what happened to MMORPGs?

>>715590029 (OP)
They just fell out of style
Simple as

>>715590029 (OP)
They were never good.

>>715590029 (OP)
>dofus is still better than wakfu
swear to god they just dont get it now.

>>715590029 (OP)
They have so much slop content for no good reason

>>715590029 (OP)
They were good when there wasn't much more else to do on your computer so you could spend your entire day there
Nowadays people don't wanna spend hours and hours grinding and miss out on the new trending game

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>>715590029 (OP)
>PSO2roon not even on the list
KWAB

>>715590029 (OP)
>ESO in S
in what fucking world. that game is so fucking boring loop wise.

still playing Ragnarok Online

>>715592186
I stopped playing when they added 3rd jobs. Ascension was more than enough for me.

>>715590029 (OP)
There are people who keep track of MMORPG's in 2025? Good god. I wasn't aware there were many still being made, let alone many people even bothering to play them.

I recognize most of those on the list, but I was convinced half of them had shut down permanently. Throne and Liberty was the last one I remember coming out, and people tried to hype it up. I remember when New World launched. I played it day one and was kind of excited like a lot of people but dropped it after about a week.

>>715590029 (OP)
Nothing really.
The Death of MMOs in reality is actually the death of socialization.

t.have no friend.

>>715590029 (OP)
>S
>ESO
>A
>WoW
>B
>FFXI
Oh man. You have such shit taste.

>>715590029 (OP)
I thought Tera was shut down by 2025?

V rising is not an MMO, is some gay minecraft

>>715590029 (OP)
They were popular when the common game was something like Max Payne and God of War 2, games used to be like 7 hours long so MMOs we're played in between releases of new games, nowdays games are bloted open world that last 50 hours each and the average Steam user must have like over 500 games so no one has time to play MMOs, I hope Koreans make more singleplayer games instead of MMOs

>>715590029 (OP)
Play private servers instead, official modern MMOrpgs servers are all trash. All.

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>>715593117
Its obviously a bait list you tards

>>715590029 (OP)
maplestory in SSS

What's the combat in Elder Scrolls Online actually like in comparison to FFXIV or WoW?
I'm looking for some specifics. people say it's bad, but I've only heard about the default melee swings feeling floaty.

>>715590029 (OP)
The unique attraction of MMOs has long been lost, picked up by many other genres. Ironically, MMOs themselves further diminished their unique element of "massive multiplayer" with modern contrivances, turning their games into singleplayer endeavors and rigidly designing a lot of content around very small instanced teams.
There's no reason to play an MMO when you could play some other genre with large persistent worlds and multiplayer with a lot of people where you have freedom to fuck around.

>>715599894
Every single attack in the game lacks punch besides the first 2h attack skill, also you have to animation cancel every single time you want to use an ability or it throws your dps into the trash. I still play it though it’s great if you just want to run around see Tamriel and do quests.

>>715590029 (OP)
>what happened to MMORPGs?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvK8fua6O64

>>715590029 (OP)
Which one of these are actually F2P? I don't mind cosmetics or pay 2 skip requiring money. as long as i can actually *play* the damn game without meeting a wall I have to pay to get through

>>715590029 (OP)
They've been replaced by gachashit.

>>715590029 (OP)

>>715601017
none, get a job nigger

>>715602658
>paying for vidya
Please, I'd rather lose my wallet than to withdraw a single bill for games.

>>715602734
>I’d rather lose my wallet than withdraw a single bill for video games
You sure you want to do that?
I’m afraid that you will have to make that withdrawl if you want to ever see your waifu again…
This time for Fallout 76

>>715600473
yeah, the evolution of modern MMOs basically means they'll end up as MH or PSO
sit in hub, select area you want to grind/monster you want to kill, tp in, slaughter everything, return, repeat until you get everything then get excited for next area/monster to grind for 100 hours

>>715601017
for some inexplicable reason maplestory is not listed in OP's pic, but it is probably what you're looking for. it has a server that disables trading, but pretty much all p2w cash items are grindable.

>>715590029 (OP)
somehow I found myself playing guild wars 2 a lot again
I'm still a bit salty at how cucked the skill system is compared to guild wars 1 but the game does a decent enough job of being an MMO where the open world shit is actually worth doing and you're not just constantly cirlejerking in an instance with 4 other dudes

Honestly the race and class options in GW2 is what turned me off the most from it. Didn't like how little variety there was and the specific brand of weird they were.

>>715602934
Haha, it was just a joke, Mr. Howard. I-I always make an exception for you!

>>715597391
It's a MORPG.

