific gameplay.
>Morrowind
The only good thing about the story is the setting and the world. Thinking about playing Morrowind is better than actually playing it. It's bad.
>Oblivion
No amount of revisionism and people SOVLposting will ever redeem this crock of shit. Somehow managed to fix a complaint with having a lot more memorable characters and slightly better combat, but everything else is somehow worse.
>Skyrim
The ensloppification is complete, somehow stripped away any charm the past two games had while making the gameplay 10% better. World also looks shittier than Oblivion, miserable game.
>ESO
lol

>>715486315 (OP)
Visual novels are games, as long as they have choices that lead to different endings.

>>715488437
True as well as with rewards you would get when making decisions. Now you have to look up what the consequences are for each and every decision the game wants you to make. It's exhausting.

>>715509889
I don't believe either of your claims.

>>715510550
>I HAVE TO LOOK IT UP
Uh... have you tried experiencing the game and discovering shit yourself?
>>715488437
Zoomers inability to understand replayablility and decisions mattering boggles my mind when all they consume is roguelike shit

>>715510662
>inb4
>I HAVE TO EXPERIENCE 100% OF THE GAME IN 1 PLAYTHROUGH
No. Fuck off.

>>715486315 (OP)
I'll paste this from a Metal Gear thread the other day because it's "contrarian" compared to mainstream discourse:

>PEAK METAL GEAR
MG1, MG2:SS, MGS1
>Okay you guys since you nag too much, one last good title from me, enjoy ;)
MGS2
>FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF HERE TAKE THIS SHIT AND LEAVE ME ALONE
MGS3, MGS4
>ALRIGHT MOTHERFUCKERS TIME TO SHIT ON EVERYTHING YOU LIKED ABOUT THE SERIES
MGSPW, MGSV

And people enjoy the latter slops. Absolute SHITTER taste.
The series should've ended at MGS1 or MGS2 at most even though it's a totally unnecessary sequel.
However, MGS3 and the whole Big BITCH wankjob is completely unneeded and removes all mystique of his character, it's like retarded kids adding OC monsters in the Backrooms kind of crap.
If anything (considering how batshit insane the death threat niggers were) the series final FINAL cutoff should've been at MGS3 and NOTHING MORE. Hungry for slop retards made MGS4.

Don't get me started on the shitshow that is TPP. No, it isn't "unfinished" nor it isn't a "creatividad phantom unfinished gayme heheh get it" or "Mission 51 is da endingz!!". The game is utter crap from top to bottom, a fucking insult to what the series originally was, and nothing can salvage it besides a full re-write.
I'm not denying the fluidity of the controls, how well the game plays, and the robustness of the Fox engine by the way. My hate is for the utterly awful mishandling of the already crappy story.

For one, I cannot wholly blame Kojima when his fans happily gargle whatever he shits out and threaten him for more, but he is also at fault for taking the auteurpill from all the bootlicking he gets from people. At least he has his own series that he can fuck around as freely as he likes, for good or for bad, without ruining the image of an already established and great franchise.

>>715510662
>Uh... have you tried experiencing the game and discovering shit yourself?
And possibly miss out on content I'd had liked much more?? Fuck no
>Zoomers inability to understand replayablility
Not everyone wants to replay games or even has the time to replay them when there are so many other games on their backlog

>>715486315 (OP)
ssb brawl was fun

>>715486315 (OP)
Winning is the least interesting part of any PvP shooter, just give me a big meaty midfight instead of objectives.

>>715511252
>not everyone wants to replay games or has the time
>saying this when all of the fucking normalfag games are open world 800+ hours slop and the """niche""" fags replay dark souls to ng+11
?

Shit graphics are a sign that you're in for a good time. Music has to be banger though.
I don't give a FUCK about clipping.
Reuse assets as much as you want if you make new gameplay with them.
It's ideal when companies just make the same game over and over again with some variations. If I want new game I'll go to a different company instead of begging for new milk from the same teat.
Humans are the ultimate prey. You aren't skilled at video games if you aren't skilled at PVP.
"nyoo that's a roguelite not a roguelike" "visual novels aren't games they're interactive books" "platform fighters aren't fighting game" STFU. You are literally a fucking moron if you think genres matter.
If you mainly play triple A games you don't love video games.
Popular things are usually good. New things are usually better. Indie and retro is still king.
Playing a game that you don't like is 100% your own fault for not doing enough research.

