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Anonymous No.715561976 [Report] >>715563379 >>715564959 >>715565206 >>715565647 >>715565709 >>715568121 >>715573254 >>715577852 >>715578325 >>715578608 >>715578862 >>715581312 >>715581330 >>715584605 >>715584643 >>715584831 >>715585635 >>715598493 >>715602593 >>715611027 >>715611595 >>715617863
I hate playing as a Quirk Chungus/YA protagonist in my game that is supposed to be a semi serious crime drama, it's like if Sheldon Cooper were Columbo
Anonymous No.715562179 [Report] >>715565206 >>715598075 >>715611595 >>715613793
i fucking hate seeing this bitch ass faggot piss his eyes out with manchild juice
Anonymous No.715562970 [Report] >>715564119
>semi serious crime drama
Anonymous No.715563379 [Report]
>>715561976 (OP)
yakuza was always quirky and stupid but i don't like that this aspect bled into the gameplay so much, all the non-rpg games have a few silly haha funny heat actions but they were never the focus, just the occasional goof
i don't want yakuza fights to be full of retarded shit like a hobo dressed like a hawaiian dancer doing a stupid dance while woman girl fights some goon with a handbag before grabbing an ally's cock to heal him (get it? the joke is woman), that's just fucking lame
Anonymous No.715564119 [Report] >>715565732
>>715562970
do you know what "semi" implies?
Anonymous No.715564959 [Report]
>>715561976 (OP)
It's like the difference between Saints Row 2 and the later titles.
Anonymous No.715565206 [Report]
>>715561976 (OP)
>>715562179
Anonymous No.715565647 [Report]
>>715561976 (OP)
The second game had a secret society of body snatching Koreans
Anonymous No.715565709 [Report]
>>715561976 (OP)
>YA protagonist
>is in his 40s
Anonymous No.715565732 [Report] >>715566174 >>715566416 >>715572496 >>715578815
>>715564119
Please explain how a man who likes dragon quest is less serious than a man whose entire clan is focused on acting like an infant to be coddle by women.
Anonymous No.715565805 [Report] >>715566084 >>715566236 >>715566646
Yes RGG has become too reddit for my taste. Rubber bullets was stupid and the big castle showing up for no reason was silly but acting like that defined the tone of the main story in the series is dishonest.
Anonymous No.715566084 [Report] >>715567375 >>715576557 >>715577305 >>715578519 >>715589738 >>715616334 >>715624836
>>715565805
Anonymous No.715566174 [Report]
>>715565732
Both are one off joke substories but in one of the games the jokes never end
Anonymous No.715566236 [Report]
>>715565805
Reddit isn't an adjective
Anonymous No.715566257 [Report]
everything post-6 is not canon and is part of an entirely different series
yakuza is yakuza
like a dragon is not yakuza
Anonymous No.715566416 [Report] >>715571215
>>715565732
I've always been confused at how Sega was so self-conscious of their own RPG series that they couldn't make Kasuga a fan of Phantasy Star
Anonymous No.715566646 [Report] >>715566862 >>715578798
>>715565805
That big castle showing up comes with the implication that a Yakuza patriarch somehow managed to acquire and remodel a national monument for the purpose of his own personal base. Given how seriously Japan reveres it's history, there's absolutely nothing in the series as nonsensically impossible as the golden Osaka castle.
Anonymous No.715566862 [Report] >>715567009
>>715566646
But it's ultimately not important to the story at all
Anonymous No.715567009 [Report] >>715567403
>>715566862
Nigger it's a whole-ass level.
Anonymous No.715567375 [Report] >>715568082
>>715566084
I don't know any of those ppl except for Yong Yea because of /v/
Anonymous No.715567403 [Report] >>715567820
>>715567009
it's just a different setting for fights, it has nothing to do with the plot
Anonymous No.715567820 [Report] >>715568003
>>715567403
Are you forgetting that Sengoku was a major antagonist and the guy who ordered the stabbing on Kiryu and kidnapped Haruka? Did you even play 2?
Anonymous No.715568003 [Report] >>715568657
>>715567820
and the castle has what to do with any of that?
Anonymous No.715568082 [Report]
>>715567375
you mean ying yong
Anonymous No.715568121 [Report] >>715568889 >>715585717 >>715611470
>>715561976 (OP)
>shonen protag the new face of a seinen series
i miss chigyu man
Anonymous No.715568596 [Report] >>715575223
The ending of Infinite Wealth was the best ending in the series and I'm tired of acting like it's not just because we hate Ichiban.
Anonymous No.715568657 [Report] >>715568819
>>715568003
IT'S HIS FUCKING HOUSE
IT'S LITERALLY WHERE YOU GO TO STOP ONE OF THE MAIN VILLAINS
Anonymous No.715568819 [Report] >>715569908
>>715568657
Yes it's a building they used as a setting for some fights. Nothing to do with the plot and nothing like the modern reddit games in the franchise.
Anonymous No.715568889 [Report] >>715570447
>>715568121
Shonen and Seinen don't mean what you think they do.

