Why does Miyazaki omit a traditional pause button?

It's all slop designed for the braindead streamer audience.

>>715697203
Demon and Dark Souls came out before streaming was big.

Like in Sekiro?

>>715697065 (OP)
sekiro isn't a souls game. also, it's the only one in the pic that can be paused

Just to add extra tension between bonefires.

>>715697267
Eceleb shills were a thing back then. How do you think shit like Slenderman made it mainstream?

>>715697326
>>715697363
I chose a random pic for op. But as for the rest why

>>715697435
I hear what you’re saying, but the popularity of souls games isn’t because of streamers. Streamers played them because they’re popular. Its the other way around

>>715697065 (OP)
Gameplay loop can't be stopped.

I don't know but it works for me. Game worlds feel more alive without one.

>>715697486
The push for more souls was started by ecelebs and journalist shills in the west. It's what initially started this inorganic inflated popularity status.

>>715697808
Souls hasn't gotten a new game in close to a decade. Your argument might be outmoded.

>>715697065 (OP)
Because these are made for autistic people, who ignore phones ringing, doorbells, important messages or calls for meals.

>>715697065 (OP)
To encourage the player to think quickly in do or die situations.

>>715697808
Demon Souls wasn’t inorganic. It was a poorly selling 20fps ps3 games that a handful of people fell in love with. Then Dark Souls released on both PS3 and 360 to no initial hype but it had a very dedicated fanbase. Once it caught a little momentum, they rereleased it as the “Prepare to Die” edition playing off thw fact that people were enjoying how difficult the games were. Nothing about it was close to inorganic until maybe Elden Ring

>>715698076
That does more harm than good because it’s just convenient

>>715697065 (OP)
Just quit out of the game? It saves your current position at all times.

>>715697065 (OP)
He needs to omit it in order to add more input delay.

Because the developers hate the player.
>Oh I need to use the restroom
>I need to answer the door/phone
>Family member needs help
Now you're punished for existing outside of the game. Makes sense to why the fambase is so cult like, it literally employs tactics that cults use to gain control of people to weaken their mental state to hijack their typical ability to pursue logic.

Probably because of invasions

>>715698578
There is not input delay you maggot

>>715697065 (OP)
>>715697392
It’s fucking dumb. The whole reason a pause function exists in games is so you can go to the bathroom or do whatever other urgent business interrupts your game.

There’s no reason why you shouldn’t be able to pause at all times. It’s been an industry standard since the 80s for a reason.

>>715697065 (OP)
Because they're multiplayer games and they don't want to give singleplayer autists a massive advantage like pausing time, it would further dissuade people from playing multiplayer.

Tranny games for the mentally ill.

>>715698918
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>>715698915
I see you didn't play Elden Ring.

>>715698918
>industry standard
Miyazki is above such trifles. Need some water? Need to take a piss? Your dog is acting up? Your daughter needs something? Your doordash arrived? You’re getting a phone call??? TOUGH SHIT FAGGOT. PREPARE TO LE DIE

>>715698998
Then you have to go through the hassle of reloading the game and going through a loading screen again. It may not be the end of the world, but it’s way less convenient than just pausing and unpausing.

>>715698984
You can literally ignore all the multiplayer modes. These are by no means multiplayer first games.

>>715699149
Try not being a consolefag and/or HDDfag

>>715699036
Its not an input delay. Its heavy startup on the animations. There’s a difference

>>715699152
So? They're still designed to be multiplayer games whether you like it or not.

>>715699152
They are. They just half assed both single and multi player aspects of the game.

>>715697065 (OP)
I'm gonna guess the reason is the PVE? and online player invasions? that's the only justification i could see for why he never included it.

>>715699202
No matter how fast your computer is, closing and reopening will never be as fast or convenient as pausing and unpausing. But you already know that you dishonest shitter

>>715699246
They’re single player first with a multiplayer addon.

>>715698510
It would me more convenient if you could pause the game and change your whole equipment mid fight. Quickswapping is a skill.

>>715699218
I see. So instead of it being input delay it's just delay that happens after the input.
Thanks, I learned something new.

>waaaaa why no pause button
>waaaaa why no easy mode
>waaaaa why are there boss runbacks
>waaaaa why are there invasions
Why are gamers such pussies now?

>>715699401
Pausing is a QoL feature. The whole “it adds tension” argument falls flat on its face when you realise they could have just as easily made the inventory screen unpaused, and then just had a seperate pause button.

