How should a dev handle criticism of their game?

Can't you phonetoddlers stay on discord if you want to discuss the latest eceleb drama?

Isn't this just yandere dev 2.0?

>>715772170
Yes but even funnier

>>715772005 (OP)
lol that was clearly a falseflag poster to be fair, gotta reel them in a little bit more and undermine in more subtle psychological ways if you're gonna infiltrate a discord

He should just give out refunds but he won't because he thinks that's admitting defeat

>>715772391
The guy has been in the discord for a year

>>715772693
HE SAID IT
HE SAID ITTTTTT

END OF RINE
------------------------------- < RINU ENDS HERE

>>715772005 (OP)
Heartbound is the worst game I've ever played. It's not even "so bad it's good", it's just... nothing.
It's not even good furrybait. I have played literally every furry VN in existence, and even I think Heartbound is irredeemable garbage.
He could spend 8 more years developing it and it still wouldn't be good. He simply doesn't have the talent. Pirate Software is a disgrace to the furry community.

>>715772005 (OP)
>How should a dev handle criticism of their game?
The correct answer is to always ignore and never acknowledge.

To stfu and make it better whether or not it appeals to fans or the dev

>>715772693
DING DONG

>>715772005 (OP)
You know how

>>715772005 (OP)
What game and what's the drama about?

>>715774957
Kidneystuck

Like this

>>715773280
OOOOOOOH BIIOOOWAARE SUCK MY DIIIIICKKKKKAAAAH!

>>715775094
they even commented on my review

>>715772693
*streches*
Insane behavior

>>715774957
Heartbound. 8 years development and it's less than halfway done. It's a shitty Undertale ripoff

>>715775506
That dev really knows what he's talking about because I absolutely am going to check that game out this very second

>>715778114
>currently 70% off on steam
Not from the US but that must end up being <10 us dollars, which is an absolute steal for the amount of game you get.

>>715778650
Yeah I already bought it

>>715772005 (OP)
These screenshots are too high resolution for my monitor. It's blowing up my modem. Please downscale

>>715772005 (OP)
threaten to kill anyone who talks badly about your game

>>715772005 (OP)

>>715772170
Thor is stumbling down a hill into a pit. Yanderedev was born in the pit.

>>715774278
No, the correct answer is to read and understand why they're being critical. Bad devs lash out against criticism like children throwing a tantrum or even attack the critic directly. Good devs can brush it off or even learn from it.

>>715772005 (OP)
>read it
>don't let on that you read it
>consider fixing the problem
>watch as the criticism pile dwindles
But you know, that requires being professional so fuck that

>>715779058
kek

>>715779267
If his ego let him he could have just said
>I did not have all the facts of the SKG movement, i misunderstood and went off i apologise. I was concerned about the ways in which government regulation can impact the industry in unintended ways.
And he would not be a click farming face for every youtube drama or commentary channel.
But now he has an arrogant stick up his ass and is doing the "never apologise" tactic.
he has fucked his entire streaming career up.

>>715772005 (OP)
This isn't Kiwifarms. Fuck off you dramafaggots.

>>715772693
END OF RINE!!!

>>715779476
An arrogant gnome up his ass you mean

>>715779476
It's amazing that most of this could've been saved by not being an ass about it. Hell, being quiet about it would've been preferable, because then the drama wave could've blown over with no more fuel for the fire.
The WoW thing.
The Ashens of Creation thing.
The SKG thing.
The Coding Jesus thing (to be fair, this one is a lot more grey but still didn't warrant the response).
The EVE online thing (Jesus christ he has a habit of pissing off MMO players huh?)
The Second Life thing.

>>715772005 (OP)
Why do people get so emotionally and financially invested in these random ass fucking indie games

>>715779567
Yea my bad, i just recently found out about his proclivities.

>>715779549
This is literally about Vidya

>>715772693
RINE ENDS HERE

>>715779582
Eve online?

>>715779582
>The Coding Jesus thing
This part of the drama is the weakest.
Because it is just a useless argument over the best way to hammer a nail.

>>715772005 (OP)
The parasocial grindset destroys mental health.

>>715779686
I disagree. He claims to be a code god and is shit at code
>But he's a solo dev
Doesn't matter. Also his shit code is at least partly why his game takes so long

>>715775094
>>715775506
wtf i will now try troubleshooter
is it really like xcom or is it all memeing

>>715779686
>the guy who claims to have 20 years of gamedev experience is literally so shit he codes worse than people that never coded before

Ignore it. The game is already out.

>>715779659
tl;dr based on my knowledge:
EVE Online had a new area that was hard to get to, Maldavius' group were able to get there and rule the area thanks to bugs and exploits. Once they got the area all set up for them, they reached out to the devs to fix the bugs so that more players can come through and so they can control the economy of the area. The devs fixed it, to which Maldavius takes credit for it. The devs then gave compensation to players because of the bug that stopped them from playing in this area of the game, which destroyed the work of Maldavius' group, to which he had an absolute meltdown over it and then promptly left the EVE online community.
There is probably a better explanation, the one I saw got confusing talking about seagulling which is the idea of participating in a raid by tailing a raid group, shooting one shot dealing minimal damage to one enemy, then bugging out and getting the rewards of the raid so fuck if I know.