They aren't styles, tones, or genres, they simply refer to target audience
Anonymous No.715569908 [Report] >>715570116
>>715568819
HOW THE FUCK ISN'T IT PLOT?
ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNxAH2iZqKU
I would say a location where the story dynamic changes is pretty fucking plot relevant.
Anonymous No.715570116 [Report] >>715571054 >>715572887
>>715569908
because it could have been any other location without making any difference to the story, it's just there to look cool you fucking autistic retard
Anonymous No.715570447 [Report]
>>715568889
>They aren't styles, tones, or genres, they simply refer to target audience
but that target audience implies a certain style, tone, or genre
Anonymous No.715571054 [Report]
>>715570116
But it is the location, it's where the plot takes Kiryu. And the fact that it's so completely wild and out of the blue is what make it more ridiculous than anything else in the series.
Anonymous No.715571149 [Report]
Ichiban is one of the only good parts of nuYakuza
Anonymous No.715571215 [Report]
>>715566416
if he had been a Phantasy Star fan, the game would've ended by suicide the second he saw what happened to it with New Genesis
Anonymous No.715572496 [Report] >>715574425
>>715565732
One is the protagonist and one is a random NPC you dishonest piece of shit
Anonymous No.715572887 [Report] >>715573072
>>715570116
He's right and you're wrong you dumb fuck. Stop autistically arguing when you know you're wrong. There's never going to be anything even remotely as retarded as Osaka Castle that splits in half. Maybe you don't realize how big the castle is, or that it's smack in the middle of Osaka, like 5 minute walk from the station. It's like if the Eiffel Tower split in half, it's absurd
Anonymous No.715573072 [Report] >>715577040
>>715572887
ok fine you're right, having a vtuber as a crucial part of the story would have fit perfectly in the old Yakuza games
Anonymous No.715573254 [Report] >>715573514
>>715561976 (OP)
>YA
Ichiban is 50 years old. He is not a young adult. Also, as far as quirk chunguses go, Ichiban is one of the least terrible of them. You could have picked far more reddit example than him to post about.
Anonymous No.715573514 [Report] >>715573864
>>715573254
>Ichiban is one of the least terrible of them
Except for the whole sympathizing with every villain thing he does. How many people died at this point because Ichi trusts villains, even recruits them into the goddamn party.
Anonymous No.715573864 [Report] >>715574221
>>715573514
7, 8, and Pirate all had a party member betray you and then the main character forgave them right away and then everyone moves on like nothing happened. I guess the writers really like doing that same plotline.
Anonymous No.715573934 [Report] >>715574323 >>715575443 >>715576140 >>715576721 >>715577156 >>715577693 >>715578950 >>715584605
pitch a Saejima solo game
Anonymous No.715574221 [Report]
>>715573864
I like when Chitose says she stole your shit for money early on and Ichi says well that's fine then. Dude every thief steals things for money, that's not even an excuse, that's just what thieving is
Anonymous No.715574323 [Report] >>715574775
>>715573934
He escapes prison but before that you walk around tiny areas and watch 10 hours of cinematic prison conversations. And then he rapes a child in the end
Anonymous No.715574425 [Report] >>715574589
>>715572496
How does that change anything? Is it semi-serious or not? It's still a part of the game sold to you.
Anonymous No.715574589 [Report] >>715576472
>>715574425
Are you asking me what the difference between a character you control 100% of the game and an NPC in an optional quest is? Because that would be a really retarded question
Anonymous No.715574775 [Report]
>>715574323
Haruka consented
Anonymous No.715575223 [Report] >>715577820
>>715568596
The Ichiban part of the ending taints him as a character. There's no reason for him to be so forgiving to fake wheelchair boy. It's a total flanderization of him trying to get his step-brother to get on the path toward redemption from the last game.
Similarly, Kiryu's confrontation with his final boss isn't built up at all, and ends up completely mogged by the Shishido fight from Gaiden.
Anonymous No.715575419 [Report]
I don't care about what is actually going on in Japan right now they need to go back to actual yakuza crime stories and not cults or secret spy agencies.
Anonymous No.715575443 [Report]
>>715573934
An entire game in prison, with forced hallucinations of a real town.
Anonymous No.715575826 [Report]
Your boobs ... are so big ... I want to cry!
Anonymous No.715576140 [Report]
>>715573934
Get thrown into prison ala arkham city
Anonymous No.715576472 [Report] >>715625318
>>715574589
Yes, because it doesn't matter whether you play as them or not, it's still content provided within the game. To take it to a higher degree Kasuga's personality is heavily diluted within the entirety of the game. Gondowara is heavily concentrated within the game. So obviously the concentrated aspects stick out more and leave more of an impression, just accept your crime drama was always silly, and get over it.
Anonymous No.715576557 [Report] >>715577928
>>715566084
Fuck this gook. He can't act for shit and his voice is gay.
Anonymous No.715576721 [Report]
>>715573934
A what if game where he rapes Haruka during that one scene.
Anonymous No.715577040 [Report] >>715577117 >>715609162
>>715573072
>having a vtuber as a crucial part of the story would have fit perfectly in the old Yakuza games
The v-tuber is a heat action. She's not actually in the game. Classic /v/ having opinions on games they don't play.
Anonymous No.715577117 [Report] >>715577305
>>715577040
Doesn't Majima Gaiden have an entire vtuber substory
Anonymous No.715577156 [Report]
>>715573934
he trips and falls on his face and gets a concussion and you play as literally anyone else instead because holy shit i hate playing as him
Anonymous No.715577305 [Report] >>715609162
>>715577117
I haven't played that one. I thought they were talking about the one in Ishin. >>715566084
Anonymous No.715577590 [Report]
You say this as if Columbo isn't a quirky chungus for boomers.
Anonymous No.715577602 [Report] >>715577770
You'd have a point if it weren't half the point of ichiban's character that he's a schizophrenic retard
Anonymous No.715577693 [Report]
>>715573934
The hunting game but more of it
Anonymous No.715577770 [Report] >>715577870 >>715577924
>>715577602
Why do people always say he's a schizo but say Majima is just playing a character and acting?
Anonymous No.715577820 [Report] >>715578648 >>715602869 >>715612315
>>715575223
Shishido fight was not mind blowing. He felt like a sub boss that did a betrayal and got a final fight fitting for a real shirtless brawl that was reserved for a real final boss that never showed up so they let him have it
Anonymous No.715577852 [Report]
>>715561976 (OP)
>implying Columbo isn't already redditcore
Anonymous No.715577870 [Report]
>>715577770
because Majima frequently drops the act and 0 retcons him to be a normal non retard in order to have a story
Anonymous No.715577924 [Report]
>>715577770
Majima is just fucking around and trolling half the time and coping with depression the other 50% but isn't out of touch with reality the way ichiban does. If not for gameplay purposes, i would venture to say kiryu, majima, etc wouldn't see sujimon over regular thugs
Anonymous No.715577928 [Report]
>>715576557
The director was clearly satisfied with his performance since they gave the role to him
Anonymous No.715578145 [Report] >>715578279
serious rgg games soon, trust the plan!
Anonymous No.715578279 [Report]
>>715578145
Manko Daito
Anonymous No.715578325 [Report]
>>715561976 (OP)
You absolute faggots are going to run this into the ground until we get the most boring characters imaginable. Fuck you.
Anonymous No.715578519 [Report]
>>715566084
This chink venezuelan is grossly miscast. He normally has a super nasally voice so he has to contort his throat to sound "manly," whereas Daryll could do it effortlessly.
Anonymous No.715578608 [Report] >>715578852 >>715578948
>>715561976 (OP)
like a dragon was an enjoyable enough change of pace but infinite wealth was unmitigated shit. I really want to know who thought it was a good idea to have Ichiban spill all his spaghetti to start the game and then get emotionally brow beaten by all his "friends". they spent an entire game going over how socially awkward he is and yet they all seemed to forget about his personality in between games.
Anonymous No.715578648 [Report] >>715584664
>>715577820
Shishido was a role reversal of the typical Yakuza final boss. YOU are the final boss. Shishido is much closer to a typical Yakuza protagonist in that moment. He's the scrappy lone man fighting to protect what he sees as the future of the Yakuza way, and you're a glownigger with shady government ties shutting everything down.
Anonymous No.715578798 [Report] >>715587574
>>715566646
holy fuck I need a jumpscare warning on that GIF
Anonymous No.715578815 [Report]
>>715565732
Play the games before you say stupid shit like this.
Anonymous No.715578852 [Report]
>>715578608
The only way to win after you declare your feelings for a woman is to then harrass her and make her feel uncomfortable
Anonymous No.715578862 [Report]
>>715561976 (OP)
I think they gave up on the semi serious years ago anon.
Anonymous No.715578948 [Report] >>715584831
>>715578608
Who cares about that shit, Infinite Wealth sucked because 1. it was pure Kiryuwank 2.anything involving BRAIZU was garbage 3. Forgiving Tomizawa was retarded
Moose !!Tm8/4MnbTW4 No.715578950 [Report]
>>715573934
He's put into prison again for something that was undisclosed by Daigo for another 10 years. When he gets out Majima is missing and it's your job to find out what happened. Nothing happened, Majima was just fishing with Daigo.
Anonymous No.715581312 [Report]
>>715561976 (OP)
me too
Anonymous No.715581330 [Report]
>>715561976 (OP)
awful
Anonymous No.715581476 [Report] >>715582205
Every Yakuza is like this and it makes the games unplayable.
Anonymous No.715582205 [Report]
>>715581476
I disagree. Kiryu always plays straight man to any wacky events surrounding him. Even Majima, while a quirkster at first glance, usually plays it down when put in the protag's role and you get to see his much more sensible internal monologue. Ichiban however is just way too goofy to ever take seriously, the dude has the mind of a shonen protagonist.
Anonymous No.715584605 [Report]
>>715561976 (OP)
I get the sentiment but it works really well during the most miserable parts of his games. It only annoys me with substories really.

