This game is mostly a singleplayer experience right? I don't really like tactical games usually but if its singleplayer focused i'd give it a go, plot sounds very cool

>>715901005 (OP)
>censored
how about no

>>715901063
i've never played it so I won't even notice a difference

>>715901005 (OP)
yeah it plays fine SP. I don't give two shits about the censorship debacle but the latest patch absolutely fucks up the SP AI teammates, so just pirate it. Also if youre not a fan of tactical games, I think you should just skip it, even in SP its still a tactical game.

>>715901005 (OP)
Yeah I am on the cult mission.
You can definitely finish it so
Tips
1. Use beanbag shotgun if you are gonna do non lethal
2. Learn to use commands on team and suspects who surrender, it comes in handy
3. Flashbangs are your friends, take of everything else off and carry 4 of those

>>715901564
door wedges are also handy

>>715901664
Only in certain maps otherwise it's a waste of time, you'll be better off opening and cleaning rooms.
And for larger areas ask your team to open it with a smoke bomb or stinger

>>715901005 (OP)
The AI teammates are pretty dopey. Of course, playing actual multiplayer is basically cheating, with flash-loaded M32s letting you blind entire maps and hit S-ranks with ease.

>>715901005 (OP)
It gets very repetitive in SP, the maps are all just a smidge too big and have too many enemies, so you fall into
>bang
>clear
>secure
>bang
>clear
>secure
The real meat is trying to tard wrangle your buddies and trying really silly tactics you saw on old Youtube videos. Otherwise to me the missions feel like they go on for about 15 minutes longer than they should.
>plot sounds very cool
If you like ARG shit I guess, personally it made me roll my eyes so hard they nearly achieved escape velocity so I ignored it, didn't impact my ability to finish or enjoy my time with the game itself. It's a bunch of airsoft kiddies idea of "modern grimdark" and it's just comical.

just play swat 4

>>715901005 (OP)
>the censorship debacle

the what now? I haven't followed. Qrd pls

>>715901063
I mean, I get console companies wanting them to replace the overdosing child and the cargo container of naked sex-trafficking victims, but removing post-mortem mutilation? Coming from companies known for God of War and Gears, turning pedophiles into particulate seems pretty tame.

>>715902071
Asking your teammates to clean the rooms is basically cheating.
But yeah i agree, too many enemies.
30 fucking armed guards don't make any sense unless it is some massive cartel hideout

SWAT got an indie follow-up, but when am I getting a new Conflict

>>715902293
The game was announced to be getting console ports, but apparently Sony and Microsoft wanted them to tone down some of the more extreme content in the game, and the devs weren't interested in maintaining separate builds for PC and console players. As such, the devs changed a few things.
>Nudity has been removed, with formerly pantsless suspects and civilians now having underwear
>A child experiencing a seizure from a drug overdose was replaced with a sleeping child
>Some of the evidence of child pornography has been altered to be more ambiguous
>Characters can no longer be dismembered or mutilated after death

>>715901564
>if you are gonna do non lethal
hmm
any lore reason to do this?

>>715903021
Well on commando mod you gotta keep your teammates stress level in check

Also you need it to score heigh

Also leathal is too easy if you know the layout and how to click on heads.

>>715903021
The mission of LSPD SWAT is to bring order to chaos, which they remind you doesn't necessarily mean shooting every perpetrator you lay eyes on. Further, the more suspects that are taken alive, the better the case the DA's office can build with testimony and cross-examination, and the better the department looks in the media. Not to mention, it helps your fellow officers sleep better at night. Fortunately for you, you're playing a high-functioning sociopath.

Look at this exquisite tactical ludo, criminally underrated. Gamespy gave this 3/10 back in the day. I love it so much, I will never understand why it's not respected.

>best 3D level design in the genre
>actually useful teammate AI you don't have to constantly babysit
>thoughtfully designed so you're constantly pulling off satisfying coordinated actions
>gameplay/level variety, both close quarter and long range, etc
>no non-lethal faggotry

Can someone explain to me why they had to censor it? And if the reason is because it has to cross play with consoles, 1, why and 2, what does that have to do with censorship?

>>715903640
>killing suspects
Take your cawadooty garbage out of here. The whole fucking point of SWAT series is that you cannot just shoot everything like a retarded cod baby.

>>715903640
>Gamespy gave this 3/10 back in the day
Are you fucking kidding me, really? Conflict games were all solid 7/10's, excellent weekend adventures. What joyless cunt thought it was a 3?

>>715903510
SWAT are geared to fight in the US though. Armed to fight armed criminals, shoot to kill.

>>715903840
Consolenigger companies treat """adults""" like underage faggot babies and don't allow gore in a fucking 18+ rated game. Also devs were lazy faggots and just made censorship global. Nobody would've complained if censorship was a console-only cosmetic filter.

Serious question:
Why not play SWAT 4 instead? Like what are the advantages/disadvantages of each?

>>715904008
Are you 12?

>>715904285
>waaaah I want to shoot everyone, I'm so le edgy!11
Are you 12?

>>715904373
>sperging out about killing enemies in Conflict: Desert Storm
Who are you quoting?

>>715904196
I mean, realistically, they are allowed to shoot and kill as soon as they see shots being fired.
20 armed guards is still absurd.
So you have to suspend your disbelief and imagine a hyper reality where everyone in LA has assault rifles.
They don’t care about police backups.
And you are playing as super cops who’ll take bullets just to arrest the suspect.

>>715903640
game?

>>715904008
>perp has weapon drawn
>intent to harm
>already killed multiple hostages
>aiming at you
>he even brought a tank
>"noooo you cant un-alive the innocent little baby you have to tase him (but at low voltage only) or I'll report you to TOC!!"

