both companies are japanese, so yes

>>715758592 (OP)
Tendiebros....

>>715758592 (OP)
>see someone selling a product that competes with yours
>file for a patent that specifically targets their product
>sure them over it
only in japan would something this ridiculous actually have legs to stand on in a court room
everywhere else nintendo would be told to fuck off

here's the engagement you are so desperate for.

Japan's entire industry is so fucking weird and cringe
of all the stupid fucking retard moves Nintendo have made over the past few decades, it's this case that really takes the cake

all I care about i booba

>758592
Both are slants you retard. Jesus. Hope this half (you) will delay your suicide date for atleast a day or two.

>>715759101
one is the righteous slant tho

>>715758592 (OP)
honestly nintendo needs to go fuck itself, same with anyone who does patent trolling

>>715758592 (OP)
>file patents AFTER the game you're trying to sue came out
>change the patents DURING the lawsuit for good measure
yeeeaaah this isn't a good look for nintendo

How can that be? People here assured me Nintendo would win ezpz and Palworld devs would go under?

>>715758942
nintendo mafia is too strong in japan

I honestly think if pocketpair was based in america, europe or china that nintendo wouldnt even bother.

i don't get it. why would they even need to file a patent after the fact? isn't it blatantly obvious that palworld aped the shit out of pokemon? you shouldn't need a patent to prove that, especially when it's one of the biggest IPs on the planet. this shit makes no sense.

OHNONONONO TENDIEBROS....

>>715759421
>isn't it blatantly obvious that palworld aped the shit out of pokemon

digimon, temtem and yokai watch all did it harder than palworld, the difference is that palword is GOOD

>>715759421
>i dont have a case
>i know let's retroactively put stupid shit in after the filing, i will have a case then!

Well well well...

Jag the Luxray in shambles

>>715759659
this thing is so hot
why

>>715758592 (OP)
If Pocketpair ends up winning this case, imagine how funny it would be if they then proceeded to create a new IP and character named in honor of their lawyer who helped them win the case.

>>715759659
Imagine the braps...

>>715758592 (OP)
Please understand, Nintendo lost billions with literally every switch 1 console sale being used for pirating. They're just barely making it by. They need to recoup any loses wherever possible

>>715758592 (OP)
I just realized that nintendo inflated the cost of the switch 2 and their games to fund the lawsuit, and when they lose and have to compensate pocketpair for legal fees, they're gonna bump it up even more and blame tariffs.

>>715760527
Sounds a bit too conspiracy, but also seems stupid enough to be true

>>715759036
I know discussions like this tend to devolve into dumb consolewar faggotry & third grade insults, but really you could fill a whole book of the dumb, autistic shit that nintendo's pulled over the years. I remember one of the Mario Movie actors (Charlie Day, I think?) saying that the recordings were so secretive that none of the VA's got context to their lines, so they just repeat the same line 50 times with wildly different inflictions.

>>715760527
Boy you are fucking stupid.

bump

>>715760527
Cute post.

>>715758592 (OP)
>changes the gliding patent mid lawsuit
Nintendo really fucked up this time

>>715758942
nintendo is like a religion to those childless manchildren in japan, and shitskin spicjeet weebs around the world love sucking tiny jap cock so you see them unironically defend sloptendo

>>715758592 (OP)
>the slants
nigga they both slants

>>715758592 (OP)
Whats the hail mary?

>>715759421
what patents have been copied, spicjeet?

>>715759476
this
you don't see jeetendo going after yokai or digimon because those are flop franchises
they only go after palworld because not only is it successful, but also managed to be received positively by gamers unlike bug-ridden pokeslop

>>715764723
Rewrote the patents midcase to be more vague and rely on more emotional language, apparently.

>>715758592 (OP)
People should have bought other monster collector games, pokemon shouldn't be a genre itself.
>>715759476
Pokemon is a c-tier monster collector game. You just want the market flooded with pokemon clones.

>>715758592 (OP)
legal expert here, Nintendo already won, this is just a way for them to give P*lworld one last chance of taking their ""game"" offline.

>>715764986
Legitimately moving the goalposts lmao
Fuck nintendo

>>715760527
do palkeks really?

>>715764893
>S/V was garbage
>Let's play an slop unreal engine rusk clone instead. That'll show them!
I hope they both lose

>>715759421
I'm pretty sure digimon predates pokemon
captcha
VP X DAT

>>715764986
>changing it is an admission of guilt
I guess Nintendo admitted they don't have a case then

>>715765106
>dragon quest invented bats
This is the most retarded image

>>715759476
>the difference is that palword is GOOD
Not even good, "Successful" is a better word. The fact that it was as big as it was has nintendo going full tard-rage on them.

>>715758685
Good

>>715760527
>The company with a 40 billion dollar war chest needs 10-50 million (on the high end) for a lawsuit
Bro

>you will live to see Nintendo die in your lifetime.

>>715759101
sonic fans know how to move, I'll give them that

If nintendo wins this'll just be yet another "nintendo uses lawfare to shut down things they don't like", which isn't very interesting. It's just more of the same.

If they lose this will be extremely fucking funny, and if it opens it up for more pokemon knockoffs, that'll be hilarious. So I hope they lose.

I can't believe the Almighty Nintendo is about to lose to these dudes

>>715765293
>I'm pretty sure digimon predates pokemon
>captcha
>Digimon: 1997
>pokemon: 1996
Even if you want to go with Tamagotchi pokemon still comes first.
>Tamagotchi: November 96
>pokemon: February 96
If you're going to be against something at least get your facts right.

>>715758592 (OP)
hopefully jewtendo loses hard

>>715758592 (OP)
I find it funny that not only are people making a big deal out of a regular occurrence in patent cases but they're complaining about a single "when" being turned to "if".

>>715759476
Palworld isn't even good even in the monster collecting genre. It's just a slightly more streamed lined Ark that happens to have monsters you can summon like its Pokemon.

>>715765891
At the very least they're close enough that there's no way Bandai ripped off Pokemon

>>715764986
>>715765197
>>715765330
>palcucks don't know what a subpatent is

>>715760780
Nothing wrong with that, the issue is when you give no context but take the first take like Oblivion.

>>715766120
Nigga shut up, if I wanted to hear an UM ACTUALLY I would be on /qa/. Choke yourself.

>>715759421
>isn't it blatantly obvious that palworld aped the shit out of pokemon?
I'm still surprised that the 180 year old trillion dollar company pussed out via a lawsuit instead of just making their own Survival Crafting Pokemon game but better.

>>715766120
Admission of guilt

>>715766120
>Tendies don't what a patent is

>>715758592 (OP)
Someone needs to tell Trump that Nintendo is filing patents that they COULD use on American companies like Microsoft and Activision, so he can make a massive twitter rant threatening to slap a 500 percent tariff on Japan and threatening to ban Nintendo from the US market entirely.

I just wanna see the fireworks.

>>715765857
>they added guns to it because "Americans like to shoot things"
They got their fingers on the pulse, I'll give em that

>>715765891
>Megami Tendai: 1987
That's the real one they're ripping off

If anyone is confused by this basically in Japanese patent court there's a move that's called "the little bitch move" where you can both call the patent into question and claim that they aren't infringing without actually providing an argument as to why. It's nothing more than a stall move but that's what pocketpair did, Colopl also did this when they were being sued.

In any case Nintendo basically has to review and fix their shit for the next phase of the trial now which is what's happening. The alteration however doesn't functionally change anything about the patent. >>715766391

>>715766259
Nintendo's probably getting tired of the rip off accusations

>>715766391
Patents are regional you retard and it would negatively impact America, not Nintendo.

>>715758592 (OP)
Anon they are both slants

>>715766568
>"the little bitch move" where you can both call the patent into question and claim that they aren't infringing without actually providing an argument as to why
Thats a standard defense against infringement worldwide
The onus is on the patent holder to prove a violation.

>>715766568
Makes me wonder why they even bothered if things are going this badly for them.
Maybe they were just butthurt over the Pokemon leaks and needed to put the blame one someone.

>>715766568
I'm sure tampering with evidence doesn't functionally change anything

>>715766696
They're fixing it like they fix their recent games.

Nintendo gettin fucked

Nintendo gettin fucked

She ont look pretty better go for the butt

>>715766615
Yes? Cunt did you think I'm legitimately saying to bring it to Trump to save the day? I flat out said it would just be for the comedy, retard.

>>715759476
so we're just gonna pretend digimon and yokai watch has dozens of NotLucario, NotLycanroc, etc like palworld?

>>715766689
>Makes me wonder why they even bothered if things are going this badly for them.
Oh it's not going badly at all, all of Pocketpair's counters and examples of prior art were basically shot down since they were arguing concept and not mechanic like so many people here do. Anyway when someone uses the bitch move the opposition is essentially forced to revise everything. It's like the court equivalent of Raigeki.

>>715764893
>you don't see jeetendo going after yokai or digimon because those are flop franchises
By that logic palworld flopped too since it hasn't hasn't hit their level yet.

>>715759421
Because the designs in Palworld are different enough that copyright lawsuit case is too easy to be dismissed. Patent on the other hand is easier to prove in court.

>>715766857
>the concept of innocent until proven guilty is a bitch move
Maybe in Japan's backwards ass legal system

>>715758942
>trailer for pokemon with guns released and is freely available to view for years
nintendo sleeps
>pokemon with guns gets a release date
nintendo sleeps
>pokemon with guns sells gangbusters
real litigation hours

>>715766820
>two bipedal dogs, two generic wolves, two spheres with eyes

Nintendo never took them to court over monster plagiarization because they have no case. When is Alf and Meg suing Pretendo for stealing their wolf designs with Lycanroc???

>>715766013
What does it say that Nintendo finds this threatening

>>715765541
If you genuinely think this lawsuit is going to kill Nintendo you are delusional.

Revenge status?

