It fell off hard.

Dungeon Fighter Online peaked with the Anton era. Everything afterwards was downhill.

Where is Project BBQ?

atleast they learned their lesson from the last raid, for abit. i cant for the next update for new sexy bosses I want to beat
>>715759360
canceled for a genshin clone

Join NEET!
Come nabel!

Fuck battlemages
Battlemage sex

>>715759360
Turned into Khazan

>Grand Flores/Lorien
6/10
>Sky Tower
8/10
>Behemoth
9.5/10
>Noire Ferra
8/10
>Mt. Thunderime
8.5/10
>North Myre/Tavern/GBL Arad
9.5/10
>Ghent
9/10
>Bahn Hafen
7.5/10
>Time Gate
9/10
>Etten
7.5/10
>Anton
8/10
>Castle of the Dead/Luke
7.5/10 + 1/10 for Becky
>Metro Center
6/10
>Harlem
7/10
>Isys
6.5/10
>Kashipa/Pandemonium War
5.5/10
>Empyrean Civil War
3.5/10 + 3/10 for story
>Roschest
6/10
>Sirocco
Ruined West Coast/10
>Exile Mountains/Ozma
8.5/10
>Lemidios Sanctum
8/10
>Northpiece
5.5/10
>Bakal
6/10
>Library of Memories
5.5/10
>Seon
4/10

>>715760035
sex with rogues and shadow dancers instead

>>715760035
>>715760880
Witch > Summoner > Elementalist > Battle Mage
Necromancer > Kunoichi > Shadow Dancer > Rogue
Demon Slayer > Vagabond > Dark Templar > Sword Master
Brawler > Nen > Grappler > Striker
Mistress > Inquisitor > Shaman > Crusader
Ranger > Spitfire > Launcher > Mech

>>715760838
Also, Great Metastasis was a mistake

>>715759491
>Genshin clone
???

How come no one ever plays the Fighters anymore?

>>715759198 (OP)
I really didn't like the direction the game took when raids were introduced.

>>715761382
I do
she cute with her sprite rework

>>715760838
was bakal that bad? how did they mess up a revamp of the time rift stage from years ago?
>>715761060
that 3rd awakening necro design was too sexy. now rank the archers

>>715759491
>>715760475
dumb gooks

>>715761424
Yeah, I think they were a huge misstep. Anton was understandable since he was a big motherfucker, but the writing was on the wall with Luke.

The game really hit its peak with Time Gate. Everything afterwards was shaky. Even their best work after Time Gate (the entire Ozma/Michael storyline) was marred by the raids.

>>715761443
Thief really needs a plastic surgery patch as well, the 3a avatars for necro look bad.

>>715761443
>now rank the archers
I would if I knew anything about them. I tried getting back into the game recently by playing Huntress and I don't understand shit about Archers still. You can't get a feel for them when you hit level 50 in 2 days and all of your moves OHKO bosses. The designs are just so same-y otherwise.

>>715761382
they require skill to chain attacks for big damage rather than pressing a big button. female striker was way more fun canceling than male striker

I hope overkill ends up being good

>>715761424
Fuck, man, that takes me back

>Fortune Coins
>Healing items were actually food and not just potions
>The old HUD looking nice instead of modern
>Job advancements actually being a huge deal that you needed to complete quests for
>You get actual quests with interesting flavor text that make going through dungeons repeatedly interesting
>Old Hendon Myre before Metastasis ruined it
I wish I could go back to 2011/2012.

>>715761694
It could actually save the series after they fucked up DnF with the Seon/Clearmist content.

>>715761591
true. but i think her default stance conflicts with her new cultist personality, i think they need to change it for her neo
>>715761675
yeah oneshoting bosses do ruin the feel of knowing your characters strengths and weaknesses unlike the old days, especially on controller with how they map buttons

>>715761685
Fighters, Gunners, and (female) Mages feel like a relic of the past where you had to actually be good at the game instead of clicking insta-clear buttons. Even then, Neople have tried their hardest to make sure everyone has multiple screen clears with their 3 awakenings and the level 70/80/90 skills.

SOVL...

>>715761979
What sucks about it is that you don't get to understand how to really play your character before you get dumped into end game content. You're stuck one-shotting everything up through the Bakal Raid and then the game expects you to handle playing real dungeons in Clearmist.

>>715762296
Takes me back, Vilmark was so fucking hard for me back then

>>715762020
yeah because raids were becoming standard so classes had to be changed to fit a main role rather than more niche. rip monk's twister than homed in on enemies
its funny killing a mind controlling eldritch squid so early and then dealing with a homunculus mechanic and then red ridinghood and a vampire

>>715762398
atleast the enemies gang up on you if you dont deal with them fast. i lost a token on Dieuleve when i was staring at her walk during the boss fight

>>715762403
King's Ruin was the shit. 6 hard boss fights in a row. No enemies for you to farm for health other than the boss fights. Also ended on complete KINO with Mr. Kneelbe Foreme

>>715762425
I can't believe she, of all bosses, comes back as an NPC.

