Every game would benefit from having a coop mode to play with your friends or significant other. I love playing everything with my boyfriend and i'm happy so many games without coop get coops mods like Elden Ring, Subnautica, etc.

But seems majority of gamers have uncontrollable seething at the concept of playing with someone else.

Do they have nobody to play with?

>>715910886 (OP)
>>715910886 (OP)
It's not that they have nobody to play with, it's that they have nobody to bully.

All of the multiplayer games that they like place them in a hierarchy where they can insult or hurt others for doing worse than them. Co-Op games prevent that and it makes them fucking seethe

nobody cares what two fags play but have a pity (you)

Those are the same dorks who complain about “friendslop”. Just ignore em like everyone else. They don’t have friends for a reason lol

>>715910886 (OP)
If I was playing video games with my real life friends that is one thing. I despise playing with strangers, and instantly lose interest if a game like Nightreign announces it will be coop only.

Yes, some of us are completely alone + suffer from social anxiety which makes us uneasy and very tense in social situations, especially around strangers.

>>715910886 (OP)
I don't hate co-op at all. I just don't like if a game that seems more balanced for single player goes out of its way to fuck this balance up by forcing co-op where it doesn't need to exist. Resident Evil 5 is by far the biggest egregious insult in this regard that I can think of. Capcom absolutely intended at first for RE5 to be a single player experience only but backlash they faced from triggered snowflakes as well as them wanting to chase cowapoopoo money made them drastically alter the original vision that RE5 was supposed to be. So Sheva gets shoehorned very forcibly in so that the game isn't "racist" anymore and co-op back in that time period was being pushed hard in so many shooter games. EA even had a game all about this concept that has been largely forgotten about today.

>tldr
I do not mind co-op at all I think its great actually. Just do it right and not forced which then makes a game turn much shittier because co-op or even multiplayer must be forced into the game.

>>715910886 (OP)
He's right. co-op is a cope for shitters wanting an easier experience.

>>715910886 (OP)
i do not give people chances anymore it seems every time they are not actually interested in playing games but instead try to bring others down with drama and other faggotry

>>715911567

How come reset era losers seem more miserable and lonely than 4channers?

>>715910886 (OP)
I thought the logo was that autism multicolor puzzle piece

>>715911567
having a 40 minute runback for a boss really is the apex of game padding

>>715911937
>incel
vs
>incel + leftie

I don't like it cause it's hard to find time to play together once you're an adult and everyone is busy

>>715912224
nope. it’s just no one wants to hang out with you specifically

>>715910886 (OP)
I got older, and you will too. I played coop for 15 years with irl friends but now we all have hectic schedules and shit to do around the clock. I refuse to play with internet randoms.

>COOP game launches
>becomes somewhat known, pvp roaches crawl out
>"erm pvp when"
>throw tantrums over the years
>devs finally give them their retarded pvp mode
>nobody gave a shit beside pvp fags, who disperse not even a month in
>mission accomplished

I'm 37, at about age 22-24 you start to realize you're hanging around a bunch of low status losers when you're online gaming, and its very off-putting.

Not that I am claiming I was any better at the time, but it made me depressed to be hanging around a bunch of losers like myself who hadn't moved on to actually getting somewhere in life

I went through a period of ghosting all the people I played online games with in my early 20's and then eventually quitting gaming all-together for the rest of my 20s and didn't get back into gaming until I had built myself up in real life and secured my financial security & socioeconomic status to the point where I can finally now play video games without feeling like I'm fucking up in life

Most of the guys I used to play with never quit gaming and they never progressed in life and now they're literally a few years away from being homeless if their parents die

I member Dragon's Dogfags were so adamantly against co-op in DD2 because it would make the single player campaign unfinished and rushed.
Then DD2 came out with no co-op and the single player was unfinished and rushed.

>>715913803
It's even better when the game gets shittier because they need to balance pvp.

>>715913873
>reddit spacing

>>715910886 (OP)
Who the fuck hates coop?
Even the shittiest of games can be funny as fuck if it has a coop mode.

>>715913873
All you did was make more money but still play your children’s games. You haven’t changed a single bit. You’re still a pathetic manchild playing his video games

>>715914279
I wish. I can't get into games not even 10% of what I once was able to.