>>715779736
I a mostly talking the perspective of an outsider.
I understand that you think the code is bad.
But the big picture is that it is 2d underfag game that could run on a smart fridge. Not a UE5 game that needs optimising up the ass.
It is also not a FOSS product. It is one and done game, nobody cares about porting it to the future or maintaining his code. Once it is not relevant anymore, it will go in the dustbin of history,
>>715779865
His bragging about it and getting caught out is funny. But as i said, it just devolves in to retard takes on the best way to hammer a nail.

The hate against Pirate Software makes me wanna watch him. I used to get him in youtube short recommendations but i found his paint explanations and his puberty excuse boring so i click don't recommend again

But now this whole "my faovirte youtuber told me to hate him so i'm gonna spam and talk about him 24/7" is making me wanna subscribe.

>>715780019
>Don't jump off that bridge
>FUK U I WONT DO AS U TELL ME
>Dies

>>715779967
The problem is that besides his lady coding streams where he plays games or draws shit in mspaint for hours on end, the code is actually slowing game development down because of how inefficient it is. Hard coded story elements and some of his conditionals must be a refactoring nightmare if he decides to change something regarding a game event or the story script.
t. knower.

>>715779967
> it just devolves in to retard takes on the best way to hammer a nail.
Yeah when you see retard trying to hammer the nail with his head while actual construction workers tell him about things called “hammer” it’s very fucking funny, especially because retard then tries to defend his hammering technique

>>715780127
*lazy

>>715780127
>the code is actually slowing game development down because of how inefficient it is.
Aint that part of the whole early access scam?
You may as well call out every dev who uses that mainstream Steam system. Because they all take years to finish a game. Mald aint special or doing anything that another 50.000 other game devs aint doing right now.

>>715779780
it's a little hard to describe but in terms of the actual combat anime Xcom is the simplest way to describe it that isn't wrong.

There's no permadeath/create a characters, all units you control are characters in the story and each have their own unique abilities/stat growths etc. The character you start with is a melee swordsman with a couple of (limited) ranged options. Depending on how you build him (the game has a MASSIVE amount of build tweaking/customization) you can make him a mega tank melee combatant with raw block power+stats, a hit and run striker that can blow people up with a ranged attack if he gets a clear angle, a much less tanky but extremely high lifesteal assassin, etc.

Some characters are a bit more restrained, for example while you CAN make the 2nd character you unlock into a more melee/physical damage focused playstyle, he is very clearly aligned towards being a glass cannon magic artillery nuker.

I strongly recommend the game if xcom with premade units that can get absolutely unbelievably powerful (relative to standard xcom units) as you power them up but enemies still remain threatening AS LONG AS you play on Cruel difficulty, which i recommend.

>>715780279
Most of them don't have a smoking gun on why development is taking forever and still claim they are an indie developer.

>>715778114
even the jaded old fucks at the codex said good things about it despite hating anime, not my genre but the gameplay must really be something

>>715779106
Tell me about Yanderedev, why does he drink the cum chalice?!

>>715772005 (OP)
Take it as a sign to do better.

>>715780326
Doesn't it also say in the steam fine print that early access games can stall and stop development at any time for any reason?
He has no legal responsibility to follow your stop watch bro.

>>715780413
It's called recycling
Checking every single email you get takes a lot out of a man, he needs to get back whatever he can

>>715780451
True, but he also made a 2mb update to update...relatively minor shit like one (uno) sprite to not be hit by the "This project may be abandoned" after not updating for 14 months.

>>715780325
thanks for the writeup anon, i'll check it out

>>715780394
They're a strange bunch, I remember them being all excited over a Sengoku Rance let's play. I guess they give weeb stuff a pass when it's genuinely good.

>>715774278
Just do what Bimmy does and trot out the same lame "but muh kids" excuse.

>>715780507
I would be mad, if it was not for the fact that CP2077 just put out a big update full of nonetent and making popular mods in to baseline.

>>715780542
since the average age on that forum is likely higher than on places like /v/ the users have ideas that are more defined and set in stone for what they want, but even they can tolerate a bunch of bullshit if the mechanics are good (especially since the shit they like is pretty niche so you gotta take what you can get)

>>715772005 (OP)
for a guy whose image revolves around being a pirate he sure is a bitch

>>715780915
I can decide who is the worse pirate.
Him or Styxhexenhammer right now.

>>715772005 (OP)
yeah but did you know he worked at blizzard??

>>715781226
>That supercut video.

>>715780948
What happened with styx. He was always an edgelord weirdo trying to look cool despite being a scrawny nerd so I'd expect that much at least, but I haven't heard of him in years.

>>715772005 (OP)
by not listening to it, in any shape or form
just make the game you want to make, if its successful great, if its not, you made YOUR game

>>715781321
I like the bit where he brags about being a nepo hire like that was a "first" to be proud of.

>>715781323
>Rightwing family man politics
>Domestic abuse conviction, because his brain has turned to mush from drinking.
>Started claiming his owl demon thing is killing people at his request.
>Is so drunk, that even Quatering had to kick him off his show.
>Now he is dressed in a pirate hat and doing livestreams while obviously so drunk he can't stand up.