>>715491163
you lead me to my unpopular opinion, RE2 remake is mid. I got every achievement out of completionism (dlc included) but it was an indifferent exprerience. first playthrough is barely ok, getting the true ending was kind a chore. like half the maps are not fun, the game is carried hard by the police station. I'll never understand the goty nomination. must have been a slow year.

I think video games are fun.

>>715489583
who said you could post my wife?

>>715486315 (OP)
Cyberpunk
Witcher 3
Zelda games
Souls games
All suck ass

>>715486315 (OP)
Genre is almost never the problem, it's the implementation. There is nothing wrong with survival crafting as an idea.
Obsession with realism and realistic graphics is an extension of the middle school desire to act grown up and fear of appearing childish, that some people never grew out of. It is making gaming worse.
The loss of the stylus killed multiple genres and is one of the biggest loses in gaming.
Cross play is bad. Keep the cheaters in their own pc area.

>>715486315 (OP)
Your waifu a shit

>>715486315 (OP)
I think open world games, when done well, are good.

>>715506048
nigga thats the official designation

I dropped Dark souls halfway trough and never bothered with anything else FromSoft made
It's not as hard as people meme, i beat the capra 2nd try, it just doesn't respect your time. Whoever came up with the idea of making you drop souls on death deserves to be beaten with a rusty nail bat, jogging for 5 minutes each time you get killed because of a cheap trick is not fun

>>715488493
>>715493495
>>715505956
>>715508919
>seething gambling addicts lash out immediately
Loving Every Laugh

>>715486315 (OP)
saving your progress in games ruined games more than MTX and Loot Boxes could ever dream

>>715486315 (OP)
Apollo Justice trilogy > Phoenix Wright trilogy

>>715486315 (OP)
I still like being able to pet dogs in games.

>>715486315 (OP)
persona 3-5 kinda fucking blow
shin megami tensei is way better overall
n64 has like 8 worthwhile games, not justifying the cost of a flashcart
sega genesis has soul
saturn > n64 but ps1 = saturn(only if you like shmups and treasure) > n64
scart for the ps1 is a meme, s video is the most you need, but for anything 2d eccentric scarts the way to go.
if you don't have friends (me) ps1 and saturn are your best picks for that gen, unless you need to suckle nintendos balls and get that zelda/mario 64 fix.
super nintendo, genesis, and pce engine with no cd or addons was the peak generation.
ps2 is kinda mid save for dmc, god hand, armored core, and ace combat; the rpg sequels to ps1 games are mostly shit (wild arms 3-5, suikoden 3-5)
true successor to the nes is the genesis
treasure games are just as good as some of the best capcom games if not better.
Every megaman released after 8/X4 on console is shit.
Mobile megaman games from GBA-DS are kino, but we should have gotten them on psp.
Monster hunter Generations ultimate is peak, and should get a pc port eventually even if you can emulate it just fine.
The only ridge racer worth playing is R4.
DeS, DaS1, Sekiro > Elden Ring > DaS2 > Das3; but this is only cause i like Tenchu.
the RE remakes are not worthwhile and you should probably play OG 1-3 on the PS1.
Gamecubes kinda ass.
Dreamcast has soul, despite a limited library, not including sonic adventure which is very mid.
Atelier games without the time limit suck ass and are too easy.
Yakuza games in general have a better portrayal of japan than persona 5 does.
The only thing persona 5 has is style and tunes, and that's about it, i'd rather gorge myself in SMT soul hackers.
Guardian heroes is the best beat em up of all time.
Konami hasn't made a good game since PS1, excluding kojima stuff during ps2.
Goemon is one of the greatest game series of all time.
Deception games on the ps1 are worth playing, skip trapt, and move to deception iv.

>>715514527
I ran out of space but, last one
Ace combat and armored core have a similar structure campaign wise and if someone likes one , they'd probably like the other.

>>715498452
Awww...

>>715486315 (OP)
smash as a series has never been good. fun?sure. but the games in terms of quality have always been kusoge.
Ultimate specifically is this weird mess that trips over whether it wants to be a shallow key jangler like its predecessors or something with competitive merit but doesn't do either particularly right as their attempts to appeal to both sides just muddies shit and it ends up being this yucky mess with no merit to it outside of its roster.

