Switch 2 emulators will be made illegal before they are even produced.

I have 700 bots continuously downloading and deleting ROM files to generate losses. Nintendo is about to go bankrupt.

A free download does not equate to a lost sale, this is piracy, not theft.
Taking something because it's free is not the same as being someone that would have bought that otherwise.
It's like catering service food a workplace might get, you eat that slop because it's free but would never of your own volition buy that low quality food.

Emulators aren't illegal

No, not even breaking DRM, this is explicitly allowed in the DMCA as an exception for interoperability (allowing a console game to work on another system).

Nintendo would have lost if the yuzu case went to court, they settled out of court because the law is decided by who has more money in the USA.

>>715811339 (OP)
I don't play emulated games so whatever.

>>715811339 (OP)
why dont they just host their shit in russia? didnt they legalize piracy?

>>715811339 (OP)
If only. People who pirate nintendo games should be ashamed.

Are we supposed to feel bad about it? Fuck pirates.

>>715812165
USA sanctions make it so the USA and their vassal states (such as all of Europe except Belarus and Moldova) can't do business with Russia, it's hard to pay for services there.

You could with cryptocurrency, and people do though.

Kohlchan for example is hosted in Russia, to prevent being taken down by the western nanny state.

it's just going to go underground and get hosted from places nintendo bootlickers can't reach
it's impressive that despite raking in more money than ever nintendo insists on streisanding piracy

>>715811860
>A free download does not equate to a lost sale
>It's like catering service food a workplace might get
You're completely misunderstanding the thought process, especially with the catering example of all things. In order to play the game you would have had to have purchased it in some way. The only other way you could have gotten it was if you were lent it by someone who themselves bought it, and their copy comes with the restriction of real life where they are devoid of their copy until you give it back. That's why they count it as a sale per download.

>>715812385
Maybe if pirates weren't stupid enough to brag about it, Nintendo might have kept ignoring them.

>>715812571
This implies that everyone who pirated a game would have bought the game, if they couldn't pirate it

Which obviously isn't true

Probably only a very small % would have bought the game if it wasn't available to pirate

>>715811339 (OP)
the switch 1 emulators are switch 2 emulators retard that's why they went so hard on shutting them all down leading up to the switch 2 announcement.

>>715812687
they could just go for goodwill and ignore them anyway
look at valve, they're basically telling you to crack their shit by mentioning how weak their drm is

>>715812839
>shut them all down
except they didn't, yuzu was the only one that got shut down because they were sharing roms and charging money for access to them

>>715812894
Valve is also full of lazy bastards.

>>715812839
>he doesn't know
That's hasn't been true for even a millisecond if you know about technology evolution especially for mobile hardware.

>>715811339 (OP)
I'm sure this will be just as effective as their war on drugs.

>>715811339 (OP)
How many fucking times do we have to teach you this lesson you retarded shitposting nigger?
EMULATORS ARE NOT ILLEGAL. This was literally a federal court ruling over 2 decades ago. NOBODY has ever had legal action taken against them for making or distributing an emulator. It's always roms, or copyrighted BIOS files, not emulators.

Yuzu got fucked because they were sharing rom files and charging money for access to specific hacks of a game that wasn't even released yet. That's it. That's what got them fucked. Not the emulator. The fact that they were sharing roms and helping people pirate a Nintendo game that wasn't released yet.

>>715812571
Then change the catering example to free samples of lotion or anything else.
Taking something because it's free and wanting to actually buy and thinking it's worth buying are different things.
>>715812385
They've always had a hard line on piracy, the problem is when e-celebs and big mouths advertise the things that are supposed to be on the down low, hush hush.

>>715811339 (OP)
What would you even want to play on a Switch 2 emulator right now?

Nintendo WILL find a way to fuck your ass if you don't develop anonymously

>>715812735
>Probably only a very small % would have bought the game if it wasn't available to pirate
Sure, but the point is that in order for them to have played it at all they would have needed to purchase a copy or be lent one.

