Is the Steam version of Romancing Saga 2 good? I haven't played this series at all.

Yes, it's a really good entry for beginners. Game's standalone, you don't miss anything by starting with it.
Be aware though that the game has some extreme motion blur which you can't turn off through the in-game settings, but there's a very easy fix for it here
https://steamcommunity.com/app/2455640/discussions/0/4691154443773771235/

>>715725451 (OP)
Yes, one of my favorite games from last year.

>>715725451 (OP)
>try to make sure my original team never dies
>game time skips so that it doesnt matter

Eh... does this shit happen again?

It's literally the only Saga game with good gameplay

>>715726012
If you mean timeskips, then yeah, it's one of the main mechanics of the game.
>become emperor
>do a couple quests
>timeskip
>choose new emperor
>repeat

That remake is made for people who don't like the series and isn't even made by the actual people behind the series, go play the original

>>715726358
retard

>>715726080
it's weakness spam gauge slop for octopath audience. the only good thing about the remake is that underneath the garbage its skeleton is still RS2, a venerated classic. stripped of its essence the remake is just straight up 4/10.

>>715726358
>>715726698
Explain both sides of this argument further please.

>>715725451 (OP)
Fantastic, full recommend. Only downside is the repetitive audio.

>>715728659
a schizo decided to latch onto this game for some reason and shits his pants whenever it is mentioned

Unlimited SaGa chads, it'll be our turn soon.

>>715728768
now count all the players who say it's the only good saga game or the only saga game they have played. a huge chunk of the fanbase is tourists and if they get to say what makes a good saga game then the series is done.

>>715729358
>then the series is done
if it makes you that upset to wage an imaginary war against this game for almost a year then that's fine

>>715729624
and you'll suffer the same fate later on when the formula that you found appealing gets changed so they can get the next set of players through the revolving door fanbase. that's the fate of all series that abandon their base.

>>715725451 (OP)
Genuinely the best JRPG i've played last year and it wasn't even close.

>>715728659
It's a super casualized demake that changed nearly all longstanding core mechanics into a bastardized version of themselves, including changing or outright erasing core mechanics that made sense narratively in the original and no longer make sense now
It was a low effort cashgrab for roping in casuals who don't really care about the series, especially people who played the Octopath games since it uses most of the same mechanics as octopath now instead of playing like a SaGa game
Also this>>715729358, you see the same shit in this place where a retard tries to silence all sort of criticism by pretending it's just one person who dislikes this game

>>715730098
cry about it

>>715725451 (OP)
I liked it, and apparently enough people did since the RS3 remake is in development.

>>715730098
Where do you recommend somebody get into the series then?

>>715730060
yeah, the SaGa "formula" never once changed until the RS2 remake. Not even a little bit.

>>715730417
this one

>>715730417
Pick whatever looks interesting to you and play it, even if most of the core mechanics are the same thoughout the series all games try different things, RS2 has the generation system, the GB games are simple dungeon crawlers with racial mechanics, RS1 and RS3 have open ended progression with multiple main characters, SF1 mixes the GB setting with RS' open ended structure etc.

Every single SaGa game is good.

>>715730710
I actually did play and finish FF Legend as a kid, but I didn't know until pretty recently that that was a Saga game. I didn't even have a Game Boy but my best friend let me borrow his for a while. It was fun back then but probably not what I'm looking for now. RS2 does look cool but I'm disappointed that it's been casualized. I never played Persona before this year and I played P3 Reload and realized I probably fucked up and should have played the original.

>>715730098
What mechanics did they change from the original then?

>>715730060
you won't do shit :)

>>715731147
You can't do this in the original:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05Mzp80qTEk

>>715730417
with Saga Frontier, of course.

>>715731147
The entire attribute system, how BR works, spell learning, spell research, it's faster to say what they didn't change since even most of the techs and spells in the game have been changed and entire questlines have been changed as well

>>715725451 (OP)
better question. what Saga games are worth playing on the vita?

it's very good, it was my first saga game last year and I loved it. disregard the contrarian faggots saying it's not good

>>715731416
The two remasters, SSG got a full upgrade with Ambitions so the original Vita version is irrelevant now

>>715730476
the gameplay in saga games is always built for the specific needs that the game has. theres always some kind of goal to the systems and how they interact with each others. the remake isnt like that. they added in "time line battles". why? because EB had that. do they do anything interesting with it. not really. it's just there to telegraph epic enemy attacks. and show what combos you can do. compare to the minstrel song remake where the combat is a roided mix of frontier 1&2 and unlimited carefully weaving in mechanics from those games.

>>715731325
I played it on PS1 and got raped and gaped no matter what I tried. Clearly I was doing something wrong but never figured out what.

>>715731416
>better question
Hey fuck you buddy

>>715731515
Alright thanks bro!
>>715731762
don't hate the player.

>>715731581
went to the laboratory? Found dullahans?

>>715731581
I strongly recommend the remastered version, it's harder to get lost and fixes some cut content.

>>715732046
But is it casualized goyslop?

>turn-based JRPG
>there's a jump button
sold

>>715732265
you don't have surprise game overs anymore due to autosave and you can run from battles but otherwise not really, it still kicks ass

>>715732265
>casualized
no, the difficulty is the same BUT it makes it easier to tell what level of difficulty you're at through the menu and NG+ options
>goyslop
There is slight censorship of the Turnip calling Asellus a "retard", he calls her stupid instead. T260G is also referred in a plural sense throughout the game, despite implications that she's a female robot.
Both of these have fixes btw: https://steamcommunity.com/app/1295270/discussions/0/3109152828470789227/

>>715732496
That's a cool watch shame it's 300 fucking dollars.

>>715732265
It's largely unchanged coming from the original, even all of the exploits and good glitches the original game had are still there, only real difference is that the game warns you about points of no returns or some of the more obscure quest triggers now and you can run away from fights.
It actually adds a lot of cut content too and has a much better NG+ function, you can trust all the SaGa remasters.

>>715732496
they also censored t260g final boss name which is called GenocideHeart

>>715732265
>>715732496
well you can run from battles and the enemies disappear so it is a bit more casual now, T260G is a "them" now which sounds pozzed but it's still the best way to play it because of Fuse's scenario, also I appreciate the updated graphics since now I can understand what the fuck I'm fighting

>>715732648
The remakes are good too just in their own way. It's a shame minstrel song is overshadowed by it's sequel.

>>715731515
wait which are the remasters? on pkgj I only see romancing saga 2, 3 and SSG

>>715732757
The only reason why there was no run function in the original is because they didn't know how to work around memory swaps, it wasn't a conscious design decision like in the later games

>>715733297
Romancing SaGa 2 Remastered
Romancing SaGa 3 Remastered
SaGa Frontier 1 Remastered
SaGa Frontier 2 Remastered
Minstrel Song Remastered
SaGa Scarlet Grace Ambitions

There's also the Collection of SaGa bundle for the original SaGa 1-2-3 trilogy, but that's more of a straight port with some minor QoL and a less shitty localization

It's been so long since I played the remaster. Your party still took LP damage when downed, right? It felt like LP death was barely a concern in Revenge of the Seven, since it seemed like downed party members were unaffected by further attacks. Though maybe it was just because RS2 remaster was my first experience with the series and I hadn't yet adjusted to its quirks.

>>715734057
Yeah, RoTS also removed LP damage when downed coming from the original.

>>715734057
>Your party still took LP damage when downed, right?
Yes. aoe attacks hit downed party members. and some undead monsters would specifically single target dead party members.