Mabinogi is still around I'm still playing it. More people are currently playing than in a long time because of the events running right now.

>>715604352
every time i think about starting mabinogi i get distracted and play something else
it looks okay, but i feel like i should wait for the overhaul

>>715590029 (OP)
List seems to be completely random, so I'll just ignore it.

Current vidya culture:
>doesn't like to spend huge lengths of time on more than one specific game at a time, and most people are already locked into some online shooter
>doesn't like in-game guild/party systems that much and would much rather use LFG auto-parties and Discord
>has zero interest in immersion or the "world" of a game, and only cares about endgame, the rush to endgame, and either a complete adherence to the meta or completely discarding builds entirely
>can't handle waiting for anything and would rather just buy their shit to get it now, invalidating a huge chunk of the game's content
>hates building guilds and only joins the already-big ones, leading to a fuckload of empty guilds and no GvG content
>hates grinding more than they used to and will outright ignore most content to avoid it, or they'll just get powerleveled to skip it entirely
>hates "weird" classes/races

Also:
>MMOs cater to solo players, so there's almost no reason to party up outside of raids since every class can solo PVE so nobody gets mad at the devs when their healer can't fight
>wikis make secrets and strategies completely optimized and thoroughly catalogued, removing any guesswork or mystery from the game
>MMOs with subscriptions die immediately unless they're a big-name legacy MMO, and even those still tend to die and go F2P
>without subs, the games often need huge cash shops full of tempting goodies, which makes the games worse for anyone not a whale
>nobody reads anything ever anymore, so the game has to either be fully-voiced or have basically no story
>people are way the fuck busier than they used to be and don't want to dedicate time to something like an MMO anymore

>>715599894
ESO in first person just looks and plays like upgraded/tweaked Skyrim, I like it. Can't say the game's a great MMO though, I mostly just played it like some kind of Daggerfall remake or something, questing across Tamriel solo.

>>715590029 (OP)
>chinks make a modern tab target mmo
>its fucked by a jewish auction on every raid drop system and an in-game rmt system

fuck this gay world

>>715590029 (OP)
>Eve
>F
it has its problems but there's honestly no game like it. The only people that hate it are risk-adverse crybabies who hate losing shit when they die, and 3rdies who think $20 is a lot of money

>>715605072
Albion Online is Eve with actual gameplay.

>>715605072
Its literally clash of clans where you have to wait real time to get % upgrades or get to the next ship tier (town tier). Of course, you can pay to speed this process up.
EvE was good when you used to be able to not do this

>>715590029 (OP)
The playerbase got used to eating shit, the devs noticed this and that's why a game could release today and it'll have 30 year old threat-table enemy ai design and quest writing with negative resources put into it because it's expected players will click through. If you eat shit, motherfuckers will feed you shit.

>>715590029 (OP)
Cultural and technological changes I'd say. Back when I first played MMOs, multiplayer gaming beyond couch co-op or hotseat was a sort of a rare treat for me, playing games online wasn't really something I did so MP was more like a LAN party thing or something we'd sneak in on the school computers. Then I hear about these games with massive online worlds where you play together with hundreds or even thousands of other people on the server and the appeal was huge and immediate. When I started playing, exploring the worlds felt amazing and mysterious, I'd go around being awed by what I found and often having no idea how to complete quests or beat strong enemies, which is where the multiplayer aspect comes in. I'd just run into random people playing through the same areas, we'd naturally talk about how to complete quests or make parties to kill things we couldn't kill alone. I'd help them with the things I had figured out, they'd help me with what they figured out and so on. If it went well we became friends and continued playing together, soon enough you've got a naturally-built group of people or guild to play with. It was great.

Things have changed nowadays. Multiplayer no longer has any special appeal in particular because it's ubiquitous. Exploring the worlds of MMOs doesn't really feel particularly unique since huge open-world games are common. What's even worse is the cultural shift. The kind of mystery and exploration combined with natural social interaction is just no longer possible, people nowadays just speedrun from objective to objective, the game needs to give them their GPS and they're going to follow some guide on YT too. If the game doesn't really cater to this, they just don't play.

The MMORPG golden years were lightning in a bottle, a creation of those times and of the culture we had back then. Now it's just something in the past.

>>715590029 (OP)
dofus
more like
doofus
HAHAHA

You don't need millions of players. Some regular multiplayer game can give you the MMORPG experience you are looking for.

>>715590029 (OP)
Zillennials/GenZ are antisocial weirdos that are afraid of social interaction.

>>715590029 (OP)
>S
SWTOR at launch
>F
Everything else