>>715767017
It's not innocent until proven guilty it's "I'm innocent because I said I am the evidence doesn't mean shit, get more"

>>715758592 (OP)
Nintendo losing is a double-edged sword. We're about to be LEGALLY flooded with shovelware clones like those phone knockoff games that are designed to make kids accidentally tap microtransactions every few seconds, TRANNY

>>715767057
Just a reminder, none of these mechanics actually show up in the original trailers.

>>715767107
>to make kids accidentally tap microtransactions

yeah it's not like jewtendo makes you pay a subscription to take your pokemon from old games into new ones or anything STUPID NIGGER

>>715766204
>>715766274
>>715766354
>AIEEE PALSISTERS

>>715766259
It's especially weird when they have the groundwork already done with BotW.
Don't even need all pokemon, just pick some from past gens, announce some back to the roots shit (worked for BotW and it was a blatant lie), keep it simple

>>715767312
You know, that's the exact same thing everyone said about Palworld.

>>715767102
It's not "I'm innocent because", it's "you're guilty because".
There is no proving innocence, unless your legal system is ass backwards. Demanding proof of innocence is the bitch move

>>715767057
I mean yeah. Pocket pairs first game ripped a lot off BOTW, but Nintendo doesn't care because it didn't sell very well.

>>715767453
>it's "you're guilty because I've presented valid evidence implicating you".
You forgot the rest of that sentence.
>There is no proving innocence
Yes, proving innocence is why court exists you know.

>>715766391
Why are we still talking about Gunpei? The guy was a bum who crashed because he can't drive. We once had a lunch together and he drove there, it was just horrible. He also couldn't handle the booze.
The Gameboy was genius sure, but then he got upset because he couldn't hack it with the Virtual Boy. I've been telling him "no, it's not a good idea" but he got angry and then he left to make some bootleg Gameboy. Just sad.
But now people keep bringing him up even though his alleged assassination was made up by Segay and Broke Bandai

If nintendo loses, indie devs will not have to fear the tyrant anymore.
If nintendo wins, a full genre dies.

>>715767107
>Nintendo losing is a double-edged sword.
No, it is not.
Also, kids don't play pokemon games.

>>715767613
>Yes, proving innocence is why court exists you know.
Proving guilt actually.
You can't prove a "nothing"
This is literally the first shit they teach you in Law 101, retard.

>>715767495
Thing is, they couldn't because they would have to prove that the assets were stolen and that's harder to do than proving a patent simply because you don't have to present the assets used as the defendant and it's ultimately down to opinion.
Mechanics are a fact though, either it is or isn't.

>>715767629
Other way around, if Nintendo wins there's nothing to worry about.
If pocket pair wins then the tyrant here can continue to freely steal ideas from indie developers

>>715766259
Gamefreak can't make a functional calculator, they're not going to be making Survival Crafting Pokemon but better this century.

Every time I see one of these threads it is always full of the most brain damaged argumentation repeated ad nauseum.
I always see a post and I'm like "I should tell that guy he's a retard" and then see 5 other posts before and after it that are equally as stupid.

>>715766259
Nintendo can't make good games period. All of their sales are purely nostalgia driven.

>>715767753
>Nintendo
>Gamefreak
>Small little indie dev uwu

Fuck off you faggot.

>>715759421
my theory is they did that because of Sony and microsoft meddling
Like, it didn't take long after Palworld reached 18 million players for Microsoft to put it on gamepass and keep it there for WAY longer than other indie games, or how Sony was quick to make a subdivision dedicated to palworld media
both companies saw the potential in turning Palworld into their own "Pokemon mania" and nintendo went for the throat trying to kill it BEFORE it blew up even more

>>715767697
>You can't prove a "nothing"
Problem is that innocence isn't a nothing.
For example if you provide evidence that you were on the other side of town when a murder you were blamed for took place you've proven your innocence.

You're acting as if you're trying to prove something doesn't exist which of course would be impossible but in court you're gunning for contradictions and truths which exist regardless

>>715767904
Why are you calling Nintendo and GF indie devs exactly?

>>715767907
>Like, it didn't take long after Palworld reached 18 million players for Microsoft to put it on gamepass
Anon, it was on gamepass day one. In fact MS paid for timed console exclusivity before the game launched.

>>715767096
>tendie seething that his precious bing bong wahoo company is going under
palchads keep winning

>>715767960
Are you dyslexic, autistic, trolling, or just severely retarded?

>>715767960
Not that anon but by the way your post is structured and nintendo/gamefreak being the ones "directly" involved in the conflict where supposedly they got their "ideas" stolen, youre implying nintendo/gamefreak are indie developers.

>>715768093
So you just called them indie devs for no reason.

>>715767256
Download one of those Chinese knock offs and see they're not the same, FAGGOT COCK SUCKER

>>715767909
How exactly are you meant to prove you didn't violate a patent?
Other than showing your design documents don't contain the word Pokemon

>NOOOOOO YOU HAVE TO ALLOW CHINKOIDS TO STEAL ASSETS FROM NINTENDO AND COBBLE TOGETHER A SHITTY GAME ALONG WITH UE STORE ASSETS!!!!!!
FOTM sloppers BTFO.

>>715768280
>both are japanese
>"CHINK CHINK CHINK"
So this is what "mindbroken" looks like?
It is... pitiful.

>>715767909
>For example if you provide evidence that you were on the other side of town when a murder you were blamed for took place you've proven your innocence.
Incorrect.
If I'm accused of murder, I don't have to do shit. By default I am innocent, it is the prosecutions job to prove that I was
1) There
2) Had a reason to do it
3) Am connected to enough of the evidence directly linked to the murder, that I almost certainly did it.

Even if I was on the other side of town during the murder, and had proof of such, I wouldn't have to provide it, because they wouldn't be able to connect me to the crime. You only provide that evidence, as to not waste everyone's time and money.

>>715768159
No. I'm saying that pocketpair regularly steals from indie developers and the one time they didn't they were sued because they didn't know patents existed.

>>715758592 (OP)
is it still the not-pokeball thing or did nintendo managed to find something else to try and fuck the palworld devs over?

>>715768191
Ah, all of the above. Thanks for clarifying.

>>715766195
It is wrong. It's a level of paranoia over something that rarely happens.

>>715768369
>I don't have to do shit
Then you're going to be deemed guilty since the only evidence that exists implicates you. Innocent until proven guilty doesn't mean you can sit there and not do anything, you still have to prove the case against you isn't valid.

>>715766820
Nintendo is not suing Pocketpair over this specifically because it obviously isn't an infringement. Why would they go for esoteric gameplay patents if they could just destroy them over IP theft? The answer is simply because they aren't remotely enough evidence to bring a case (which everyone who isn't retarded knows).

>>715758592 (OP)
>tons of blatant Pokemon clones over the years
>i sleep
>a blatant Pokemon clone, but successful
>AAAAAAIIIIEEEEEEEE NOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T DO THAAAAAAT
How shameless.

>>715767495
I'm still mad that Craftopia runs like dogshit, and barely gets updated. clearly a botw cash grab, but had promise.

>>715768610
>Why would they go for IP theft if they could just destroy them over IP theft?
Gee I wonder why.
Your corporate cock sucking for Pocketpair aside it's because even if it is blatant copyright infringement you can still lose because it's ultimately a matter of opinion if you can't prove that they took the assets and to prove that you would have to get a search warrant, and search wouldn't guarantee they haven't deleted the models they stole.

>>715767697
You are forgetting that "Innocent until proven guilty" is only a philosophical and legal concept in the democratic world
You shouldn't assume that everyone you speak to here is familiar with the idea

>>715768734
No one cares about Canadians.

>>715768519
Guilty means guilty beyond reasonable doubt. Have you ever served on a jury? I have, and you won't get a guilty verdict just because the only evidence is that some hobo says he saw a guy who matches your description

>>715758592 (OP)
>Moving goalposts

>>715768734
Exactly
The only difference between this and all the other ones is that this one made money, and so big daddy tendo decided they had to intervene before they lost anymore of their market stranglehold

>>715768819
>reasonable doubt
Key words, if your dna is found at the scene, say under their fingernails, they're not going to assume they scritched your chin. They're going to say that there was most likely an altercation between you two at the time.
>Have you ever served on a jury? I have,
Then you clearly didn't do a good job did you.

>>715766820
This fucktard thinks Nintendo owns foxes™, wolves™, and jackals™

>>715769198
You're the one saying any evidence is enough to prove guilt. This DNA analogy has nothing to do with what I'm talking about

>>715768519
Then why weren't Pocket Pair found guilty then and there?

>>715758592 (OP)
the defendants are slants too?

>>715759094
Pals have boobs?

>>715758592 (OP)
ATTENTION TENDIES: I am a reputable rope salesman. Given the current situation and demand I am forced to increase my prices by 300%. Thank you for understanding.

>>715769616
because that would take time for a verdict i swear /v/ needs to go to school for law classes hasn't even started trials it's still ongoing for 3 years these are just flagflagging threads to attract the shitflingers

>>715766820
Digimon doesn't have a fox witch, but 3 out of 4.

>>715769767
Coom modders have slapped boobies on a lot of them. Whether they're good or not, I can't say since I don't use those mods.

>>715765740
I want Nintendo to lose because they're just japanese Disney

>>715765740
I genuinely hope Nintendo loses this fight in the most heinous and punitive way possible. Which I realize, even if it happens, is probably next to nothing at all. If any. Still, I feel like courts should have the right to hack off a proverbial arm and leg from big companies for trying to weaponize courts.

>>715758592 (OP)
>still caring about this forced dead meme of yet another failed Pokemon killer
>current year

>>715765857
>I just want to make a game that people like

Absolute, pure, unfiltered soul. He's remembered the one true purpose of video games.

>The actual court proceedings are due in about a year or two
>Nintendo is already desperate and does a "Hail Mary"
Huh?

