Which souls game has the superior pvp?

2 unironically

>>715671602 (OP)
I've heard people sing the praises of 2 the most in terms of PvP. Personally I have no idea, I was never into invading.

Ugh, none of them. PvP has always seemed like some half assed plan tacked on to the game because "It was in Demon's Soul".

Sure as hell not ER

>>715671652
>golf-swinging people off the bridge in iron keep
hell yeah

>>715671770
>le PVP was an afterthought
Repeating the same line that has been posted 1000 times only makes you sound dumb. Form your own opinion

Elden Ring unironically because of the variety of items and magic, but 2 is slower and more strategic and it doesn't have that instant backstab autism plus covenants.

>>715671849
Filtered

2 had the best pvp because there was lots of viable loadouts outside of lag rolling with a zweihander

DaS is where it peaked. People were willing to play with unoptimized shit and looked to beat goofy ass shit like Havelmoms/Giantdad TWOP + Crystal shield.

>>715671652
No one can dispute that.

>>715672078
Yeah backstabbing people to death is peak pvp

>>715671602 (OP)
I used to like 3 until everyone cried about the seed of a giant tree.

>>715672210
Youre a pussy. Who cares what others think

>>715672165
Yes, bitch. Your faggy tech is gay as fuck.

bloodborne if it wasnt stuck at 30fps, hows that emulator comin along?

>>715671914
maybe its been repeated because its true, what multiplayer-focused game regularlly tolerates poor decade-old netcode, high packet loss, and an average 250ms match?

>>715673105
Do you think he'll answer you soon or just keep hiding in shame?

>>715671602 (OP)
2
soul memory was shit tho

>>715671602 (OP)
>Mechanics
Elden Ring, with Dark Souls II being a close second. Demon's Souls and Dark Souls are the worst.
Multiplayer system
>Dark Souls III. Elden Ring is by far the worst. It's a shame that Elden Ring's mechanics are trapped within the worst multiplayer system FromSoft has ever designed.

>>715673014
Perfect, except that the game crashes every 1-2 hours due to a memory leak. But since it auto-saves and takes ~10s to launch, it isn't a big deal. I played it 4 times back in January, the memory leak may be fixed with the recent ShadPS4 update.

>>715674123
>Perfect, except that the game crashes every 1-2 hours
does it have any multiplayer functionality/invasions yet?

>>715674510
Not that I know of

>>715674510
Who cares?

>>715674547
I care
t. Chad

>>715674798
>t. Chad
more like t. faggot

>>715675729
We dont sign our posts here

>>715674123
>Mechanics
>Elden Ring
Really? I haven't played it myself but all of pvp I've watched looks like everyone just one-shotting eachother with weapon arts

>>715676974
if you get oneshot with any weapon art your build sucks because you dont have 60vig minimum which is a pretty common known standard for pvp

the bigger problem, as has been the case in other souls games, is that thrusting swords are still the best weapon class miles above everything else

>>715677623
>invade
>its another 3 man gank using thrusting swords with lightning infusions/greases
>turn on cheats
>they get butthurt
too bad, eat shit you meta faggots

>>715676974
That's a balance issue, not a mechanical issue. Some balance issues stem from mechanical issues, directly or indirectly, but the fundamental mechanics of Elden Ring PvP are really good. The R1 R1 true combo from DS3 was removed, true combos are relatively balanced, and there's a lot of untrue combos based on reading defensive options. Rolling also has fewer recovery frames than DS3, meaning rolls can be consistently punished. Everything is viable, even the most obscure builds, and there's an obscene amount of build variety thanks to Elden Ring's massive amount of equipment, spells, buffs, and passive effects. Almost every attack has a purpose and an incentive to use it, even obscure shit like using crouching R1s with buffered movement inputs to set up true combos with throwing knife headshots.

The balance issue is that, in high level invasions, you're consistently forced into 3v1s against players who are dealing way too much fucking damage due to multiplicative buffs. And because hybrid builds are so common in Elden Ring, magic is the best it has ever been, and even pure "melee" builds have access to ranged damage, you're constantly being bombarded by projectiles at the 1 in the 3v1. This is why people recourse to one-shotting other players with multiplicative buffs and one-shots or true combos that leverage them.

If you play the game in the 20-80 range, which is easy to do, it's the best FromSoft PvP has ever been. It can be really good at high levels too, but more rarely.

>>715671652
Played it on the 360, I got into it pretty late because invasions were only consistent on the weekends. The fight clubs had like the same 4~6 people on rotation that I would recognize and they would recognize me and emote. Great times.

>>715671602 (OP)
>pvp
lel do niggas really?

they're all good

>>715678631
dudes really be like
>i don't get it why don't you just play a fighting game

>>715678417
Casul

>>715677961
>the 20-80 range
This is ruined by a separate issue: obscenely overpowered password phantoms

>>715678674
shits goofy, i love it

>>715679038
Seamless fixes this luckily

>>715671652
>consistent fight clubs
>it's fun watching and participating in it
>especially even more fun when all hell break loose the moment someone stab the host

>>715673105
that's just japanese netcode

>>715677961
ER is severely harmed by the lack of covenant autism that was present in the Souls games. It not only gave incentive to invade, but created hot spots and natural congregation zones (oh shit it's the PVP area i'm going to get invaded!), something that ER needs more than any other game so far. The lack of solo invasions is also very bad. If ER didn't have the massive 20 billion playerbase out of nowhere that it got, the multiplayer would have already died.

>>715679365
also lack of actual region matchmaking, since the setting ingame does nothing, so you get to play against chinks and russians all the time

>>715671602 (OP)
Uh none? They all have nonfunctional netcode.

>>715679461
rip purplechads, recusant just isnt the same

>>715681187
>>715679461
>>715679321
>when someone stabs the host
oh shit that's me!

>>715679541
And youre brown so whats the issue?

Elden Ring for arena.
DS3 for invasions.

>>715671914
He's 100% right, Dark Souls multiplayer has always been a huge, shitty gimmick. The games would improve immensely if From siphoned whatever energy they were using for it to other things.