>>715812571
If they couldn't pirate it they just wouldn't have played the game, retard. The sale was never on the table.

>>715813019
>Yuzu got fucked because they were sharing rom files
Wrong you fucking retard

They banned anyone who even posted about piracy in their discord.

>charging money for access to specific hacks of a game that wasn't even released yet.

Wrong you fucking retard, they never released any code changes for games before release, let alone charged money for them

Any patches were purely third-party, THE CODE IS OPEN SOURCE, you know what OPEN SOURCE means right? ANYONE can make changes

They banned anyone who even talked ToTK before release

>That's it. That's what got them

YOU ARE SO FUCKING RETARDED

I AM SO SICK OF HEARING CONFIDENTLY WRONG PEOPLE ON THIS TOPIC

NINTENDO SAID A MILLION THINGS IN THEIR LAWSUIT

YOUR FALSE IDEAS OF WHY ARE NO MORE CORRECT THAN NINTENDO COMPLAINING ABOUT TOTK SPOILERS ON TWITTER

>The fact that they were sharing roms

THEY WERE NOT DISTRIBUTING ROMS

THEY BANNED ANYONE WHO EVEN TALKED ABOUT PIRACY ON THEIR DISCORD

>and helping people pirate a Nintendo game that wasn't released yet.

YOU ARE SO SO SO SO SO SO SO SO SO SO SO SO SO SO SO SO SO SO SO SO SO SO SO SO FUCKING RETARDED SHUT THE FUCK UP AND KILL YOURSELF, NEVER POST AGAIN

>>715813220
See >>715813169. It doesn't matter if they wouldn't have played it or not if it wasn't free, the argument from their end is that to access it at all a purchase of the copy would have had to have been made. That's how they handwave the monetary loss.

>>715813169
You can't prove that anybody who downloaded the game would have bought the game instead if piracy wasn't a thing. That's the underlying issue with the idea of dls=lost sales. It's nothing more than a leap in logic.

>>715813427
see>>715813438 Goddamn why do tripfags always have to be retarded.

>>715813438
>>715813684
Like I said for the third time, it doesn't matter if people would or would not have bought it if it wasn't free. The way they get their monetary amounts is through the logic that to play it at all you would have had to have purchased it. People not playing it at all if it wasn't free is irrelevant to them because to them a download would have had to have been a purchase. They're taking the information they have at face value instead of with any nuance to point to it and go "Look at how bad it is and how much money we lost."

>>715811860
It's true that 90%+ of people who pirate something likely wouldn't have paid for it anyways, but the "lost sales" doesn't hurt them much. What really pissed them off was the fact that pirates were enjoying their games a week before launch, with better performance, for free.

It might help if you visualize games like women. Paypigs have to take them out for dinner, buy them a few gifts, then finally after spending a bunch of money she'll let you shag her. Now imagine one of these paypigs had date planned for a girl next week, and was going to try and ask for sex afterwards. But then he sees a bunch of pirates walk up, rip her clothes off, and fuck her silly every in hole for 7 days, then walk off like nothing ever happened.

The problem here isn't that the girl didn't get her dinners or gifts (aka "lost sales"), it's that she was enjoyed by people who didn't bother to court her. Piracy is like digital rape.

>>715811339 (OP)
Let's be honest, people were and are retarded to do emulation over current gen shit. No one cares if you pirate fifth or sixth Gen stuff.

>>715813419
why are you so angry

>>715813983
If you don't start as early as possible you end up like the Xbox 1 emulation where almost nothing works because people stopped caring
I'm 100% sure that if CEMU didn't start when it did there would be no functional Wii U emulator and the like 3 Wii U exclusives not released anywhere would be lost in the void

>>715813876
Then what the fuck are you even arguing if you agree the reasoning is broken and doesn't work. Actually kill yourself

>>715814198
No, people will always care if there's good games on it.

