It's mid.

True, Doom 2 is the peak of the series.

>heh, you know OLD GAME you used to like back in the 90s
>well... I don't like OLD GAME. What do you think about that huh?

it's the oldest game I still actively play. every other week I'll download some wads and play through them. it's amazing how well it has aged because of it's simplicity

>>715925239
Stfu you play a modded sourceport and dont play it like it was in 1993, beck yourself poser

>>715925189
>NOOOO YOU HAVE TO LIKE OLD GAME OR ELSE UUUUUUUUUH ZOOMER ZOOMER ZOOMER

>>715925239
Same goes for Duke3D. If I'm downloading shit or using SD, I can still play it absolutely fine since it takes no compute. The fact that it's more fun than 99% of modern games also adds to its charm.

>>715925550
Unironically true

>>715924495 (OP)
By the standards of what came after it, yeah. There are a lot of better games out there. Nobody drives a Model T because they were “innovative”.

>>715924805
I prefer 1. The level design in 2 is so tedious I rarely finish it

>>715925654
>shitty old game gets a pass because it's le old
thanks for confirming all the praise comes from wearing nostalgia goggles

>>715925550
Ironically untrue

>>715924495 (OP)
Original is good, 2 is boring, playermade wads are the best part

Plutonia is the best OG Doom.
If you count 64, 64 is second.

>>715925793
Just admit you're a dipshit and we can all move on.

yes. YES

>>715925189
>OLD GAME you used to like back in the 90s
what the fuck are you talking about, no one here was alive in the fucking 90s

>>715926012
Good point

>>715924495 (OP)
Yes.
But it paved the ground so other games did better than Doom.
And boy, they did.

>>715925949
Just admit you're a dishonest nigger and move on

>>715925550
This but unironically.

>>715925981
Hey look it's my childhood

>>715925868
tnt evolution is just annoying to play. all the maps are super narrow and full of hitscanners

>>715925239
unless you're rediscovering old games everyone has already played like a zoomer, everyone should have finished the game by now

>>715928339
do you think doom is still popular because people keep replaying the base campaigns over and over? are you retarded?

>>715927905
Just now I beat TNT map 9 Stronghold, blind without saving. It was fun. Hitscanners up the ass.

>>715928964
i like larger maps like after doom CAST. complete chaos and city map full of bosses

>>715925654
>>715926661
Boomers think this is good

Doom 2, in particular, has something that all game designers should study, which is the ability to create infinite variety with just a few pieces. This would solve all the problems of these fucking shitty modern open worlds. Look at how Zelda BOTW/TOTK has zero variety in battles, even though the number of unique enemies is greater than in Doom 2...
The advantage of Doom 2 is that the pieces work together. The position in which the pieces are distributed, the different combinations between them, the different layout, the quantity and distribution of resources, all of this is capable of generating a virtually infinite combination.

Note: Doom 1 does not have the same capability because it only has two types of enemies projectiles: hitscan and player-targeted projectiles.
Doom 2 perfectly solves this problem by adding a variety of projectiles for almost every new enemy:
Revenant: projectile that chases the player
Mancubus: projectiles that spread
Arch Ville: magic attack
Pain Elemental: projectiles are actually fucking enemies

>>715924495 (OP)
interesting how something being average is supposed to be worse than it being bad nowadays
pretty retarded

>>715929238
We were talking about Doom

It's peak

>>715926434
No you're just a dipshit with an irrelevant opinion. The gamer masses have already deemed DOOM a milestone in the history of gaming so its legacy is secured.

>>715929331
OLD GOOD SO THAT GAME GOOD

>>715929675
gamer masses dont give a fuck about an outdated old game and will never play it, shit go no players on steam charts LOL

>>715925550
>NOOOO YOU HAVE TO LIKE OLD GAME OR ELSE UUUUUUUUUH ZOOMER ZOOMER ZOOMER

>>715929851
lol steam charts... everyone plays old dooms on gzdoom port which has nothing to with steam

>>715929918
>gzdoom port
So not the actual game cause its outdated horseshit and you have to change it

>>715929238
that does look pretty good

>>715930023
zoomer

>>715930197
gzdoom is literal zoomer core, poser fan

>>715930274
Zoomers weren't even born when gzdoom came out.

>>715931092
>zoomers 1998+
>gzdoom 2005