Thread 715556489

why did graphics and performance peak in the 8th gen?

>>715556489 (OP)
Because you're 13

>>715556489 (OP)
Thats not how the 360 version looked in the slightest lmao

>>715556489 (OP)
>intentionally nitpicking by using a crappy game

>>715556489 (OP)
This has got to be the shittiest comparison I've ever seen.
Who the fuck thinks nulara's crap looks good?

>>715556735
anon it literally says "image is pv ver"

>>715556859
rise of the tomb raider was one of the best looking games of 2015 lmao wtf are you on about?

>>715556798
>nitpicking
they are both aaa games

>>715557101
>Starts up Crysis 3 or Metro Redux on a period appropriate high end pc in you're path
>>715556489 (OP)
I think on pc the gap between now and 3ish years ago is bigger than late 2000s/early 2010s vs 3ish years ago.
Path tracing and ray reconstruction go hard (amd niggers and ultra-poorfags missing out)

>>715556489 (OP)
unreal engine 5 effect

Path tracing can make games actually look like the pre-render bullshots we used to shit on, because we knew they couldn't possibly be real. Now you can play them. Shame about how hard it is to run for most cards and shame that the graphics advancement has really slowed down compared to the 2000s.

>>715557608
path tracing is overrated, i only care about games possibly being developed faster, hopefully by 10 years time all cards on the market can handle path tracing just fine

>>715557608
>>715557779
why do games need to look so 'real'?

>>715557891
It's not about looking real. Path tracing can 1) speed up development because you don't have to bake 2) actually make the lighting look good in any situation. The appeal isn't the fact it just looks good in screenshots, it's the fact that you can explode anything on the screen and send shit flying everywhere or theoretically break down a wall in any way you want and the light will still look good. Of course this is just the ideal scenario, leave it to western devs to completely fuck it up and use it in a game with 0 physics lol.

>>715558110
see that sounds fine but most of these games have not even 1/10th the physics of crysis and far cry 2

>>715556658
what does this even mean

>>715557779
>about how hard it is to run for most cards
>>715557819
>hopefully by 10 years time all cards on the market can handle path tracing just fine
I mean it's working it's way down pretty fast considering the state of everything else. A "midrange" card (the 5070 at $550+) can do it competently at 1080p/kind of borderline good to go for 1440p.
>>715558180
RT and ai niggery will free up resources for devs to focus on cool things like that (hopefully)

>>715558180
sexo

>>715556489 (OP)
Top is literary a cinematic walking in a straight line while the other is an open world where you can climb buildings.

>>715558110
>leave it to western devs to completely fuck it up and use it in a game with 0 physics lol.
Zoom Dark Ages has decent physics. Not to the level of something like Red Faction but way more than other nuDooms.

>>715559084
omg i loved assassin's creed (2007)!

>>715556489 (OP)
SAAR DELETE THIS

>>715559712
kek
>>715559738
do better, ranjeet

>>715556489 (OP)
Incompetent devs that are no longer gen x but worthless millenials/zoomers that want to automate everything. I want to puke every time i boot up game with blurry TAA

>>715559084
You could compare it to Batman AK from 2015 or NFS 2015 and both would look better than that modern slop

>>715560456
>blurry TAA
Turn on DLSS/DLAA

>>715560539
Slightly less blurry trash made for brainlets like you. MSAA > Dogshit DLSS/DLAA/FSR/TAA

>>715560456
b-but anon, aren't you happy about the character having acne pimples now? or the 150039210 light sources?

>>715560618
>He hasn't bought a gpu in 10 years or fell for the Radeon meme
oh nonononono lol hahaha

>>715560618
>MSAA
that'd be -80% FPS please

>>715558110
>can 1) speed up development because you don't have to bake
Obviously this isn't true

>>715558527
>if only you knew how bad things really are

that ass tho

>>715561057
now put her in the classic outfit

>>715561007
>Obviously this isn't true
Well developers that have used RT/PT like Metro devs and Doom devs have openly talked about it massively speeding up environmental design, I'll take their word for it over yours.