Kek gotta love the
>loss
There was 0 loss of money actually piracy makes money.

>>715811339 (OP)
Nintendo is delusional.

Google
American intelligence agencies

Struggle with controlling the internet. Good luck enforcing repo police for people modding their Switch 2s or people legally downloading roms of games they likely purchased.

It's always morally justified to pirate Nintendo games. No exceptions.

>>715811339 (OP)
Pirating newly released games is fucked up. I'm no moralfag, but you gotta draw the line somewhere.

>>715814198
>Xbox 1 emulation where almost nothing works
Are they lying about 80% of games being playable?

>>715811339 (OP)
are they really loses when those people both wouldn't and couldn't pay for their shit?

Kek

Ok guys, where is the 800 Gb torrent? Not like im interested in any of switch games now, but doesn't hurt to put it alongside backup of entire psp,ps1,ps2,wii, 3ds and gameboy library
too bad this isn't making any corpo bankrupt

>>715814689
Last time I checked most games still have crazy stuttering on any FMV

If I've already spent all of my disposable income on games. And then fileshare myself an additional game beyond that.
How did they lose money? I didn't have any disposable income left to spend. Where was the loss in this scenario?

>>715814885
I only ever played ninja gaiden black and it ran fine, thats the only game I'll have or ever will play on it so I just assumed the list was accurate. Well at least that game works.

>>715814283
I'm not even arguing, I'm saying that's how they get their monetary amounts and you're going off about how not everyone would have played or bought it. That doesn't matter to them, their argument will always be that every single person would need to have bought a copy to play it at all with no nuance behind if the person would have played it in the first place if it wasn't free. They do not care about that nuance.

>>715811339 (OP)
Excellent use of tax payer dollars

>>715811339 (OP)
>$170m
That money could have funded a dozen games... or half a Sony game.

The FBI is spending time going after people who threaten Japanese profits while they deny there's anything fishy with the Epstein case beyond the official narrative.

We really do live in a clown world and sometimes I feel like 90% of humanity has gone insane or perhaps I've gone insane.

>>715813438
>You can't prove that anybody who downloaded the game would have bought it if piracy wasn't a thing
That doesn't need to be proven. The fact that you're playing the game means that the devs deserve your money, and the fact that you're not giving them the money means you're stealing. It's like sneaking into a concert, or a sports game. Sure, you might not have gone if you wouldn't have been able to sneak in for free, and you're standing on the edges instead of taking one of the seats being sold, but you're still stealing.

Little zazen in sakado township.
715815490<<<
Okay so the guy living near Fukushima is his court adviser and they actually have several. Eat bacon onscreen conspicuously.

"I am High Chancellor Dragmire the White yes, what business have you to declare in front of the Gorons?"

>>715813419
>seething
>AND reddit spacing
uh oh, tranny meltie

>>715814689
He was referring to the fact that before ~2018, xbox 1 emulation just didn't really exist at all. Nobody really cared to make an emulator for the ~10 exclusives it has that are worth playing.

>>715811339 (OP)
I'll just mske my own then. fuck you Nintendo

>>715815490
Considering how many people legitimately said they voted for Trump, with no hint of irony or sarcasm, proves that at least in the U.S. a decent amount of them have gone insane.

good luck doing that in china or russia

>download a game 100 times
>the company loses 8000 dollary doos
Lmao get fucked niggers keeeeek

>>715816706
@FBI @NINTENDO @NINTENDOOFAMERICA

>>715814514
>legally downloading roms of games they likely purchased
This happens so little it's almost comical, your made up defense for emulation gets cracked the moment you turn 15 and learn about human nature.

>>715812352
Are you American

>>715817925

>>715817182

Cackles deserved to lose, seethe tranny.

>>715811339 (OP)
>Stopping current console emulators and rom sites
I don't care. They'd be stupid not to legally do something.
>Stopping old console emulators and roms for games they don't sell anymore
Now you're just being an asshole.