>>715573934
Gets put in gigaprison and the entire game is set there. It'd be pretty awesome.
Anonymous No.715584643 [Report]
>>715561976 (OP)
>He's playing Redditkuza games post 6
Your fault.
Anonymous No.715584664 [Report]
>>715578648
>YOU are the final boss
Every time these words are uttered it's the most reddit thing ever. Shut the fuck up.
Anonymous No.715584831 [Report] >>715585070
>>715561976 (OP)
>>715578948
The main problem with Ichiban games is the old cast existing simultaneously and "little brothering" the new cast depriving them of their entire personality and making them exist to only wank the old cast.
Casts should be kept mostly separate from each other, like Judgment.
Anonymous No.715585070 [Report]
>>715584831
>The main problem with Ichiban games is the old cast existing simultaneously and "little brothering" the new cast depriving them of their entire personality and making them exist to only wank the old cast.
It's the same issue series like Resident Evil face, where both the company and the fans don't have enough faith in the new protagonists, so the old protagonists get involved in some way, which takes away from the new protagonist.
Anonymous No.715585223 [Report] >>715587753
Ichiban is cool, it's just that his games still have the shadow of Kiryu hanging over him
Anonymous No.715585458 [Report]
They need to cull at least half of the cast right now. There are way too many nearly identical characters.
Anonymous No.715585635 [Report]
>>715561976 (OP)
Very wholesome
Anonymous No.715585717 [Report]
>>715568121
>before pussy
>after pussy
Anonymous No.715587574 [Report]
>>715578798
Kiryu-Channnnnnn!
Anonymous No.715587753 [Report] >>715589392
>>715585223
>Ichiban is cool, it's just that his games still have the shadow of Kiryu hanging over him