A game should not be allowed to cost more than $30 by law. It should be a requirement by law to archive and make accessible all previous versions of the game to anyone who has purchased the product. It should be illegal to sell expansions, microtransactions or subscription services within a video game. It should be illegal to make exclusive content within the game that is impossible to obtain for players who started playing too late. It should be possible to refund a digital video game at any time for any reason by law.

>>715487958
>real survival mechanics interesting such as food and water, warmth, infection, etc.
Survival horror has never been about any of those mechanics from the genre's earliest years. It's purely about resource management in a horror setting, doesn't even have to be ammo or health items either it could just as much be about managing a stamina meter or batteries for your camcorder. That's it, that's what it's always been about. You're conflating it with the wider survival genre.

>>715486478
Nothing contrarian about it
Anime
Anime games
And gahcas are garbage

RE4DEMAKE is peak woke tranny slop
The fact that reddit trannies thought Crowbcat was one of them is the reason they're seething and in shambles

>>715486315 (OP)
1) a majority of the beloved platformers aren't very good (rayman, crash, dk though dk64 is very enjoyable).

2) banjo isn't bad but extremely overrated, absolutely doesn't need a comeback

3) i'd play bubsy 3d over most releases from the last decade any day, at least it had a surrrealist vision unafraid to be different

4) i don't think this is as controversial as it used to be but half life 2 has nothing on half life 1

5) fighting games are boring, platform fighters included

6) tee lopes' music does not fit sonic and the mania soundtrrack is mostly forgettable

7) yooka-laylee was not as bad as everyone said though it was a very ugly game

>>715501279
Based

/v/ should be deleted and broken up into more gaming boards. Also there should be a dedicated culture war board thats like /pol/ but SFW where twitter screenshot threads and e-celeb gossip should go.

>>715515195
Honestly like all games, compfags ruin everything.
Peak Smash fun is items ON and ANY map can be picked.
>inb4 shitter
Read the thread topic

>>715517129
>/v/ should be deleted and broken up into more gaming boards.
I'm all for this, but what's the point when it's not being enforced with the current boards already?
>Also there should be a dedicated culture war board thats like /pol/ but SFW where twitter screenshot threads and e-celeb gossip should go.
The problem here is that it would be used as a base of operations for raiding.

>>715486315 (OP)
Gamers want games to be considered art so they can pretend wasting time in front of a screen is somehow meaningful.

Planetside 3 could have Fornite level popularity if they develop it (properly)

>>715517495
>Sculptors want sculptures to be considered art so they can pretend wasting time in front of a statue is somehow meaningful.
>Film makers want movies to be considered art so they can pretend wasting time in front of a projector is somehow meaningful.
>Musicians want music to be considered art so they can pretend wasting time listening to waves is somehow meaningful.
>Painters want paintings to be considered art so they can pretend wasting time in front of a canvas is somehow meaningful.

As always, the definition of art comes down to the creators intent

Bomberman 64 is the only good Bomberman game.

>>715517129
I've had similar thoughts to the former myself
Mostly just that I think there should be a /vn/ - vidya/new similar to /vr/. For upcoming games or ones less than 6 months old or so. Real simple, general solution to affording more games more space without getting pushed out by spam about newest AAA/FOTM/controversy.
Better than whatever they were thinking with /vrpg/ and /vst/ anyway. Or the complete misuse of /vmg/. /vm/ is a good boy though even if I don't use it.

>>715506751
>crash bandicoot
Crash Bandicoot's platforming is literally worse than Bubsy 3D.

>>715488887
>Mario RPGs are unironically the most enjoyable RPGs.
Anon is a literal child

>>715518707
>I think there should be a /vn/ - vidya/new similar to /vr/. For upcoming games or ones less than 6 months old or so.
I really like this idea
>Better than whatever they were thinking with /vrpg/ and /vst/ anyway. Or the complete misuse of /vmg/.
This was by design. Those boards were only created so certain moderators, Aka Abib, could move threads they didn't like but weren't allowed to delete....which they also decided to do anyways making it pointless

>>715515662
modern /v/ is a gacha board

>>715486315 (OP)
If it has a save file it's a movie game

>>715516137
Based
>>715515679
Based
>>715514527
Agree with most except ps2 is the best console of all time. And konami made a lot of good rhythm games. And gradius V with treasure

>>715491001
>if (You)'re not principled no one is
i did my part and boycotted mw2 and every cod since
its not my fault

>>715486315 (OP)
GTA Vice City is a horrible game that's only remembered fondly because of the aesthetic/radio music choices.

