I'm playing Persona 4 The Golden and I don't know which one to choose!!!! They kinda have the opposite personality but they both appeal to me in a way. Naoto is so cool and /fa/ and she's shy and autistic which makes her super cute. But Rise's so hot and has such a calming voice when she's serious, and the way she almost messes up her life because she's confused and cries makes me want to hug and protect her. Naoto is so sophisticated and serene and I love it but Rise's slutty teasing makes me rock hard too so I don't know!!!!! I want both to be happy!!!!!!!!!

>>715765794 (OP)
Naoto. She won't cheat on you and is willing to do anything for love.

>>715765794 (OP)
Rise is far far better

>>715765794 (OP)
i like rise more
she is nice, driven and determined

>>715765925
What if you're into NTR?

>>715765794 (OP)
Naoto is best girl by far
>>715765794 (OP) >>715765925 >>715766061 >>715766174 >>715766227

>>715765794 (OP)
Rise is better overall but naoto has huge titties

>>715765794 (OP)
Those are Kanji's wives. Give me Yukiko.

>>715765794 (OP)
Rise obviously, why would you pick a girl who looks like a dude? Do you like dudes?

Naoto chest-mogs Rise

>>715769474
Naoto becomes more girly over time thanks to (Yu). There’s a sense of progression and evolution

>>715765794 (OP)
Naoto without a doubt. Her voice is pure sex and her Valentine event was absolutely amazing

>>715765794 (OP)
This is a Naoto board.

>>715765794 (OP)
Naoto is better but Rise is the second best
In general Naoto is the best girl of the persona games

>>715770128
My personal ranking goes Naoto>Rise>Yukiko=Chie when it comes to the main girls. In general, P4 has my favorite main cast by a significant margin. Out of all the games, they feel like good friends the most in 4. It helps that most of the interactions are them just hanging out for the fun of it.

>>715770331
I'd put Chie over Yukiko. Yukiko is bland and her social link made no sense

Naoto actively pissed me off because she's braindead retarded. She antagonizes the Investigation Team when she first arrives in Inaba, she decides to make enemies of everyone, and she doesn't even set up a camera when getting herself captured, which could've easily gotten her killed BECAUSE SHE TOLD NO ONE ELSE SHE WAS DOING IT. She's also the one who suggests murdering Namatame, which leads to a bad end if you follow her advice.

I Reversed her social link and left it there for the rest of the game.

>>715770630
>she's braindead retarded
>literally no progress in the investigation till she joins your party
if Naoto's braindead then what does that make the rest of the investigation team

>>715770804
>if Naoto's braindead then what does that make the rest of the investigation team
Competent, because Naoto joining didn't progress the investigation either. They came to the same conclusions Naoto did, but weren't retarded about the execution. And even the genius Detective Prince couldn't figure out it was Adachi until Yu says "Oh it's Adachi".

>>715769474
Those comics take me back. Fuck.

>>715765794 (OP)
I like both of them, but Yukiko was always the girl for me. Straight, long black hair and fire affinity immediately brought back memories of 13 year old me watching Sailor Moon and lusting after Mars.

>>715770983
>Competent
Is that why Yukiko withheld vital information that would've made Adachi the prime suspect?

>>715771180
You said TEAM. That's everyone all together, which includes Yu's leadership and deductive reasoning, Chie's accurate bursts of inspiration, and Yukiko's idiocy. I don't expect these guys to be on the same level of cops, I expect them to be teenagers. Not so for Naoto, who works directly with the cops.

>>715770983
>the genius Detective Prince couldn't figure out it was Adachi
to be fair, Naoto wasn't around Adachi nearly as much as the investigation team was, and yet they couldn't figure it out. also, they all fell for a blatant red herring

>>715771375
>also, they all fell for a blatant red herring
That's only if you follow Naoto's advice and kill Namatame. If you listen to Chie and tell everyone to fucking calm down, killing him is wrong, and there's more to the story, the game continues.
Why is Chie smarter than Naoto?

>>715769792
She put on a dress and talked with a light voice one (1) time in the whole game. That's not being girly at all. She doesn't look girly until at the very end in a single picture.

>>715771340
Well I'm calling the entire team retarded then. They huddle up like 10 times throughout the story and go over all the clues they've gathered thus far, and no one suspects the murderer despite them being in direct contact with them

>>715771517
that's fine and all but I was talking about Mitsuo. but as you pointed out they're actually dumb enough to fall for a red herring twice

>>715771727
They can only do an investigation after someone gets stuck in the TV World because they don't have access to police forensics and can only rescue and interview kidnapees and try to prevent further kidnappings. After Mitsuo was caught neither Namatame nor Adachi did anything for a long while, so there wasn't much they COULD do.

For me it's Naoto but I went with Chie on my first playthrough and you can't really go wrong. For me 3 and 5 were a blowout though with Mitsuru and Shogi girl respectively.

>>715771983
if the police lock up the wrong guy for a crime, in that instance the police are being retarded. they are being incompetent at their job. the investigation team have not even the slightest hint who the killer is, and in the end it's up to the player to figure it out. i don't know how you could consider a group called the investigation team that barely does any actually investigating at all competent.