>>715818969
How's that slippery slope taste bitch

>>715811860
>this is piracy,
It is not piracy or theft, it is downloading.

Piracy and theft are the same thing, aka stealing a physical product. You can't really steal digital files unless you copy the file and delete the original from existence. Even movie downloads are not theft/piracy because 99% of the time you are downloading a worse version of the original file.

>>715818969
>for games they don't sell anymore
What about games they rent? like their SNES or NES games that are on NSO are those "okay" to pirate because you don't like the way they decided to distribute them?
When games get ported to modern consoles do piracy sites preemptively take them down?

>be kind in 2002
>buy used gameboy game for 2€ in thrift store
>have fun with it

>be kind 2025
>YOU NEED TO BUY THAT DIGITALLY FOR 60€
>game is shit anyways

we truly live in a children hating society

>>715811339 (OP)

How do they calculate how many people who pirate would have purchased legitimately had they not had the option to pirate?

>>715811339 (OP)
Why would the fbi care about roms wtf? I can't wait til i die.

Nintendo is my friend

>>715819449
Also dlc and a sub or else it feels like a demo version. That's why kids only play fortnite and roblox. Nice going greedy fucking retarded trannies.

>>715819067
Like no shit they don't want people to download their shit for free, because then they won't pay for it. On the other hand if they're not selling it, there's no harm because there's no potential loss.

>>715819292
To make a long point short, yes. I don't care to argue the moral standpoint, I'm just saying I don't feel like they're being dicks because they don't want you to pirate the new shit they're making, but they ARE dicks for pursuing old shit they don't sell. I'm not paying $500 fucking dollars to play Radiant Dawn.

>>715811339 (OP)
Why do pirates think they deserve to experience something for free? Just because you weren't going to buy it anyway doesn't mean you should get the same experience

>>715811339 (OP)
we really should come up with a better formula for calculating losses than
>download game 1 million times
>studio loses 70 million dollars and goes bankrupt

>>715813419
Holy shit you're so mad that it's tangible.
>Reddit spacing
Go back.

>>715819893
why does nintendo require buying a pathetic toy to play their artificially segmented games?

There's not going to be a switch 2 emulator anytime soon. It might be years before they make a bare bones one that runs like shit

>>715819830
Personally i don't think they're dicks for any of it, but i agree with not wanting to pay $500 for Radiant Dawn.
I know it sounds crazy, but i think pirates are right to try and get away with what they can get away with, and Nintendo is right to try and shut down what they can shut down, and anyone who brings morality into it or gets hurt feelings over either outcome is a huge faggot.

>>715820394
>it'll take years to develop an emulator with a fuckload of hardware overhead of a mainstream nintendo console whose sole appeal is exclusives
listen to yourself

>>715820706
>Try to modify the switch 2 in anyway
>Bricked
>Try to back up games
>Bricked
>Somehow make some progress
>Get jailed and sued into oblivion
How exactly do you think this is going to go?

>>715811339 (OP)
most of this could have been avoided if pirate fags and emulator fags just waited for a current gen to become obsolete and not monetizable. now nintendo will unleash its lawyers even towards NES/SNES sites.

>>715813419
actually gigabased post lmao
made that guy reply 3 times

>>715815780
Completely different things and you're a retard for thinking that comparison is even remotely applicable. But I expect nothing less for a bootlicker.

>>715812079
They would have won against Yuzu not because it was an emulator case, but because Yuzu devs were stupid enough to take donations to make builds optimized for TOTK a week before it dropped using the leaked copies online

>>715812839
if that were true, then there wouldn't be a translation layer at all for switch 1 games on the switch 2, retard

>>715811339 (OP)
Nope

>>715811339 (OP)
I read it wrong at first and thought the FBI wasted $170m to take down those sites.

>>715817925
kek never stops being funny. nintendo has always been a retard company.