>>715560936
>80fps
you need more?

>>715562072
>you need more?
I would like an antialiasing solution that actually does something to combat the aliasing, yes.

>>715562221
dlaa

>>715562401
DLAA is the least bad temporal mode but I'm not gonna play temporalslop, sorry.

>>715562483
do you just not play modern games then?

i like graphics
i made a raytracer and had a 1060 now i have a 5060 and it runs like 8 times faster

>>715562786
based

>>715556489 (OP)
>sovless
>sovl

>>715556489 (OP)
Competency crisis, millennials are not good professionals. Gen Z are worse. Everything will break down soon.

>>715556489 (OP)
no weak consoles to force devs to optimize their shit

Video for people who say path tracing is overrated/dogshit/whatever, because we all know you're only saying that because you can't (don't know that you can) use it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSq2WoARtyM

>>715565587
no, we just don't care enough

This 2017 game is much prettier than a lot of today games.

>>715566492
this, not even normies care about graphics anymore, who are these devs catering to atp?

>>715564008
this
games were "optimized" in previous gens because they were made for the xbox 360

>>715566792
consoleGODS...i kneel

>>715556489 (OP)
Gotham Knights came out like three years ago, and why wouldn't you compare that to Arkham Knight, which came out the same year as Rise of the Tomb Raider?

>>715566492
>pirate this game
>it actually sucks and looks bad
was pretty disappointed

>>715568025
well it did flop

>>715567632
No it didn-
>June 2015
What the fuck. I always thought it came out in 2018

whats even more impressive is rottr only took 2 years to develop, 2013-15

>>715568501
Even the botched 3rd game, also only took 3 years. Nowadays every single game needs like 5 years minimum to make a sequel. Shits fucked.

>>715568432
I just remember that because 2015 was my year of endless hype followed with crushing disappointment.

>Fuck yeah, Batman Arkham Knight!
>...oh...

>Fuck yeah, Jurassic World!
>...oh...

>Fuck yeah, Avengers Age of Ultron
>...oh...

>Fuck yeah, Mortal Kombat X!
>...oh...

>Fuck yeah, Metal Gear Solid V!
>...oh...

>Fuck yeah, Rise of the Tomb Raider!
>...oh...

>Fuck yeah, Halo 5
>...oh...

>Fuck yeah, Fallout 4!
>...oh...

And many more that I'm sure I'm forgetting. I think season one of Ash vs Evil Dead was that year too, but I actually liked that one, so I'm not counting it.

>>715568501
Scope bloat and the open world meme are major contributors.

>>715568668
You need 4 years to convince your 75% female staff to do something, a year for the 5 white male programmers to shit out an alpha and then a year to hire contractors from guatemala to try and finish the game after all the white guys walk out

>>715568810
and yet it's still better than today
>>715568859
wasnt rottr semi open world?

>>715568859
what scope? the sequels are like 95 percent the same as the last game

artstyle>
>>715565587
the game still sucks

>>715556489 (OP)
>shaders on lara face
why did they remove those in shadow?

>>715557779
path tracing won't be actually viable for another 15 years at least
>b-but muh fake frames and DLSS
you din't beat the game

>>715572952
amdrone cope

>>715556489 (OP)
Grafx has hit the wall, officially. The changes will be miniscule from here on out. But you'll still pay 1.500 buxx on the newest xx90 series gpu, right, goy? ;) won't disappoint daddy jensen, will you?

>>715558501
>5070
>Midrange
get real

>>715573656
The true midrange will always be the 60 variant.

>>715573513
sorry but im with lisa now
>>715573656
this

>>715573656
>>715573884
>>715573963
The xx70 cards have always been midrange

>>715574053
Nope

>>715557476
they're also both shitty games

>>715557779
Path tracing is fucking awesome, but there's so few games with it...