>>715762586
True enough. I lost a couple of lives on sidequests because the NPCs deal an exorbitant amount of damage. I remember one quest where you gotta chase 3 thieves and one of them just one-shot me while I was trying to figure out what was going on.

Never died in the story mode otherwise. I just needed quest items so I could make Ikki the Vikki my wife

>>715762425
>yeah because raids were becoming standard so classes had to be changed to fit a main role rather than more niche. rip monk's twister than homed in on enemies
Wait, they gutted Monk? What the fuck. I mained Monk back in 2012 and was PvP king. RIP my nigga

>>715761979
I wish the other older characters would get their model reworks too but it probably won't happen.

>>715762890
He's actually way better now, it's just they removed the homing tornado.

>>715762708
shes finally free from the tower.

>>715763060
I'm still iffy on the Luke story line. It doesn't make sense that he would cause his own death. Even Becky knew he had changed and she ended up babysitting an empty tower until Soldoros sperged out and made her homeless.

YOU'VE GOTTA SPEND MONEY TO MAKE MONEY

>>715759271
it peaked with doing full clears of second spine with a full guild party

>Get back into DFO after not playing since Anton
>Can't party with my friend who also picked the game back up because every dungeon is a scenario
>Power level past Awakening 1 & 2 in no time flat
>Finally starting to enjoy the story
>Hit level 111, just barely into Season 12
>Suddenly game auto-completes everything in Season 12 and 13 for me and tosses me into Seon because my level was too high
>Don't know what the fuck is going on
>Only way to see what I missed is to play the missions individually
>Can't get drops/earn quest rewards
>Don't have enough Fame to enter the dungeons I missed
Welp, I was enjoying the new content while it lasted. Shame to hear the Seon content isn't great. I have no clue what's going on anyways.

When will they add fourth awakening and Dimension Walker just dies?

>>715763526
The level 40 days were kino. Finally leveling past 34 after a week of being stuck on 1st/2nd Spine and getting to go to Noire Ferra will always stick in my mind. It's like when I finally got a Runescape membership and was able to walk into Catherby, but for DFO.

I remember meeting a party of 3 other mages at the time and we would clear end game (at the time) dungeons together, forming a quasi-guild. My Summoner was one of the top 500 in the arena for a time.

>>715759198 (OP)
Im so sick of the korean MMO grind for new end game gear every so often and new end game content that requires you to know 30+ boss gimmicks so you dont instantly die and waste time. Also the fact more end game content is heavily pushing for you to play with people so you cant be a loner anymore and this game truly falls apart if everyone in your party is thousands of miles apart, this game was built with god tier korea internet in mind.

>>715763734
Back in the day, Summoners were auto-kicked from parties because they would cause everyone to lag out of their fucking skulls from the sheer amount of summons. Those were the days. Being a Summoner was a solitary life.

>>715763545
The awakenings don't really have the same impact they did before. 1st and even 2nd awakenings were special because they required effort to unlock. Now everyone is just gifted awakenings and you barely spend any time in your 1st awakening.

4th awakening should just take away all of your skills after level 25 but make them deal way more damage to compensate.

>>715762792
you mean romance items so you get item discounts? nice
wish the boss npcs had them

>>715764040
Yeah. I just wanted Ikki the Vikki to like me so I threw a bunch of quest items at her to quickly raise her affection to 100%

Did they ever make Witch's loli spam actually good or do you still just turn it off?

>>715763236
i guess luke couldnt control his returned power of hilder gave him something that corrupted him so we had to fight. soldoros just wanted swordmaster aura

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0K66oSxD-LI

Behemoth was the best area in any MMO ever. Nothing comes close. Pre-Metastasis Behemoth was peak MMO.

>>715760035
I wish Americans were real.

>>715759198 (OP)
Man, I was considering trying this one out after reading about it in another thread, but reading this one, I'm not so sure now...

>>715764405
>According to Koreans, Americans are all a bunch of lolis/shotas, furries, and slave dealers

>>715764462
It's a good experience for the first month. Late game content gets iffy, but everything before that is good. Story, music, gameplay... I wish they'd just release a standalone version that doesn't have any multiplayer elements.

>>715759271
HARD disagree
t. really, really, really loved echon

>>715764367
it was cool exploring sky ruins and fighting giant squids at night. good times
>>715764462
you should try it. just enjoy the ride until you reach max level

>>715764715
Everything in Pandemonium except for Casino Royale and Fight Club was mid

>>715761060
>mom in last
you just made an enemy for life

>>715764747
Don't forget hitting Behemoth's pimples to make him fly upwards and let you hit the blimps with ground attacks.

