efficient researched setups = soulless
spaghetti = soul

spaghetti makes going back to play the map impossible

>>715861643 (OP)
If you don't forget and get confused how your own factory works you are playing the game wrong.

>>715862848
Nonsense, you just need to pray to the machine god for revelations and you're of again.

>>715861643 (OP)
Spaghetti is love, spaghetti is life! I guess my playstyle is structured spaghetti as I build my spaghetti in a way that lets me adjust ratios in some capacity but I usually overbuild things and let products stack up to buffer high demand periods. Downloading blueprints designed by other people and building for perfect ratios sounds like more of a second job so that's a hard no for me. Playing it loosey goocey and letting the factory run in the background while doing other shit is peak comfy.

>>715862848
No it just means you have to spaghetti harder.

>>715861643 (OP)
>Decide that I'm sick of small scale tiny clusterfuck spaghetti
>Upgrade to large scale spaghetti with tons of room to link it all up with no dramas
Yeah now we're gaming

All the people playing this making gigantic resource busses that have periodic splinters per resource is very soulless

It's not engineered design or natural growth. It's something inefficient built so people don't have to think.

playing the game once = soul
playing the game a second time = soulless

post your spaghetti

>>715861643 (OP)
cum

>>715861643 (OP)
downloading blueprints = playing someone elses savegame

>>715861643 (OP)
Both are soulful if actually made by the player trying to do something interesting and discover everything by themselves. Unlike "people" who learn how to play "the right way" before even starting the game and just mindlessly doing a generic ugly bus setup. The Factorio equivalent of brainrot.

>>715864909
holy fucking soul

>>715864909

>>715862848
Just add to the spaghetti

>>715866056
as much as I like trains. I've never needed to really use them especially with the new space age techs meaning you can build even smaller.

>>715861643 (OP)
>>715862848
Exactly. Kinoooo

Do busses really solve Factorio?

>>715861643 (OP)
Bots and belts = soulless
needlessly many trains = soul

I've launched one rocket before Space Age, currently in a new Space Age save and up to blue science
I'm getting annoyed by the biters, should I make a new save and start again with no biters or just push through?

If you research anything beyond the tutorials and basic information on the wiki then you're subhuman.

>>715867846
I don't like turning biters off completely, it pretty much invalidates entire military tech. Though now at least we have asteroids so there's some use for turrets aside from the bugs. Maybe just turn off biter expansion or slow it down.

after getting the sub 100 on my first playthrough and going way below sub 40 on my second playthrough I realized that the factorio playerbase, despite the overwhelming autism, has no idea what they're doing.
a few points in defense of the playerbase: time spent messing around with quality doesn't make you beat the game any faster, at least not when it's your first time messing around with it. also, time spent attempting to create perfect blueprints doesn't make you beat the game any faster.
and now for the reality check: creating optimized blueprints is only attempted after first creating something that "just works". always. let's not pretend that the average player will spend hours, say, minimizing the tiles used in a perfect-efficiency nuclear blueprint instead of just making a "good" one and then moving on with the game, at least until progressing through to the end; this point is moot.
most damning of all is that the playerbase obviously struggles to learn. the designs that work for you at green science will generally keep working for you all the way through purple and yellow, and even on vulcanus and fulgora with minor tweaking. gleba and aquillo require new designs, but aquillo is a fitting endgame challenge before the solar system edge and gleba compensates by providing the greatest science output of any planet (by tilespace). and for chrissake, you can beat gleba with just buffer chests. gleba filters people who have learned nothing up to the point of landing on that planet.
why did I write any of this? I just find it strange that I'm better than autists at this game renowned for being autistic. for the record, I think space age ruled and made Factorio much more interesting.

>all lowercase
Shan't be reading

>>715867241
Only somewhat--using thousands of bots "solves" Factorio and is gay as hell. Main bus is a-ok in my eyes
>>715867846
Frankly, bugs will continue to be an annoyance until you have a self-repairing perimeter; I sort of feel that biters and spitters are best suited for any playthrough after your first. you'll surely get back to blue quick enough that you might as well restart if you're already suffering.

I'll justr leave this here

How the fuck do I de-spaghetti my factory? It's REALLY bad

>>715868740
not written for summerfriends anyway :) maybe in the future I'll even write posts like that in cursive and take a pic

this game needs zerg-like bugs. oil/fire is too op

Newfaggot twitter users are the only ones who lowercase though

>>715868828

>>715868828
Consider for a moment the sheer quantity of resources you have compared to starting fresh. With lots of bots you can practically reshape your factory however you think to do it, but without bots you may be required to first expand to new ore patches before reworking the things that can practically be reworked.

>>715864909

>>715868906
>phoneposting
>bird app curiously on the mind
>though

>>715868740
reddit prose and preferences: exhibit A

>>715861643 (OP)
I wish I was autistic enough for this game.

>>715869271
It's fake autism. The fun is in creating your own unique puzzle/problems and solving it. I did not go into the game thinking about efficiency or throughput.

>>715864909
Those are well-organized cordoned off blocks of repeated structures scrunched up tightly against one another, with rail flowing inbetween. But otherwise still well-organized and not noodle-chaos.

That is not spaghet. It is lasagna.

>>715868792
Cursed.
Amazing.
But also cursed.

>>715869065
mamma mia!

