Be honest, if kojima made this piece of shit you'd love it

>>715571198 (OP)
I have Last of Us 2 hate fatigue.

Eh. Only those who got filtered by it would still cry about it. It was pretty great.

>>715571282
I have pedophile fatigue. Wait, does that mean im transphobic?

It’s a fine game but the first one is better.

>>715571198 (OP)
There's something so hot about bruised, sunburned, malnourished, bloody Ellie breaking down in tears on the beach as Abby rows away. I bet in that moment you could probably rape her and she wouldn't do a thing (of course, I wouldn't rape her, I would run my fingers through her hair and gently rub her back and do my best to nurse her wounds and when she wakes up screaming in the middle of the night as we make our way back to Jackson I'd hold her tight and tell her that everything is going to be okay and when we arrive at the farmhouse she'd be solemn, but deep down a little bit happy that Dina is gone because that means that she can be with me instead and bear my strong children.)

>>715571198 (OP)
Kojimba is a hack, however, he would manage to write something better than this.
An apocalyptic soap opera.

Pacing was much MUCH worse than the original and it highly hampers the game. Very fun and polished tho, more original story but little worse in execution.

>>715571198 (OP)
Now show me the gameplay

>>715571198 (OP)
I think so, OP. Especially if you take the ending of Death Stranding. That ending is overly expository, yet no one criticizes Kojima's poor writing. If it were Neil Druckmann doing that exposition dump, people would tear it apart with criticism. The fags here are just Kojima fanboys and completely biased. He's a fraud.

>>715571625
Yeah but it also means you're anti trump

>>715571198 (OP)
CRAWLING IN MY SKIIIIIIIIIN

>>715571979

Why is that baby so ugly.

>>715573087
This is what Kenshi would be like if it was an AAA tittle.

>>715571198 (OP)
>Hack Chinkman without his *co-writer* that was responsible for the first 3 MGS games
It would have been even worse than the pile of shit we got

>>715573424
Its kind of astounding that the world got to see what he was capable of and decided his pamperchu level autism and chris chan level delusions were fine

>>715571198 (OP)
I don't think that Kojima would make a theme as basic bitch as "revenge bad", at least at this point in his career. Secondly, the women would actually be cool and attractive, and while the dialogue and things happening in the game would occasionally be cringe, for the most part they would be too endearingly outrageous to actually have a bad lasting impression.
If Kojima made this, it wouldn't be this shit.

>>715571198 (OP)
If he made it, it would be a better game and would somehow have better writing.

>>715571198 (OP)
Damn that's an ugly baby

>>715571198 (OP)
It's arguably the best video game of all time, and nothing Kojima has made comes close.
(Not meant as an insult to Kojima, I do like his games. But TLOU2 is just something else entirely.)

>>715571198 (OP)
No I wouldn't. Kojimbo is a retard
>this character is called Hot Coldman

>>715571198 (OP)
Not at all. Say what you will about Kojima but at least his stuff is INTERESTING.
It’s strange and often doesn’t make too much sense, but he has fun with it and lets the rule of cool override common sense.

Aside from the many other problems with Last of Us 2, it’s just depressingly boring and conventional. If Kojima made Last of Us 2 the infected would have a dance number in act 3 set to music by a niche American indie band and Abby would be a cyborg ninja with the face of some niche model he’s crushing on. Joel would be revealed to have become a ghost haunting a special infected that can turn into a mech that shoots mycotoxin lasers. It would be over the top nonsense, but it would be memorable and unique nonsense.

The ending is dog shit. God forbid you actually can make choices in video games.

>>715571198 (OP)
writing of a toddler > writing of a leftist
/thread

>>715571198 (OP)
>That screenshot
I feel like this game was hate developed.

Like hate sex, like you dont wanna have sex but you're giving into your primal urges and you're angry whilst doing it.

But in this case instead of primal urges, you're giving into a paycheck. And you're still angry whilst developing it.

>>715575303
Well the director says they dont talk about "fun" in the studio.