I wish the Kiryu fight in 7 was real instead of just a plot device to setup the dumb dragon cutscene. It should have played out with Kiryu having the same max health bar that he has at the end of Gaiden, and Ichiban having to grind it down in Freelancer mode only until Kiryu is impressed enough with Ichiban's endurance. The silly setup before the dragon cutscene isn't consistent with the fact that Kiryu can get his own ass kicked in any of his games just the same that Ichiban can.
Moose !!Tm8/4MnbTW4 No.715589392 [Report] >>715589941 >>715595196
>>715587753
The point of the Kiryu fight is to show you that Ichiban and his crew are so out of his league it's not even funny and it's simply a test for Ichiban to cool him down. Ichiban didn't even scratch Kiryu while the rest of the team watched the fight. It's the exact same reason why during the Majima and Saejima fight they aren't even wounded but simply out of breath and admitting they weren't even trying while the rest of the cast can barely stand and look like they've been beaten to a pulp.

It's basically to beat it into your skull and Ichiban and his crew are not going to be dealing with the same level of fights or stakes as Kiryu and his friends had to deal with. Akiyama on his own could probably solo all of Ichiban's crew. Hell, Shinada probably could. Watch Shishido be the final boss of 9 and the entire crew struggles immensely just to beat him alone and they end up winning on ideological grounds instead.

Everyone they've fought as final bosses so far could be reasonably considered random coliseum mobs even Shinada can beat, and in the case of Kiryu's side he and his crew took on all three Jimas and Ebina while he was basically on death's door, that's how broken Kiryu specifically is. Nanba, Seonhee, Zhao, and Saeko are just minor buffs to keep him powering through via the Power of Friendship™. Tatsuya fought harder opponents than anyone Ichiban has and he had even less experience than Ichiban had.
Anonymous No.715589632 [Report] >>715589970
This is why Judgment is better
Anonymous No.715589738 [Report]
>>715566084
Amazes me how much Kenny Omega tries so hard to be the hip video game guy but no one gave the slightest shit about him to care.
Makes you feel bad for the guy.
Anonymous No.715589941 [Report] >>715589996
>>715589392
>Watch Shishido be the final boss of 9 and the entire crew struggles immensely just to beat him alone
Yet that fight is still going to be a shirtless fistfight in the penthouse of the Millinieum Tower. And that still doesn't change the fact that Kiryu can get himself killed by street thugs all the same in any of his games. In fact, why even have the Ichiban franchise anyway? Sajiema could easily have starred in a Yakuza 7 built around brawling against enemies just as strong as anyone Kazuma fights.
Anonymous No.715589970 [Report] >>715590336
>>715589632
Yagami literally lets the main antagonist of Lost Judgment go free, even if it ends up working out luckily. At least Ichiban brought Eiji to jail, at the end of 8.
Moose !!Tm8/4MnbTW4 No.715589996 [Report] >>715590210
>>715589941
>that still doesn't change the fact that Kiryu can get himself killed by street thugs all the same in any of his games.
Sure, but in terms of the groups of enemies him and his friends are fighting with, the skill quality of these people, and the ferocity of them is far above anything Ichiban and his crew have ever had to deal with. No one has come even close outside of maybe the Barracudas.
Anonymous No.715590210 [Report] >>715590336
>>715589996
>Kasuga spends most of his career beating Omi thugs in man to man fist fights
>Ichiban spends most of 7 beating Omi thugs as well as Tojo thugs that the Omi Alliance absorbed in man to man fist fights.
Going beyond this is literally just adding more and more Super Saiyan levels past SS2 SS3 SS4 etc etc, exactly how everyone mocks the silly power scaling and meme characters and meme strength levels in modern Dragon Ball.
Moose !!Tm8/4MnbTW4 No.715590336 [Report] >>715590692 >>715592081
>>715589970
Yagami couldn't bring Kuwana to jail, that's the entire point. He had no evidence against him, all the dead bodies have the fingerprints of his students, his students have all the blame laid on them due to his machinations, and his murders have no ties to him whatsoever. Unless Kusumoto or Ehara would specifically testify against him (They won't) there is nothing to stop him. The whole point is that Yagami would have to kidnap or murder Kuwana if he wanted to stop his killing spree which would go against Yagami's morals and belief in the word of law.