Otherverse and Ancient dungeons were peak DFO. Vilmark and Reshpon were so kino they recycled them into regular dungeons, but Goblin Kingdom, King's Relic, Castle Nebulous, and especially Darkside were all amazing as well.

Newfags won't know how amazing it was to box with Michael of the Holy Eyes in order to prove your worth to fight Ozma. Everything about it was just perfect, especially Michael one-shotting you for not immediately running upwards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbKzT9PGypY

Game went to shit in the 2020s. Everything before that is nearly perfect.

>>715765196
Reshpon was famous for class damage showcases. its why so many people wanted to go for +12 reinforced weapons to one short gimmick enemies.

boxing with michael was kino. it was like fighting jesus to get to satan. wish they kept that in the future

>>715761382
female fighter is the class I will forever suggest to everyone starting out
there are no wrong choices, and they are all fun
fgrap >= fnen >= fstriker >= fbrawl

>>715759198 (OP)
The hard dungeons or whatever before raids are super creative. The dancing mechanics or alternate mechanics for Venus is super smart.

Maybe Maplestory Classic will be successful and we'll get DFO Classic in 10 years.

>>715765301
Pandemonium was the peak for music.
>Luke
>Echon
>Tayberrs
>Casino
>Operation Hope
>Fight Club with the fucked vocals
>Sisley's theme that has her singing
>Tagor that has ekg beeps since she is just a mutilated corpse pieced back to life as a cyborg

>>715765736
how are they? do you dance with her to get better damage at cost of risk?

is hildr still getting away with everything?

>>715765879
im surprised sisley is still remembered along with tagore from that evildom raid. her betrayal must of hurt
also i like doghead's theme for the rock and organs

>>715766209
of course
she's gonna end up killing cain one day

>>715766228
Sisley is memorable if you play witch because she is just you if you weren't good enough. Playable witch is so powerful because she's the only one that was able to master homunculi. It is banned for everyone else so they had to go all in on tech. Sisley ignored the ban and she ended up a fucked up nightmare monster with fucked up homunculi.

>>715766209
not as long as she has high magic and apostle energies till in her. she needs to pay for her crimes!

>>715766457
im glad witch didnt come out like this

>>715759271
Nah bro. Pandemonium was PEAK it was so good to play the game around that time

>>715765758
i doubt it if they let the mobile games fail

>>715766209
You finally get to fight Hilder in the newest raid In a memory, before she was an apostle, and also Hilder is some Voldemorte anagram bullshit of her actual name

>>715770246
Is Hilder the one that made the fake gods that blew up earth?

>>715770246
why did she dress like that?

>>715770336
Along with some others, including Hologram Hitler. But mostly her. I actually quite like the Seon story stuff starting at Hall of Memories even if story content up to Asrahan kinda sucked to play through.

>>715770440
It was the fashion at the time. Just like young Azalea's huge fuckin jacket.

>>715770542
she was there too? cute

well see you guys around

>>715771942
Kind of a bummer, I started playing again after a few years and I'm enjoying it a lot, but any community has definitely retreated into discords

>>715770542
What the fuck was Azalea's deal anyways

I miss the pvp. 90% it was awful but when it was fun it was fun.

>>715772013
yeah the few communities that do survive are on discords or if korean those inline things
>>715772319
yeah fair pvp was alright. pvp now is too unbalanced without high gear to survive, especially against newer classes not made for it

Storm Bringer does things for me

>>715765675
>Play fgrap
>CDnF refugee joins the raid party
>Can't combo off skills all of a sudden
FGrap is fun but you really need to have people close to you to play in a group

>>715765974
There's boss patterns or damage phase mechanics if you do it an alternate way she'll drop a relic which lets you deal more damage. So instead of away from her, if you hit her from behind during a specific damage phase she'll drop the relic. Another one is successfully completing this star chart thing and a relic will drop. Just neat stuff.

>>715772135
Honestly I have no fucking idea. They explained more about the Grim Seekers' origin in the Nabel story and it still means fuckin nothing to me other than "whatever Hilder is doing, we don't like it"

>>715772878
shes electrifying thanks to her lasers

Redpill me on the Wave. What is it and why do I have to drink funny blind juice to see it?

>>715773067
yeah female grapplers need to time their grabs with the party's attacks so they can take advantage of the exposed boss

I keep seeing people mention Seon being bad. I stopped playing during the 100 cap I think? The one that first introduced rainbow/Mythics which were like super pieces of an epic set. What happened with Seon?