>>715765287
cope pokejeetpedo
everyone sane knows the lawsuit is bullshit, only spicjeets like you want ninshitdo to win because you shitskins are literal cultists
>>715766904
how did it flop if it managed to get under jeetendo's skin? why didn't your beloved corporation just ignore it if it was irrelevant?

japs suing japs is crazy, youd think they have nationalism to their own kind. This must be the end times.

imagine the gaming world if every major publisher acted like nintendo and just filed whatever nonsense game mechanic patents they could, and if a game was made to the same audience as your game you custom craft a patent to retroactively fit the competing games design?

fuck nintendo fans
what the fuck is wrong with them

why are spicjeets always gargling nintendo's cock? are brown "people" naturally inclined to suck up to corporations?

>>715758592 (OP)
Stop saying mean things about my Nintendad or I'll cry.

>>715768734
pretty much
i bet you if palworld flopped, ninjeetdo wouldn't even have bothered, but it didn't
they panicked when yokai watch became successful too, gen 7 is mostly inspired by it

>>715758592 (OP)
Nintendo is so fucking pathetic Holy Kek

>>715759094
You must love the sexy mods then

>>715773160
ninpedos are a cult, so it's understandable why they would lash out like that
japs are mostly all childless freaks, it's a dying country that's gonna import a bajillion shitskin streetshitter pajeets soon, their new ninjeetdo audience!

>>715766259
>gamefreak making Survival Crafting Pokemon
AHAHAHAHAHA, that would be the buggiest piece of shit PS2 era graphics game ever

>>715765579
Those are professional dancers that think they're just some cartoon characters the kids like. Real Sonic fans do not move.

>>715758592 (OP)
Nintendo should bring up that you can enslave people in the game, get it banned off of Steam for hurting payment processor feelings.

>>715766568
>claim that they aren't infringing without actually providing an argument as to why
Isn't it innocent until proven guilty?

>>715767143
Yeah, they had to see what was actually in the game first so they could file their retroactive patents
Obviously they couldn't do that from a trailer, it would be too risky for too little payoff

>>715770791
>These are examples of digimon copying pokemon
Anubismon came before Lucario
Mojyamon came before tangrowth
Garurumon came before lycanroc

As far as one that looks like Braixen, we have Effecmon perhaps? Not a witch though. Braixen predates that one.

>>715766820
Tendies in the real world can’t stop embarrassing themselves. It’s like Atlusfags that think Persona invented jazz and pyramids

>>715773549
>Garurumon
Huh?

>>715758592 (OP)
The companies and people that produce the most derivative shit are the most insane and ardent proponents of IP law. Nintendo and their thinly veiled Popeye derivative known as Mario are no exception.
>>715758942
The regulations on patents aren't nearly rigorous enough.
Aureal Vs Creative is a good indication for what patents are usually used for: Fucking with your competition while you've got no leg to stand on just because you've got more money than them.

>>715765513
Why dig into the war chest when they don't have to?

>>715759094
>>715769767
Being able to Mod easily put Palworld above ANY pokemon game ever.

>>715773239
>spicjeets
They're all about Sony and Microsoft. They think Nintendo is for babies.

>>715768786
>Corporate cocksucker calling other people corporate cocksuckers for not sucking off his favorite impossibly rich megacorp who are definitely in the right for post-hoc making up random shit to sue their competition over
lmao, you people should have your eyes gouged out

>>715759036
Nintendo not buying Rare is another big mistake

>he couldn't cuddle with their mons
How sad

>>715773695
They did start work on Gamecube games. Dumbass post from a dumbass phoneposter.

>>715773549
HOLY FUCK GAMEFREAK PLAGIARIZED DIGIMON
WE NEED TO KILL THEM NOW!!!

>>715765579
They're latinos, that's cheating.

>>715765857
Now that's how you develop with SOVL.

>>715773719
I was not expecting the addition of unique sleeping or swimming animations for Pals. Truly soulful devs.

>>715773765
>Digimon didn't copy those pokemon
>So your argument is that Gamefreak copied digimon!???
no

>>715765143
They're never gonna stop selling the game. They're just gonna have to make annoying superficial changes every time Nintendo invents a new patent for themselves.
The whole thing is pointless. It's just Nintendo trying to punish someone for competing with them.

>>715773695
serves rare right for selling themselves off to microsoft
their output afterwords, and lets be honest even by the n64 it was showing the cracks, makes it painfully obvious why nintendo never saw a point in try to get into a bidding war over them

>>715773867
I'm not quoting you faggot, I'm pointing out the problem with the argument
It doesn't fucking matter who made a similar design first, either one of them has committed a crime, or it's not plagiarism and thus not relevant and this entire argument is retarded bad faith bullshit engaged in by hopeless corporate shills

>>715773853
Same here. She has the best cuddling animation, too.

>>715773332
there's some pretty goofy ones like the one Jormuntide mod, but there's a good amount of solid sexy mods

>>715774067
Yeah, I still think the Splatterina one is the best

>>715773983
>I'm not quoting you, I'm just using your post to respond to a completely different anon's argument
Ok. I mean there's more nuance to it than what you're saying tho. Palworld's models come dangerously close to Pokemon's as far as the mesh. I'm not really here for that tho so I'll leave that between you guys.

>>715773101
Maybe because anyone with a brain can see every step of this is malicious? Nintendo never had a leg to stand on. It's merely the brokenenss of Japanese patent and copyright law that allows it.

>>715773664
This.
I'll only consider going back to pokemon when they let us mod the mons.

>>715758592 (OP)
Can't The Pokemon Company™ sue them for the concept of cock OBSESSED human LOVING pals?

>>715760780
>going full-NDA schizo
>over the fucking """"story"""" in a Mario movie

lmao that's actually insane.

I like Palworld but I wish they would fucking fix the absolutely dogshit optimization
Makes the game feel absolutely horrible at times
And it feels like its only getting worse

>>715775852
Bestiality predates any form of electronic media. Would be funny to see them try to claim the rights to it.

>>715775951
For me, it's the AI.
It's fine for base pals, but regarding enemies and combat situations, it's an absolute fucking joke.

>>715758592 (OP)
Didn't palworld remove several features in the game due to the lawsuit? How are they winning?

>>715776009
I wish you could give commands honestly
Taking away summon throwing also didn't do combat any favors

>>715775951
Runs mostly fine for me. There is one area where if I'm looking far off into the distance, FPS just fucking tanks which is weird.
>>715776009
Definitely needs a fix. Nothing like summoning your pal and then seeing it fuck off to aggro some npc that aggro'd you but is over 500m away instead of targeting the nearest hostile.

>>715776017
I hope they get those mechanics back and Nintendo has the right to their "own ideas" stripped from them forever.

>>715758685
I thought palworld was made by koreans.

>>715776236
Palworld was literally made by Japanese gas station attendants during their breaks. It is a Japanese-owned company of Japanese employees.

>>715758592 (OP)
You're just deluded, Pocketpair are getting their ass reamed by the big N and removing mechanics from their game.

>>715760527
The tendie shills coming out of the woodwork for this proves you right kek

>>715776017
They actually removed them before they lost the case, or didn't want to contest it, or uhhhh something

>>715758592 (OP)
How dare people make fun of "Americans suing" everyone when fucking Japan exists and does shit like pic related?
I mean one of the biggest examples of "hurr durr Americans dumb!" is them thinking it's a bad idea a granny sued MacDonalds over getting coffee on her that was like fucking lava and permanently damaged her.

>>715775852
Someone post the fake pals that all love humans

>>715776017
>removed
>works on my ps5
Is it because of EU consumer laws that they cannot touch my game?

>>715768734
>blatant
I don't know anon I think that's a bit of a stret-

>>715776532
Nintendo isn't actually raising its popularity with this you know.

>>715765891
Megami Tensei and Dragon Quest 5 have them beat by a fucking mile

>>715776686
Doing the right thing doesn't make you popular

>>715776982
Neither does doing the wrong thing, which is exactly what nintendo is doing.

>>715777054
Yeah it does, the wrong thing would be to let Pocketpair get away with plagiarism. Which you seem to want.

>>715777139
none of them are actually helping anything nintendo doesn't even care about that if they did, they would've gone for a copyright wouldn't they since that would protect artist but thats not the case since their scared of losing their own money all they care about is the money and keeping their brand the highest of profitability

>>715777139
We both know that nintendo is only reacting because they feel threatened by an unexpected competition, plagiarism is just the excuse to shut it down without having to better themselves.

>>715777139
troontendo will fail and you will seethe forever. it was about time somebody beat them at their own game. spokemon games suck dick eternally and they were comfortably collecting their yens for too long.

>>715777268
>>715777295
>>715777302
Nonsense, what you are saying is fanfiction and doesn't reflect historically how Nintendo respond to competition.

>>715777458
Bait used to be more subtle.

>>715777458
then why didn't they sue for copyright i thought Copyright was made to punish plagiarism but i guess that's not the case since they were too scared to do it

>>715777581
The patent suit can remove mechanics of the game or result in the game being removed from sale, whereas suing on copyright would just make Pocketpair change the designs a little or remove some monsters.

>>715777710
You really haven't kept up with this, have you?

>>715777793
I kept up with the court case, i dont keep up with the fanfiction going alongside it sorry so you'll have to inform me what you've imagined up this time.

>>715774385
i mean its clear that they did some fucky ai shit and generated concept art using pokemon designs
but theres no way for nintendo to legally prove that nor is it illegal because all the ai shit is still one big legal grey area

this is why theyre patent trolling out of pure seethe, they know they dont have a case on something that they think they should so theyre just trying to arbitrarily fuck them over
and its putting basically everyone in a really uncomfortable situation because them winning could result in some incredibly heinous legal precedent regarding patents that is basically just a result of nintendos gnashing their teeth over the law not keeping up with technology

>>715758592 (OP)
It's a standard court procedure and the one that secured Nintendo's win over Colopl.

>>715778505
The pure seethe when Nintendo win and Pocketpair abandon the game for their next early access scam will be funny.

>>715778394
Reminder that the only other time Nintendo sued another developer over patent infringement and retards in the west who had zero facts of the case called them patent trolls, it turned out that the sued dev was the patent troll and Nintendo's win saved others from having to pay ransom for using that patent.