>>715910886 (OP)
It's because they're autistic friendless retards. They're bitter and miserable and since nobody wants to be around them they hate the idea of friends having fun together.

>>715910886 (OP)
>do they have no friends?
Yes

>>715913873
>>715914467
Kek, sounds like you just suck at life.
I'm basically the king of normalfags, with a good job, house, 2 cars, and a wife and 2 kids. Played vidya all my life, and I'm still enjoying it.

Co-op fags are so annoying because they're constantly asking devs for co-op in games that were never designed for it or wouldn't even really be good for it. There are already tons of games with co-op, it doesn't need to be shoehorned into every single game ever made.

The online experience today is 50% cheater, 49% retards and 1% actually fun people to play with.
No thanks, just let me play offline.

>>715910886 (OP)
Dark Souls. Not even joking, DS and summons made everyone associate co-op with easy mode.

>>715910886 (OP)
Last fun co-op game I played was pic rel.

>>715910886 (OP)
Most modern co-op games are low effort buggy trash made to trick people into playing for le epic meme moments

>>715911248
Co-op games absolutely do not prevent bullying. When I go down I start screaming that my teammates fucking suck for letting me go down.

>>715916362
>When I go down
>I start screaming that my teammates fucking suck

>>715910886 (OP)
>Why do gamers hate COOP games?
I still play Warframe. But it is not exactly a co-op game.

any game built around "having fun with friends" inevitably has no fun built in.

>>715916362
Villain mentality.

>>715914467
>I wish. I can't get into games not even 10% of what I once was able to.
lying retard says this as he posts on /v/

>>715910886 (OP)
Yeah but that isn't why. I want single player games for the same reason I don't go to the movie theaters anymore. I don't want some fuck ass teenager crinkling their bullshit while Stacey screams "don't go in there" and Jamal eats skittles as loud a humanly possible

>>715918412
>playing coop before finishing game single player
>playing coop with random shitters
What are you even doing, anon?

>>715911320
coop games are good, but they have to be good games by themselves first
friendslop is legitimized by those games being terrible to play alone (and online) and only being fun with friends, which comes ridiculously easy and therefore a cheap win

lol
do co-opers even exist when they're alone?

>>715910886 (OP)
I lot of coop games the last couple of years felt more like streamer focused games.

>>715910886 (OP)
truthfully, finding the right friend to play with is the hardest, you either get
>that one who doesn't like what you play
>the one who never is online when you are
>the one who doesn't feel like playing today or is busy
>that one who is dedicated to ONE game type and nothing else no matter how hard you ask
>playing with randoms is a mixed bag

>>715920178
can also add
>that one friend whos already put hundreds of hours into the game and is a chore to play with
this one is more personal, I fucking hated playing sven co-op with you dude, let me enjoy the experience for fucks sakes and lets not rush through it because you already played it years ago

>>715915054
this
coop fags are insufferable retards

>>715910886 (OP)
Does he think if they had friends they would spend all day playing games of video?
Holy shit, you can't be this retarded without being labelled unfit for society, but I guess this is the average terminally online leftist predditor...

>>715910886 (OP)
>Why do gamers hate COOP games?
I don't, I'd recommend pic related as a mainstream co-op game that's well made. Dead by daylight is fun, if you can ignore the MTX. Magicka is great if you can convince anyone else to learn/play it. I get anti-co-op arguments because in a single player experience designing for co-op takes time away from designing for SP and can mess up game balance when content is designed for 2 players. Tacked on co-op is horrible and there was an era where plenty of games added half-baked co-op modes just so that they could put a tag on the back of the box where the game would have been better without it. It got to a point where you had to research what the word "CO-OP" entailed so that when buying a co-op game you didn't end up with a version of co-op that wasn't fun, like Super Mario Galaxy. If a game wasn't designed to be co-op from it's inception, it always come across as poorly implemented and feels incomplete, detracts from the experience. In games that aren't co-op, hand the controller off every death and now it is a co-op game.
I mostly see this accusation now in regards to defending low-quality streamerbait flavor of the month games for free. As you can see here:
>>715911320
>friendslop
If I criticize any of these games (Valheim, Peak, Lethal Company, Fall guys, etc.) I immediately get accused of having no friends to play them with, insulting my character to defend a consumer product you're going to forget about as soon as the next one comes out. By all means, play these forgettable trash games but if you had better friends they wouldn't want to play these games to begin with and would probably give you a talk about why you shouldn't be supporting this business model of pumping out low quality shovelware with a few funny references. They'd probably get you into way better co-op games, but obviously these people see you as the consumer piggy you are and avoid you.