The whole theme of the game is that the rule of law is flawed and lets a lot of things slip through the cracks or under-punishes people for their severity due to circumstances like them being children. It's questioning if Kuwana's vigilantism is righteous or not despite him killing people and willing to let innocents die to get justice for others.

>>715590210
Ichiban is beating them with five other people at the same time and still struggling. He can barely even handle two people in the first chapter on his own and requires five other people helping him just to take on basically low rung Omi and Tojo Clan members. Tendo is the only one pushed as being strong at all and his strength is equivalent to people Kiryu or Majima beat to get basic information in 1, 2, 3, and 0. GBH could be argued to be stronger than him.
Anonymous No.715590692 [Report] >>715591573
>>715590336
You know what, that's fair. It's been a while, since I played LJ. My point was more that people complain that Ichiban is too forgiving or too much of a saint, when the same could be applied to Yagami, as of right now, at least to some extent. And I say that as someone who likes them both, and don't mind it.
Moose !!Tm8/4MnbTW4 No.715591573 [Report] >>715591869 >>715591936
>>715590692
It couldn't really be applied to Yagami at all. He wanted to take Kuwana in but couldn't legally. He breaks the law all the time and beats people extrajudicially to get information and even steals stuff from crime scenes.

People say Ichiban is basically Yakuza Jesus because he is. In 7 him forgiving Masato after literal years of abuse is excusable because he saw him as a brother and didn't want to give up on him because he knew he was a good person underneath which was proven in the end after in-game months of trying to get through to him.

In 8 he has zero reason to forgive or help Eiji. The man from the moment he met Ichiban was lying to him, spying on him, made Chitose befriend him to spy on him, personally sent hitmen to kill him and his friends multiple times at that point, tried killing a child multiple times, kidnapped said child multiple times, tied her to a wheelchair, and then threw her down with a bomb at Ichiban and his friends laughing while he did so (Even if it was a fake), tried poisoning them not once but twice, personally caused the deaths of both Hanawa and Wong Tou, and actively tried killing and ruining Kiryu's life multiple times on top of it all. He's the reason why Kiryu was outed as being alive officially again.

He does not deserve mercy in any way yet Ichiban hunts him down after the end of 8, forgives him, and then walks him like he's carrying a cross to the police station while people throw crap at him and then promises him he can call Ichiban any time he wants.
Anonymous No.715591869 [Report] >>715592272
>>715591573
>walks him like he's carrying a cross to the police station

Because him doing up to life in prison for terrorism charges isn't justice? Rather than offing him personally, Ichiban lets the police book the villain. If anything, Eiji is merely politically fortunate that Hawaii is a non death penalty state. Would you rather have Ichiban beat him to death to ensure Eiji never relapses back into villainy?
Anonymous No.715591936 [Report] >>715592272
>>715591573
A big theme of 8 is "breaking the cycle/loop," and that is "hate, revenge, etc," which drives Ebina and Eiji, which they want to enact onto people who now want to go clean. You're right that Eiji probably doesn't deserve it, but Ichiban on his end is just trying to end that cycle. Because if someone doesn't do it, when does it end?
Anonymous No.715592081 [Report]
>>715590336
>Ichiban is beating them with five other people at the same time and still struggling.
5v1, that's 1 punch per 5. Of course he'll struggle, that turn brained broom head.
Moose !!Tm8/4MnbTW4 No.715592272 [Report] >>715592525 >>715592558
>>715591869
No, I'd rather Ebina have shot him or him to have been killed by Buraisu for his repeated failures in meeting their objectives since he went from delivering Lani to Dwight, failed at actually seeing it through, and then disappeared after Chitose's stream despite being said to have been meeting up with Bryce if I remember right. Bryce is the most lenient mob boss I've ever seen and let Eiji get away with an absurd amount of failures in major parts of his plan.

Ichiban specifically seeking him out and sweet talking him felt like an insult after dozens of hours of torture by him. Yes, he turned himself in, but Ichiban could have simply dragged him in if he wanted without all this forgiveness stuff he does not deserve specifically from Ichiban. Ichiban has zero reason at all to do so to Eiji after all the death and misery he caused and Eiji turning over a new leaf feels unearned in its entirety. It's deeply unsatisfying.