>>715486315 (OP)
FF was never good and turn based combat sucks ass

ASSFAGGOTS esports games are fun. Coordinating with randoms is an important life skill

>>715520223
>turn based combat sucks ass
That's supposed to be contrarian?

Dark Souls 2 is the worst game in the series and deserves far more hate. Dark Souls 3 is the best

>>715486315 (OP)
The FPS genre has been in stagnation for fucking decades now and all its games play the same just with a coat of paint so they look different (they barely do)

>>715486315 (OP)
Videogames are no longer a real hobby.

>>715486315 (OP)
baldurs gate 2 > baldurs gate 3

>>715486315 (OP)
Menu turn-based JRPGs have samey, shallow gameplay and combat system. If you've played one, you have played all of them.

>>715521759
I wish there was more merit to turn based games by having bosses with distinct phases/behaviors and counter-interactions. It should not feel like I am playing solitaire but a back-and-forth battle of attrition and risk.

>>715521759
>>715521892
The solution to making turn-based combat more interesting has always been the ability to position your characters on a field, like FFT. However, that's already a strategic layer too deep for most consumers.

>>715486315 (OP)
>read Dungeon Meshi and love it
>try to find a game that captures the feel of the series
>/v/: play Etrian Odyssey or any blobber bro xD
No utility or overworld skill for each class e.g. rogue can scout/detect & disarm traps/pick locks. No positioning-based tactical combat. Combat is just selecting an action from the menu and watching the battle animations. No hunger and fatigue. No camping. No cooking. No foraging. No crafting. Forest map is just green corridors, seafloor map is just blue corridors, volcano map is just red corridors, etc. I really don't get the hype for blobbers. I think Pathfinder WOTR has better dungeon exploration than all the blobbers that I've tried so far, gameplay and experience wise.

>>715486315 (OP)
For some reason saying Fallout 3 is good is seen as a contrarian opinion, despite the game having mass appeal, it certainly did at the time of its release, but even though it's forgotten by many and inexplicably reviled by others, none of that detracts from the objective quality of the game

>>715486315 (OP)
Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate is one of the weaker classic MH titles. I'd put it below FU, 3U and GU.

>>715486478
holy based
>>715493334
try use more than your hand

the last of us the worst of its genre

>>715486315 (OP)
Obenseuer is as good or even better than INFRA and it's criminally slept on

>>715486315 (OP)
It doesn't matter, because I speak my mind on matters, and almost nobody has anything to say. So I just assume most everyone knows they're conditioned, and are ok with it as long as they get moar. It's really kinda sad and disheartening

I have 120 hours in Elden Ring and couldn't finish it a single time. It's that boring. Arguably the worst game Fromsoft has ever made.

The Dark Souls games are built on linearity and exploration, an item behind a staircase, hidden entrance during an elevator - how does that work in an open world setting? It doesn't, at least not my OCD brain that wants to get everything and doesn't want to miss anything.

Way too easy bosses, most in first try, bad game overall imho and it was just downhill from there

>>715486478
fippy bippy
naysayers are incel niggers

>>715525313

>>715487667
I agree
I still think they need to nerf ToA a tiny bit

>>715491114
This is actually the common opinion.

>>715491730
Well said. ER really isn't that good, and it sucks it sold so well because it means more undercooked slop. Also, I hate the Slave Knight Gael fight because it's boring, but I love the area before him because it's massive with lots of cool points of interest.

>>715486315 (OP)
Open worlds are a detriment to every single game they're added to. Any good open world game is good despite being open world, no the other way around. The only exception to this rule is sandbox games that have no real story or goal.

>>715491826
Almost all of these aren't even contrarian, just straight fact

>>715506486
This. imo it's less that Starbound is fun, and more so that Terraria is one of the most boring games I've played in my life. Fuck me it's dry.

>>715486315 (OP)
DKC games soundtracks are shit. Straight up unintelligible.

>>715510309
>Dont even get me started on Rogue Legacy
This one game made me think contact damage was fine, to contact damage was made by satan to torture God's innocent children on this earth. What a pile of shit that game is. The sequel is somehow worse.

