>play this it is DF with GUI
Where are the dwarves? I see no dwarves. Not even elves. I'm not playing spaceslop.
>play DF?
No, that's too hard.

>>715498487 (OP)
who are you arguing with?

>>715498487 (OP)
It really is like going from europa universalis to The Sims
It's exactly why I haven't played it in years

>>715498487 (OP)
It's a dirt common denominator

>>715498487 (OP)
>too hard
DF is piss easy and honestly there's not much to do in it once you make farms, a dining hall and 250 bedrooms.
the UI is perfect, showing you all key presses and hot keys available to you at all times.
I havent even played in 10 years (cuz nothing has been added with updates) and I still remember the hotkeys through all the menus.

DF was amazing and unique for its time cuz colony management sims just didnt exist as a genre yet, but now there's 1000 similar games on steam it doesnt do much to really stand out beyond "its big".

>>715498487 (OP)
It's a fun simulator, but it's not worth the Sims 4 DLC treatment

>>715498854
Probably the people that get paid by the post

how are you meant to get the thousands of chemfuel for space stuff outside of abusing the flesh heart thing?

>>715498487 (OP)
>HURR WHY NO ELVES IN MY SPACE GAME
hundreds of mods that add this
>play DF? No, that's too hard.
Agreed, it also looks like shit in comparison and is losing depth to Rimworld's DLC's fast
You can enjoy both and not be a faggot

The majority of people are stupid. That's why it's more popular than DF.
Just look at the ugly art style. Holy fuck.
Oh and it costs $140 LMAO

>DF is too hard
I learned on the free version using the LazyNewbPack and captnduck's tutorials.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0sBhCMFBvPlF7wG7OH-NFQKMeCQiS8aM

The Steam version is superior, but I don't know of any new tutorials that are as comfy as captnduck's. (maybe it's just nostalgia for me)
I would suggest the Ic0n Gaming tutorials for Steam version.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkHfUAaH9nIfzFIBtIL8vIIT4sRK0oFjC

Creatures with legendary climbing skill can climb smooth walls. Learn to build unclimbable walls.
Cage traps are OP. Learn how to build and use them.
You can change the "pause on notification" settings so the game pauses, for example, when your miners discover a cavern.
DFHack is on Steam and updates ~15minutes after every DF patch. It adds some great QOL to the game.

>>715498487 (OP)
>
I have the same problem OP.

I love Rimworld, but I hate sci fi, god I wish there was a fantasy dlc or something.

mods help but still.

>>715504921
>>715498487 (OP)
Oh and be careful with diagonals. Things can pass through gaps like this:
[_][X]
[X][_]
Things will pass through the crack in a diagonal.
I think the most confusing thing is learning to channel and how floors/stairs work.
I guarantee you'll mess up building stairs at least once.
People who think Rimjob is better don't know half the mechanics of DF because they gave up, or never bothered to learn.
I've played a lot of colony sims and DF is the best one.
Rimworld is one of the worst ones.
I would rather play Going Medieval than Rimworld.
Maybe 1% of Rimjob enjoyers even know what that game is.
Rimjob is babby's first colony sim.

>>715504921
ugly ass spreadsheet simulator,

Ill stick to an actual game with animation like Rimworld

>>715501636
>Sims 4 DLC treatment
they release one DLC every 18 months, Sims 4 already got two this year alone

>>715505404
You think the lazy flash animation is better than sprites? Yikes! Shit taste!

>>715505378
>discover what bugs are in the game ny playing till your save is barely functional.
>figure out what you need to disable to make the game playable long term. (Or avoid doing)
>see if it was fixed in latest patch (it wasnt)
>see what else is broken now

Needing to follow a guide to avoid FPS death, infinite cavern dwellers, or whatever other stupid shit is bricking my games when they just start getting interesting isnt fun.

DF has taken so long to come about that this cycle of problems is permanent, and the devs are going to die of old age before its done and fixed.

>>715505378
>all that slop and perma early access games
DFtard has no taste, news at 11

>>715505669
DF sprites are ultra good. Sad there is no gameplay

>>715505669
these are still images that do nothing, and dont even smoothly move,

unplayable.

>>715505378
Do you know any way to make DF proper dificult? Like dwarves need more food, digging takes longer, skilling takes longer, neuter the migrant spam?
Ive played the game on and off for 20 years and once you understand the mechanics its painfully easy to do everything

>>715505913
Flash animation motion tweening is the worst vidya art style. Incredibly ugly.
>>715505793
I'm a far more knowledgeable colony simmer. I know far more than you do. Rimworld is one of the worst ones and by far the most expensive.

>>715506018
>been playing since 2005
>doesn't know anything about the game
bait

Aren't Highmates space elves?

Any anon want to tell me how good the Z-level mods are nowadays? I haven't played since beta 18.

>>715506043
hey brain dead retard. DWARF FORTRESS DOESNT HAVE ANY ANIMATION

THATS THE POINT

NOT THE LACK OF SPRITES

THE LACK OF ANY FUCKING MOVEMENT AT ALL

ITS NOT A VIDEO GAME

ITS A SPREADSHEET SLIDE SHOW

KILL YOURSELF

>>715506884
>KILL YOURSELF
Yikes. No wonder you play flash animation games that cost $140. Rimworld is ugly as fuck and lazy. Sorry you are so triggered by your shit taste.

We already have a Rimworld thread. >>715488838 Your dumbass opinion didn't warrant its own.

>>715506835
Anomaly added Z levels for a couple of events, and this gave modders the framework for proper Z levels.

>>715504921
>The majority of people are stupid. That's why it's more popular than DF.
>Just look at the ugly art style. Holy fuck.
>Oh and it costs $140 LMAO
>
>>DF is too hard
>I learned on the free version using the LazyNewbPack and captnduck's tutorials.
>https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0sBhCMFBvPlF7wG7OH-NFQKMeCQiS8aM
>
>The Steam version is superior, but I don't know of any new tutorials that are as comfy as captnduck's. (maybe it's just nostalgia for me)
>I would suggest the Ic0n Gaming tutorials for Steam version.
>https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkHfUAaH9nIfzFIBtIL8vIIT4sRK0oFjC
>
>Creatures with legendary climbing skill can climb smooth walls. Learn to build unclimbable walls.
>Cage traps are OP. Learn how to build and use them.
>You can change the "pause on notification" settings so the game pauses, for example, when your miners discover a cavern.
>DFHack is on Steam and updates ~15minutes after every DF patch. It adds some great QOL to the game.
>>715505378
>>>715504921
>>>715498487 (OP)(OP)
>Oh and be careful with diagonals. Things can pass through gaps like this:
>[_][X]
>[X][_]
>Things will pass through the crack in a diagonal.
>I think the most confusing thing is learning to channel and how floors/stairs work.
>I guarantee you'll mess up building stairs at least once.
>People who think Rimjob is better don't know half the mechanics of DF because they gave up, or never bothered to learn.
>I've played a lot of colony sims and DF is the best one.
>Rimworld is one of the worst ones.
>I would rather play Going Medieval than Rimworld.
>Maybe 1% of Rimjob enjoyers even know what that game is.
>Rimjob is babby's first colony sim.

>>715498487 (OP)
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2888722722
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3028702598