Who would to buy a handheld with 2 screens anyway?

boomers

>>715642826 (OP)

Do you prefer maximizing on a particular metric or just try to optimize overall?

>>715644415
i started as min cost, but min turns is more fun

>>715645038
min cost on sawblade levels is aids, speed is definitely the most fun way.

MULTIPLE SCREENS
(OMFG)
(OMFG)
(OMFG)

I like my Joggers solution

>>715648501
Crap, I just saw a way to optimise this further
Goddamnit

>>715642826 (OP)
check this out

>>715644415
I'm normally a speed freak, but I may try for area this time.

>>715648709
>>715648705
lmao what the fuck

>>715648619
Ah... much better

So..
>Office Waifu
Or
>President's granddaughter

>>715648879
Slick as fuck

>>715649109
Ojou marriage of conveninece, rent an apartment on the side for the Pachinko mistress

>>715642826 (OP)
This solitaire fucking sucks.

>>715649873
It's a bit less cerebral than their prior offerings to be sure

>>715649109
>President's granddaughter
This is the most unbelievable part of the game, why would Kaichou want to marry his daughter to a random gaijin and not to someone from Sony or Honda.
Japan in the 80s is literally an oligarchy. It was feudalism by capitalism

>>715644415
I tend to default to cycles, but different puzzles tend to have different difficulty curves for certain solutions so if something seems more interesting I'll attempt that next
Often the cycles will be extremely easy but then I try to do space and I'm stuck for hours

>>715649206
Ty Anon
The rest of my efforts tend to end up a little right of the histogram optimals

Bros......

Implicit differentiation.....

It's just the chain rule. dy/dy * dy/dx

FUCK simplifying though. Sal never taught me that so ChatGPT gets to do it.

>the rice wasn't symmetrical on all sides
This made me more upset than it should have.

...holy shit...

It was actually right. It's official. I can partially memorize and follow literally any short series od mathematical instructions you give me.

Why is there an /x/ schizo in this thread?

>>715652259
I even watched 1 or 2 of the proof videos for the rules but I was already learning so much desu. I will find the slope of the tangent at any input of your function even it's composite (I think).

>>715652259
math is demonic, indeed

someone show the 2 step slution bls

Are people liking this more than Opus Magnum? I haven't picked it up yet but it being basically the same game but not on a hex grid and not needing to place the finished piece in an exact spot seems very appealing

>>715648501
double grabber on moves works? i guess i coded mine wrong when testing.

>>715652895
its definitely easier than opus and simpler but still very fun for playing with the new set of rules

>>715653116
started bothering component movement speed. if i moved that main arm slower, the 1 tile pieces land in a different place.

>>715653116
That works for me, I had a lot more fun optimizing the more intuitive designs than I did solving the more complicated ones in any form

>>715652638

>>715652638
Drills are so fucking worthless man they're both expensive and slow. I've never had a reason to use them over regular cutters.

>>715651507
theres a reason. you are reusing the onigiri template for the rice. just factory things. i sorta wish they did that more this game

>>715653601
they are good for pokes. avoids getting in the way of sliding the piece 9 tiles in a direction after a drill poke

>>715652895
Part of the appeal is that you're making actual things like infinifactory, instead of the abstract stuff in Opus.

>coffee maker in 3 steps
Fucking how?
That seems impossible.

>>715654380
i only see my name. how do you see top or tenth percentile?

I gave up on the 6 step because I couldn't be bothered to fix the positioning anymore.

>>715655008
its in the options
>percentiles: both

How is the solitaire in this?
The solitaire collection was my GOTY and I would buy this just for more.
Fuck cribbage though.

>Pirate game
>play for 20 minutes
>Proceed to buy game
Is that what VIDEOGAMES are all about?

>>715655345
It's basically like the Sigmar's Garden again but worse since your item to match is dealt randomly.

>>715654380
>coffee maker in 3 steps
Wasn't that difficult. No flipping needed. Have to do some tetris to make everything fit and for arms to retract in time.

>>715654380
As the other anon said, just a little bit of tetris.

>>715654380
Just as the other Anon said, needs a little bit of tetris.
I realized I still had some worthless spacing from my older build on it.

>>715656160
NO FLIPPING, AND NO HASSLE

>>715655687
chad

>>715654006
molecules are actual things not abstract concepts

>>715655687
Piracy in lieu of demos is a very valid choice.

>>715657253
wild stuff
tried on my own as well but i could never go below even 6 steps

>>715658158
>do this
>go buy game I liked
>see it has demo
D'oh!

>>715658165
turn counts are most of the time capped by the amount of repeat materials you need and rarely go more than 1-2 turns above them.

Go from this

To THIS, im liking the game so far.

I'm not autistic enough for this game

>>715659391
>>715659460
>that stealth swastica on the saw blade
kek

i want zachtronics and 2dboy to collaborate on a game.

>>715659578
You can brute force all the puzzles since there's no limits on tools or steps or anything.
The autism comes from wanting to optimize your production.

>>715659724
2d boys and girls just got banned from steam
good luck with that

>>715659898
trash game, there should be a time constraint or limited budget
this is a fucking factory, it should've been about quantity, not making a single item
there are tons of fun stuff when you need to make an actual production line for multiple objects
you can even do a breakdown of time vs cost to see what's best in the long run

zach became a hack

>>715660243
You can do that yourself by simply referencing the metrics the game gives you
Set your own targets nigga

>>715660243
opus magnum is like that. you require at least 5 cycles or so of the constructed item so returning to initial position is important. when you beat the first part of the game, you get a challenge mode where you build with massive space constraints.

