it made OG obsolete

>>715705109 (OP)
Unironically.

>enemies dont have footsteps
fucking shit game fuck your demake

>>715705109 (OP)
i liked most of it but interloper got boring

Both the OG and fan remake are 10/10, provide differing experiences and are completely capable of co-existing.
Anyone who believes otherwise is retarded.

>>715705109 (OP)
>turns the annoying but short xen in overly long marathon
yeah thanks no

>>715705109 (OP)
It just doesn't feel the same. The sections with soldiers feel awful in the remake.

>only good remake in gaming history besides resident evil 1
>made by some modders
grim shit, honestly. industry is so deeply fucked they cant compete with modders doing it for free

>>715705109 (OP)
Definitely a labor of love. I enjoyed the new Xen, but I'm not sure if the biome matches what the original creators had in mind. The Gonarch fight is a much better, more challenging and fun experience. If you're a faggot zoomer with a short attention span, Black Mesa is a great introduction to the Half-Life universe.

>>715705109 (OP)
No, it's a pale shadow in comparison. But I'm not surprised a lot of people still prefer it, when you consider that shit like modern God of War and Horizon sells

>>715705862
based non-tribal chad. this is the attitude this board needs to adopt more in general.

>for no reason whatsever gives you the shotgun later literally just right past the part of office complex designed for close range combat and when the shotgun is the most fun to use in the game
I don’t get it

>>715705109 (OP)
It's a proof that remakes should only be made by fans that actually love the original game

>>715706214
It was unplayable for years, i haven’t touched it since its beta but it was miserable pre being on steam.
Every marine had like pinpoint accuracy so you would just get melted across the room unless you stutter step cover shooter it up the entire time

>>715705109 (OP)
I love it but Interloper is way too fucking long

Just play the original, half life is not a clunky game. Its right when games actually became so much easier with understandable control schemes.
This is not ultima 3 lol

Agree, can we also agree that Hazardous Course 2 is the best HL1 mod/map?

>>715706797
I really wanna give it a shot but I also don't want to re-introduce anger management issues into my life.

>>715707029
It's very difficult, but the amount of secrets and the way you need to master the game mechanics / physics to get to them is just peak

>>715705862
I haven't played either.
Should I play both in some order or just play one?

>>715706797
I played it years ago. Does it work with the 25th anniversary update or do I need to roll back?

>>715706214
Ocarina 3D was good too.

>>715707196
Play the authentic OG of anything that has a "remake." People can say what they want about "muh graphics," but there are always going to be changes that weren't the original intention. Whether it be colors, lighting, textures, dialogue, story, engine, bugs, glitches etc. It's best to play the original and see what the games were like when white people made them. If you enjoyed the OG, then consider the remake at your own leisure from the perspective of fans.

>>715707250
ocarina was a remaster t b h

>>715707247
Yeah, it works fine

>>715705109 (OP)
I really don't think so. I've played through the original HL several times and always enjoyed it. I've tried playing Black Mesa twice and dropped it after about an hour both times. Maybe it's a pacing issue, but the experience just isn't fun.

>>715705109 (OP)
Darksydephil said it was bad, filled with bugs and jankyness

>>715708824
He's probably right, but don't take that retard seriously. He's one of the dumbest ragebaiting players I've ever seen, and his words are far from gospel.

>>715705109 (OP)
My PC is finally good enough to play this, how is Xen?

>>715710642
Too long and repetitive, and doesn't feel half as alien as what was in the original. Also, I hope you like power-cable puzzles

>>715705109 (OP)
>it's 30GB
lol

>>715705109 (OP)
A good game, I wouldn't say it replaces the original but both deserve to be played, the only thing that bothers me is how stupidly dark everything is, it seems more Left 4 Dead 1 than Half Life.

>>715705109 (OP)
It is kino

>makes xen twice as long as the other levels combined
Whoever thought that was a good idea needs to be neutered

>>715712258
You don't get it. It's a meme to complain about Xen, so they had to change it and make it worse

>>715705109 (OP)
they're completely different experiences, retard

They're different games, but I prefer the original.
- BM soldiers feel like Quake bots, always strafing left and right while firing with pinpoint accuracy.
- both games have an horrible level for different reasons, and that level is Interloper. The original had the free-for-all arena with no ammo, while BM is an almost 2-hour slog full of braindead puzzles and shooting galleries. They made a bad level even worse. Imagine reaching the conveyor belts and realizing you're not even halfway through the level.

>better than alyx
>better than the base game
It's legit the only way I play 2 now

>>715705862
based griller
love em both in their own ways

>>715708747
You dodged a bullet because the Xen section starts in an awesome way, but suddenly becomes a 4~5 hour marathon to go through. I'm probably exaggerating, but it really feels like half of your total playtime is spent on Xen. It reminds me of Turok 2, which starts good, but after 2 levels, every level is 3 hours long.

>>715705109 (OP)
I really wish it would get ported to VR. HL2 and Alyx are kino in VR.

>>715705825
Interloper was shit in the original but I'll agree that Interloper was one of the levels that didn't need an extension.

>>715714374
There's a janky mod version for HL2VR made using the old 2012 version before Steam Greenlight let them charge money for future versions of the mod
it's pretty buggy and jank though, especially with how they had to work around a lack of required NPC and weapons code + other entities

>>715705109 (OP)
It runs like shit

>>715706465
>gamers
>being rational

>>715707196
Always play the original first, even if the remake of it is good

>>715708747
It is a pacing issue of a sort, since BM very much uses HL2 as a blueprint. While HL feels more like an adventure where at times you might struggle for progress, BM feels like a theme-park ride. Even HL2 suffers from that same issue, but at least Valve knew how to keep things varied. BM sticks too close to the original's level design to pull that off. It's kind of trapped between worlds, in a sense

>>715714237
They're only 3 hours long if you get lost. Thankfully the masterful level design makes that completely impossible