Has anyone got an idea when the 8BitDo Ultimate 3 will be released?

A month ago I bought myself the Switch 2 Pro 2 Controller (or whatever it's called), and my first impressions during first days were that it's absolutely fantastic, new new plastic is better, feels better and doesn't become greasy like the old Pro Controller from Switch 1 did. But after 2-3 weeks of usage, I started getting shoulder pain, and I don't know if it's from my chair (docked mode playing), or from playing handheld on sofa, but I was starting to think it may have come from playing with the new Pro 2 controller, so I switched to back to playing with Deltaco's Mini controller (a controller I bought shortly before release of Switch 2, I thought I'd let my friends use this small cheap controller on Switch 1, while I hog the Pro 1 controller, but having noticed how sticky/greasy the pro controller had become from poor storage or reaction to some other plastics in a bag, the deltaco mini became my go-to controller for Switch 1 gaming) in hopes that its lightweight would make the shoulder pain go away. Well it's hard to say if it was the controller alone, because I've also unintentionally stopped sofa gaming as well (handheld while laying on a sofa, without any ergo grips), but the shoulder pains are mostly gone.

It was like couple of days or so after going through this, that I noticed some youtuber hade made a video, pointing out that the more extreme angles that the grips of Pro 2 controller has, causes discomfort, and that youtuber in question made claim that he got injured by this new controller, because of how unergonomic it is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B91WhedKOyU

So now I'm naturally curious about 8BitDo controllers, or other third party controllers. I'm in a look out for a controller that has similar plastic that Pro 2 controller has, since that's the most comfortable thing about Pro 2 for me, that it doesn't attract icky/greasy feel to it (weird that Pro 1 does, because I never operate tech/electronical devices with greasy hands). I want to buy Ultimate 2 just because, but if Ultimate 3 is just around corner, I'd rather wait for that. But if Ultimate 2 doesn't have right plastic, then I'd like someone who's held Pro 2 controller point me to a third party controller that has same/similar plastic that Pro 2 has. I saw some new 8BitDo controller have the feature of detaching the axby and reordering them (since they're attached with magnets), I'm assuming the Ultimate 2 didn't have this feature, but the Ultimate 3 might have. I think the thing going for Switch Pro 2 is that you can re-arrange the extra buttons on software level, but I use that feature very rarely personally, and I don't wanna develop any carpal tunnel or shoulder problems, so I'd rather not touch Pro 2 controller if there's any risk involved with it.

I thought this company was going bankrupt from tariffs.

>>715974786
The tariffs are for the Americans, not the Chinese

>>715974896
makes sense

no controller will fix your weak aging tranny joints

>>715974421 (OP)
What improvements does pro 2 bring over 1? I've being using the pro 1 for almost 2 years, great kit.

>>715974421 (OP)
>But after 2-3 weeks of usage, I started getting shoulder pain
This is reddit as fuck

>>715975043
The stick glides and are silent. The abxy buttons are sharper / easier to find, and - and + buttons come upwards more and are also more easier to find. The d-pad is said to be ever so slightly better, but nothing phenomenal. For me it's the plastic itself, it has anti-grease feel to it, it doesn't get icky and stuff. If it weren't for the more aggressive angles that pro 2 has, I'd probably use it more often, because I've recently returned to Pro 1 (since it has better gyro than deltaco mini, which does have gyro but not nearly as good as pro 1), and Pro 1 if my hands are at all sweaty the controller feels weird, while the plastic on Pro 2 is "your hands sweaty? not a problem" because nothing sticks to that plastic.

For those of you who have an Ultimate 2: how does it feel in your hand? Is its shape closer to an Xbox controller or a Switch pro controller?

>>715976734
Same, I wanna know if I should just buy a Ultima 2 now. Being able to re-arrange those buttons would be cool, but I have no idea when Ultimate 3 is coming

NO
FUCKING
GYRO

>>715976734
Ultimate 2's shell has a similar overall form factor to a Switch 1 Pro, so tiny hands guy in the OP would be fine with it. However, the Ultimate's face buttons and shoulder buttons are smaller, more xbox-like, and the angle at which the sides/grips flare out are a little slimmer/square on the Ultimate (not really enough to make a difference).
My hands are huge so personally I wasn't too fond of it despite using an Ultimate for 2+ years. Nintendo and Xbox layouts feel cramped to me.

>>715974421 (OP)
>>But after 2-3 weeks of usage, I started getting shoulder pain
Train your rotator cuffs, rear, and side delts.