>>715772282
>i don't know how you could consider a group called the investigation team that barely does any actually investigating at all competent.
Because this was in comparison to Naoto, a descendant of Raidou Kuzunoha, a supposed "genius" detective who was actively working WITH the police on this case. Despite all her fame, Naoto turned out to be the dumbest one of them all, even needing the player for help with her stupid family puzzle, refusing to continue if Yu says he's out.

I expect the others to be braindead retarded. I expected Naoto to be anything but.

>>715771727
they give you dialogue options questioning Mitsuo if he attempted/committed all the murders or just the one, but the game doesn't let you change your friend's opinions, and Yu just accepts the situation after mitsuo gets arrested

>>715772505
meh, i'm just speaking to you calling the investigation team competent, they're honestly anything but that. and like the other anon said i still think yukiko is the dumbest. she had pretty much the only clue pointing towards a possible suspect in the entire game prior to namatame and she just doesn't speak it.

>>715765794 (OP)
Rise 100%, only girl worth dating in 4. A consummate cutie and sex icon.

>>715772808
Devil is better if you just want pump and dump sex

>>715765794 (OP)
Naoto is defined by her insecurity. I'm not sure if she's more fun on her s.link or do you just spend all the months with her fixing her. Rise is a fine, more typical woman. She has layers, her persona is s confident or even promiscuous lady. She's fun even though deeper she has conflicts and insecurity.

Ultimately Yukiko and Chie are better though.

>>715773046
>Ultimately Yukiko and Chie are better though.
substantiate your claims motherfucker

>>715773046
>Yukiko
what is there even to like about yukiko

>>715773117
yamato nadeshiko
inferiority complex so she's very easy to bully (with my penis)

>>715773117
pantyhose
japanese tradwife

>>715773481
is trad just synonymous with boring?

>>715773639
If you dont want a virgin you are a cuck.

>>715773743
>if you don't want something you'll never have you're a cuck
good luck with that
also if you've ever fucked a virgin you'd know it sucks

>>715773743
every one of these dumbass highschoolers is a virgin going by how flustered they get when you say basic shit like "I wanna get closer to you"

>>715773639
No

>>715771089
The fuck would you lust after anyone when you reek small dick energy, also your exaggerated nostalgia means you clearly failed at life. Stick to your crappy vidya low test fag.

>>715774118
we got an internet tough guy over here

>>715774079
seriously though are there any dating sims where the girls aren't infantile retards?

>>715774163
Not everyone is a shut in hiki like (You). Touch grass

>>715773848
Better than being a cuck

>>715774256
why else would you be here

>>715774294
>projection

>>715773743
all of the p4 girls are though

>>715774518
>he thinks rise is a virgin
fucking kek

>>715774518
hanako is very experienced

I've been listening to the commentary tracks for the Persona 4 anime, a lot of the male staff and voice actors really like Chie and Nanako, and a lot of the female staff and voice actors really like Dojima and Adachi, suprisingly

>>715766174
>the first encounter with rise is her being tired while wearing uncute work clothes
>once she joins the party properly it's all cutesy hyper girl act leaning into narukami
i hate idols i hate idols i hate idols
fucking nips and their obsession with kayfabe, does BIG IDOL threaten to kill everyone trying to be more realistic, or is it pure otaku pandering? what sort of otaku would want *his* girl to be an idol anyway?

>>715775028
she was stressed out

>>715765794 (OP)
I would never betray Kanji!

>>715775190
Kanji had no chance to begin with. She was not interested.

>>715775092
COULD IT IN ANY WAY BE RELATED TO THE SOULCRUSHING JOB THAT COMPELS HER TO ACT LIKE A GIRLFRIEND CHARACTER AT ALL TIMES
THE JOB THAT FORCED HER TO MOVE AWAY INTO A MIDDLE OF NOWHERE TO MINIMIZE THE PUBLICITY

>>715775357
Yep - though it’s important to note that Rise’s behavior towards (Yu) is genuine. Rise was at the lowest point of her life, and in walks the man of her dreams like a knight in shining armor. Plus, she just doesn’t hide that she’s into (Yu). She likes him, so she pursues him. The issue, of course, is that because of her job, she acts a certain way about it. To be fair, she’s only barely 16 and has been doing an extremely demanding job that she’s only just left.

>>715776041
I genuinely wonder how much of their personality comes as a result of their arcana and the gameplay choices associated with them rather than just writing them as characters first. Since Rise is The Lovers and all the correct choices in her S. Link are the obviously romantic ones and whatnot

>>715776041
yeah sure there's a million excuses to make when you're the one writing a character in the first place
then your former idol can in fact have pretty much the same personality as her on-stage idol persona and you can also grandstand about bringing joy to the masses and the nobility of live performance (please pay no attention to the fact that organized crimimals run like half of entertainment industry)
that shit was also awful in yakuza 5

>>715765794 (OP)
naoto is kind of dumb, conceptually. I don't think they executed her concept very well at all, it doesn't really work

>>715765794 (OP)
Naoto's tits are bigger

>>715766227
>What if you're into NTR?
why are you playing P4 then? isn't that a no-no game for trannies?

>>715765794 (OP)
both are mid