I modded katress to have big tiddies

>>715778705
which devs are these are you speaking of

>>715778845
How big?

>>715779193
big enough for me. its the sfw version of sexy katress on nexus

>>715779231
Not big enough for me. But I respect your opinion and preferences.

>>715779323
the wixen version has bigger ones
and is nopan

>>715777710
then why not choose the copyright option that sounds like a better option than going fully nuclear on something that wouldn't even solve the problem

>>715779365
I'll look it up.

>>715777581
Copyright was made for blackmail and censorship under the presumption that it would only be used by large publishers capable of fielding equally large legal teams, but there are ultimately still some restrictions on it that make it less than ideal for this case.
They're using patents because there is no real rigor in applying for a patent and they can just drag that into the court case, forcing it to be contested in court and just generally dragging the procedure out to see who bleeds too much money first.

Yeah yeah revenge sisters this is my response

>>715779469
CHILLET SEXO

PalGODS win again

>>715776017
To avoid the injunction until the case is over. If they win the features come back

>>715776236
Dummy

>defending Nintento and gamefreak
CRINGE OOF

>>715758592 (OP)
How does Nintendo not see they are damaging their reputation with this, it's wild how stupid these "family friendly" corporations are lately.

>>715759659
she's lvl 5, you sick fuck!!

Why is Nintendo still so desperate about this?
After the first rearded wave of tourists Palworld deflated and now it's just your "average" successful game on Steam.
Switch 2 is selling like hot cakes and they have MK World and Bananza, with Pokémon on the horizon, just let go, Jesus.

>>715765338
look at the designs of the feet you disingenuous faggot

>>715779649
Do you even think nintendo cares about any of that at the moment with all the shit they've been doing lately?

>>715776304
Pure evil, I hope their country gets filled with indians.

Palworld needs evolutions, mixing or mutations. Something similar to Jade Cocoon.

>>715778608
Heck yes tendobro it'll be epic amazeballs ftw for a big company to be able to bully a smaller company out of business

The catalog and threads here are going to be legendary the day nintendo loses.
I literally can not wait.

>>715779649
Nintendo could eat a sandwich wrong and their reputation will be damaged, why they fuck would they care?

>>715779837
why
this is just a malicious harassment suit
they dont gain anything from it

>>715779750
Game doesn't need evolutions. Form changes to a sidegrade variant would be cool though.

>>715759421
Palworld is open world survival crafting game. What part of Pokemon did it "ape"?

>>715779789
Yeah that's what I said dumbfuck

>>715779497
do not lewd the noodle

>>715760197
>>715760245
>>715779672

>people think Nintendo is actually invested in this lawsuit
These lawsuits are literally just made to piss off competitors and waste their time
They could win or lose and the day after they would still be on their next campaign against some other devs or emulators

Chadworld won and shartendo will have to pay 1 billion dollars to Palgods.

But the best part is that poketroons on/ v/ will forever be btfo.

>>715766820

>>715779916
The monster catching and riding mechanics. It also copied the Alpha Pokemon mechanic from Legends Arceus.

>>715778608
Maybe if they finished more than 1 game and not have a bunch of them stuck in early access, I would trust them more in actually finishing something.
Even though Palworld has a good chance to be finished because it's making easy money but at the same time will probably make them complacent.

>>715780171
You're supposed to say something that makes it clear what your point is instead of just letting people trust their lying eyes telling them that every single part of those models are objectively different

Pocketpair cant stop winning bros

>>715780294
>Manual hard labour
Yeah she'll be going into it in about 9 months

>>715780460
*Sets pregnancy timer to 0*

>>715779995
Why is she so sexy, bros?

>>715780294
>ingame
>1911 is the size of a deagle brand deagle
>this comic
>deagle is the size of a 1911, maybe smaller

>>715780185
So pokemon aped Ultraman, smt and DQ?

>>715779879
The collective mindbreak of the nintendo fans crying that their favorite company got told to fuck off would generate enough heat to melt the surface of the moon.

For me is the semi-auto rifle.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bimz8JS1cN0

>>715758592 (OP)
They should have just gone all in on the monster designs. Putting up side by side pictures of Lucario with that Egypt version, would have done more to prove what even regular fags saw as blatant ripping off, as opposed to whatever vague BS they are actually trying to take them to court over.

>>715780559
>whataboutism
lol

>>715780559
Can you name a mechanic pokemon took from them?

>>715780879
>completely btfo
lol

>>715780945
Capturing monsters in a container and sending them out to fight (ultraman).

>>715780559
considering that gachapons and that one scene in ultra man it's a probability that it shows that pokemon is just as much as unoriginal cause they had to take 2 things to make the pokeball meanings if those two things never existed, I'm pretty sure there wouldn't be no such thing as a pokeball that we have today which is hypocritical which i know the people trolling would probably get mad at this statement

>>715758592 (OP)
It's over
Nintendo lost

>>715780996
That's not a mechanic, that's a concept.
I should tell you now that shows aren't games and can't have interactive mechanics.

>>715758592 (OP)
Nintendo isn't going to recover from this...

>>715781056
which pretty much means without that there wouldn't be no such thing as a pokeball kind of hypocritical

>>715781121
In other words you can't name a mechanic pokemon took from them.

>>715781056
Palworld implemented the mechanic in Craftopia before Nintendo patented it for legends ZA so technically Nintendo copied them

>>715781170
im not the same anon im just calling you out on how hypocritical it is to say that the pokeball is original idea of pokemon when they weren't formed by their own thoughts but just two items they meshed together and basically called it theirs because pretty much without them there wouldn't be no pokeball

>>715781170
Nice pilpul.

>>715781195
You haven't named a mechanic.

>>715781232
i forgot to place the "is not" behind pokeball

>>715781273
Naming something doesn't make it more valid in patent cases.

>>715781232
Irrelevant. No one said anything about the pokeball being original, you were asked about mechanics.

this is what happens when your game makes you a shitload of money and you can actually fight back
fuck corpos and fuck niggers

>>715781325
I'd that's how pocketpair thinks too then Nintendo is going to win.

>>715781273
I did. Nintendo blatantly ripped off capturing monsters in real time 3d with a throwable projectile and then had the gal to patent the mechanic.

>>715781393
They can't fight back, all of their arguments have been shot down since their prior art examples all use different mechanics.

>>715781394
In english please.

>>715781418
That's not a mechanic. You're describing what it is, not how it functions and that's the important part.

>>715781460
They haven't though. The case is still ongoing

>>715781342
im not talking about mechanics im talking about originality just saying it's hypocritical to think pokemon has original ideas when all they did to make their game was combine other people's ideas like how palworld did with their game

>>715781502
It functions the same

>>715765857
this confirms my theory that AAA industry is a scam and games don't take all that much money or time to make

>>715781507
>The case is still ongoing
No on said it wasn't, that's doesn't mean that pocket pair has any arguments left which is why they pulled the last resort.

>>715781515
Making your posts irrelevant to the conversation and your claim of hypocrisy literal delusion.

>>715780559
You don't catch monsters in SMT or DQ you retard. You recruit them through negotiation or defeating them.

>>715781553
You got it backwards. Nintendo is the one alleged to be pulling the last resort by editing their own patent. Prior art is one of tbe first defenses you bring up

Nintendo will lose.

>>715781548
Which is false, the two main differences come in the fact that it doesn't have an aiming mode of any kind and that balls home in.

>>715776304
>Palworld was literally made by Japanese gas station attendants
>HURR PENDRIVE VERSION CONTROL
>DURR AMATEUR GUN MODELER
Why do people still parrot this shit? The developer had a major (abandoned) early-access release before Palworld and Palworld itself was shilled at the biggest industry events. It's like Japanese Expedition 33, where everyone sees an underdog where there is none.

>>715781685
Craftopia is still getting updates though. It got a major one during the Terraria patch

>>715781619
>Prior art is one of tbe first defenses you bring up
Yes, and they were shot down because their examples didn't use the same mechanics forcing them to use their last resort and call the patents themselves into question.
It's a tactic in patent cases usually used for stalling when you have nothing left since it forces the plaintiff to revise their information. It's what colopl did before they lost

Hell yeah!

>>715781782
They weren't shot down. They're still being argued

>>715780294
>Can't stop winning
>It's literally losing
Kek, I can't wait for this shit to be over and watch the palkeks shit and piss themselves. You deserve it.

>>715781782
You dummy you can argue prior art and the validity of the patents themselves at the same time. Prior art itself negate a patent's validity

>>715773664
Nah if they want to win, they need characters as fresh and fertile as picrel, not hags like Zoe or Lily that clearly have been gaped by their Pals

>>715780171
>creature based on a lion... THIS CREATURE IS ALSO BASED ON A LION!?!?
>AH NINTENDO-SAMA LITERALLY INVENTED LIONS SUE SUE SUE

lol

>>715781989
the lawsuit hasn't even started it literally due in 3 years also what even is the point of caring for a game you hate

>>715766820
The only one of these which is remotely close is Anubis/Lucario.

>>715782112
but aren't they just jackals though

>>715758942
I wonder how long it'll be before companies just start whacking each other instead of hiring lawyers

>>715773332
Even as a fan of huge tits I don't like most Palworld model mods.

>>715766820
>Nintendo invented animals

>>715778896
Search the Colopl lawsuit. Those guys patented touch controls and were charging fees to every single company that implement them, then Nintendo came and sued them the exact same way they are doing it with Pocket Pair and won.
Now Nintendo has that patent but they are not charging anyone, they own a shit ton of patents just to keep them safe from other companies trying to fuck over everyone else.