>>715780127
I wondered how he is going to run tests on that mess but then I remembered he doesn't bother with error handling, logging or any of the things meant for mistake making amateurs anyway :D

So let me get this straight:
>He's THE first second generation Blizzard employee
>but he's NOT a nepobaby
>He's a game industry veteran of 20 years
>but codes like hes been doing it for a month generous estimation
>and designed a knockoff copy of undertale

>>715782025
You got a fuckin problem with that?

>>715782025
>>and designed a knockoff copy of undertale
and it's been in development for 8 years, with a team i think?
pixel made cave story in 5 years, by himself

>>715780127
I get stressed just thinking about what happens when he needs to add a new line of dialogue and a story flag for an existing character. Does he just add it at the end so stuff related to X in in indexes from 100 to 150 and also 385 in his giant story table or does he shift everything down where the indexes are all magic numbers used in random places in the whole game.

>>715782153
It's much less stressful when you consider that it's not actually intended to become a finished product that will need to work

>>715782153
lmao what do you mean a giant table
no way he has a fucking 500 long switch statement in his code, right?
right?

>>715782296
He haves

>>715782025
Yes and he somehow he managed to get away with this for a while because he speaks confidently in a low voice and the sort of wannabe "game developers" who spend more time talking about how they are going to make a game rather than make a game find him inspirational. Makes sense because he's one of them.


Also, in reality his industry experience is like 2 separate stints as a QA tester that were under a year and him being a "hacker" was sending simulated phishing emails to karen from accounting.
He has no programming experience.

>>715782025
>>and designed a knockoff copy of undertale
and made it even more gay and more furry than undertale

>>715775094

>>715782343
bullshit
show git, i will laugh my sides off if this is true

>>715782542
now THATS an achievement worth bragging about.

>>715782426
>because he speaks confidently in a low voice and the sort of wannabe "game developers" who spend more time talking about how they are going to make a game rather than make a game find him inspirational.
One of the funnest aspects of this, is that his Discord is full of defenders, purely for the reason they think he can give them a "in" in to the gaming industry, because of said con man level speak.
When it the SKG shit first broke with his original take on it. He had people in that discord going
>They have no idea he can supa hack them all
Clearly showing they have been tricked in to his bullshit.

>>715782567
>show git, i will laugh my sides off if this is true
you will laugh your sides off, but not for the shit code
https://github.com/PirateSoftware

>>715772005 (OP)
Why even bother responding to criticism? This is like a bad move for any devs. You aren't doing any PR's you're a fucking game dev, work on the stupid fucking game.

>>715780325
Sounds a lot like Tactical Breach Wizards (which i liked very much). I'll check it out

>>715782296
Yes and nested ones, but also something like
story[0] = 1
story[1] = 2
story[2] = 0
...
story[385] = 1

and he checks those flags by if(story[123] == 2)
What is story entry 123 and what does it mean to be set to 2 who knows. He doesn't use defines or enums for any of it and uses the values inconsistently so even 1 doesn't always mean the event has happened/

Isn't this just project zomboid?

>>715782649
1.If you are a dev who is not making progress on your game
2.If your game is early access and people expect things to happen, ideally progress and regular updates, or they will assume it's abandoned
3.Drama from elsewhere has everyone laser focused on you, which makes it more damning if you go radio silent
4.Your reputation and income isn't dependent on your game, but on cultivating a community of fans who you need to keep roped in

>>715779945
Thanks

>>715782704
Providing screen

>>715772005 (OP)
>muh good faith

that's how you know someone has no actual arguments. fucking hate it when someone says that shit.

>>715779967
Did you even read my post Jason? It's not about optimization, it's about the code being so shit it makes dev time take longer and this is from an "expert"

>>715782704
>>715782828

>>715782704
>it's cool bro I'll just remember what each of those means

>>715782869
>>715782828
I still can't get over that his explanation is
>This is for the ARG bro
Like there weren't a thousand different and better ways to do the ARG... not that an ARG should be a focus when only 1 chapter is fully completed.

>>715779967
Even the smartfridge stuff is a lie since it wasn't actually running on it but instead was used as a 2nd monitor

>>715782921
>this is for the ARG
meanwhile a good game with an ARG

>>715772005 (OP)
>"ok"
>keep doing what you do

>>715783020
Which reminds me of another funny Pirate fuck up
>Play puzzle game known for puzzles that took the community weeks to figure out "blind"
>Suddenly have light bulb moments
>Figure out a puzzle he literally does not have all the pieces for because the game was designed that the pieces where in different copies of the game
>Also with an explanation on how to do it that was only discovered a day ago.

>>715782867
>so shit it makes dev time take longer
He has no obligation to follow your schedule bro
Curb that unwarranted self importance and focus on what Mald has done wrong and not make up shit.
Nobody fucking cares how long it takes him to make a game.

>>715782704
if you're high IQ enough to memorize everything and working solo, this is the most efficient way to code. most "best practices" in coding serve the purpose of simplifying and streamlining the code for human understanding, which is only necessary if you're on a team or not smart enough to be able to parse your own code (admittedly, requires extremely high mental faculties to memorize large tables of magic numbers, I'm not saying somebody is retarded for not being able to do this it's like a 145+ IQ guy thing)

>>715782214
So he just expects people to buy in to a project with the full expectation that he has no intention of finishing it? Man, steam early access has really allowed scumbags to cheat people out of their money quite effectively.