>>715699401
Pausing is a mechanic that has existed since 1982, but Master Miyazaki the Man is infallible and his word is law.

Can you retards play anything else? Millions of games deserve more attention than this slop.

>>715699393
It’s more accurately described as a delay of the action you want to commit to (i.e swinging your sword), not the actual registration of your button press. But yeah you get it

>>715698554
>just watch all the logos and endure a loading screen every time your doorbell rings or you have to take a piss
>somehow this is better than being allowed to pause the game
Kill yourself.

>>715699536
Online games don't have pause buttons and they don't want to give you one just because you choose to play it solo. You gotta deal with the lack of a pause button like everyone else, no special treatment for you faggot.

>>715697065 (OP)
In lords of the fallen you can enter photo mode to pause the game. I really did appreciate this as I could even stop halfway through a boss fight to take a piss

>>715697065 (OP)
Judging by how janky the online functionality in every souls game is, I'm guessing pausing would just fuck up online somehow. They probably just removed the feature so it doesn't break online and they can just say it's part of the challenge or whatever. Now the doorbell is the real boss.

>>715699679
What if I turn off and ignore all the online modes? You know, like how Miyazaki said is a perfectly valid way to play.

>>715699779
Why should you get special treatment for doing that? Why include QoL features that actively dissuade players from playing the game with online features? Miyazaki doesn't add a pause button because he's fucking smart.

>>715699872
Huh? The online functionality in the game is 100% optional. And the lack of the pause button doesn’t dissuade anyone from playing online. Perhaps if Miyazaki wanted to strong-arm everyone into the online modes, he shouldn’t have made it optional, anon-kun.

>>715698554
Quitting and loading game is kinda broken since it resets enemy positions and allows you to escape bossfights. Allowing you to pause instead of allowing you to just nope out of fights would make the games better.

>>715699772
>Judging by how janky the online functionality in every souls game is, I'm guessing pausing would just fuck up online somehow.
This. Its not a game design decision. It’s a technical limitation because of the shitty netcode or the engine or something

>>715699996
The lack of a pause button is strong-arming? Get real dude, Miyazaki's whole shtick is to provide players with an even playing field, giving solo players the ability of pausing 50 times during boss battles to compose themselves, evaluate their strategy or swap out gear etc would be unfair.

>>715697065 (OP)
I don't remember him ever mentioning it, but looking at how the games are built I can see it being yet another device to make the games more immersive.

>>715700329
I never heard people pausing in any other games during fights lol. Why would these games be any different?

>>715697065 (OP)
its roll slop
heh bet this makes you dislike the game now huh? ;)

>>715697203
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>>715698918
There's no pause because of the online functions, you retards.

>>715700329
No Im saying if he wanted to strong-arm people then he wouldn’t have made multiplayer optional, implying that he did not want to.

Just disable pause during boss fights, even that is a bad idea imo. Your arguments for fairness don’t add up because players create their own rules. When Elden first launched people were saying that you didn’t really beat a boss if you used a summon for example.

>>715700473
what about when you dont play online

>>715700423
if you want to change spells in AI Limit you have to hardswap them, and entering the menu in that game pauses it.
i would say that it is AIL's one mechanical failing.

This is why CoD is a better series. They have both single and online features but implemented a pause button since the beginning something that these backwards lazy Japs can't bother to do.

>>715700650
>This is why CoD is a better series
Jesus Christ this place is full of unironic retards now, how did it all go so wrong?

>>715700748
CoD, FIFA, and Asscreed isn't far off from soulsslop in terms of soulless yearly releases.

The Souls series has always had a litany of questionable design decisions, and the only reason people forgive them is because the series came out during the peak of the “cinematic, linear shooter” era, and it was something unique by comparison.

Miyazaki is a one trick pony, and got extremely lucky when he released his game.

>>715700885
get the fuck out.

>>715700748
Firstly, you’re a posing newshitter if you didn’t catch his ironic shitposting. Secondly, to answer your question, the site went to hell in 2016 (election tourists) then took its final nosedive in 2020 (covid)

I hope the soulsslop era fucking dies soon.

>>715699401
Outside of arcade games, very few notable games didn't allow you to pause from 3rd gen and onward.

Online features

Next question

>>715701101
i and millions of other players turned off online because miyazaki designed the game to be perfectly playable either way

next excuses

>>715700972
He’s not wrong. It’s genuinely the same thing every time.