I just ordered a 8BitDo controller last night, what a coincidence. But just the $50 ultimate since I'm a filthy casual and rather spend the other dollars elsewhere. Maybe I'll get back into Rocket League, that was a fun game... mainly got it for DBZ KAKAROT after trying to play it without a controller

>>715978325
It has gyro, you just can't use it while using analog triggers

>>715978569
Yeah I might have to look into it, I think I may have them weak

>>715978680
no retard that's SWITCH MODE on Ultimate 1/bluetooth
Ultimate 2 doesn't h ave switch mode unless you pay $20 for a receiver
Ultimate bluetooth 2 is slow as shit

>>715979321
Why would you need to buy a receiver when the controller comes with one in the bottom of the dock?

>>715979321
nta but can you recommend me some 3rd party controller, that has plastic surface with same feel as procon2 plastic?

>>715974991
you now understand how tariffs work better than our president

>>715979454
because they purposefully don't give you that option so you have to spend the money?
>>715979458
gyro works on switch fine, i like the controller i'm just angry that they don't let you use the hardware that's on it unless you pay
if you don't care about latency (still better than switch procon2) you can get the bluetooth version which i'm pretty sure works with gyro on pc

>>715974421 (OP)
Fuck yeah dude can't wait to *hits diagonal*

>>715979841
What? You get the dongle with the controller FOR FREE.

>>715980181
I think he accidentally bought Ultimate 2C, and thinks that's the "Ultimate 2". Linus tech tips made a big fuzz about that controller in some vid of his, so it's understandable people bought that garbage (2c has completely different sticks than ultimate 2)

>>715980335
I can't blame him if that's the case. I almost did the same thing until I looked into why it was so much cheaper.

>>715980335
>>715980181
the one you get doesn't have proper firmware, you need to buy a separate product

>>715980564
Update the firmware for free.
You get everything you need to use gyro on the Ultimate 2 without paying extra.

>>715980632
no you don't but feel free to prove it

>>715980564
Elaborate. Isn't there like only 1 version of Ultimate 2? Pretty sure there's only 1 version of Ultimate 2

>>715974421 (OP)
the pro 3 releases august 12th.

>>715980727
I did prove it. >>715979454
You bought the 2C, not the 2. They are different.

>>715980803
Yea it's the pro 3 that made me curious if the release of Ultimate 3 might happen this year, too, but just because Pro 3 is coming, it might not mean Ultimate 3 is near. What matters to me also is the surface plastic, if the controller doesn't have same kind of plastic that Procon 2 has, I'm not sure if I'd use 8BitDo controller, even if it's good. I've come to notice that having good plastic is important for me

>>715980730
you need this and on original ultimate you needed beta firmware from support
https://shop.8bitdo.com/products/8bitdo-wireless-usb-adapter-2-for-switch-windows-mac-raspberry-pi-compatible-with-xbox-series-x-s-controller-xbox-one-bluetooth-controller-switch-pro-and-ps5-controller

there's 2 versions of ultimate 2: bluetooth and 2.4ghz
bluetooth supports switch mode
>>715980858
that's the OLD one you ape the ultimate 2 comes with usb-c adapter

>>715980730
No, there's 2C (2 Cheap) and 2.
Ultimate 2 has 6 shoulder buttons and two back paddles. It also comes with a dock and dongle.
Ultimate 2C is just a basic wireless controller that only works through bluetooth.

>>715980950
>Ultimate 2C is just a basic wireless controller that only works through bluetooth.
this isn't even right since there's 4 versions of 2C

>>715974786
Americans are paying the tariffs, Anon.

>>715981049
And none of them have back paddles or gyro.
Ultimate 2 can do gyro out of the box, for free.

>>715981114
ok then prove it where does it say that

>>715981059
And people buy less of something when it costs more money. Why don't you understand how tariffs work?

>>715981170
Are you intentionally being retarded?

>>715981205
if it was available you could just google the fucking amazon page and show it to me

>>715981205
>And people buy less of something when it costs more money.
Not to the point it will put a company out of business. And if it supposedly ever gets to that point, then the country enforcing the tariffs will have to back off just like how America did when China threatened to halt all mineral shipments.

>>715981256
You could go find it yourself, but you won't.

>>715981297
you're fucking wrong and you know it shut the fuck up or prove it i checked a million times otherwise i wouldve already bought it

>>715981275
>your biggest market is america
>200% tariff gets applied to your product in that market
>almost everyone from america stops buying your product
Why is this so hard for euros to understand?

>>715981347
Retard

I will never boughting 8bitdo again. For me next will be GameSir when they put all good shit into 1 controller. I want: the very bestest anti-drift, good buttons that arent loud, actually usable dpad, triggers that dont snap off, grip that isnt slimy, back buttons, software.