>>715782704
>>715783020
>>715782828
fucking lmao is this for real, i refuse to believe it
he doesn't even use bools, just ones and zeros, hahahahahhahahaa
you could literally ask chatgpt on how to implement this in a better way and every single response would be better than this travesty, what the fuck
if i did at at work i'd get fucking sacked

>>715783286
>Nobody fucking cares how long it takes him to make a game.
I'm sure the backers care about it

>>715783292
>if you're high IQ enough to memorize everything and working solo, this is the most efficient way to code
except nobody is, except for maybe some hyperautistic types

>>715783292
There is no fucking way you are going to remember 560 different flags, their uses and any potential expansion you want to do, especially with our master programmer here taking several months off from it.

>>715783292
Enums are just as efficient. The compiler treats it as a number.

>>715783327
Steam has clear fucking guide lines and warnings about that. It tells you right next to the add to cart button.
Please stop posting easily defeated bullshit. You are going to give him a win. Never give a lolcow a win.

>>715772005 (OP)
KWAB

>>715783424
steam? I'm talking about kickstarter.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/piratesoftware/heartbound

>>715783424
Except he had a timeline on the kickstarter for the game and it is well over due and it reached the goal it required.
People can and should be pissed about that.

>>715782426
>because he speaks confidently in a low voice
even that is fake
he projects confidence but in reality he's the definition of insecure. i'm willing to bet a million zimbabwean dollars that when his father got him the job at Blizzard he was told to fake it until he made it and he's been doing that ever since

>>715783493
>>715783501
Please Please Please show yourselves up and let me laugh at you for fail trolling. When you read down the ToS on steam and Kickstarter.
Please

>>715783316
>he doesn't even use bools, just ones and zeros
for me, it's
>BYTE isFlag = TRUE;

>>715783568
Then he should be handing out refunds :^)

>>715783316
>he doesn't even use bools, just ones and zeros, hahahahahhahahaa
Because some of those can have more than 2 states, anon. The screenshot includes several of those

>>715783587
So what does all this mean to someone who doesn't code? Is he just using super basic strings to do things that could be done more efficiently that aren't just "if x then y" logic?

>>715783292
You are not going to remember it for 8 years, also even if you are the kind of autist who could there are just better way to spend your time.
And I wouldn't mind as much if he didn't show it off on stream and make himself out to be some authority on game development.If you are going to claim you have 8 gorrilion years of experience people will nitpick your shitty code.

>>715783646
except those that can have more than 2 states should be enums for readability and maintainability.
those that can only be 2 states should be bools for readability and maintainability.
if you write bools as 0 and 1, then mistakenly write in 2 and wonder why you got the same result as 1, then that alone justifies using true and false.

>>715782921
who the fuck announces that their game has an ARG? what's the point if you're going to explain that shit to people?

>>715782704
How are you supposed to do it then? Do you really wanna define 200 enum types for this shit?

>>715783824
>who the fuck announces that their game has an ARG?
a narcissist who wants to boast about it.

>>715772005 (OP)
he truly is a lolcow

>>715772170
Funny enough his code is worse than yanderedev's.

>>715783852
If you are already writing code comments to remember what it is, yeah. It also means that you can add to previous scenes without fucking up the order of the shit AND without having to refactor a ton of files.

>>715772005 (OP)
>is that an unfinished undertale clone in early access?
>Let me buy the game, buy every piece of merchandise and pay for a monthly subscription on two different services to support this small indie dev with hundreds of thousands of views and a merchandise deal
Actual cattle

>claims his game is so well optimized it can run on a smart fridge
>smart fridge is merely used as a screen, game runs on a laptop

>>715783824
>announces that game will have an ARG
>streams himself programming it
what was he thinking?

>>715783646
allright, but then why not just enum it? hwo the fuck is anyone supposed to know what "conversation_status[235] = 2 means?
i thought everyone was memeing this dude's incompetence but this is off the fucking charts, this is junior level

>>715784073
>hwo the fuck is anyone supposed to know what "conversation_status[235] = 2 means?
By looking it up in the list where he commented everything

>>715783852
>Do you really wanna define 200 enum types for this shit?
What's wrong with that? Once you get it done, your IDE should be able to auto complete, saving you time in the future.

>>715772005 (OP)
Depends
If it's criticism I agree with then the developer needs to remember that he is making a product first and foremost and his customers are what matters, he needs to be obsequious and acknowledge how we feel no matter how minor or unjustified he thinks the criticisms are. He should take criticism with good grace and promise to fix things as quickly as possible while not sacrificing the quality of the product.
If it's criticism I disagree with then the dev needs to grow a spine and remember that his artistic vision takes precedence over whatever some whiny cucks have to say. Ideally he shouldn't acknowledge them at all, since doing so will only make them think they have some degree of power over him; if his hand is forced he should only mention it in the broadest and most dismissive terms and remind everyone that if they don't like his artistic vision then they can fuck off and kill themselves.

