What are the best boomer RPGs? Nothing beyond 2004. I want some games I can put 100 hours into

>>715592394 (OP)
If you mean you wanna put 100 hours into one playthrough, that ain't happening with old school CRPGs. You gotta replay them or do a bunch of modules.
As for the best games, it's mostly just the Black Isle and Troika games. Maybe the Geneforge games too.

>>715593190
the fuck is geneforge?

>>715592394 (OP)
anything by Spiderweb Software

>>715593190
geneforge eh? never heard of these thanks anon

>>715593190
troika games are bad ass. all three of them

>>715592394 (OP)
NWN is fucking absolute dogshit that gets rated by nostalgia retards as being anywhere near Fallout or Baldur. Absolute pure delusion to rate this game above a 2/10.
Same with Half life, every other boomer shooter curbstomps it

>>715592394 (OP)
>that ain't happening with old school CRPGs.
Bg2 and maybe falllout 2 if you tried to do every quest possible.

>>715595174
So what is good then?

For me its arcanum, diffrent system than typical dnd, great world and lore that makes you want to explore not just to continue with quest but to learn more about world, kinda funny reaction based on stats and your race, one of best ending in RPG

>>715592394 (OP)
'100 hours' is a zoomer standard.
If you want something good (but not necessarily long) try Baldur's Gate 2, Icewind Dale 2, Arcanum, and Planescape Torment, to get the 'classics' out of the way.

>>715595174
I believed you until you said HL was bad
Now I feel I have to play NWN

>>715595894
For me NWN is bad, you are forced with one npc, game is disgusting in graphic thanks to early 3d, i dont love DND system but its just me, i would say NWN is too much close to Kotor than Icewind Dale that i dont enjoy specialy on this system where is good to have many class in team

>>715595894
nwm was mostly loved for its online since running modules was the closest thing to online dnd. cant image theres much activity online anymore

>>715595894
Half life gets praised for LE NARRATIVE but System shock did it far better
Half life gets praised for LE SPECTACLE but Unreal did it far better
Blood and Quake also play significantly better.
Also Half life has no music 95% of the time... In the era of soundtracks like Quake 2 and Unreal.
Half life is utterly outclassed at everything it tried. The fact valve got big from it is a complete farce. Its such a terrible game

>>715597993
Yet it’s somehow the most influential of all those games listed
Except arguably quake

Divine Divinity, Arx Fatalis, Ground Control, BG 1 and 2, Planescape, Icewind

>>715592394 (OP)
NWN is fun once you learn the mechanics.

>>715595174
>boomer shooter
Opinion invalidated
>>715597993
>Half life gets praised for LE NARRATIVE but System shock did it far better
They're not even comparable retard. One's a slowburn scifi horror game the other's a fast paced unbroken action movie
>Half life gets praised for LE SPECTACLE but Unreal did it far better
Unreals campaign is fucking boring.
>Also Half life has no music 95% of the time
It's called atmosphere retard.

>>715595174
unironically filtered

>>715598513
How has half life influenced anything?

All the other games mentioned have had more actual influence on other games. The smartest thing valve did was hire a PR team to make NPCs think that half life was special and the retards bought it hook, line and sinker.

I recommend Icewind dale 1 and 2, also dragon age origin.

>>715599064
Half life is fucking boring

>>715592394 (OP)
why would you want inferior games? Just play something normal

>>715594992
Just an incredible run and then they exploded

>>715592394 (OP)
Check out Lionheart: Legacy of the Crusader.

>>715599912
it changed the way games implement story away from a more arcadey style
and HL did plenty of other things extremely well on top of that

>oh cool, an RPG thread
>*shit flinging over Half Life*

What are the best NWN modules? Official, or fanmade. I tried swordflight and it was fucking dogshit.

>>715592394 (OP)
https://rpgcodex.net/content.php?id=12405

>>715592394 (OP)
Gothic 1 and 2 are a must play.

You posted the GOAT.

>>715595879
You want to play the first IWD.
The second one has been thrown together by Cuck Sawyer in like less than a year and is definitely not a "classic". It's more likely to put you off for good, in fact.

>>715601242
How's the leveling in IWD? I played through BG1 recently and being stuck in low level DnD made me wanna gouge my eyes out.

>>715595174
Yeah, NWN was always shit. The only people who ever cared about it were people who played on persistent servers because they were too poor to afford a WoW subscription.

>>715601332
Well, maybe skip IWD then.

>>715601389
Kill yourself blizznigger

>>715592394 (OP)
Planescape Torment, you can stretch the playtime by casting level 9 spells

>>715596228
>cant image theres much activity online anymore
I don't know about the original, but EE is decently populated. This is what the server list looks like around 30 seconds ago.

How do I get into Baulders gate?

>>715601332
I don't know why the other guy's telling you to skip IWD. It has a much better early game than BG1 - There's enough exp in the prologue to level up once or twice without any real combat, and the first proper dungeon is around the level 4-7 range depending on class. After that it's midgame the whole way, with the final boss being around level 15 on Core

>>715602245
Alright, that does sound pretty great, actually. I'm sold.

>>715602215
What are you having trouble with?

>>715602852
It's old and janky

>>715602215
Just play it.