EDF is plain bad. It has nothing going for it except for muh jankiness and muh funny anthem. The series used to be a budget title with low production value low price, but the recent installments are all kikeslops with low production value AAA price. Gameplay-wise it gets mogged hard by DRG, HD2, and Space Marine 2.

>>715486315 (OP)
Considering last few weeks it is “games should be owned” according to v

white """people""" should be killed on sight and their women strictly BBC'd

>>715529081
That's a jewish woman dough?

>>715490469
Yeah, like FXI. Months went by before people got jumpscared by the existence of Absolute Virtue. Now shit gets datamined from some hidden folder before the update actually goes live

>>715486478
That's just common sense.

ff16 is better than e33

Classic Tomb Raider sucks shit and I'm sick of hearing people say that it's actually any way decent.

>>715529483
That's just common sense, Anon. A japanese video game will always be better than a western one. Also E33 is woke slop

>>715528828
>low production value AAA price
Wrong. You can play EDF5 in EDF6, meaning D3P literally repackaged and resold EDF5 as a new game with close to zero budget. Weebs really are dumb retarded cattles.

>>715528751
low-effort bait

>>715486315 (OP)
Story, music and visuals are more important than gameplay.

Story is by far the least important part of a video game

>>715487018
They just have to make sure it's not some blatant pandering shit, which means I never want to see a black female in a lead casting role EVER again, in games, film, magazines covers, or anything else.
Also no wheelchairs or other gay handicaps, that Michael Jackson "I haven't solen something in 24 hours" black skin regression disease, gay people, trannies -- especially Ellen Page (lmao) or some 50 y/o fat bald business man who lost his mind from working 9 to 5 for 30 years. There's more, but you get the idea. Doesn't have to be a supermodel.

>>715530183
Ace Attorney is among capcoms best IP

>>715530579
Meds, tranny

>>715530647
Shu takumi is the only director left at capcom who is worth anything. Enjoy your shitty MH and endless resident evil remakes.

>>715506276
>and 5 is... well 5 doesnt count
You don't like peace walker ??

>>715513591
YOU DON'T REMEMBER 1994. 1995. 1996. 1997. 1998 OR EVEN 1999. FUCKING ZOOMER.

>>715529912
Name one good track that isn't jungle japes

>>715530752
>Enjoy your shitty MH and endless resident evil remakes
Nigga, I hate that woke tranny slop

>>715530873
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMBFdtRbFD0

>>715486315 (OP)
Nintendo has entered their worst era and people who disagree are either too young to remember how they used to operate, too stupid, or refuse to admit they are changing for the worse. This is from someone that has been ride or die Nintendo since 1996.

Steam isn’t great, but it is also the only reason PC gaming survived and has grown to what it is today. When Gabe dies it may kill PC gaming if his replacement doesn’t share the mindset or Valve goes public.

Souls like games have reached their peak with Elden Ring, next big entry might be another dark souls 2, needs a new direction.

The expectation that a single game should provide over 100 hours of fun to justify its price is a retard take and the reason so many games are filled with useless collecting and empty open worlds that are boring to play

>>715531684
Current generation games shouldn't be emulated for free

My takes on the monster hunter series is what people have responded the most negatively to in the past. And after Wilds. Look who was right again. This guy. I didn't say it was bad, I said it was one the laziest franchises around today.

Actual controversial take. Japanese developers are just guilty as western developers when it comes to being creatively bankrupt, milking people with low effort cash grabs and endlessly recycling the same ideas over and over again.

Another controversial take. Ubisoft is not that bad as developer. Their in house engine is actually really technically sound compared to other studios in house engines. Certainly better than Unreal engine.

>>715531684
>Souls games peaked with Elden Ring
>So many games are filled with useless collecting and empty open worlds that are boring to play

Contrarians are just hipsters, the majority is right for a good reason.
Disagreeing with things isn't a personality.

Billion-dollar corporations are not your friend, and you're pathetic for sucking up to them. If you agree with everything new, you're just a mindless puppet. Most new video games are just woke slop and this is reflected in the sales figures

Dark Souls 2's biggest sin was following a genre-defining masterpiece.
I go even further and say that Dark Souls 1 should have been Demon's Souls 2 (since its filles with demons) and Dark Souls 2 should have been Dark Souls 1 (since its filled with humans, who are the dark) and that probably would have skewed the perception of it upwards since it wouldnt be given a 'different series' credit.