If anything, it might be worse since at least CoD and AC go for different settings, plots and tones for each entry, whereas Souls is always “post-apocalyptic grimdark fantasy world with cryptic lore where everyone is a literal zombie and can’t truly die”.

Miyazaki can only tell one story.

>>715700521
Quit to menu retard.

Souls games are actually excellent at autosaving, unless you are in a boss fight you will always load back exactly where you were with the world in the exact state you left it, right down to the broken boxes

>>715700950
>litany of questionable design decisions

Thats saying it nicely kek

because otherwise you would just pause during invasions and disconnect
and this is someone from someone who hates invasion mechanics

>>715701291
>Quit to menu retard.

No. Pause is better in every single way and has been standard in games since the 80s. Stop sucking his dick you fucking empty headed dumb fuck.

>>715700650
Based. I swear there's more good CoD games than there are good Fromsoft ones which are only Demon's and first Dark Souls if we're being honest.

>>715701373
maybe play another game? i dont like souls games so i just dont play them

>>715701521
I love Souls games. But not having a pause is retarded. You realize that you can criticize things you like, right?

I haven’t showered in a week because Elden Ring doesn’t have a pause button

>>715701561
so would you be willing to give up invasions for a pause feature?

>>715701561
>baby needs a pause button

Go play hello kitty island adventure you underaged faggot

>>715700473
Quick, show this retard any multiplayer game with a pause function. I'll start:

>>715701643
No. If you play online, pause should be disabled. If you play offline, pause should function normally.

>>715701769
yes but these games are sort of hybrids so it would require you to select offline play to get the pause function

>>715701643
Why would you need to? Just disable being invaded while the game is paused. There are already parts of the game where you can't be invaded and they were clearly able to do that without removing invasions as a whole.

>>715701269
>at least CoD and AC go for different settings, plots and tones for each entry
You say that, but those franchises became rote and predictable more than a decade ago and have not changed up at all since then.

>Miyazaki can only tell one story
This statement of yours means literally nothing, you fucking retard.

>>715701675
NOOOO THAT'S AN EXPLOIT IT DOESN'T COUNT IT DOESN'T COUNT

>>715697065 (OP)
he wanted to be edgy. no pee breaks or looking up how to kill the boss while youre in game.

>>715702047
>implying you cant just do that at a campfire

>>715701831
Correct. You can start the games in offline mode. And even if you do start in online mode, you can disable invasions. This is not a hack or a sort of screwy workaround for players to avoid online functionality. It is a legitimate design decision, online play is not mandatory.

>>715701881
Soulsslop became stagnant after PTDE dropped. The novelty worn off and Miyazaki can't write for shit and the games get undeserved sales and praise by the same retards who eat up FIFA or sportball games.

>>715702269
There's no overlap on that Venn diagram.

>>715697065 (OP)
>at risk for invasion
>invader cant do shit because you paused
that's why

>>715702310
>normie retards who want the catch up with the next FOMO like goycattle
Yes there is.

>>715701831
I'm sure the game can detect if you are or aren't online. It's simple.
>If offline enable the equipment menu to pause the game
Why are you dancing around like this? Even Brood War has a pause feature for online matches.

>>715697065 (OP)
Because it's online. But as other anon said it makes the world feel more immersive along with auto-saving everything. I kind of wish MORE games did this

>>715702352
read the thread

>>715698918
>industry standard

Go play your modern ubislop faggot

>people defending no pause even in offline mode
fromdrones really are some retards lmao

>>715702486
At least they're more innovative and fun than Fromslop garbage.

>>715702384
Let's drop the pretence; You're perpetually butthurt because you got filtered by Margit, right? Or perhaps it was a boss in DS3 or Bloodborne?

Sekiro has pause you retards, it’s obviously because of the invasions and only gimmicks

>>715702547
Literal cultists.

>>715702486
>universally applicable design decisions that have been proven to work time and time again regardless of genre and have basically no downsides
>we should change this just because

Would you also suggest building a car without wheels? Some ideas stick around because they genuinely work and are good. There is no game that would be improved by removing the ability to pause.

>>715702790
You dont get it anon i am more immersed because there is no pause button. You just dont get it because you’re not a real nigga like us

off-topic but what exactly did rr martin do for elden ring kek

>>715697065 (OP)
It's supposed to make the game more challenging, because it forces you to commit to a run. However, I always found it just made the games more tedious than any. I would usually hard quit if there was an emergency and I couldn't find a safe spot.
Nioh 2 is a game in the same genre, starts in online mode, and allows you to pause whenever. So being online isn't a good reason for not allowing it.