>>715659904
2dboy are the guys behind world of goo.

>>715660748
>joke
>your head

>>715660520
that space restricted challenge mode wasn't in the game on launch so you'll just have to hope this game gets an update like that too

>>715660243
>retard unable to understand self imposed limits
The game literally gives you metrics to judge you solution by. If you want a hard limit on progression then set your own standards. Little pigeon has been conditioned to such an extent he is unable to enjoy a game unless the dev tells him how to exactly play.

>>715648879
I can't stop optimising!

>>715660914
if they did something with 3 stars were subpar solutions are 1 star and great solutions are 3 stars, then all the good players would lose drive to improve and all the bad players would nag in the reviews and forums that they cant get 3 stars.
this leaderboards system is better.
just compare yourself with friends if you are a casual or compare yourself globally if you are the best like me.

>>715661032
>can prevent the initial spawn by having a grabber start on it
Holy fuck I didn't know this.

>>715660243
its like a golf game. you technically win if you complete all the courses, but you still want to hit below par.

>>715661032
is there a mod to flip the sprites on the saw blade so it looks like a swastica?

>>715661138
Funnily enough the game has preset metrics you can compare to as well. if you're a dirty pirate like me.

>>715660892
man its 2 am and im fucking dead just browsing shitty threads and cant sleep cause yurops hot and i gotta work tomorrow.
cut me some slack. im just a a corpo cuck trying to relax a bit.

>>715661273
relax on deez nutz

>>715661156
Speaking of golf...that 3rd pachinko machine is such bullshit.

I think i'm reaching the limit on how well i can keep up
>3 turns above top percentile
>cost and area way to the right
it might be over

>>715661210
what do you mean? i pirated the game and the online histogram works fine and gets updated each time
no internet = empty histogram

>>715642826 (OP)
How is it? My favorite Zach games are by far Shenzhen I/O and then probably SpaceChem.

>>715660976
>retard unable to understand self imposed limits
you goddamn degenerate, earlier games had deeper mechanics
bot spacechem and opus magnum had better material collision and better rotation

this trash game feels like a fucking downgrade, only flipping, no making multiple unique things at the same time, no grand fun fight (like spacechem), it's a glorified jigsaw puzzle with less automation tools.

>muh self imposed
it's a fucking factory, just tell me the price market of the product so i can optimize for some proper value, since it's too easy to go over budget for single digit time, or be super slow while abusing the same arm and tracks

the flipping is lame, the polish is trash, welding clothes? can't even change welders to something more thematic???
the music is garbage too, i muted it immediately, and the pachinko variants all suck
hell even the story sucks, the theme itself suck, plastic food???

bump

Trash game, Zack fell off

>>715662145
It's one of the easiest Zachtronics, and like a cross between Infinifactory and Opus Magnum. It's still satisfying, but you have to have an optimizer's mind set.

>>715661836

game seems pretty short.

>>715661032
Hold on whats the point of D? shouldnt C be able to push the entire piece? Am i retarded?

>>715670301
D is the one flipping it back. If C flips it would go to the left

>>715670301
D needs to push it's side past the blade

>>715655085
i used it as a test for cutting with flips. pretty cumbersome. also, fucking rc car is walling me. i have no idea how to even start with a low turn solution

So how does this game fare in terms of difficulty? By the gifs seems easier that Opus Magnum

>>715648879
This is so dumb. the soldering points don't sew. inconsistent crap.

>>715671445
is this the birth of the Kaizen schizo?

>>715671389
very easy, the hardest puzzle was the dress because the game itself failed to detect some flipped solutions, it was patched after release

It's like 2d Infinifactory this is great

>>715672038
akshually
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1601860/Warp_Factory/

>>715642826 (OP)
I was too dumb for that one game he made with the gundam painting and the fast-food making and the microchip schematiching.

>>715671098
i just beat it with 25 steps or so. the level that comes afterwards looks fucking evil

>>715672139
Thanks anon

>>715671098
Oh yeah glueing the buttons onto the top piece right away is actually much simpler than delivery system I set up.

Is there anything worth buying from this automation sale? I had a look through the top sellers and recommended and they're all early access

Signal State is decent

>>715645038
Ohhh.

>>715669445
I don't have a specific goal but there's a trend of me optimizing for area first, then cost and my time scores being extremely dogshit.

>>715671098
I feel like this could be 1 turn better (somewhere), but this is my RC car low turns solution.

>>715677101
is there a mod to make this a work briefcase instead of a gay "gucci" femshit?

>>715677101
>optimizing for area
>Arm A + track are one tile higher for no reason
huh

I...I kneel...

>>715678475
have you tried out "a = b" before?
its some programming puzzle game where a=b and its "variations" are the only tools at your disposal
its pretty neat.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1720850/AB/

>>715678195
huh. I probably had that there from some earlier iteration and didn't notice it. Thanks

>>715677357
I really like the way you did the wheels. I need to use this strategy of pre-arranging components and then flipping the frame on top of it more.

>>715678747
wait you need to do the flip at the end? it wont accept it if its upside down? lame

>>715677357
that was cool