Stats = bigger number better
Armour = lower number better
thac0 (chance to hit) = lower number better

Fighters are consistently good. Mages need to be at least level 3 to be useful. Bards are bad.

There, that's it, that's the whole tutorial.

>>715602892
>Bards are bad.
They're pretty good in BG1 akcshully. They scale faster than other casters so spells like Magic Missile reach their full potential quicker, and they can learn Fireball at half the experience of other casters. They only really suck if you're treating them as a martial.

>>715602861
Make your character an Archer. (the ranger subclass)

>>715603105
Fair. They're really good in IWD, but I never thought to use one in the original BG. Maybe that should be my next playthrough.

>>715595174
What a strange way to suggest a game

Icewind dale, nwn2, wizardry 8
>t. 27 year old zoomers childhood vidya

>>715595894
Trust me anon the original module for nwn is quite bad and the gameplay really isn't enough to carry it. Go for hordes of the underdark or look into some of the community modules.

if you paid for WoW subscription even once then your signature to SKG should be invalidated and removed from the initiative

>>715592394 (OP)
Might & Magic 4+5 World of XEEN
it's two wholeass games connected to eachother. Enjoy
theres also a mod for M&M 8 to combine 6,7, and 8 into World of Enroth

D&D goldbox series
migrate your 2e party across numerous adventures. To start with, Pool of Radiance, Curse of the Azure Bonds, Secret of the Silver Blades, and Pools of Darkness
There're also the Buck Rogers XXVC games on the same engine, Countdown to Doomsday and Matrix Cubed

Ultima series. Dont just watch a retrospective, play the games

>>715603892
you seem like a passionate boomer and I bet you havent played this before, it just got released on steam too https://store.steampowered.com/app/3533830/Brny_Skeldalu/

>>715601389
>>715595174
No zoomer will ever experience the sense of mystery and adventure of millennial elementary school kids playing nwn for the first time

>>715604350
the jews really did a number on your retarded millenial ass with this forced generational segregation lmao

like imagine being 30 and being so bitter and pathetic youre already going "those damn younger kids fuck them we had it so much better than them hehehee" lmao fucking unc ahh shit grandpa, except youre some 30 year old balding fuckwit, not a dying man with his life behind him.

>>715602861
You'll get over it. The first time I launched Arcanum I thought I was teleported to 19th century. You'll get used to many old game after several hours. In fact id say the most inconvenient of old rpgs was fallout 1

>>715604350
Nice try zoomer but we had Fallout and the Infinity Engine games and were massively disappointed by how shit NWN was.

>>715604394
Jews didn't invent generational dynamics or fourth turning if thats what you mean. And if you believe there aren't clear differences between generations then you're a brain dead retard

>>715604452
drop an address

>>715604394
>>715604452
>nooooo stop saying there are differences between generations and some generations had more fun! I'm a narcissistic npc all I care about is hedonism I must have all the best fun reeeeee
mental illness

>>715604591
Fallout 1 is shit when it comes to gameplay, it's janky, you need to tinker with the menu system to do basic things like pick up or inspect, no such problem with nwn

>>715604773
And it's slow as fuck, if you fight multiple enemies you can cook a basic lunch by the time you're finished.

>>715604591
For real, even game magazines were openly shitting on NWN because of the main quest. And early 3D was a huge visual downgrade to pre-renders.

>>715603535
NWN2 really is a one of a kind game

All of you should play Skald: Against the Black Priory if you haven't yet.

>>715604773
>>715604824
ADHD ridden niggas

>>715600386
>>715594992
>Headquarters Irvine, California, United States

I always thought troika is russian jank kino

>>715604838
nwn2 was such a downgrade from nwn1
nwn1 is still great to play with all the custom modules
nwn2 on the other hand aged like milk

>>715605035
It's on my to-play list but I have a considerable amount of backlog I want to get through first.

>>715606887
they do have that vaguely russian feel to them. I think it's all the philosophical stuff that does it.

NWN's main campaign with low INT is kino

>>715605035
Absolutely. Made it to the last area and it's fantastic.

>>715609580
The studio name is Russian and their logo is communism themed with the worker raising the arrow. Arcanum also had some daring statements.

>>715595174
TRVTHNVKE

>>715601242
>The second one has been thrown together by Cuck Sawyer
So like the first one?

>>715611134
He isn't listed on the first one as THE lead director despite people (or maybe S. himself) claiming so. And it's truly a good game which makes me doubt his input. For clarity, he's listed as one of three leads.

>>715596118
Wizardry 8 is best Wizardry
Also Etrian Odyssey IV is best Wizardry but the other one

>>715592394 (OP)
I never played Neverwinter Nights properly because every single time I always had a texture error with my character turning into metal mario, and I didn't care enough to fix it.

>>715592394 (OP)
The original Baldur's Gate trilogy (EET + SCS), Fallout 1-2, Planescape Torment, Gothic 1-2, Morrowing. All these games now also getting AI generated voice acting, which sound pretty good.

>>715600942
Half life's story is garbage and many games had better stories that were implemented better than half life. Just accept you got bamboozled by marketing and move on.

Spiderweb games is pretty solid, all of their games can easily eat 100 hours

>>715612806
The actual story isn’t the point
It’s how it’s portrayed through the gameplay