>>715571198 (OP)
The problem is Kojima would never make that shit

>>715575576
I literally knew it.
I should always trust my instincts

>>715571198 (OP)
Kojima is a bitch, Konami did right firing his faggoty ass

>>715571979

>>715571198 (OP)
As long as it's a movie game, I'd hate it no matter who made it.

>>715572025
I think that's partially because people with different interests and preferences are attracted to Kojima's games. Regardless of your opinions of their quality, they do attract a very particular type of people.

The reason The Last of Us II was more divisive is because Druckman went out of his way to betray the fans' expectations. When your main goal is to upset people, you can't blame them for getting, well, upset.

>>715576936
FUCK YOU SONY I WANT TO PLAY THIS GAME REEEEEEEEEE

>>715573153
half jap
half jew (somehow a lesbian)

>>715571198 (OP)

>>715572025
>If it were Neil Druckmann doing that exposition dump, people would tear it apart with criticism.
nobody thinks Kojima is a 10/10 writer, just that his stuff is weird and cool enough to overlook the flaws. Cuckmann's shit has all the personality of a shitty oscarbait drama while kojima just throws a bunch of weird but also cool shit at you with 10/10 art direction even if it doesn't totally make sense. Is it necessarily well-written? no. Would i take it any day over gay bland oscarbait shit? yes.

>>715571198 (OP)
la creatura chino-judia...

>>715571198 (OP)
If kojima made it it wouldn't have been woke.

>>715577285
I think he overestimated the emotional maturity of the audience. Joel's death is intentionally upsetting, but I think he expected people to be able to compartmentalize the negative emotions as an intentional part of the story, and not that they would go into hysterics and act like Druckmann killed their real dad

>>715571198 (OP)
If Kojima made this it would've been fun and everyone would've been hot, specially the girls.

>>715571198 (OP)
If Kojima made it, Joel would be alive, Ellie wouldn't be a dyke lesbian, she'd also be dead off-screen, and the fungus plague would turn people into fungi-mech hybrids through a brain implant mutation every human got during that time period

>>715578625
No one got really mad over Joel's death, but over the fact it was literally false advertising and a half baked, nonsensical revenge story

>>715578625
lol

>>715578746
>false advertising
Are video games supposed to spoil themselves in the marketing? MGS2 advertised itself as another Snake game, to the point they released gameplay footage of Snake in the big shell. But oh wait you're not old enough to remember when MGS2 came out

>half baked, nonsensical revenge story
It's not half baked or nonsensical, you are butthurt that epic gruff gamer dad died and/or you're a right wing culture warrior with an axe to grind

>>715578746
Also the fact it's pure subversion and they tried to paint him as a bad guy, going as far as retconning shit from the first game

poojima's supposed fame is forced as fuck. Still never seen two people organically discuss anything about the game. Even the first one was just the forced meme of "le covid courier".

>>715578865
It is false advertising, as they literally showed scenes that weren't in the game trying to bait people. And it's still a shallow, nonsense "revenge bad" story. El Chavo did it better.

>>715578870
No, you're just a manbaby who can't emotionally navigate the story and think that because Druckmann wrote characters that do not like Joel, that HE does not like Joel and is telling you that you shouldn't, either, because you wanted Joel to be epic hero mary sue dad man who could never do wrong.

Imagine watching pic related and thinking "oh yeah Druckmann HATES Joel". Ellie only starts to heal when she realizes Joel only did what any father would have done and she needs to just build a fucking bridge and forgive him

>>715578865
>it was okay when msg2 did it
No it wasn't and the only good thing to come out of that fuck up was the apology game mgs3.

>>715578865
go back, tranny

>>715578865
>Are video games supposed to spoil themselves in the marketing? MGS2 advertised itself as another Snake game, to the point they released gameplay footage of Snake in the big shell. But oh wait you're not old enough to remember when MGS2 came out

I think this is a great example because MGS2 was dragged through the mud on release. People fucking hated playing as Raiden. MGS2 remains the highest metacritic game in the series despite that.