>>715782084
It insulted his god

>>715758592 (OP)
Tendies lost
Mario lost
Wife's boyfriend win

>>715782084
I just find it funny how palshits are getting desperate, it makes me laugh every time I see your threads about the lawsuit.

uh oh, spicjeet tendie janny didn't like the posts

>>715782215
but the thing is palworld isn't doing anything like that to fuck anyone over so why use that also all they did was make a game for people they want to enjoy it wasn't gacha trash or microtransaction hell which confused me why this game needs to be obliterated i get some of the criticism but this literally is not necessary i would've understood a copyright lawsuit better than a patent one

>>715781989
>wah wah wah
Its afraid
lol

>>715782356
Shut the fuck up already.

>>715782273
>seething and fanfictioning that im op of these threads
i hate these fucking threads cause their obviously false flags threads to bring faggots like you here to get a little laugh at nothing i try to see if there are actual information instead of shitflinging like what you're doing

If you steal you deserve to get sued. Good thing they are getting their shit pushed in.

>>715782438
Where's the lie
Hell, if Nintendo was smart, they would buy pocket pair early on

>>715782503
That's a different anon false flagging.

PalCHADS winning BIGLY

>>715782715
>loses
LMAO

Pokesis, don't fucking look!

>>715782865
Switch 2 port, doko?

>>715782931
Lol

>>715782865
Will we actually get cars and bicycles in the game?

>>715783036
The game will be shutdown before that.

>>715765857
>americans like to shoot things
I love that the global depiction of America is a fat white man wearing a cowboy hat with a gun.
It makes me proudm

>>715758592 (OP)
Jeets have shitslants though lmao.

>>715783104
why would they shut down their game?

>>715782995
I just want to play the game, man

>>715758942
and now
>try to change the patent mid-case to more specifically target the rival
Honestly, it's been shouted for years, but this is it for me.
It's over. Nintendo is finished. Or rather, I'm finished with Nintendo. The company I knew died with Iwata.

>>715782036
>Prior art itself negate a patent's validity
What's with the strawman? He didn't say that it did he's saying that their arguments were invalid because they didn't actually present anything that qualified as prior art since a game using the same idea isn't the same as being functionally the same.

>>715782356
>but the thing is palworld isn't doing anything like that to fuck anyone over
I'd argue being a leech is harmful in creative industries.

>>715782068
Ain't no pal tamer like that I'm afraid

>>715783481
Leech implies palworld is something Nintendo would ever release

>>715783228
>The company I knew died with Iwata.
That's what happens when you grow up with the hyper Jewish iwata.

>>715783546
Leech actually implies that they're a parasite that can't exist on their own.
And considering all of their games are just lazy mish-mashes of others I would say that's accurate.

>>715783546
They literally released Pokemon Legends Arceus which Palworld stole mechanics from. It's also better than Palworld

>>715783619
Palworld was in production before Arceus was even announced
Hell they were revealed same year

>>715776017
Nintendo doesn't win until the game is removed off Steam, as long as it's not, they'll continue to seethe

>>715783751
They revealed the same year, Legends released first and then 3 years later Palworld suddenly had its mechanics when it. They were stealing ideas mid-development because Pocketpair are leeches.

>>715783561
bro, japanese people are the jewish people of asians, it's something even the japanese themselves make fun of.
Iwata was the least jewish member of the board, and the second he died it became a litigious shitfest.

faggots like you who just cry "J-JEWISH!" about everything and everyone don't even think before you post, you're a creature of pure reflex.

>>715783890
Such as?

Pokefags lost and still have shit games

>>715783619
>It's also better than Palworld

>>715783036
I hope not. The only reason why bicycles exist in Pokémon is because GameFreak is too lazy to allow you to use Pokémon as transportation except in the game where they give you a retarded looking all-in-one transportation abomination. The games are also designed to facilitate bikes because 95% of the terrain is either mostly straight paths or open areas with fucking nothing in them.
>>715783481
Flawed logic. GameFreak didn't invent the genre.

>>715783929
Summon monsters nearby by throwing a ball, para-gliding on a monster. Giant Alpha Pokemon. All stuff that Palworld didn't have until after Legends released.

>>715784084
Pokémon didn't invent any of these things. You're a retard.

>>715784084
The first palworld trailer already showed gliding and riding and that was june 2021.

>>715779672
Mine is level 50

>>715783481
that's why i said just use a copyright lawsuit to make them fix their mistakes also what damage did they do to industry cause everyone who said they are causing damage to never be listed no examples besides that clones are going to pop up which will happen regardless of any game and this game been around for 2 years and they never caused any damage to industries besides game companies themselves and China will always do china things palworld did not encourage if they were already doing it and first play just look at the fake gta scam that predates palworld

>>715766568
It's a bitch move to do a basic defense and ask for the other side to actually provide a reason?

>>715784584
i meant to say, "to the indrustry" and i forgot to remove the "be" i hate my mouse

>>715783902
>japanese people are the jewish people of asians
That would be the Chinese.
>Iwata was the least jewish member of the board, and the second he died it became a litigious shitfest.
The problem here is that you're clearly just blinded by your childhood adoration of him and as such you did what you claimed I did in that you didn't think before you posted after all he introduced things like
Microtransactions
Social elements, some of which had the previously mention microtransactions like swapnote
DLC
Anti-consumer practices like not selling replacement gamepads and offering repairs at extortionate prices
Mobile games
Anti-youtube programs
Amiibo, physical dlc where he not only tied substantial content to them and limited supply but also made a select few exclusive to certain retailers making them difficult to obtain for the normal consumer but very easy to scalp on top of being considerably lower quality products compared to today.
And let's not forget the new 3ds, a revision he tried to give exclusive games to.
Oh and I almost forgot about how expensive virtual console games were. At a tome where you could get crash bandicoot on PlayStation for about 3 bucks NES games were sold at 5.

As for being litigious, while now it's mostly the reasonable stuff like people trying to make money on their property under iwata they were much, much more aggressive taking down games that didn't make any money, they even tried to take down a smash tournament at Evo despite them having rights to broadcast it. A far cry from sending warnings out first and then taking down an unlicensed tournament.
And let's not forget about the Earthbound book by Marcus Lindblum that was cancelled because he signed an NDA from about 20 years prior.

So yeah, plenty of evidence of Nintendo being more Jewish under iwata. As opposed to now where the only things to worry about are paid online which is dirt cheap and that's about it.

Sorry to burst your nostalgia bubble kiddo.

>>715766820
Do you think Gamefreak invented animals, legends, and eyes?

>>715783957
>GameFreak didn't invent the genre.
Who said that they did? Do you people ever come up with valid arguments?

>>715784669
No.
But it is a bitch move to do that AFTER a reason was provided.

>>715784776
Then your initial argument was fallacious and disingenuous. That's a concession and I accept. Thanks for making this easy.

>>715784829
Even when the reason is laughable nonsense?

>>715784880
Yes anon, explaining in detail why it's the same functionally it's definitely "laughable nonsense".
Not the defendant effectively going
>nu-uh, I don't believe it so you're wrong!

>>715759421
>isn't it blatantly obvious that palworld aped the shit out of pokemon?
And? Copying a concept isn't legally forbidden. You can't patent the concept of "capturing cute little creatures". It's not how patent works. Thank God for that, because else I'd publish the patent of "having a main character", or "having a villain", or the concept of "orphaned MC".

But that's an interesting question because it reveals something I didn't expect: tendies want to punish Palworld because it copied the concept of cute creatures, and for them, somehow, this should be a legal crime. I thought everyone knew you couldn't patent the concept of cute creatures, but somehow tendies genuinely believe Palworld shouldn't be allowed to have cute creature. Because Pokemon did it first.

That's what tendies think. This explains a lot of things

>>715784875
>Then your initial argument was fallacious and disingenuous
Doesn't mean much coming from the corporate cocksucker who thinks everyone is the same person but hey I'll take on your argument with one simple sentence.
There's a difference between slapping two games together like pocketpair does and making an original product in an existing genre.

>>715783948
Lel my exact reaction

>>715759421
>why would they even need to file a patent after the fact?
Oh they didn't, they filed for these patents well before Pocketpair even produced a trailer that used them.

>>715785036
Anon, what the fuck are you talking about?
What does a patent case have to do with cute creatures? That would be copyright and there are thousands of other series with cute creatures.

>>715784776
thats just both sides of /v/ they either argue in bad faith or not im honestly on no one side but as someone who listens to Both sides of the arguments and try to weigh them i found out it's not that really serious and doesn't affect my life in no kind of way i honestly think palworld should get a second chance thoughbeit the fags who only say no just to get a reaction but that's generally my opinion cause they didn't really cause any big red flags like scamming their customers they did make a few heavy similar looks designs that look like pokemon but honestly a redesign would fix that i enjoyed palworld somewhat it has potential nevertheless it being a ark clone

>>715785231
You have to understand, he's not thinking logically nor does he actually know anything about the subject matter.
He just hates Nintendo and will spew out nonsense.

>>715785153
They didn't for the gliding and nintendo is going to have to prove everything else.

Wow a Palslop thread that gets more than 10 posts an hour, It must be about Nintendo and Pokemon

>>715785297
They filed all of the patents, including gliding, at the same time in 2021 and they've already provided documentation.
That's why pocketpair had to claim they were invalid patents, because everything was all correct.

>>715783425
He'a wrong on both accounts because they were not shot down and are still being argued witb prior art being used as evidence to nullify a patent. His second argument is based on the false assumption of pocketpair being shot "down"

>>715785231
Read >>715759421

A lot of tendies arguments made until now are that Palworld is obviously a ripoff of Pokemon. I never understood them until now. Somehow, it seems tendies convinced themselves that Palworld being a ripoff of Pokemon is __legally__ a crime, because that's how patents work. It's eyes opening isn't it?

>What does a patent case have to do with cute creatures?
That is exactly the issue. You can't patent the concept of "capturing cute creatures". You simply can't. It's not how the whole thing works to begin with, but somehow those people convinced themselves it is.

>>715785378
The patent was filed in december.
The trailer for palworld showing gliding was in june.