>>715697808
You are trying too hard.

>>715703018
You have to give him credit for pulling all those sales figures without lifting a finger to write anything.

>>715703018
helped sell the game with his name. also hype for dark souls 4 was literally all time high. It was a brilliant marketing move to combine those two forces

dont you guys get tired of the same fucking game every single time? you are a zombie in a cursed land knight, everything is shitty and depressing. I played another crabs treasure. the game isnt perfect, but holy shit it was nice to just play something a little different.
its a souls game with some god damn music for a change instead of just sad ambiance, and the tone shifted gradually over the course of the game.

Why should I play darksouls 3 if I have already played 1,2, and elden ring? I have basically experienced the entire game already. gross depressing zombie knight game with permanent sad ambiance until the bombastic boss fight with a hint of opera vocals.

>>715703685
damn okay

>>715703685
That's because it's a cult and the people who enjoyed these games are either psychotic or delusional zoomers who don't know any better.

Why do you need to pause anyway? this is souls slop and the enemies just sit around doing nothing until you walk up.
pretty sure you can go take a shit and you have all the time in the day just just press r1 5 times in a row whenever you are ready

>zoomerss!!!
>kek fucking retard zoomies
>enjoy your slop kids
okay so what games are you big mature (still posting on 4chan) 30+ year old millennials playing that make you so superior

>>715698510
Video games do not do you any harm at all.

I don't get how retards play these games past the first one. They really rushed the first game and it says alot about how they handle shit in the future. Glad I pulled out as soon as I could and saw the disaster that is 2.

>>715697435
word to mouth you retard.

>>715704276
nothing you can post will ever satisfy deranged retards. dont even bother with people like that.
Ive posted here for 15 years and still get called a tourist

>>715697065 (OP)
For the real answer: online co-op

>>715704276
I’m 32, have no idea where the “only zoomers like Souls” thing came from kek Demon Souls came out in fucking 2009

>>715704276
I don't think soulssloppers are equipped to handle better games.

>>715704520
Demon's Souls didn't catch up to most millennials who were busy in college. Zillennials are the only gen to grow up with that souls era. GenZ quickly followed by Bloodborne.

>>715704520
It's a product of the 2010s which most media declined by then with iPhone faggotry and gay practices like dlc and microtransactions. As a millennial there is nothing sentimental nor good about these games unless you grew up with them having no knowledge of harder or better games out there. Anyone above 28 can see right through the lies they sold to the new and upcoming generation at the time. Having to be 30+ and a fan of this slop is embarrassing and outs you to be a manchild.

>>715705157
I wouldn’t call these games sentimental, but do the math. I was 17 in 2009. I’m assuming you’re 28 which would make you 13. You were basically a child and I was a teenager. These games while not my early childhood of course certainly were part of my “growing up” years.

>>715703685
Please tell me this is bait and you are not actually this retarded

>>715705929
You were too old to catch the souls mania which is an early gen z phenomenon. Anyone above the age of 15 were not that impressed with it. It took Dark Souls 3 to really take off since the kids who played the first ones grew to teenhood.

>>715707060
That makes sense. To me they were just more games. Fun but not defining.

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>>715700085
There are mods to pause the game, and besides janky controls they don't break the game

>>715708451
Yeah im aware of the mods. I was more asking about Mitazaki’s design philosophy

>>715697065 (OP)
i like ds1 but every other souls game after is it horrible and ruined gaming lol

>>715704520
Guess which generation grew up in the 2010s and with the later titles. Certainly not millennials.

>>715708945
>ruined gaming
Oh you niggas are so fucking dramatic

i just LOVE getting killed by knights doing 15 hit dragonball z combos while my character moves slow as shit :))))) LOVE elden ring such a well balanced game

nobody in this thread even knows you can actually pause in elden ring, neither the whiners or the people making excuses

>>715712492
How

What does pausing even do anyways
You can literally cheese your way out of boss deaths by just quitting to menu

>>715697065 (OP)
>Why does Miyazaki omit a traditional pause button?
I don't care. Elden Ring ended up exposing how much of a storytelling hack he truly is.

>>715712842
That ship sailed since Dark Souls 3.

>>715712596
open the equipment menu, then press select and choose "menu explanation". completely pauses the game. don't think it works online for obvious reasons

>>715712492
>>715713198

>>715714971
This is dumb kek why not just make a regular pause then

>>715716154
For lore purposes

>>715712842
But the Elden Ring story is amazing. You’re just a dummy