>>715591936
The problem is that they chose the worst way to go about it. Eiji is undeserving of forgiveness by Ichiban specifically. It's unearned. Outside of his "Aloha" thing and eating a tuna sandwich with Ichiban literally everything was a lie including turning him to Akane's house.
Anonymous No.715592525 [Report] >>715592685
>>715592272
It is something they could have handled better. Like more scenes between them in general, could have setup that scene at the end better. I guess if 8 ever gets a Director's Cut, it is something they can address.
Anonymous No.715592558 [Report] >>715593471
>>715592272
>Ichiban has zero reason at all to do so to Eiji after all the death and misery he caused

Because Ichiban is not a vengeful person. Even in 7 with the thug torture scene that Kiryu takes exception to, Ichiban is rightly incensed that he is literally fighting the Omi invasion of Yokohama in open war and he is personally fighting through a literal zerg rush of Omi scum. His competely logical qoute is, exactly, "This city has become a warzone and I'm still having to punch my way through all these useless grunts."

When Kasuga reaches Eiji, the fight is over and Ichi has won. He can use Talk No Jutsu at that point. He's not fighting a war anymore, that's the point. But Ichiban could have kept punching his way through everyone, grunt, gang chairman, or supervillain all alike, just like Kiryu did in every game before 6.
Anonymous No.715592685 [Report]
>>715592525
>if 8 ever gets a Director's Cut

8 should have just never existed. Ichiban had closure as a character at the end of 7 when he said he was happy to have 2 fathers, his foster parent and Arakawa. And Kiryu was perfectly resolved by disappearing at the ends of 6 and Gaiden.
Moose !!Tm8/4MnbTW4 No.715593471 [Report]
>>715592558
>Because Ichiban is not a vengeful person
It doesn't matter if he's vengeful or not, the fact of the matter is that everything Eiji did was out of malice towards Ichiban and actively killed multiple people he was decently close to or helping in addition to Eiji actively relishing in murder and trying to murder him and his friends while laughing at Ichiban about the fact they were going to die. Ichiban has no reason to be kind to him in the way he was at the end of 8 and simply taking him in would have been a far better way to do it rather than having him forgive Eiji and then walk him out there. It makes Ichiban come off as the most naive person alive who allows someone to backstab him continuously and there's no way you can possibly make Ichiban mad at you. He does Jesus-levels of forgiveness to Eiji and it's just not believable in the slightest, especially after he just forgave Masato in 7. It leaves a bad taste in your mouth that he's doing such a thing.

Even if we ignore that, he absolutely should have been killed by either Ebina or Bryce. It makes zero sense how he not only got away from them but was farting around in various apartments in hiding in Japan and Ichiban could track them down before Bryce or Ebina's goons could in the period between leaving Hawaii and both of them going down.
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Anonymous No.715595196 [Report] >>715595823 >>715603275
>>715589392
>The point of the Kiryu fight is to show you that Ichiban and his crew are so out of his league it's not even funny
>Everyone they've fought as final bosses so far could be reasonably considered random coliseum mobs even Shinada can beat,
That's fucking retarded lmao. That's what I meant by 'little brothering" the new cast. What a fucking cancer to pander to obese manchildren like you.
Moose !!Tm8/4MnbTW4 No.715595823 [Report]
>>715595196
>That's fucking retarded lmao.
That's how the games presented it multiple times. Even in 8 Ichiban constantly needs his entire crew to deal with basic things like random gang members while Kiryu only needs party members because he's literally dying and getting older at the same time. Even then he beats multiple people way out of his league who are completely healthy unlike Ichiban who is constantly struggling against American Majima and his merry band of misfits.