>>715785321
samefag from the other thread they have threads that don't focus on this this is just a falseflag thread
>>715707674

>>715785440
Understand tending are basing their whole argument over how morally right and justified they are

>>715785457
>The patent was filed in december
Of 2021, yes. Prior to palworld showing any actual gameplay containing the mechanics in said patents.
Not to mention it was shown in the PLA trailer which dropped several months before the Palworld trailer anyway.

>>715785440
>Somehow, it seems tendies convinced themselves that Palworld being a ripoff of Pokemon is __legally__ a crime, because that's how patents work. It's eyes opening isn't it?
So what you're saying is that you heard that they were making fun of Palworld being a blatant copy, got mad and created a coping mechanism interpreting anyone insulting it as seeing it as a criminal act.
>You can't patent the concept of "capturing cute creatures". You simply can't
If you know that, why in the seven shells are you acting as if that has anything to do with this?
No one other than you has ever uttered anything like that.

>>715781759
btw this update is just a bunch of new gun levels and shitty minor caves but yeah bro, it'll be out of early access any day now! you totally didn't get ripped off, Paltard!

>>715785457
Just a reminder, it's not the concept of gliding but the mechanics.
The first Palworld trailer was entirely prerendered so it didn't even how off any mechanics anyway.

>>715785683
im not the same guy but wasn't the argument that it's not being worked on anymore didn't you just contradict yourself by saying it got stuff?

>>715785554
The palworld trailer which includes gliding, one of the patent used by nintendo in the lawsuit, was from june 2021. How fucking dense can you be?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqTJFhbo9zY
The first announcement trailer for pokemon legends arceus only show basic catch, not release, and a short freeform fight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCAQb0kARAA
The later trailer started coming out in august 2021 and later.

>>715785740
NTA but don't you think patenting something like that is kinda repugnant in itself?

>>715776009
Anytime I go on a oil rig my pals just stop working in certain areas. They explode one enemy and then stop moving. The syndicate enemies also stop doing anything.

>>715785683
??? They added islands you can sandbox in and a bunch of items and qol fixes. It addressed major complaints people had with the open world update?

>>715779995
bratty pal! correction is needed!!

>>715758942
Tendies always defend nintendo

>>715785683
Funny, pokemon just says they are selling you full games + expansion before moving on the to next one, despite feeling like early access titles.

>>715785740
>pre rendered
No it was using a mix of cutscenes and gameplay from their game was it was still on Unity.

>>715785787
No, you'd have to be a bit dim to think that since there's so many different ways to do gliding as a mechanic.
I mean, what are some games with gliding, Ace Combat, SM64, Sonic Adventure 2, Arkham Asylum, I guess Zelda when you jump off a ledge with a Cucoo counts?
Anyway, the point is would you say all of these function in the exact same way just because it's all gliding?

All patents really do, and IP law in general, is breed creativity.

>>715758592 (OP)
i know next to nothing regarding court cases and correct me if i'm wrong but doesn't this count as fraudulent to tamper with evidence especially now they're caught doing it?

>>715786147
all gliding is floating down Wtf is there to add to basic ass concept?????

>>715786147
Thats bullshit and you know it

>>715760527
>compensate pocket pair
they're in japan anon. Pocketpair doesnt have very fucking strong connections to the JP government.
Its not america

>>715786147
>ace combat
>gliding
That's a stretch.

>>715765857
>But they realized it was laggy
its not.
t. used unity and unreal

>>715786404
No, it's actually pretty common to see in a patent case.
Basically what pocketpair did was call the the patents themselves into question after their arguments were dismantled so to speak. Meaning Nintendo has to pivot from proving they infringed on the patent to proving they're valid which can include rewording to make the patent clearer but you can't add anything that would change what the patent is.

That's why people call it the little bitch move.

>>715786147
Palworld's animal gliding is literally just swapping out the model for a monster and adjusting the gravity values. Nintendo claims ownership of it
Fortnite did this before either game

>>715758592 (OP)
the palworld guys should have enough money to leave japan... so just leave and suddenly nintendo has to fight in a country in which law isnt a nintendo dick sucker

>>715786623
NTA but you can stop accelerating and just glide on momentum as well as pick up speed by diving and pulling up like actual gliding, right?

>>715786978
>the palworld guys should have enough money to leave japan...
Their only choice is America and they would have a harder time dealing with patent cases there given how corrupt and incompetent the US patent Office is.

>>715787034
You can't cut off the engines in the games, so it's not momentum, just the engines running low therefore you are never gliding. At best you can force a stall but a stall isn't due to engines shutting down.

>>715785776
Tendieman gone very quiet since this one dropped

>>715786674
It might have just been laggy for what they were trying to do and not in general.

>hail mary
>look inside
>normal practice in patent disputes dating back to the early 900s
Will you idiots really believe everything that's presented in article form?

>>715787842
Is it really? It strikes me as someone who doesn't think the language will hold up in court as is and tries to make it fit better.

>>715787842
Rewriting the patent midcase doesn't really count as "normal practice" in modern days.

>>715787930
It's the other way around, usually the defendant calls it into question as a panic move forcing the plaintiff to revise.

>>715787930
>Is it really?
patent language revision is literally considered a part of initial case discovery.
>>715787979
It does and is regularly done to refine the standards of the case.

>>715787842
The article states how they're doing it is the hail mary since Palworld has apparently been successful at dodging the claims. I wouldn't know about the case firat hand since I don't read moonrunes

>>715788078
>Palworld has apparently been successful at dodging the claims
They haven't been successful at dodging anything, the case hasn't even started. They already had to pay a fine out of court and had to revise their game content. Any competent prosecution will have a slam dunk just pointing at that as a sign of being guilty.

>>715787995
In Japanese law at least you can alter the wording of the patent for narrowing the scope of the claims or to make it less ambiguous in response to a defendant challenging its validity. That's probably what's going on here.

>>715787995
The patent's validity was always called into question though?

>>715788163
>The patent's validity was always called into question though?
No, it wasn't. Granted patents are valid, you're arguing applicability, not validity of the patent itself.

>>715788157
That's wrong though. In the Japan it's not an admission of guilt and it a way of avoiding an injunction and can be seen as an act of good faith

>>715787582
Well yeah, you failed to prove your point. For starters the first Palworld trailer itself isn't valid since they did a complete rehaul of the game after they moved engines. They there's the fact that it's not even real gameplay.

>>715788246
>In the Japan it's not an admission of guilt and it a way of avoiding
Saar, it's not about culture.

>>715784707
>That would be the Chinese.
Not him, but all East Asians are cut from the same cloth.

>>715788163
The case isn't about the validity of the patent, it's whether or not pocketpair was guilty of infringement.
Pocketpair, as a last resort, is trying to shift blame on Nintendo saying that their patents are invalid.

>>715788227
The validity of the patents was always an issue because they were things that shouldn't have been patented in the first place due to the ideas being generic

>>715788401
Which isn't gonna stick since Nintendo literally secured the same patent in both US and Japan jurisdictions, which was that "loss" people were celebrating, not realizing having the patent granted in 2 territories basically ironclads the case.

>>715788414
>due to the ideas being generic
Anon, all patents are generic. The idea isn't that you have ownership of the concept, it's that you have ownership of your own specific implementation.

>>715788295
>isn't valid
no it wasn't it literally just the same game so no its not invalid considering it's the same game and they did have gameplay they had a whole demo showing it off in a trailer why are people like you so disingenuous

>>715788414
>to the ideas being generic
The idea is generic, sure, but the patent is painstakingly specific. Have you read it?
Nintendo has literally never been litigious about patents, only doing it once to prevent a literal patent troll from charging implementation fees to japanese developers. (Colopl case). I don't see why you can't grasp this.

>>715788401
The implementation was generic i.e. a literal monster reskin of a glider and projectiles that can capture mobs

>>715788480
Only one thing matters. Did they implement the mechanic in a product before the patent was filed, proving they are in the clear? No? It was only in the final product with follows both the filing date and first implementation? Oh that's too bad.

>>715788541
It's so specific that a glider skinned as a monster infringea on it. The idea and implementation are geneic

>>715788480
>it literally just the same game
Unfortunately it isn't. Hell the idea of the Palsphere didn't even exist at this stage and that's one of the things they're being sued for. If Nintendo really wanted to they could always just drop the gliding altogether and focus on that.

By the by it's not even the act of gliding, it's quick switching mounts from one model to another.
>they had a whole demo
No, no they didn't.

>>715788565
>the implementation was generic
you haven't read them.

>>715788604
they literally did its in the trailer why would they have gameplays without mechanics in it and doesn't really matter if its not the final product its still in the game trailer showing it was in there

>>715788565
That's the concept, not the mechanic.
You can't actually find any games prior to PLA that used those mechanics and even then it's only Palworld.

>>715788673
>It's so specific that a glider skinned as a monster infringea on it
That's not what the patent even covers. Also, there's 3 patents, and this one was only revised because of shaky language.

>>715788701
I did and they're so genric that a monster skinned glider which has been done before numerous times infringes upom it

>>715758942
lol no
This is just standard-as-fuck big corpo influence allowing them to do whatever the fuck they want with the law and process.
The only difference with a burger company doing the same is that they lack the experience to make all of that happen under a tight lid.

>>715788731
>would they have gameplays without mechanics in it
It's a called a prerendered trailer anon. It doesn't actually contain any gameplay.
That's why 90% of it doesn't even look like what the game does today.

>>715788731
>they literally did its in the trailer why would they have gameplays without mechanics
A trailer isn't a video game. Dyson can't sue you for patent infringement if you show off a video of a bladeless fan, they can sue you if you create it and market it with their implementation of technology.

>>715788785
It is because that's palworld's implementation of it and they were forced to chamge it

>>715788807
>and the third is about the smooth switching of riding objects, such as switching from horseback riding to flying on the back of a bird-like character
No it's not. It's rather specific.

>>715788864
Except it wasn't.
>the revised version of the anti-Palworld (definitely not biased language holy shit how is this reporting) patent did not introduce any new technical matter

>>715788824
Because they changed the rendering engine. The concepta and implentation were carried over to a new engine

>>715788997
I don't think you understand how patent infringement works. It's not the same as plagiarism.