>>715783852
you can do a 2d array storing the enum for the quest and the choice.
in this screenshot >>715782828 we can clearly see that "cafe" has multiple entries, this could have been an enum, the choice the player can make would be another enum
global.storyline_array[cafe][cold_coffee_knowledge]
as a hacky example. Personally I'd do a completely different system where I append each array entry from the quest itself, not manually type in that shit.

>>715784120
>UNUSED
Does this person not know that you can give enum values specific int values?
It's to save bytes isn't it

>>715772005 (OP)
>Subscribe to your streamer
>Buy fucking dogshit game because its made by your streamer
>Buy merch of dogshit game
You deserve everything you fucking nigger

>>715784110
ohhh right, i'll just look up this list of vague comments, instead of, you know, just having an enumerated type that's at least partially self documenting, and that's much easier to search for and refactor and whatnot, and offers much better error control

>>715784110
If you are going to write out the comments anyway putting it in brackets and writing enum in front is zero work. And this way it's easily extendable,can be changed later without breaking anything , readable in places when it's used and your editor will give you suggestions so you won't have to look it up when writing code either.

>>715783681
He's using what's called 'magic numbers.' This is where you put numbers in your code that don't have some obvious meaning to them.

>>715782828
Let's say at some point he needs to change the flag for whether he obtained coffee or not. At some other point in his codebase, he would have to write "global.storyline_array[210] = 1;" In the screenshot, you can see that the 210th element in storyline_array corresponds to whether or not coffee has been obtained, and that the values of 0, 1, and 2 correspond to various states, in this case 1 representing that the coffee has been obtained. This is because there's a comment right next to the line declaring global.storyline_array[210] = 0;

In some other part of the game's code, that comment won't be there, so when he changes the flag in those sections of the code to handle the player acquiring coffee, it will be really hard to tell what the fuck the line,
>global.storyline_array[210] = 1;
means in isolation. If you come back to this a month later, you'll have no idea what the fuck this line of code is doing, which makes rewriting code, debugging, etc. a pain in the ass. A typical way of dealing with this would be to do something like use a compiler macro that lets you re-define words, so you could say:
>#define HAS_COFFEE 210
>#define TRUE 1 && rand(99);
then you can execute the same code by typing
>global.storyline_array[HAS_COFFEE] = TRUE;
And now it's clear what the line of code means.

>>715782921
>This is for the ARG bro
okay
>look at the coding for his other game
>it's exactly the same shit
???

>>715784212
No.
That's Ocarina of Time's decompiled source code. You got the code, but none of the variable names that Nintendo used. The people decompiling need to make up their own variable names because the compiler stripped all that info out.
It's cut content, Link was going to have additional states but they removed them. The person decompiling has no idea what that cut content is, so they just named it unused. Maybe Nintendo had the name "PLAYER_START_MODE_FLYING" for the enum or something, but we'll never know.

>>715772005 (OP)
nah enough with this american "turn the other cheek" shit. Commenter is started off as an asshole - he gets treated like one.

>>715784542
So they looked at the code and figured out the player state enums based on what is happening in the actual engine code for that state? Mad impressive

>>715784574
Fucking kek.

Holy shit he's actually coding on stream.
Or at least scrolls code up and down while reading chat.

>>715784802
>guys please watch him to corroborate my statement
lol no

>>715784864
>watch him
I’ll watch video about him

>>715782828
This retard is the proof that you can make a game even if you dont know how to code
Well, a RPG Maker one at least

>>715784964
Isn't the whole point of RPGMaker that any non-coder can make a game

>>715782296
ofc not silly
Its 999 cases long, at least

>>715785026
kek my bad

>>715784964
See, I got the opposite problem where I know how to code a game, but I can't make assets to save me.
One is easier to rectify than the other, though.

>>715779476
Bold of you to think someone who gets involved in drama over and over again (see >>715779582) could ever refuse more drama. He's a narcissist; they crave this shit because it's the only way they can feel alive. Drama offers them a road to power, but sometimes it fails and then they have a meltdown, which is another form of saving the ego through violence, which again asserts power in the narcissist's mind.

>>715784964

Toby Fox has god awful coding skills and he still makes it work. Though Toby doesn't pretend that he's a good programmer and he's working game maker which is god awful compared to the other options we have today.
Good coding is ideal but it's better to at least have a finished projected, which PS doesn't even have.

I am unironically struggling to think of a way to handle a giant list of cases that the player linearly goes through. That kind of thing doesn't really come up in B2B software

>>715785016
Heartbound uses Game Maker. Easier than other engines, but more prone to failure than RPG Maker.
And RPG Maker isn't fool proof either. Fear And Hunger has lag spikes because the game is checking, every single footstep, for events like does your step alert enemies, if enemy should spawn, moving time forward. I believe taking a single step means a few hundred lines of code is executed.

>>715785263
>taking a single step means a few hundred lines of code is executed.
Is that actual code the dev has to write? I was under the impression that RPGMaker is a WYSIWYG tool where you drag together states and connections between them

>>715783292
Nigger
You make it FROM THE START so that you dont have to do this
Yes, if you make a fucking array to put everything in, you have to put everything in the fucking array like a stupid retard, and still you can do it less stupidly

>>715772005 (OP)
Why does any care about this tranny's game anyway? Is there any reason to think the game should be good?