>>715910886 (OP)
there's the acceptable co-op, which is the kind that requires only one copy (couch co-op, josef fares, etc) and then there's this monstrosity

>>715910886 (OP)
Vermintide is fun

>>715910886 (OP)
I just realized that AI will get so good it can play co-op games with me and even talk like a friend that sit beside me

>>715910886 (OP)
The last time I played a coop game was Black Ops Zombies with my cousin. It's cool while couch gaming but don't really get it on multiplayer.

>>715910886 (OP)
>3 year old post making fun of a 13 year old steam forum post

uhhh alright

It's oversaturated and companies trip over themselves to keep shitting it out. It becomes a cheap excuse to make shitty games and try to become the next Among Us. So many garbage games that are "fun with friends" and that's it. As with anything there's plenty of fun games that use co-op but like anything it's been overused. Simple as that.

>>715922247
first time i have ever seen this game mentioned on this site

>>715923289
you must not have been alive when it came out, then

>>715922574
You can emulate that, I played with bros before on my pc and 4 xbox controllers

>>715923289
It's pretty good man, it's run of the mill military 3rd person shooter slop, but it's very polished. Basically one of the guys plays tank and the other plays DPS. Lots of Epic Setpiece Moments(tm) which was typical of the era. You also get to play dress up dolls with unlockable masks.

>>715923409
that is not the reply i was expecting, i liked the game a lot and thought it was cool it got posted, be a jaded mad faggot i guess

>>715911248
How are this big of a faggot tho

>>715922247
Valheim has a game and Fall Guys is PvP
Peak, Lethal Company, REPO and all that shit is literally streamer games to make people that are watching the stream think that them playing with random people they never play with is not a PR stunt and they are actually having a lot of fun and shitting themselves with laughter

I don't hate them. I just hate COOP that feels more like an afterthought than anything such as Peak. Its the same issue that happens in board games where it might say 2-6 players but what actually is designed for is 4 players or less. Yes you CAN do it with more players but it really isnt a good idea or its not balanced for it.

>>715920396
This is why I couldn't enjoy my friend's Minecraft server.
>want to just dig and chill. There's like five dudes and we're doing whatever
>log off for the first night
>log on for night 2
>the two guys still in school already have diamond armor for everyone, cobblestone generators, and are currently min-maxing the local village for optimal enchants
They were just going to speedrun the Ender Dragon over and over. I was left in the dust after two days and basically didn't get to do anything before they'd already been to the End and back.

>>715923812
Artificial fun.

I don't have any friends and wish every game had a token co-op mode. Even if it was totally broken or the story didn't change at all to accommodate a clone of the main character, it should still have it.

Like Resident Evil 6, Ada had a solo story, but they added a co-op partner to her in the form of a HUNK clone, just a nameless Umbrella soldier in a gas mask literally called "Agent", and Player 1 as Ada had to be the one to initiate scene transitions because she was the only one with a grappling hook. I don't think he even appeared in cut scenes.

>>715910886 (OP)
The dirty secret is that video games largely aren't a very social hobby. I grew up with arcades and it was far from social. You couldn't really hang out with your friends there, because kids have no money and no two friends would agree to dumping more than a dollar on the same game. This just got worse with the rise of online gaming. I've been in clans since the late 90s. I've been in dozens of clans; I've managed my own, and I've topped leaderboards that were published in magazines. I'd say maybe 2% of clan members actually take it seriously and stay active, tops; but most quit or leave after a few weeks. That's how it used to be anyway, now maybe 2% of your Steam friends even recognize your avatar.