>>715774908
I didn't play during the Seon part of the 110 cap, but the story itself in White Valley, Clearmist, and Dusky Island was just sorta tedious, while still having the current story 'gameplay' of press button screen explodes move to next screen.
Also having looked at vendors, the gearing of that cap seemed overly complex/confusing, more than even usual. Like take the 105 weapon you got, make the Bakal weapon by combining the Spirazzi/Hismar/Skasa weapons, then upgrade it to 110 with mist dreams or some shit, unlock its constellation and upgrade it through 3 different systems that overall take like a year straight of doing raids to do.

>>715774908
Brief history: early in the game, epic equipment actually had cool effects, like increasing your damage based on your dark resistance or whatever. At some point around 90-95 cap they stopped doing this, and all gear was just a raw damage boost. This sucked and was boring. 110 cap was the best the game's ever been because they both got rid of epic set effects and they brought back the funny cool effects epics used to have. Epics also dropped from normal dungeons instead of hell mode (which is basically a slot machine that steals your fp so you cant play the actual game). This was a golden age for about two months, because you could be infinitely creative and make any build you wanted, and you could target farm by doing all sorts of different dungeons. One of the meta sets made you fall asleep a bunch but increased your cooldown recovery while sleeping, it was all cool stuff like that, except you could also mix it with idk some random gear piece you got that gave you a big damage shockwave whenever you jumped.

So this rocked, and as I said it lasted about 2-3 months. Then Seon came. Seon got rid of all the cool effects and the target farming and all that nice stuff and you were just farming dailies / weeklies for damage lines on your gear again, and there were only like 2 builds.

>>715775378
Oh yes I'm well aware of the old DFO. I still remember when OV gear was second best and epics had niche cases on certain setups. Miss some of the old grap OV gear and Nen OV gear. Sounds like I missed on a very good time to play the game, that's a shame. I remember back in 90 cap, or whenever not-New York was the end game, there was a football epic set that was sort of fun. Almost completed that back then but missed one piece all the way until the cap changes...

>>715775571
ov gear was cool. i love the lower cool down effects so i could spam bloody fountains all the time. worth the lower damage and mp costs

>>715775571
They transitioned that sort of effect to the talisman system, and in 2 months or so will transition that to the skill flourishing system. But those systems are relatively tame compared to some of the stuff you used to be able to do.
The options a lot of the time are like
>Does 60% less damage, but is now twice as fast, has 1/3 the cooldown, and can stack 3 uses

>>715775378
>tfw I never got the revolver that turned your attacks into nen shots
chronicle sets were fun too. I remember the slayer one that let you basketball dribble enemies.

>>715775819
that sounds boring. i want extra big momma bombs each time i use a cube skill

>>715776157
It seems like the goal with the system is to smooth the edges off skills so that every class can reach a baseline of mobility while still doing damage so they can design bosses with certain tempo of mechanics in mind. Which yeah is kind of boring compared to the seeming goal of that old stuff being
>lol what if you could replace your basic attack with the laser cannon
I do find the boss design fun though, Legion Dungeons are great

>>715776437
i might try those bosses. seeing a soul bender use his skills while solo sparked some old joy

>>715776437
The dungeons are fun, it's everything else that's the problem. The RNG this cap fucking sucks, and the gearscore gating has gotten out of control.

>>715779513
True, I think Venus is fun, but the amount of slot machine grinding you have to do to walk in the front door is pretty obnoxious. Hell, just reaching the first Advanced Dungeon of the 115 cap is a chore that can take weeks if you're not actively funneling to a character, and White Cloud Valley/Solidaris are basically free to the point of boredom.

>>715759198 (OP)
How much can be done solo/matchmaking? I dropped it when endgame asked me to join coordinated 20-man raids

>>715780551
Everything except the normal/hard mode raids can be done solo. The current raid has a single player/matchmade 4 player mode with less bosses/mechanics. I think that's the only actual matchmaking content the game has now.
The raids with a pile of people (I think it's 12? I sure as shit don't do them) are the current end game, though I think the solo boss dungeon they're adding next month technically can scale harder and be done solo.

>>715776039
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o80nWR0OeBw&t=1s
I miss this era of wackiness.

>>715782397
I remember this video
>11 years ago
Jesus

>>715770246
Hey look, it's Lucy from Cyberpunk

>>715780551
90% of the game. It's basically singleplayer up until level 110+ anyways.

Summoner Supremacy

Of all the apostles, why is Lotus the one that doesn't come back? He gets KWAB'd by some level 30s that aren't even awakened and it's never explained what his true power really was.

Hilder did nothing wrong

>>715759198 (OP)
project overkill when?

>>715791219
Overkill was killed

>>715791884
damn really?
i wouldn't be surprised after bbq was converted into kazan, but i'd like a source

>>715791993
I was joking but might as well be true.

>>715792156
it probably fell into dev hell desu