Why is this "I've been QA in Blizzard" loser treated like Miyamoto?

>>715785116
I gotchu senpai

In video game programming, when the player goes through a linear sequence of events, conditions, or cases, you want a solution that is scalable, readable, and maintainable.

General Strategies

1. Finite State Machine (FSM)

Best for: Clearly distinct states (e.g. tutorials, game phases, mission steps)
Use a state enum or string identifier to represent each step.
Transition to the next state based on input or conditions.

```python
class GameState(Enum):
START = auto()
INTRO_DIALOGUE = auto()
MOVE_TUTORIAL = auto()
BATTLE_TUTORIAL = auto()
END = auto()

def update_game(state):
if state == GameState.START:
play_intro()
return GameState.INTRO_DIALOGUE
elif state == GameState.INTRO_DIALOGUE:
show_dialogue("Welcome!")
return GameState.MOVE_TUTORIAL
# ...
```

2. List or Queue of Callable Functions

Best for: Linear sequences of logic (like story events or scripted actions)
Store each case as a function, and call them one after the other.

```python
events = [show_intro, move_tutorial, battle_tutorial, end_scene]
current_event = 0

def next_event():
global current_event
events[current_event]()
current_event += 1
```

3. Script/Data-Driven Approach

Best for: Narrative/dialogue-heavy or highly linear gameplay
Define each "case" as data (JSON, YAML, etc.) and interpret it at runtime.

```json
[
{ "type": "dialogue", "text": "Welcome!" },
{ "type": "move", "target": "x:10,y:5" },
{ "type": "wait", "duration": 2 },
{ "type": "battle", "enemy": "Slime" }
]
```

This lets writers or designers update the flow without touching code.

4. Coroutines / Generators

Best for: Step-by-step sequences that might need pausing (e.g. cutscenes)

```python
def tutorial_sequence():
yield show_dialogue("Welcome!")
yield wait_for_input()
yield play_animation("jump")
```

>he should've just done this and that
you guys have to understand he's a clinical narcissist with a superiority complex and telling him to admit being wrong or apologizing is the same as telling a cripple to just walk

>>715785538
yeah, that's why it's so funny

>>715785538
I like it because it does help other amateur programmers to go "huh, that's neat" and implement those design patterns into their games.

>>715785357

F&H has custom scripts/plugins they're using which results in that. RPGmaker coding at it's most basic is often using checkboxes and has built in if-else tools and all the other basic stuff that you'd need to make a Final Fantasy 1 clone, but more advanced RPGs you will need to actually code and program, use plugins, adjust those plugins to suit your purposes, etc.

>>715772005 (OP)
Why are so many men such fucking paypigs all the time?
Imagine giving your money to the development of some game just so that you... get a copy? Not even a share of the profits? Fucking pathetic.

>>715785538

honestly if his game was done or near done and he was just like "yeah my coding is ass but at least it's done and runs" it would be fair enough
but since it's not done and he acts like he's hot shit, he does deserve to get shit on

>>715785761
Patreon is genius
>random dude thinks some dev looks like he's making a cool game
>signs up for $3 a month
>forgets about it a year later
>still being charged
>Patreon guy now has free money with no goals tied to it

>>715783292
but his game runs like shit and is still not done after over 10 years in development

>>715783852
If I had to maintain that pile of shit with the same general implementation? 100% guaranteed.
I'd rather see

>123_MARY_BUTT_FUCKED_JOE == MAYBE
than a cryptic
>global.storyline[123] == 2

>>715785873
based and adding a MAYBE state to all enums pilled

>>715785442
thanks gpt-anon

>>715779106
Moulded by the pit
He didn't see a girl until he was already a man

>>715785870
same with pretty much every subscription service
>subscribe to some netflix-like to watch something
>forget about it
>get charged for 6 months

>>715785873
>maybe
lel, reminds me of this https://thedailywtf.com/articles/what_is_truth_0x3f_

>>715782695
had that game on my wishlist for years and it finally released some time ago
how was it?

>>715785968
Enum Bool2 {
true,
false,
maybe,
whosAsking,
canYouRepeatTheQuestion
}

>>715785873
Yeah, there's probably better way to keep track of story progress than keep it in one array. I'd split it by quest/location/character/whether is the most relevant but still this is still such an improvement.
Also even if you insist on keeping everything in one data structure you could use maps or something at least
>story[joe][sex][butt] = fucked
Would be valid in say python at least

>>715785357
Oh boy if you want to get anywhere with the engine there are about 20 essential add-ons you have to configure and tinker with unless you want to make the most basic bitch possible final fantasy 1 clone.
I just looked up one of the games I had on hand and it has about 140 plugins.

is the ferret rescue real

>>715786554
He has a big room of ferrets, yes. The question is whether it qualifies as a rescue

>>715786446
Actually now that I think of it this is getting dangerously close to keeping story flags in a json file unfortunately Jason probably doesn't know what that is

>>715786231
Kek, exactly what I was referring to

>>715783292
>He's not a hoarder, he's just a high IQ guy who knows where everything in his house is!