The entire Amon speech in 7 is to tell you that Ichiban is his own person and doesn't need to be compared to Kiryu or his standards. They've already established Ichiban will never match up to Kiryu nor should he have to and that's the whole point because he's his own person with his own strengths and weaknesses.
Anonymous No.715597267 [Report] >>715603976
Yes, Ichiban is stupid and annoying
Anonymous No.715598075 [Report]
>>715562179
Keep seething faggot lmao
Anonymous No.715598493 [Report] >>715603013
>>715561976 (OP)
I am playing Yak 7 and I didn't play any others. Ichiban is one of rhe weaker characters and a bit quirk chungus but I just fought Goro and he was mega quirk chungus though fun since he was actually hard. Point being, check your privilege.
Anonymous No.715601121 [Report]
Shirakaba Gaiden WHEN?
Anonymous No.715602593 [Report]
>>715561976 (OP)
Anonymous No.715602869 [Report]
>>715577820
It was perfect because it captured the bottled up feelings of all the Yakuza fans. We didn't want Tojo clan to die and he fought on our side, to defend what we believe in. He had to lose of course, but he did so honorably.
Disney should've had a guy like this for nu Star Wars, a guy who represents the disgruntled fans and who fights for them against the nuSW heroes. But of course if they did it they would shit on the guy and make him pathetic because they just can't help themselves
Anonymous No.715603013 [Report] >>715605967
>>715598493
People who hate Ichi hate Majima too though. In 0 he's completely unquirky and plays it straight but in every other game he's an annoying quirky fag
Anonymous No.715603142 [Report] >>715621214
They will never be in a game again will they
Anonymous No.715603275 [Report] >>715608763
>>715595196
>'little brothering" the new cast
Have you SEEN the new cast? Why would a random hobo guy be as strong as veteran yakuzas and detectives? Nu-yakuza is a story about weak people, it's just what it is on the most basic level. You can't make them strong, it just wouldn't work.
Anonymous No.715603976 [Report] >>715606089
>>715597267
he's a gay ass sissy faggot who cries his eyes out at every single hardship. absolute pussy.
have no idea why they thought he would become the new mainstay protagonist.
Anonymous No.715605967 [Report]
>>715603013
He's completely serious in 4 and 5 too. Ironically he's at his zaniest in the earlier games (and Kiwami 1 solely for Majima everywhere) while later games gave him a lot more depth. And before you even mention the pirate game, while it seems ridiculous conceptually, it's played as basically purgatory on international waters and Majima actually plays the straight man more than you'd expect as the fish out of water protagonist.
Anonymous No.715606089 [Report] >>715608829 >>715609359
>>715603976
And yet here you are still crying over Ichiban. Projecting much? His games sell better than beat em ups ever did. He’s not going anywhere.
Anonymous No.715608763 [Report] >>715609017
>>715603275
>veteran yakuzas and detectives
Veterans like Han or detectives like Adachi?
Anonymous No.715608829 [Report] >>715609264
>>715606089
>His games sell better than beat em ups ever did
That's because 7 was the first AAA yakuza release and you know it. Even Yakuza 6 was still a AA franchise when it came out.
Anonymous No.715609017 [Report] >>715609257
>>715608763
Adachi is a burnt out alcoholic, he's not on the level of active detectives doing field work like Yagami and Tanimura. But then you already know that so why did you post that
>Han
Guest roster, main party are the 4 losers + 2 new losers in 8 and a half-dead ojisan.
Anonymous No.715609162 [Report] >>715609363
>>715577305
>>715577040
>The v-tuber is a heat action. She's not actually in the game
No, they made a v-tuber the part of the main plot in Infinite Wealth.
Anonymous No.715609257 [Report]
>>715609017
Adachi is as fucking built as Saejima is.
Anonymous No.715609264 [Report] >>715609318
>>715608829
Both 1 and 2 were AAA on PS2. What do you think AAA PS2 games looked like
Anonymous No.715609318 [Report] >>715609527
>>715609264
>What do you think AAA PS2 games looked like
Final Fantasy X, MGS 3
Anonymous No.715609359 [Report]
>>715606089
Retard. "His" games sell better because Yakuza began exponentially growing with fucking 0.
Anonymous No.715609363 [Report] >>715609457 >>715610480
>>715609162
This is an actual thing in Japan. Vtubers now do the news and even hold debates with politicians.
Yakuza has always been like a time capsule of the time it released (barring historical games like 0, Kenzen and Ishin)
Having vtubers be a part of the story in a game taking place in 2023/24 Japan isn't out of place at all. It'd be like bitching about all the real life 2010s idol culture in Yakuza 5.
Anonymous No.715609457 [Report] >>715609610 >>715609802
>>715609363
>It'd be like bitching about all the real life 2010s idol culture in Yakuza 5
Literally everybody who played 5 thought the Haruka chapter/plot was retarded.
Anonymous No.715609527 [Report] >>715610965
>>715609318
Those are linear games though. Yakuza 1-2 is more comparable to something like Okami which is also AAA.
Anonymous No.715609610 [Report]
>>715609457
Only fake weebs did, I loved it. It's like Idolmaster but with actual gameplay
Anonymous No.715609802 [Report]
>>715609457
5's plot is pants on head retarded regardless. In a lot of way's 5 and 8 are kindred spirits.
Peak gameplay and Yakuza shenanigans, but convoluted and nonsensical main plots and both way too fucking long.
Anonymous No.715610480 [Report]
>>715609363