Don't get me wrong. Video games CAN be a highly social experience, but you have to consistently rotate through the most popular games.

>>715910886 (OP)
i dont have friends

>>715910886 (OP)
one faggot who hates co-op does not represent all gamers. Stop making stupid assumptions.

650$ game… I can only play when my stinky friend is over

>>715910886 (OP)
wow....... you don't have friends who have time to play video games with you whenever you want? ....... well that tracks......

>>715911320
>Those are the same dorks who complain about “friendslop”.

What are you talking about?

>>715913873
Completely fabricated. If any of this was true, you wouldn't be here.

My policy is that if the game isn’t fun with randoms, I don’t care about it. I liked Nightreign because playing with randoms was fairly enjoyable and thus playing with friends was even better.

I don't like playing multi-player games, even multi-player coop because it makes the game unpredictable.
I've come to realize I play games like a puzzle to be solved, not necessarily optimized. My random friend is a constantly shape shifting puzzle piece that I can use to solve the puzzle, but unreliably.
Sometimes the rogue puzzle piece has to log off or wants to call me a nigger.
It's all very unpredictable.

>>715925728
Did you try not being a nigger?

>>715925251
twitter and redditors love doing that tho, it gives them massive updoots

>>715912095
more like
>incel and acknowledges it
>incel and desperately trying to pretend they aren't an outkast
if you can't or won't change something, the self-aware will always be less miserable
>implying 4chan is self-aware
more than reset era at least

>>715910886 (OP)
Yes, I have nobody to play with.
I have a few internet friends I can play games with sometimes, but never consistently enough to enjoy a co-op game.

>>715913878
That game really made me eat my own words, I'm still sad to this day.

>>715910886 (OP)
coop games are usually cheapo shit and you have to make your own fun, which usually is easy with friends, doesn't make the game good but normalfags are easily tricked.

>>715911320
Any game that is unplayable as a solo should be laughed at. If you don't have friends that like it or they aren't around you can't enjoy it. How you people don't get it.

>>715923812
>peak, lethal company, REPO
all fun games BTW
this is why people accuse you of having no friends

>>715911248
>ults you

>>715924319
>cobblestone generator and min-maxing the villgae for enchants
this is why minecraft is such a gay fucking game, hopefully vintage can avoid that fate

>>715910886 (OP)
Completely depends on the game and how good the multiplayer servers are.

>>715926609
No

I played e.y.e co op with some russians and it was weirdly enjoyable

>>715913878
I never said co-op would affect the campaign though.

>>715910886 (OP)
Why would I party against AI instead of just party versus party?
Are people really too stupid to grasp this concept?

>Games aren't really made for co-op any more.
>It's like 2-4 people playing their own game, occasionally hitting the same targets.

>>715934152
co-op games are about fucking over your friends.
If you can't grief it's a shit game.

>>715910886 (OP)
Co-op is alright BUT the addition of PvP usually become the cancer, they usually bitch alot

>>715911686
>literally best coop campaign game to this moment
>coop wasn't initially intended
Miss this era of resi games

I have a young son and I'm always trying to find appropriate games with co op shit, but it's pretty hard. Thank fuck Josef Fares is making games because he's basically it.

>>715913878
>Then DD2 came out with no co-op and the single player was unfinished and rushed.
And how much worse would the overall game's quality have been if they had diverted resources into adding co-op?

>>715910886 (OP)
>Try to play co-op with a friend
>Get on discord
>They have something playing in the background playing that I have to constantly hear over the mic
>Which means they're only half paying attention to the game
>They miss literally anything important, follow you around like a mindless duckling, or completely wander off leaving you to die.
>Playing with them winds up enraging you and making you hate the game because they suck so bad.

Jesus why are others so shit at gaming? Like just pay attention and don't be a burden.

>>715914987
what the fuck does a jak have to do with what you replied to? Why avatarfag? are you that desperate for attention? For someone so happy and having a life you sure seem desperate for someone to read your post, sperg.

>>715910886 (OP)
I like coop games.
I don't like probably 80-90% of the coop games that get made in the west though. For some reason the genre attracts autists who're really obsessed with some gimmic or meme or something and make that the basis of the game.