>>715785873
#define MAYBE randint(0,1)

>>715782025
>but codes like hes been doing it for a month generous estimation
I saw some goober analyze his code that came to the conclusion that he actually does know how to write code, but chooses to do it in the last efficient way possible to make his code look more complex to a layman. He writes the same function multiple different ways in the same block just so it'll look more complicated and advanced.
To me it checks out because the cunt grifts his "fanbase" like his life depended on it. Heartbound never coming out is part of the plan at this point.

>>715772170
Yandere dev didn't work for blizzard

>>715786819
Hoarding means having lots of stuff, not keeping literal trash around

>>715783286
>claims game will be done by 2018
>2025 and game still only halfway done
When you claim you can finish your game in 2 years and are sitting on 8 you can expect people to be mad. He even pulled the classic VN author excuse of being sick for a year.

>>715787053
t. hoarder

>>715784574
omg that game LOL

>>715787053
lmao no

>>715787074
>classic VN author excuse of being sick for a year.
with fucking what, terminal cancer?

>>715772005 (OP)
>The game centers around a boy who deals with depression, anxiety, and fear
faggot game lmao

>>715787197
hahahahhaha that's fucking gold, who made this? tremendously based

>>715782869
kino

>>715786906
enum BooleanFlags
{
TRUE,
FALSE,
MAYBE
}

>>715772005 (OP)
Don't mention criticism ever. You may take criticism into consideration but never respond to it. The more you poke at your audience, good or bad, the more they will try to influence you, good or bad. Stick to your own guns.

Alternatively, act like a Japanese game dev and respond to criticism by doing a really arbitrary thing to your game that no one wanted yet it's exactly what people wanted with no elaboration.

>>715779686
https://youtu.be/t9ntudwbCMw?si=Nw8RN60ZV6kJZ1iK&t=640

>>715788498
Yeah. When getting criticism they are either wrong, in which case fuck them you don't need to respond or they are right and you have to decide how to fix it.

>>715789483
>they are either wrong
Weirdly enough, this always seems to be the case for Jason's critics

>>715772170
Someone needs to get him a cum chalice.

>>715783292
You should be following best practices or at minimum writing comments so when you revisit your shitcode seven months later you understand the nuance of what it's actually doing.

>>715772170
Yandev somehow manages to make more progress.

>>715772693
>a little joke about me making about 2hours of content in 8 years
>insane behavior
Insane behavior.

>>715785761
Supporting things you enjoy is a good thing.

>>715783959
They're both self taught and have no idea what they're doing but yandev doesn't claim to be a 20 year industry vet

>>715772005 (OP)
They should say "if you dont like my game you are jewish"

>>715782649
Even if you wanted to respond to criticism there is one right way to do so but its one that doesn't work for every criticism.
>Game lacks X
>Thanks for the review, we added X and apologise it wasn't there to begin with

>>715772005 (OP)
Probably by pissing and screaming and telling you that if you don't give them money they can't pay Twitch jannies to ban 1900 people in one day

>>715793554
>buying your daughter a furry game

>meanwhile in finland

>>715794253
Looking at the list of Finnish games, what the fuck are those spurdo motherfuckers doing all day to create fucking great games?

>>715794408
alcohol + half a year of darkness

>>715794408

>>715783292
This. I've actually taken out the registries in my CPU because I remember exactly which instructions to feed it every cycle.

>>715794408
I have a gut feeling that if Jason ever came here foaming at mouth and telling people to show their own games if it is so easy, a handful of finns would post their own games they made in fraction of the time. And the code would probably be industry standard or above.

>>715795609
He grew up on 4chan (16/17 years old when 4chan launched btw)

>>715795609
>a handful of finns would post their own games they made in fraction of the time.
>I'm on observation duty
>an indie horror game made by some finnish dude
>english computer science guy makes a video on beating the game through hacking it
>discovers the source code is written in finnish
>And the code would probably be industry standard or above.
That would be hilarious

>>715795768
Eh I think that's fine to say grew up on. Especially when you're a 38 year old man.
The real embarrassment of him saying that shit is that he was boasting about how internet shit doesn't bother him and then literally posted a screencap of 4chan on his Discord crying that someone joked he was a tranny that would kill himself

>>715794253
binlan mention

Samanthor arc soon

>>715772005 (OP)
By growing a pair of balls and calling people who criticized you a faggot.

>>715779058

>>715772005 (OP)
"Thanks for the feedback" and leave the seething in private

>>715797569
low T

>>715786134
Not that anon but it plays more like Into the Breach imo than XCom. Definitely feels like each level is more of a puzzle than a tactical battle

>>715775094
kek

>>715797669
Its good business to not be prissy little bitch over some one saying you suck whining on twatter about how they don't know how hard it is to make a game.

>>715782025
>and designed a knockoff copy of undertale

Maybe I'm just autistic, but this part of the story is one I feel like no one really comprehends and I don't even know how to explain the feeling. Like, if I was writing for The Simpons and wanted to do a knock off parody of Undertale the I would come up with would be Heartbound. Everything about the game in EVERY aspect is him looking at Undertale and going "How can I put zero effort in this while still riding on its coat tails?" Heartbound is like those off brand DVDs of popular pixar movies made purely because they know a retarded grandma can't tell the difference between the real thing and the fake because also she remembers is "Something about a heart and Earth Bound." Like Jesus Christ everything about this game is just fucking bad.