> Vtubers now do the news and even hold debates with politicians

how horrifying
Moose !!Tm8/4MnbTW4 No.715610965 [Report] >>715611716
>>715609527
>Okami which is also AAA.
Huh? Where are you even getting that from? I just Googled about the budget and the best I got was Galaxy AI saying it was on a modest budget but with no sources so for all I know that's a hallucination. We also have zero clue on any of the budget for any Yakuza games, we can only assume what their budgets were and there is zero chance they were anything more than in between A and AA. Maybe 1 initially was because of it being a brand new IP and having to get the novelist for the story, but I'd find it hard to believe 2 was an AAA cost even with Sotenbori slapped onto it. They were making relatively low sales for years (At least, according to this graph which as far as I know is from Media Create's physical tracking) and still continuing despite that.
Anonymous No.715611027 [Report]
>>715561976 (OP)
Rewatch Ichiban's reactions to the games, friend. He is the straight man to how ridiculous the world in modern Yakuza is.
Anonymous No.715611113 [Report] >>715611289 >>715611319 >>715611358 >>715611759
>XXXY combo game
>all bosses have hyper armor and don't stagger
>tiger drop is your only real option and it's stupidly OP
Shit games honestly and I've beat them all
Anonymous No.715611289 [Report] >>715611889
>>715611113
>I've beat them all
Why would you keep playing something you hate?
Anonymous No.715611319 [Report]
>>715611113
>don't stagger
But they can stagger and stunlock you. Make sure to remember that part.
Anonymous No.715611358 [Report]
>>715611113
And this is why 7 and 8 are the best. So glad the series finally dropped that stupid beat-em-up premise and moved into a real genre.
Anonymous No.715611470 [Report]
>>715568121
This guy wants be Kiryuu so much.
Anonymous No.715611595 [Report]
>>715561976 (OP)
>>715562179
>w-waka! waka??? waka! wakaaaaa
Anonymous No.715611716 [Report] >>715612026 >>715612438
>>715610965
>Where are you even getting that from?
Common sense? it's was one of the biggest Capcom games at the time. If Okami isn't AAA, neither are most Capcom games from that era.
According to you there's like 10 AAA games in the entire PS2 gen, ranging all the way from RE4 to MGS3.
AA on PS2 is something like the Berserk game, or Battle Stadium DON, or Narutimate Hero, or the GANTZ game, or Gungrave, or Katamari. Those are on the cheap side, and there was a shitload of those AA games, mostly based on anime. It's not flipping Yakuza, Okami, Onimusha, Tenchu, Soul Calibur and whatever else doesn't meet your modern criteria. Those were all AAA
Anonymous No.715611759 [Report] >>715611987
>>715611113
This. I've played 14 "different" games in this shit series now and that was enough for me. The Pirate one came out and I couldn't even muster an ounce of interest in it. Fuck this slop.
Anonymous No.715611889 [Report]
>>715611289
>Why would you keep playing something you hate?
why do pathetic triggered /v/pussies always strawman like this at any perceived sleight lmfao
he didn't say he hates it, get a grip, it's always for any slightly obscure series with disproportionate attachment from its manchild fanbase too
Anonymous No.715611987 [Report]
>>715611759
>The Pirate one
It's better than infinite wealth, I give them credit for that.
Anonymous No.715612026 [Report]
>>715611716
no new ip is AAA by definition
AAA is a shitty term for vidya, it's an investment term that means guaranteed returns, i.e. gta and cod
Anonymous No.715612315 [Report]
>>715577820
Y5 boss is worse than Gaiden.
Moose !!Tm8/4MnbTW4 No.715612438 [Report] >>715623835
>>715611716
>AA on PS2 is something like the Berserk game, or Battle Stadium DON, or Narutimate Hero, or the GANTZ game, or Gungrave, or Katamari.
What? What in the world is your definition of AA? Because if you think Berserk or GANTZ had an AA budget you are out of your mind. They're not indie budgets but they're certainly sitting around A level. Anime games are not high budget games whatsoever.
Anonymous No.715613793 [Report]
>>715562179
trying too hard, anon
Anonymous No.715616334 [Report]
>>715566084
aside from the wrestler, I have no fucking idea who those other retards are.
Anonymous No.715617863 [Report] >>715618558
>>715561976 (OP)

Lol dudes must have blown up his spot so much he actually did the cosplay!
Anonymous No.715618558 [Report]
>>715617863
He's called Japanese Eric Andre for a reason, /v/ro!
Anonymous No.715621214 [Report] >>715622284
>>715603142
Such a strange thing to include them when they have no meaning to the plot. I get that Judgment is dead, but that's no reason to start including the Judgment characters in Yakuza without reason.
Anonymous No.715622284 [Report]
>>715621214
Kiryu and Kaito going head to head was kino thougheverbeit.
Anonymous No.715623835 [Report] >>715624513
>>715612438
>A level
There's no such thing as A level. There's AAA, AA and indie. Have you ever fucking heard of A games in your life? It doesn't even sound right, you couldn't even say it yourself because it sounds retarded. Gantz isn't AAA and it's not indie, so it's AA. Much like most anime games today are AA
Moose !!Tm8/4MnbTW4 No.715624513 [Report]
>>715623835
>There's no such thing as A level.
https://medium.com/@justpatreon/the-death-of-single-a-and-double-a-games-3ff31a8d273e
http://www.fullbrightdesign.com/2009/05/single-games.html
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/264562-playstation-5/80553791
Three examples I could quickly find. AAA is a marketing term for the budget and AA would be a step below that. If AA covers everything below like 10 million+ dollars in the development budget then at what point does AA become Indie? That's what I've seen A used for. AAA being like 10-25+mil, AA being around 5-10 mil, A being around 1-4mil, and Indie being anything below that.
Anonymous No.715624715 [Report] >>715624818
Started Y8. Reached chapter 3. Please tell me it at least opens up soon because Ive lost hope story will get better.
Moose !!Tm8/4MnbTW4 No.715624818 [Report]
>>715624715
Chapter 3 is when it opens up but you need to go to either chapter 4 or 5 for it to properly open up with all the minigames and almost every substory in Hawaii. Keep in mind that later on Kiryu will gain his own completion list so anything you do now only some of it will count.
Anonymous No.715624836 [Report] >>715625001
>>715566084
Yong Yea’s voice is so fucking horrible. wtf were they thinking? His voice made Kiryu sound like a retarded detective on a goofy children’s show.
Anonymous No.715625001 [Report]
>>715624836
>wtf were they thinking?
They thought "He's Asian*! That's Politically Correct! No we don't give a fuck that he's Korean, arr rook da same hahaha!"
Should've kept Darryl.
Anonymous No.715625318 [Report]
>>715576472
>Yes, because it doesn't matter whether you play as them or not