>>715904118
http://ps2.gamespy.com/playstation-2/conflict-4/663420p1.html

>>715904563
>posting irrelevant cawadooty garbage in a SWAT thread
It's not a police simulator. What did you expect? "Wow so cool, you shoot all enemies on sight just like in cod?! Never seen that before!"?

>>715901063
fpbp

>>715904196
US SWAT is geared for extreme force due to the Second Amendment encouraging an armed populace and the US military being authorized by the LESO/1033 Program to distribute surplus equipment to federal, state, and local law enforcement bodies. That said, SWAT is still subject to use-of-force guidelines, and is expected to try and take suspects into custody unless there is an immediate threat to the officers or civilians. Hence why you're expected to identify yourself and issue verbal commands before engaging.

>>715904872
You know when you make a mistake you can just stop typing right? Just leave the thread? No need to continue to shit your nappy just to bump your boring ass thread.

>>715904814
>aiming at you
Nigger, he fucking throws a frag grenade in a room without even knowing who is there. The whole fucking point of SWAT genre is that you don't know who is the suspect and who is the hostage and they even sometimes put masks and bulletproof vests on some of the hostages so that you may shoot them in confusion. Trying to bring order in an absolute clusterfuck situation blows the shitty casual "le shoot on sight" baby garbage out of the water.

>>715905072
>posts irrelevant shit in swat thread
>get shitted on
>ummmm acshually you made a mistake!
Lol.

copaganda slop
defund the police #justice4saintfloyd

>>715904814
>webm
A bit too much there no? Whatever happened to the law and excessive use of force? I thought these games strove for realism?

>>715904563
>Who are you quoting?
Automatically on the other anon's side. Lrn2 extrapolate information you sub 80 IQ brownoid

>>715905249
You're playing SWAT wrong then. You're not supposed to de-escalate and arrest them. You're supposed to bait them into a gunfight but you shoot first so it's all justified on paper.

>>715905310
Conflict is a series about military special forces, like Delta Force and SAS. Not nearly as many restrictions on the use of lethal force.

>>715905740
>t. casual pleb who never played swat
You cannot get the highest score unless you arrest everyone.

>>715905740
Not if you're trying for S-rank. You can do the absolute bare minimum of encouraging surrender, then shooting the suspect the moment they try something, but that won't boost your performance, and on the higher difficulties, the constant deaths will start to weigh on your team's conscience.

>>715903021
>look at this watch

>>715901005 (OP)
try some modded swat 4 to see if you actually like the genre before buying it

>>715906012
what the fuck did you say about me you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the SWAT and I have 300 confirmed beanbag kills and I'm the top pepper sprayer in my entire unit

come fight me 1v1 without TOC see what happens

>*ends your S Rank run*

>>715904118
The exact same people telling publishers two decades later that they need to cater to the modern audience

What the fuck is the motivation to play this game well at all, you hesitate to shoot someone for a split second and you die and fail, better yet in multi-player you get to sit out and watch for the next 30 minutes

But if you dont hesitate and you accidentally kill civilians all that it does is give you a lower score which is completely meaningless and then the game is super fucking easy

What a stupid as hell design

>>715907149
You know who talks like this? People who suck at games

>>715907149
Git gud.

>>715902739
Every time
Fuck videogame developers. Always getting funding from pc then fucking them over to appeal to retarded console shitskins

>>715907149
I think by the time you finish twisted nerve you get hang of things and how to do things properly
You still get shot from across the room time to time but it keeps you on your toes

/v/ swat4 server game when

>>715907259
>>715907265
>>715907390
It was boring and put me to sleep and I refunded it a long time ago
Interesting to see nothing fundamentally changed despite it still being so popular. Gamers truly are starving

>>715907325
Well would you rather secure funding for another cool you want to work on or just continue serve the pc players and hope they'll buy all the dlcs and eventually you'll secure enough money to start a next project
The people who likes to create things would rather make more things than being a stick in a mud for 1 or 2 things
That's why a lot of Devs put up with the woke shit

>>715907615
Every game isn't for everyone

>>715907615

>>715907682
They usually port the game to console abandon it and then are never heard of again
Often they even port the game to console and forget about the pc version just to work on the shitty console version

worst map, fucking ai shooting through pin holes

>>715907998
Even then nobody would leave money on the table

>>715901005 (OP)
Is it just me, or did the devs nerf the fuck out of gas grenades? It seems like it barely even phases bad guys.

>>715902193
just play swat 3

>>715908362
i think they are bugged and was added to the list of fixes

>>715908127
>Game designed around thinning out the enemies by cleaning the rooms first
>Let's have a map with nothing but open areas

It's seems impossible to without friends

>>715907682
VOID is done on PC. People only put up with how much Ready or Not is a buggy piece of shit because it's the only game, of this generation, of it's genre. They burned all their goodwill censoring the game and backporting their console-optimized version to PC.

>>715904274
>>715904274
>>715904274
Anyone?

>>715910113
Play it, nigga or watch youtube video
You can get swat 4 for dirt cheap and pirate ron
>Boomers too stubborn to play new games
>Zoomers can't deal with jank and 60 polygon guns

>>715909860
>of this generation
zero hour (third world game)
and ground branch (perma early access scam)

swat 4 is still the best, is free & has hundreds of fan levels (5 total daily players)

>>715901005 (OP)
you can play it single, hell you can solo if you feel like it. your partner ai is adequate enough. it used to be way worse.
its significantly more fun with friends.

>>715901063
FPBP

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