>>715578625
I recall a lot of people expressed the sentiment that they felt they were being admonished for an act that the game essentially forced them to do. With the previous game, I remember people not necessarily agreeing with Joel killing those doctors, but since it was literally the only way to progress there wasn't much of a choice. Now the second game is all "But that doctor was a good guy with a daughter who saved animals, and you killed him you monster!" And for some, I guess it felt like the game was insulting them or something.

This sort of issue is present in a lot of games that don't provide the player with much agency. Games are, first and foremost, an interactive medium, and I think this is one of the reasons certain storytellers are attracted to it, but those storytellers don't always necessarily take full advantage of what it offers. Story-driven games with an emphasis on placing the player in the shoes of the protagonist often try to make the player complicit in the player's actions, and will try to make the player feel a sense of guilt in order to sell their story. But this guilt doesn't really work if the player has no agency. Literally no one is going to feel guilty for doing something a hyper-linear game forced them into doing, but if you criticize the player for being "short-sighted" or "not realizing that the doctor was a human being with his own life and family", it comes off as disingenuous. But at the same time, TLoU2 literally does not work if the player has any degree of agency. Subsequently, it's a story game that completely fails to take advantage of its medium.

>>715573890
>I don't think that Kojima would make a theme as basic bitch as "revenge bad"

>>715571198 (OP)
Kojeemer hasn't made anything good since 2004.

>>715573424
When will this delusional meme stop? This has never been true. You people sound legitimately mentally ill.

>>715578625
>>715578865
Your posts have suspicious file names in the images. Very corporate-esque

TLOU2 has a lot of humor and sentimental moments, it just isn't in your face about it. Everyone acts like the whole game is brutal violence in dark rooms when it's really not like that at all.

>>715573087
was thinking of playing this shit to make a friend happy, but now im thinking of playing stranger of paradise instead

>>715580262
LOLjimas team had to reel him in hard constantly in the early years, once he became "famous" he surrounded himself with yes men and Hollywood baby eaters.

>>715572197
No he would be pro-Trump because he doesn't want to talk about Epstein anymore.

>>715571198 (OP)
My sis had TLOU withdrawal from the series splitting part 2 in two seasons, so she bought the game and we played through it together.
Every problem the story has could be solved if they just cut Abby's part. The pacing, meandering, forced lgbt, straight up emotional manipulation, are only in that section. It's crazy how bad it is.
>story is essentially a side quest of a war between two factions which doesn't matter for the main plot and they both just wipe each other out so they never really mattered in the end
>gameplay structure of doing fetch quests with very weak story reasons, one after the other
>trans kid not accepted by his church storyline deep into a destroyed society
>zombies are barely a factor. main story is about interpersonal drama you could put in any setting
>removing the gameplay element of dogs so that Abby won't kill heckin puppers
And then at the end you return back with your friends to see a map pointing back to the main plot. It's maddening.
I think that if you just had Ellie's story, the game would be good. The final battle and ending are some tragic kino, but I can only appreaciate them in this hypothetical world where the Abby section just doesn't exist.

>>715582238
ending is lame and gay and your a faggot

>>715571198 (OP)
Kojima always puts a happy ending in his game

>>715571198 (OP)
I don't play games with woman protagonist.

>>715581809
SoP is a very good game. Dont buy the dlc version of the game unless its on sale because if you dont 100% vibe with the gameplay loop and loot shit in regards to your job, you'll have wasted money on the dlc

>>715580089
Hearing how people viewed that scene in the first game was actually interesting to me. As I saw it, three medical professionals were about to cut into the brain of Joel’s adopted daughter, so I opened the door and gunned down all three of them without consideration of another option. Which I still think is morally correct. Druckman is more hack than not, but letting the player either be hesitant/merciful in that scene or not is kind of cool as far as these linear story games go

>Be honest, if [Competent person] made this game, you'd love it
???
No shit

>>715571198 (OP)
if Kojima made it then it would be a better game. simple as that.