>>715788943
Not at all. That's not how it works in Palworld anyway because you need to manuallt dismount before being able to glide.

>>715789089
>Not at all.
>That's not how it works in Palworld anyway
So which is it, is it too generic and how it works in palworld, or specific and not how it works?

>>715788996
???? That doesn't disprove what I said

>>715789046
I think you're missing the point. Changing engines doesn't negate that the work was done to implement an idea

>>715758592 (OP)
Patent on gameplay mechanics is retarded and needs to be abolished completely.

>>715789147
>nothing about the patent changed
>Nintendo was forced to change it
Yeah.
>>715789207
Trailers =! Full products

>>715789141
It's generic because palworld's glider functions the same as in any other game but when the right monster is slotted the model and physics values changes. That's it. You can equip animal gliders kn fortnite and they functiom the same down to the inputs. Nintendp is claiming ownership of this with their patent

>>715789294
No you dummy Pocketpair was forced to change their implementation because of Nintendo despite it being generic

>>715789328
I suggest you read the patent.

>>715789382
I did. I'm talking about the end result in that it allows Nintendo to claim ownership of something already generic

>>715788997
Anon, look in that post isn't being used literally, it's being used figuratively. The point is that none of the mechanics in that trailer nor the animations made it into the final game suggesting it was either a prerendered trailer, meaning none of those were real mechanics, or that they built the game, mechanics and all, from scratch which of course would make the original trailer moot

>>715789464
Most of the mechanics did make it into the. There's even fishing now

>>715789379
>Pocketpair was forced to change their implementation because of Nintendo despite it being generic
Why were they forced to change it if it was generic?
>>715789448
>the end result in that it allows Nintendo to claim ownership of something already generic
It doesn't.

>>715789328
Anon, it isn't the function of gliding. It's the quick switch to gliding in mid air.
In other words when the player walks off of a cliff there's a prompt to activate gliding which is exactly how it works in Palworld.

>>715789565
Becausw Nintendo claimed ownership of it. Theor patent is bullshit because it is effectively generic. I can use specific language describe how unreal handles character motion. Doesn't mean I own it

>>715788824>>715788850

but it literally isn't pre rendered they've shown once in an interview of the late stage of the game showing it actually existed, but you have look for it because i forgot to screencap it and i forgot what site it was but it was before they had to make the switch to unreal engine 5 it was on interview site for mizobe but i don't know which one cause there so many and not to mention that japanese love to keep hush hush with their game development but this was the only one i got after digging to only find something because it deleted due to rebranding of the site and it was way EARLY In the development before they had something similar to palsphere which is just the triangle from Crafttopia so there probably way to say they had it in development but idk but the rest but there is another one i just can't find it

>>715789534
>Most of the mechanics did make it into the
No, no they didn't. We don't even know how fishing was supposed to work originally so you can't even make the claim that it's there.

>>715789670
It's not even that generic, it's the option of switching between riding multiple PLAYER OWNED creatures with a QUICK SWITCH option between what you ride encompassing air land and sea. You'd have to try to get caught by it. A fucking palwheel could've avoided this entire debacle.

>>715789670
There's no prompt for gliding. It is part of the basic moveset so long as you have a glider or gliding pal equipped. It works just like in Fortnite

>>715789707
>they've shown once in an interview of the late stage of the game
Anon, that's footage of the game post engine change.

>>715765857
>i just want to make a game people like
Amazing how most developers are unable to grasp on this concept.

what convinces people to bat for nintendo and fucking pokemon especially?
i thought even pokefags knew that the franchise has gone to shit after the ds?

>>715789714
>. A fucking palwheel could've avoided this entire debacle.
Or better yet just auto activating gliding.

>>715789745
That's the point you fucking retard
>it's just like Fortnite!!!!
No it's not, Fortnite doesn't have on the-fly switchable gliders holy shit.

>>715767143
Liar
https://www.windowscentral.com/gaming/pocketpair-showed-off-gliding-in-palword-six-months-prior-to-nintendos-original-patent-application
Palworld showed off Pal gliding in June 2021

>>715789828
They are not on the fly switchable. You need to equip them beforehand

>>715759476
>the difference is that palword is GOOD
Look Anon, I have sunk quite a few hours into Palworld but "good" is stretching it.
It's just *way better* than Pokémon. Still kinda ass, but the bar was set so low by GF that PocketPair still managed to obliterate them with a mediocre product.

>>715789806
>what convinces people to bat for Pocketpair and fucking palworld especially?
Ftfy
Look around you. Are people here defending Nintendo or are they simply trying to state facts that Palworld fans are violently rejecting like flat earthers?
Just because the facts favor someone you don't personally like doesn't mean it's not a fact anon. You need to grow up and learn that.

>>715789868
Wow just like in Legends Arceus!
>>715789867
>mechanic removed
Another marker of clear malicious intent for the court.

>>715789749
Did you even read what i said i said it was WAY EARLY development before that trailer was put out or anything that resembled the trailer but this kind of proved it existed even if it's in its early stage of development

>>715789867
For the last time, it's not about gliding, it's the mid air activation of it which doesn't in fact appear in the trailer because the only instance of gliding doesn't show it being activated.

>>715790032
Just like fortnite and other games that let you use animal gliders you mean

>>715759421
>>715766820
If they went after palworld for copyright they would just remove the infringing designs. They're going after Palworld for patent infringement because they don't want it to exist at all conceptually.

>>715790071
You're not even capable of understanding my argument, there's no way to argue with someone this dumb.

>>715790054
>glider activating midair.
Do you know how games do this?

>>715789968
the facts are that pokemon has gone to shit and tendies are hating on shit that forces gamefreak to try

>>715789883
>It's just *way better* than Pokémon
Eh, that's debatable. I mean if I want to play a tamer I'm definitely not going to pick one that downplay the taming. Not to mention collecting is half the fun and after, what, three(?) it still pales I'm comparison to every other tamer, especially pokemon which boasts the largest number of non recolors

>>715790108
>They're going after Palworld for patent infringement because they don't want it to exist at all conceptually.
>attempting to map maliciousness on a company
You're making a retarded mistake again, they're going after 3 patents infringed because they see 3 infringed patents. Palworld can remove these at any time and could've settled out of court long ago.

>>715790123
You're being purposefully obtuse to ignore the fact that Fortnite has the same implementation of gliders including animal gliders

>>715790147
Fucking hell, this is why you don't phonepost kids.

>>715790054
Look mid air (he jumps) gliding
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRbFgipIbBg

mid air gliding
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBT8Tjvtr0U

Damn Nintendo should sue Microsoft.

>>715790186
>Fortnite has the same implementation of gliders including animal gliders
So, are you capable of switching between gliders while falling down onto the island in Fortnite? Actively I mean.

>>715790186
>to ignore the fact that Fortnite has the same implementation of gliders including animal gliders
It's almost as if it doesn't. You can't activate your glider in fortnite on the fly in mid air, once you land you're on the ground unless an item or setpiece forces it out again.

>>715790219
>The patent covers gliding with an on the fly switchable array of player owned game characters
I don't see how this applies.

>>715790228
You dont switch out glidera in Palworld. It's always based on the pal in your top most slot and you cannot swap them om the fly

>>715790219
Not even remotely close to the same thing.

>>715790178
They didn't see 3 patents infringed before they filed the divisional patents onto the 2021 patent.

If they did why would they file the divisional patents after palworlds release and not add the original 2021 patent onto it?

>>715790325
Because sub patenting allows the court to analyze the three cases separately and is often required to speed up proceedings. It's normal to do if you anticipate legal action.
>>715790294
Switching them inside the game area and being able to use a different one with different properties through a menu even on land is covered.

>>715790272
You can activate your glider midair in fortnite. What are you talking about?

>>715790284
Wait. So nintendo can literally take any mechanic. And add
>on the fly switchable array of player owned game characters
and effectively steal a patent with it? Hilarious.
Especially because on the fly switchable array of player owned game characters sounds like you should be able to swap during the gliding itself, which I am not sure you can do in any of these games.

>>715790439
>Switching them inside the game area and being able to use a different one with different properties through a menu even on land is covered
This is so fucking broad how was this shit even approved in the first place

>>715790476
You're babbling nonsense,
>So nintendo can literally take any mechanic. And add
Add what? They patented the mechanic for Pokemon where the mechanic applies. What would they "add"? What do you mean "steal patent"
>sounds like you should be able to swap during the gliding itself
It doesn't, I'm making it simpler for the sake of brevity, the patent is there for you to read.

>>715790439
Yeah that's way too broad. You can switch fortnite gliders in a menu. I'm calling bs

>>715790539
>This is so fucking broad
You're free to point out applications of it that match it exactly. Of course the "player owned characters" has to be met too, I want to see what you find.

If Nintendo loses they'll just accident Palworld devs

Nintendo was formed by yakuza (hence the hanafuda cards) and was very active during WW2 and their CEO committed warcrimes as a young lad

>>715789883
i'm very picky about games i like and i still put 100 hours in palworld, it's not perfect but it's good fun
pokemon games bore me after 1 hour

>>715790459
No, no you can't, it's all contextual

>>715790618
I wouldn't say items are characters, and I don't think a court of law would either.

>>715790284
Good for you anon, maybe you are smart enough that you can trick a company into paying you for sending C&D to modders.
If we followed your logic the first FPS that allowed reloading could have patented that mechanic.
You are probably a troll, EPIC troll anon, you got me, don't forget to post it on /r/4chan

>>715790324
Do you lack pattern recognition or something? Do you remember when FPS were called doom clones and why people did that?

>>715790629
>Nintendo loses they'll just accident Palworld devs
It's Nintendo not Sony.

>>715790621
Castlevania curse of darkness and it's bird familiar

>>715790687
>If we followed your logic the first FPS that allowed reloading could have patented that mechanic.
No it couldn't have, because it would've been too broad.
>You have to be a troll
You're just too low IQ to understand why high specificity is required in patent disputes, which is why you haven't read it and instead rely on shit told to you by secondary sources.