>>715486315 (OP)
sport games like madden, fifa, and nba shouldn't exist. get off your ass and play it irl

>>715486315 (OP)
Banjo was never good

>>715489789
Holy white.

>>715522779
Play an old wizardry game for ps1 or snes or saturn

>>715486315 (OP)
Parrying is fucking gay. Blocking/dodging will always be superior

Turn-based RPG battles need a gimmick to be fun, like Mario & Luigi or Undertale. Otherwise I'm just pressing attack and occasionally heal until I win.

>>715531979
Yes, combat mechanics and core gameplay wise, rpg element, and boss design are the best they’ve been while adhering to the same core system as demons souls.

Game would have been much better if the map was reduced by 50% if not more. But as far as the “souls game” design goes I think they’ve done as much as they can with the current mindset

>>715486315 (OP)
medieval fantasy puts me to sleep and there's too many games with it

>>715486315 (OP)
childhood bias is real

>>715534085
True. RE4DEMAKE is peak woke tranny slop and people only like it because of the nostalgia goggles they have for Capcom

>>715486315 (OP)
games cannot be art because they are interactive and user removes the integrity of artistic vision, games also shouldnt aim to be "deep" and philosophical as the main point of the game, it should be a side thing to introduce ideas that people would ponder about afterwards while actually still focusing on making a fun power fantasy campaign that looks good and is fun to play. Also every game should have romance and self-inserting elements as well as some form of choice making

>>715486315 (OP)
Hollow Knight and all Souls games suck
Being hard shouldn't be a positive, I'd rather have fun games instead of grinding my ass when I could just move on
I've beaten DMC 1 3 4 and V, I just don't like hard games

The intention behind every single western video game that is posted on /v/ is to shill it

>>715534334
>dark souls
>grinding my ass
git gud, fagit

There are no good 3D Zelda games.

>>715486315 (OP)
Shadow Warrior Is better than blood

>>715534204
>games cannot be art
is this even a thing people say anymore? with how most games today are gaas or heavily monitised its not something ive heard thrown around these days

>>715486315 (OP)
3D graphics were a mistake

all of gamings current ills can be blamed on the internet

>>715536007
*all of gamings current ills can be blamed on women and faggots
FTFY

>>715486315 (OP)
Preordering a game is perfectly fine, and back when it was still a thing, very distinct from *reserving* a game which is not fine. Preordering does not require any upfront financial investment and even with stores that you let charge ahead. Canceling gives you all your money back. The developers don’t see a dime until the game launches.

But piracy is always the best option.

>>715515679

>>715536147
of course
it was women and faggots who gave us always online, live service shit, gacha, lootboxes, microtransactions, etc

>>715537825
Kys tranny
>>715537837
Dragon Age: The Veilguard
Doom: The Dark Ages
Forspoken
Avowed
South of Midnight
Dustborn
Returnal
Deathloop
Saints Row (2022)
Immortals of Aveum

I'm pretty sure these games don't have any of the mentioned features, yet they all flopped. It must be the damn microtransactions!!

>>715538518

>>715538563
Keep seething, troon

>>715538607
malding nigger cant come up with a post that isnt comprised of pure slop buzzwords

>>715538643
Cry me a river, tranny ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Final Fantasy is a shit series
It's absolute garbage
Should have died after the first game and be a forgotten gimick game

>>715538695
dont start crying and post a bunch of wojaks

>>715538762
Keep
Seething
Tranny
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I prefer crazy Jack the Ripper Raiden of MGR then the MUH ROSE MUH FAMILY MUH LIFE, I UM A MONSTER Raiden of MGS4

>>715538798
>least tranny obsessed /v/ermin

>>715486315 (OP)
Children should be killable and fuckable in vidya games

PlayStation was always the best console with games that value quality over quantity

>>715538939
Dilate, tranny

>>715538987
not interested in your fantasies

Anyone complaining about meta existing as a thing is a massive faggot upset over people being better than him.

>>715539027
Quintessential troon post

>>715539092
niggertarded anon chimping out over being told to use real words and not fotmslop wordchow

>>715539421
Stay away from pre schools, pedo

>>715486315 (OP)
Dead Space 2 was the best one.

>>715486315 (OP)
World is the only good Monster Hunter game.

>>715539512
i won btw

>>715541230
Take your meds, tranny

>>715541265
you first

>>715541435
Meds
Tranny
Take
Em