>>715869271
The autism descriptor is really attributed because of the hyperfixation potential and not any semblance of hyperfixation requirement to enjoy and accomplish everything in the game

>>715869271
An actual autist would actually fucking hate this game.
You'd have better chance attributing it to OCD

>>715864909
How much CPU do you guys need to run that stuff holy shit

>>715868592
Bro, you don't understand bro, Fulgora really expects me to place 300 (three hundred) capacitors, Gleba spoilage is against the spirit of the game, Aquilo requires hundreds of rocket launches (HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO DO THAT AT THAT POINT) and those big worms? WTF how am I supposed to know how to damage them?

>>715870154
it's a spectrum you silly billy
it helps no one to be reductive

>>715868592
Pathetic, I got sub 40 my first playthrough

>>715870809
post galaxy of fame link :)

>>715861643 (OP)
Playing Factorio feels like writing/running a script to install all software I need on my Linux machine but with better graphics and less usefulness.
I don't get why others enjoy rushing this game. Overpreparing for my trip to the new planets seems the right way to play this, just from the role-playing perspective. I'm not messing with capacitors on fulgora and take material for a 2x2 nuclear reactor and enough fuel for 500 hours of gameplay with me.

>>715870990
I don't know why power on Fulgora of all things would be what you choose to forgo but the U-235 rocket capacity is capped where it is precisely because of what you're attempting. Tirelessly furthering Nauvis output instead of learning new ways to do things (the entire point of other planets) is certainly an option, but... why?

>>715871260
I'm visiting an unknown planet not knowing what challenges lie before me so sorry that I want to increase my chances for survival by bringing plan B and C with me. You're not playing in hardcore (perma-death) mode I assume?

>>715870620
and being anywhere on that spectrum would hate factorio
One biter attack and jello would be thrown against the wall

>>715872120
>You're not playing in hardcore (perma-death) mode I assume?
the game is designed to even create extra autosaves on first voyages. you're being a complete goofball.

>>715872253
>One biter attack and jello would be thrown against the wall
You have autism and OCD mixed up entirely

>>715872327
I don't at all.
I am literally diagnosed with one type of OCD.
You're stereotyping OCD thinking the only type of OCD is "fixing picture frames and things being in a perfect neat line"

Autists more often than not take things very personally and hate it when things that are in order (especially things they have made) are broken.
They prefer being alone in a protective bubble, biters will break that bubble.
They panic and stress easily, which and attack will do to them.

>>715872619
I can tell you're being honest about yourself but again, it's a spectrum.

White women saying they like things to be neat is "OCD" has ruined all discussion
OCD is a serious, fucked up mental illness

>>715872716
>heh, heh.....

>>715872272
It's true that the software lacks these features but you can still treat a death as a perma-death.
But yes, I'm just a goofball as I aim to delight my audience with silly jests to distract them from the horrors of reality.

>>715872904
DOSH YOU FAG WHERE TOWER CLIMB 3

>>715867142
There's no need to use almost anything, but I like using everything because it's fun.

>>715872619
It's not that hard to protect your base with laser-turrets tho. I would assume an autist will be able to figure this out no problem.

>>715872925
I'll release it as soon as you stop pestering me about it.

>>715868592
I almost got below 40 on second go but was bottlenecked by only having 1 ship that reached aquilo...

>>715873071
Dosh you fag call Notch by his handle Notch

>>715868592
Based on 'cheevo %ages most people hardly delve into quality anyway
>>715873000
czech'd

>>715873142
He can suck my dick.

>>715872716
Gurl I just did the hoovering, i'm a little bit OCD like that!

>>715872716
>OCD is a serious, fucked up mental illness
it's serious but not that fucked up
you can work on improving if you put some effort into it (painful but doable)

>>715872716
OCD sounds like the least fun of mental illnesses. Manic depressives at least get to enjoy the manic episodes that can be quite fun but OCD seems to be entirely horrible.

>Factorio thread
>look inside
>actual mental illness therapy session

>>715874905
Were you expecting anything else?

>>715864909
just starting on vulcanus, made this monstrosity today
it's fine because it's my starter base

>>715862848
>he cannot destroy and rebuild the spaghetti
laughingtifa.girls

>>715867241
Not really. A small bus is good for early-mid game but later you need more throughput. Trains are good but a pain to set up.

>>715861643 (OP)
>replayin it spaghetti style
>having fun for awhile
>got to yellow science and bots
>gotta increase blue chip production
>finally start to realize ratios and plan out some sections for exact production
>forget about belt speed and get massive shortage of copper wires on green chip production
>making tons of copper wire but put them all in a straight line on one belt to the green chips so they get full
>no space to route sections of them out and back in to the green chip production

Ugh im just gonna have to set up new mines and smelt and then run it all back

>that feel when you get legendary big miners
>all resources are practicality near infinite
>taking dozens of real life years to deplete single ore deposit

>>715865993
The only blueprint I've ever downloaded is the belt balancer
https://factorioprints.com/view/-KjZ17-ZfirKJBYRQT9X

>>715879790
>Ugh im just gonna have to set up new mines and smelt and then run it all back
You have bots, hopefully a lot. It should be as easy as CTRL C CTRL V for whole sections of your base now.

>>715880740
I have them researched but ive only crafted the personal roboport for my armor, I havnt set up anywhere to actually craft bots. Nothing about my base lends itself to copy paste except blocks of solar or accumulators. I've woven it through a forest with minimal destruction and have no main belts