>>715790687
>Do you lack pattern recognition or something
You're saying this as someone who doesn't know the difference between a concept and mechanic. Have some self awareness.

>>715790539
I am 80% certain it should not be approved. But unless challenged it does not get changed.
>>715790569
Are you having a stroke? How is it difficult to understand that we had gliding mechanics in videogames for decades. Fucking arkham had batman gliding mechanics. Fucking sega mega drive games had jump - > glide mechanics. The only thing nintendo revolutionized apparently. And this is a stretch of apparently, is that you can apparently "on the fly" "change the character with which you perform the glide".
That is the only difference. Fucking hell gliding trough the air goes all the way back to fucking sonic and tails.
>It doesn't, I'm making it simpler for the sake of brevity, the patent is there for you to read.
Then its even worse. Its literally patenting something other people implemented in games for decades now. There is literally a 0% chance this patent should have ever gone trough.

>>715790758
>And this is a stretch of apparently, is that you can apparently "on the fly" "change the character with which you perform the glide".
>That is the only difference. Fucking hell gliding trough the air goes all the way back to fucking sonic and tails.
You're fucking retarded and don't understand what I'm talking about.
>trough
As expected.

>>715790740
As I showed, Palworld showed that mechanic BEFORE the patent was filed, you can't patent something that already exists, end of the story.

>>715790687
>the first FPS that allowed reloading could have patented that mechanic.
No, no it couldn't because the function of reloading could apply to anything, even gaining lives.
You have to understand that patents aren't
>the player character picks up ammunition for their gun
But
>the player character collects object a, which increases counter b, allowing for action

>>715765338
it's literally the exact same argument people make when comparing other monster catchers to pokemon

>>715765891
SMT predates Pokemon

>>715790636
You can mid air with an item that enables it. Before you didnt need it.
>>715790679
They items representing characters/creaturea

>>715790569
on a completely unrelated note what does the lawsuit against this game actually do or is it even worth sueing them even though this company hasn't been doing big red flags like scamming people or husting people i don't get it does this really deserve shit like this i already said my opinion >>715785245 and me myself i enjoy it, it's way more enjoyable than some monster tamer games but not the ones that are completed
and i dont get the fags who spam it hurts creative freedom when creative freedom has been already hurting itself with aaa games also not to mention palworld wouldn't do anything to them considering there will stlll be game stealing regardless of its existence

>>715765857
>>>i just want to make a game people like
incredible that it really is just that easy

>>715790621
Sonic heroes 2.
You own multiple characters with unique abilities. On the fly you can swap to tails which allows you to glide/fly.
Released 2003.
>>715790821
Oh, you just hurl insults. I should have known that besides sucking nintendo cock, you can't come up with a solid reason why a company should be able to take something that is common and patent it.
They should be allowed to just add to a description of a common mechanic and pretend they now have full ownership of it and sue everyone who is doing something vaguely similar!!!! Because how else is nintendo going to make money, they can't release good games after all, so their IP trolling is all they have.

Oh right. I forgot, there was a typo in my message. I guess all my carefully crafted points lose any and all meaning now. What a shame.

>>715790439

divisional patents are supposed to be part of the original design, they share the same legal filing date for that reason.

It isn't "to speed up proceedings", it's a pure calculated legal strategy, they not only filed these divisionals but sped up their filings. If palworld broke the original patent it should just be the original patent but it isn't because they filed these divisional patents to specifically target palworld.

They shouldn't even have this patents to begin with because nothing covered by them is novel or worth patenting. Nothing about gliding or riding is a new idea worth patenting in video games.

>>715791121
Keep in mind the shadows of mordor nemesis system was actually worth patenting because it created dynamic and persistent elements within the game that adapted to the players actions in a way that was wholly unique and interesting for the time.

This was an extremely novel idea at the time whether you hate the idea of patenting it or not.

Nintendo wants to assert this patent when we've been gliding in video games, capturing things and riding things, even in games they've made before this patent existed and say that's a brand new idea and no one else can do it anymore without our permission.

>>715790982
>what does the lawsuit against this game actually do or is it even worth sueing them
Just look at the lawsuit between the giga chad Billy against the soi boi Karl Jobst.
It took years and cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to resolve. If you are a small to mid sized gaming studio that has to take on Nintendo, they can literally kill you with court costs alone, even if you win.
And if you look at the game space, where larger companies try to keep a monopoly in certain genres, it makes sense why they would want to do so. Hell even Blizz tried really hard to bully other hero shooters out of the market, by conveniently releasing betas and free weekends when it would overshadow their competition.
And if you are a patent troll like nintendo or sony, you even get more opportunities.

>>715790975
>You can mid air with an item that enables it
Which means it isn't the same mechanic you moron. That's how specific patents are.

>>715791112
>On the fly you can swap to tails which allows you to glide/fly.
You can only switch characters when grounded not in the air making that a different mechanic. Also it's flying, not gliding.
The triangle dive would be gliding but again you can't switch characters in the air.

>>715790147
>collecting is half the fun
>pokemon which boasts the largest number of non recolors
The most fun I had with pokémon was the first gen and it didn't had more mons than current Palworld.
Especially post dexit were pokémon's total mon count is more of a "in theory" thing than something actually in the games.

>>715791417
Only in battle royal mode. You can freely in other modes, moron.

>>715791340
>And if you are a patent troll like nintendo or sony, you even get more opportunities.
Neither of which are patent trolls mind you given that they not only realised patents they've been defending with tangible products but also rarely sue for patents.
A patent troll is defined by not having a product and by filing numerous frivolous lawsuits.

>>715791543
>Especially post dexit were pokémon's total mon count is more of a "in theory" thing than something actually in the games.
Anon, I get you're an ESL but that doesn't mean you can't think. When people talk about the availability of monster they aren't talking about everything that exists, they're talking about what's in game.
At this moment in time not only does SV have 823 pokemon, putting it at a higher count than any pokemon game to date, this is more than most tamers on the market currently which hover anywhere between 200 and 400. Even Digimon Time Stranger, despite having the most Digimon of any game from what I can find, is unlikely to hit 500 let alone 800 after the dlc.

>>715790054
Mid air activation as a part of gliding doesn't make it novel.

No one cares if there's an inbetween step to an already known mechanic,
>>715790284
The specifics don't change anything because the overall mechanic isn't significantly different at all from industry standard.

>>715790569
The contention is that The patent shouldn't exist, you're trying to say they should assert a patent they have no right in owning.

>>715791835
>SV have 823 pokemon
How many of those can *actually* be captured in the game, and not just be exchanged from the previous ones?

>>715790147
>I'm definitely not going to pick one that downplay the taming
palworld doesn't downplays the taming at all though
you have to make sure that they eat, that they are in good condition and if they start to like you their stats gets boosted (and what would be "shitmons" get boosted even more so by bonding with your pals you can make even the weakest ones genuinely stand up in a fight by maxing affection)
base pals also have specific work utilities like how real tamed animals are tamed for a reason besides just "looking cute"
they can even get sickness in base and you have to give them specific medicines to cure them

>>715791835
Nobody talks about that except you retard
You're literally the only faggot who obsesses over numbers of catchable creatures as a metric of quality

>>715791914
>How many of those can *actually* be captured in the game, and not just be exchanged from the previous ones?
If I remember right only about 20 can't be captured normally and have to be found in raids. That still puts it over other titles.

>>715791938
What on earth are you talking about?

>>715792134
>only about 20 can't be captured normally
Eh.
Fair enough then.

>>715792134
>What on earth are you talking about?
Anon, I get that you're an ESL but it was a very simple sentence

>>715792134
>What on earth are you talking about?
If he's the anon I'm thinking of basically some guy who btfo'd him on monster tamers lives rent free in his head when he basically described how modern pokemon is still a better monster tamer than palworld.
It was him who focused on the numbers using the quality =/= quantity argument in the first place but he was told that in a game about collecting it really does matter.

Anyway now he shitposts in Palworld threads screeching about this one dude.

>>715792183
It's a bit weird though since some mon you can capture don't show up in the dex to keep a record of. For example, meloetta doesn't show up in the dex but you catch it normally.

>>715786147
That those things exist invalidate and you're pointing to them make the core argument of nintendo worse because you're pointing toward an industry standard.

Patents aren't meant to 'breed creativity' of things that already exist but are supposed to protect brand new creative efforts to meet the standard of being patentable at all to prevent situations exactly like this.

>>715792456
>schizophrenic conspiracy theories
Nintendo isn't sending their best

>>715792717
Anon, each of those games have wildly different gliding mechanics. It's not a standard if they're all done differently. That's the point.

>Patents aren't meant to 'breed creativity' of things that already exist but are supposed to protect brand new creative efforts
And they do. The problem is that you don't understand the difference between firm and function.
Let's go with an easier one to understand, if Nintendo patented jumping would Sega be able to use it in sonic after?
The answer is yes because Mario's jump doesn't use pinball like physics like sonic's nor does it turn him into a hitbox.

palworld won

>>715758942
Look up "patent trolling"

>>715793018
>turn him into a hitbox
Why the fuck do programlets try and pretend like they know what they're talking about
Hitboxes go on things, you don't have an object "turn" into a hitbox

>>715793052
This

>>715793290
When you master English you'll realise that you shouldn't make every statement hyper literally.
What he's saying is that sonic has a hitbox encompassing his entire body while Mario would only have it on his feet.

>>715793018
It is a standard because the overall idea is being applied differently, that's how standards (when talking about ideas for creative works) work.

You don't understand the difference between concept and implementation, the concept is standard, the concept is everywhere. Patents are specifically not supposed to lock down concepts like this and that is how it's being used in this case.

IF nintendo patented jumping they would be able to sue sega and argue it out in court, this is why patent law exists to protect creativity and create legal arguments for when they sue those people in court.