An essential component to creating an all-time great turn-based RPG is a party of strong characters, and Expedition 33 doesn't have that. Maelle and Verso are the only good ones

There are already 3 threads about it. I know this game literally obsesses you schizos but come on, use the catalog.

>>715966525
What game would you like to talk about?

>>715966687
Expedition 33 in their current threads.

>>715966414 (OP)
It's still a great game but yeah the cast sucks

>>715966414 (OP)
Gustave was great and his death makes him memorable. I still think Lune will be remembered for her feet, Sciel is the only subpar character and her gameplay doesn't help.
But I agree it's never gonna be part of the all-time great JRPGs because it's a JRPG made for people who hate JRPGs. It's still a good game, but I don't think it has the staying power to be remembered a few years from now.

>>715970535
Which is strange, because the devs supposedly love JRPGs.

>>715970535
>Gustave was great
He was boring
>Lune
Hot, but also boring

>>715966414 (OP)
They are as good as the plot allows them to be unfortunately, the only real odd one out is Sciel who is meant to appeal to women.
This is just one of the many problems with act 3 imo. All the side character development happens right before you find out it doesn't matter, and these characters don't get any agency in the ending.

>>715966414 (OP)
>turn based rpg garbage
i sleep

>>715966414 (OP)
That's wrong, I like Monoco and think he's funny. I did not willingly use Sciel or Lune even once after I got him, however.

>>715966414 (OP)
Its the greatest story ever told, simple as

>>715966414 (OP)
If you didnt like Monoco, U R Mr Gay
Doing everyones build to gain as much extra Gradient charge as possible, he could drop the big bell almost every turn

>an all-time great turn-based RPG is a party of strong characters
>Cuntslav tries to kill himherself 30 minutes into the story
that's when I knew this gaym was going to be shit. uninstalled it about an hour later. I can't believe the majority of this board got gaslit into unironically believing it's a GOAT. LMFAO

>>715971869
> footfag Khimari
nah but his theme song is pretty good

>>715971901
You made a mistake, the praise is overblown and primarily comes from people who don't read much and don't play JRPGs but the game is still great. Even if you don't care about the story there are some fun surprises gameplay wise a bunch of challenging fights that are satisfying to do.

>>715970535
I liked Gustave but I honestly dont feel like I lived with him long enough to really feel the gut punch of his death. Like we saw a little bit of history in the prologue showing he is a human with emotions, discovered a bit of the world with lune and Maelle, but nothing ever kicked off to make me incorporate any sort of emotional attachment to him. Compared to Aerith where we learned to like her as a human and then learned her significance in the story as well as her efffect on Cloud gives her a more lasting impression that is discussed even today.

>>715971553
Monocco's fine but he's just a pet/friend for Verso

>>715966414 (OP)
Nah, Lune and Sciel are both quite fuckable.

>>715966414 (OP)
This is the best game ever made and the greatest story ever told. I'm currently helping a giant chicken get back his magic pebble that enables him to swim and I just stopped in my tracks and started crying there and then, so much so that my wifes boyfriend had to come and console me. Never have I played a game so relatable, so emotionally draining and one that will forever define me. 11/10.

>>715972880
True, but they're planks of wood

I cared more about the perspectives of Verso or Maelle than any other character in a JRPG. This website vastly overrates Japanese writing.

>>715975280
>Japanese writing
This is literally Japan's weakest talent. Their game are great except for their retarded over-exposed writing.

>>715975413
Considering the genre of JRPG has the most mind numbing gameplay possible, the writing is the only thing worthwhile. People will shit talk E33 for being Parry-slop, but I was more engaged in E33's combat than in any other JRPG I've played.

>>715975280
I wish I could day I cared for anyone other than Verso but lets be honest here the writing in E33 isn't noteworthy and the cheap drug PSA that is the ending wasn't as deep or thought provoking as people claim. I cared more about the cast of Tales of Graces F in skits than anything in E33's narrative.

>>715976185
>the cheap drug PSA
Game has no indication of this whatsoever. It's purely about grief. It can be interpreted as anti-drug because the two concepts are very similar, but it's 100% about grief.

>>715976302
>it's 100% about grief.
I agree its certainly not drug related but it gave me that 90s drug PSA vibe the whole time. Its the whole see I can quit (leave the canvas) at any time thing.

>>715966414 (OP)
Gustave is great and I thought that both Sciel and Lune had solid chemistry with the male leads. I don't think that characters need to be great individually, rather they need to have a good party dynamic. The interactions between Gustave and Sciel did a lot to improve her standing in my eyes.
Monaco is the weakest party member because he is played as a joke more often than anything else. Maelle is second weakest because she feels more like a plot device than a real character.

>>715976689
>Its the whole see I can quit (leave the canvas) at any time thing.
If it didn't have this it wouldn't have realistic characters. This thing that is interpreted as a cliche is because this is how actual humans behave. The game does the right thing to let you choose to indulge in that human behavior or have another character force you out of it.

>>715976932
>The interactions between Gustave and Sciel did a lot to improve her standing in my eyes
What interactions?

>>715966414 (OP)
I'm sorry your lack of media literacy failed to realize what the other characters are meant to represent.

>>715966414 (OP)
what, you don't think
>Asian girl that doesn't wanna do research like her parents tell her to
and
>whore who cries about missing her husband and dead baby while fucking anything that moves
are compelling all-timer masterpieces of writing? expedition 33 is literally more important than anything Tolstoy or Melville ever wrote.

>>715970535
>Gustave was great and his death makes him memorable
If you think they did a good job with that death you have negative taste. It's one of the biggest fumbles of a lead characters death in any story. The only people that fawn over it are the types of bots that watch reaction channels in order to pretend to have real emotions, and then when they come across something that actually makes them feel genuine emotion once in a blue moon, they get insanely upset and disturbed at it.

>>715970535
>it's a JRPG made for people who hate JRPGs. It's still a good game, but I don't think it has the staying power to be remembered a few years from now
I agree with this part. In a few years, the only people who will talk about this game will sound like people discussing a souls game because the parry shit will be the only thing anyone remembers, they won't be discussing any turn based challenges in any of the core encounters or any of the characters. Just parry strings and the discount inception concept of artists getting lost inside their work as a way of coping.

>>715978652
Please explain it to me in a way that's easy to understand

>>715971901
It's a shit year. And gaming is plagued by performative discourse addicts who need to call everything a MASTERPIECE now.

>>715976932
>The interactions between Gustave and Sciel did a lot to improve her standing in my eyes.
What the fuck are you genuinely talking about? Even if you do all the side content and all the camp conversations, the only party member with whom gustave has any real back and forth about anything is lune. He's one of the most underbaked characters ever.

>>715978652
I'm sorry you're a manlet monkey that needs to pretend to be a part of online fan communities centered around slop in order to make up for your real life failures

>>715966414 (OP)
It is very unfortunate that you aren't white.

I do think Sciel and Lune kinda lose relevancy with the twist, and they don't bring it back with good side content for them. Lune gets a reused boss and a tiny area, and Sciel got nothing.

>>715980354
Why are you a manlet? Why didn't your mother choose better? If she had, maybe the best part of your year would've been something real, and not just jerking off when this game wins at Keighley's show at the end of the year

>>715980465
Sciel is never relevant. Bottom of the barrel character for a bottom of the barrel game.

>>715980465
I will always hate Sciel with a passion because she cucked me out of a romance with best girl Lune with her whorish tricks.

>>715970535
>his death makes him memorable
If someone dying is the only think that makes them memorable then they weren't memorable to begin with.
>Lune
is insufferable