>>715782921
He loves himself too much, what's more likely would be him 'going through 3rd puberty' where his voice suddenly becomes so deep no one can understand him.

>>715779106
Stop calling him Thor. His name is Jason.

>>715799529
Stop calling him Jason. His name is Maldavius.

>>715800179
Stop calling him Maldavius. His name is Malding Faggotry

>>715772005 (OP)
> a single dev
>THEIR
Tranny faggot with its newspeak.

>>715800393
female solo devs exists CHUD

>>715797569
>"Thanks for the feedback"
You already fucked up.

>>715800393
It's "their" in the indeterminative, retard.
>When a player enters the game, THEIR first experience will be
Oh no singular inderminative!!!!!!

>>715801537
his*

>>715801537
There's a brand of american chud really mad about it because they have never read a book and are confused by how English has worked the entire time.

>>715782426
>he managed to get away with this for a while because he speaks confidently in a low voice
honestly, he would be incredibly based if he wasnt a massive narcissist that believes his own lies

>>715794408
The blood of the Fingolian empire still runs thick hence their untapped greatness that tends to show itself on occasion.

>>715772170
Yandev was a nonamer who's coding is self taught, this guy's a supposed professional gamedev as a former blizzard employee.
And yet yandere sim was somehow the better game, the more complete game, and the more original game.

>>715802046
>>715801537
Unlike you indoctrinated retards i specifically remember how this filth started to emerge 20 years ago forcing public figures using it under a fear of cancellation and how basic rules of English stated what no other singular pronouns except his or her exist. When you say someone and doesn't sure who it is you use HIS with an exception of female dominated fields as it is every other normal language. I understand why tranny male faggots are using it to revel in their delusion but supposed "normal" people submitting to explicit trannification of their language is revolting.

>>715805890
Hey underage fag, it's been in use in English for way longer than that, before trannies even became a thing. You cannot force your false retarded narrative here. Singular they was never an issue, will never be an issue, and is, in fact, an elegant solution that rolls off the tongue easily. Hence why everyone uses it except retards like you. It's here to stay and there's nothing you can do about it.

>>715779476
His excuse why he didn't want to talk to Ross was the most pathetic attempt at deflection I've ever seen.
>n-no I have no interest in talking to him because he... uhhh... insulted heckin politicians and that's mean

>>715779686
It would be useless if the guy wasn't claiming to be an industry veteran who can do no wrong. This would be like a self-proclaimed master carpenter trying to use a rubber chicken as a hammer.

>>715805890
Meds, now

>>715779686
No it's not. Not only does PS paint himself as a good programmer, but anyone who knows anything about code will tell you about both performance issues (and Heartbound runs like shit for what it is) and coding debt (which is where you have to spend so much time trying to figure out what you previously coded and what it does that it hinders present and future progress). PS claims the problem is writing right now, but 1) he should just hire someone to write everything then, and 2) how he is storing all his story and dialogue variables means that it is almost certainly not true that his codethulhu is not hindering his ability to get the writing done efficiently regardless.

>>715772005 (OP)
Depends on the criticism but most of the time it should be Working

>>715806267
Reminder to bystanders what this male freak just outset HIMself it attempt to defend HIS delusion about HIS mental illnesses.

>>715779967
>that could run on a smart fridge
Go back to making your game, Maldavius.

>>715806987
Holy ESL.

>>715783560
Speaking of his father: https://www.twitch.tv/yearjoy/clip/ThirstyDignifiedGoldfishOpieOP-XY4ha9yHY_SGGdF_

>>715782649
>Why even bother responding to criticism?
Because he unironically has some sort of a mental illness that compels him to. The pajeet therapy dude suggested just not replying to every little thing and asked how he would feel about that idea and Jason was physically repulsed at the idea.

>>715782786
>which makes it more damning if you go radio silent
Not really, autistically responding to everything just digs himself deeper. Staying silent and maybe working more on the game without making it into a big deal would've saved him a lot of headache.

>>715783292
This is the kind of shit that impresses midwits who have no idea what you're talking about, but it's just blatantly untrue. Using magic numbers instead of descriptive names will never be "the most efficient" way because it keeps adding new abstract things for you to keep in your memory instead of being self explanatory.

>>715803676
Nah. This guy did some QA testing and sat in on other people's penetration tests. But he somehow knows everything about game development and sales from this brief stint his dad got him at the company.
>>715808115
lmao why does his father hate him?

>>715809161
>lmao why does his father hate him?
imagine, you're one of the original founders of a very successful company, and one of your sons ended up becoming a furry.

>>715787354
He claimed he had covid for 9 months after first claiming he didn't have it while also streaming 24/7.

>>715786658
>literally named json
>refuses to use json files
What did he mean by this?

>>715805890
These zoomers will point out some occasional exceptions to the rule and pretend it has been the norm all this time because they don't know any better and have been propagandized their entire lives.

>>715810004
He doesn't get irony, it's not intellectual enough for him.

>>715772005 (OP)
It's incredible how is it is to hear that message in his arrogant bitch voice