>>715571198 (OP)
>yo cuando me mandan a cuidar a la bendicion cuando no es ni mia

Joel would somehow comeback at the end if kojima made tlou2

>>715586556
There would be multiple Joels
You'd also play as Joe. Your archnemesis would be Joan

>>715571198 (OP)
I thought Metal Gear Solid 4, MGSV and Death Stranding were retarded.

fuck off cuckmann I know it's only you that makes these threads

>>715586673
And at some point Joel would be drinking a coffee (cup of joe) while someone asks who he is. "Just some average Joe...l."

>>715586302
We're talking about hideo "the end boss should last several weeks of real time" kojima, right mr söy? Or wait, its ma'am now isnt it

>>715571198 (OP)
False, Walking simulator 1 and now 2 are shit games from a hack who should be making shitty movies and not games anymore.

>>715571198 (OP)
Yeah, but if Kojima made it it would be completely different so it's a moot point.

>>715571198 (OP)
Dios mio. El chupacabra de americano

>>715578625
killing the previous protagonists at the beginning of your story is never recieved well, didn't Druckmann ever watch Alien 3?

>>715571198 (OP)
I think Kojima's an overrated pseud

sure thing buddy

>>715571198 (OP)
No. Kojima puts cute girls in his games.

>The same tired arguments
Damn, this game still has people seething.

>>715571198 (OP)
Kojima probably wouldn't have intentionally pissed off the entire fanbase and started weird transbaiting drama.

>>715582238
Worth noting that when the game first dropped and people were streaming it, the death of Joel was good motivation and people were willing to fight their way to the end. It was the abrupt change to Abby and her bland, meandering storyline that tipped the scales. "You're just mad because they killed Joel" insults missed the point entirely. Abby's entire inclusion and campaign was simply ill conceived and poorly executed. Game was still fun to play, but Abby is just a huge fucking misfire on all levels.

>>715575303
>hate developed
Yeah. That's why it leaked. Druckman burned through 70% of ND's staff for a mediocre story and one of them chose to release it into the world. Very based, since watching all of /v/ unite to shit on it was a spectacle to behold. And I loved the game when I finally played it, shit writing aside. Very fun. But the leaks, memes, c,ampaign on grounded, Druckman being exposed as a fake? I'll always love tlou2 for everything it gave the vidys community.

>>715571198 (OP)
I thought the game was genuinely very fun but the story was a definite downgrade.

NEXT GUY

>>715573087
that sandstorm only happen once right?

>>715571198 (OP)
i haven't played kojima since MGS4 or PW. whichever came out last

>>715571198 (OP)
>If Kojima made this
he wouldn't because he's not a retarded jew

this is the same retarded line of reasoning as people who go
>what if your son was gay, would you still be homophobic huh??
He's not because I didn't molest him though, the question implies things just happen randomly

>>715592390
this. It was a pretty spectacular shit show.

>>715571198 (OP)
lol no

>>715594867
I would be extra homophobic

>>715594867
there is only two ways you can become a faggot. not growing up with a father figure, or being molested.

>>715571198 (OP)
If kojima made it I would hate it even more

>>715572025
Druckmann is the GOAT.
Druckmann is what Kojima wishes he was and what Kojima fanboys think he is

>>715571198 (OP)
It would have been terrible, so no.

>>715587750
kinooooo

>>715571198 (OP)
But he could never make it because it's actually good. He could write a better plot, but the characters and dialogue would be way worse.

>>715573087
K I N O

>>715571198 (OP)
If Kojima made that piece of shit there would have been three kung fu fights and the ending would have involved a giant fungus monster or some shit.

I'm tired of pretending the Abby section wasn't the best part of the sequel.

>>715580154
yeah

>>715571198 (OP)
No, because Kojima would still have written something better than TLOU2, no matter how fucking stupid it is.

>>715589194
How many of those people did kojima pay? He literally only hangs out with Hollywood vampires because they're contracted to do so for money. What a sad, sad man