Has anyone managed to find a third party controller with similar feel/plastic than to that used in Switch Pro2 ? Ideally it would have to have gyro support on it too, and low lag

>>715981413
ok then you have nothing to fucking show great good job ape

>>715981437
you already posted that question itt

>>715980335
The 2C is pretty good considering it costed me $14

>>715981427
My 8bitdo does all of that. The only thing it doesn't do is allow me to bind the back paddles in steam, or use the gyro with analog triggers.
Just wait for the Steam controller 2

>>715981470
If you go look on the amazon page for the Ultimate 2 you will see the dongle in the second preview image. You won't do that though because you know you're wrong and are trying to save face on an ANONYMOUS image board.
Protip: No one will remember your embarrassing posts after this thread dies.

>>715981549
Yes but nobody has responded. It's almost like nobody on /v/ has used Procon 2, lmao

>>715981413
That's the thing though, the US taco'd out from a 200% tariff.

>>715981739
Well there you go, that's why 8bitdo didn't go under. It just proves my point further.

>>715981613
no you fucking can't it's USB-C you monkey link the fucking amazon page

>>715981793
>>715981275

>>715981413
>your biggest market is america
Proof?

>>715981413
>And YOU let it happen

>>715981803
See that tiny switch on the back center? That switches between bluetooth and dongle mode.

>>715982060
it does your point?

>>715981923
>>715981972
America is the biggest consumer market. You lose American sales you either need to downsize or die.

>>715982118
It works through bluetooth and USB-C.

>>715982157
Source?

>>715982157
>America is the biggest consumer market
>>715982285
ok proof?

>>715982157
Anon, you're missing the entire point. Why do you think China never bothered to call back, halted mineral shipments, forced the Americans to CALL THEM, and got the tariffs revoked?

Reality isn't playing out the way your posts suggest.

>>715982157
>America is the biggest consumer market
this is so blatantly false but if that's what americans believe.... lol
>>715982285
ok proof?

>>715982325
the dongle is USB-A though

just boughted the ultimate 2c
what am I in for bros

>>715982482
no it's fucking not are you stupid you can literally see and read it on the page

>>715982406
Because China is the biggest producer and wanted to threaten the biggest consumer.
Being the biggest market doesn't mean you are the biggest producer. We sadly gave that away to China years ago.

>>715982519
Diagonal inputs

>>715982482
So what? Most of electronics is USB-A to USB-C . When do you need USB-C to USB-C ? Only if you're charging your smartphone, even charging a controller USB-A to USB-C is more than fine

>>715982519
not being able to run while using any of the face buttons because it doesnt have paddles

>>715982482
>>715982531
ok nevermind i just checked and it is sadly C these fucks

>>715982619
USB-C should be standard on everything. You can just use an adapter if you need USB-A

>>715982664
not that it matters they could easily just let you fucking use the switch mode but they want you to buy 2 controllers

>>715974786
You don't get it amazon is exempt from chinkshit tarrifs, so amazon gets to be one of the few to sell you chinkshit for vaguely chink prices
>>715974421 (OP)
The ultimate 2 literally just came out bro

>>715982320
>>715982325
what shade of brown are you?

>>715982679
>USB-C should be standard on everything
Why? I have good PC, and it too only has 2-3 USB-C ports, and like 12-14 USB 3.x (A) ports, most PCs only have 1-2. Are you here to astroturf/shit the thread or what the fuck are you doing?

>>715982807
American-brown

>>715982598
The fact is America was the one coming to beg China to resume exports, not the other way around.

>>715982807
ironic coming from a 56%er but i heard that mutts still study trigonometry in college so i take math isn't your strongest suit

>>715982812
desktops are for the poor

>>715982812
>better connector
>allows for more ports in the same space
>can do more (power, video, PCIe, etc)
>easy to adapt to any other connector (including HDMI, display port, etc.)
You could have 20 USB-C ports

>>715982621
You don't need paddles, you can bind shit to the extra shoulders

>>715983051
the thing is i doubt they're very comfortable to use

>>715983051
paddles are fine faggot boy

>>715974421 (OP)
ultimate 2 does not support the switch.
ultimate 1 (specifically the bluetooth version) does

>>715983051
No, I need 2 extra shoulder buttons and 2 extra paddles.

>>715982976
>>715982984
Why did some indian shill come to my thread? I was just asking simple question, what's a good 3rd party controller with surface feel to Pro2 controller, and this is the shit 4chan marketeers send to me.

>>715981613
>Just wait for the Steam controller 2
When the fuck is that releasing?
My Vader 4 Pro X button just broke. I barely used it, it was a Christmas gift, so no warranty.

>>715982976
Rich people use the floor instead, right?

>>715983147
>ultimate 2 does not support the switch.
What?

https://www.amazon.com/8BitDo-Bluetooth-Controller-Switch-Gaming-Console/dp/B0FFGQ6J35/

this is coming to mog any ultimate

>>715983262
Only poor jeets shill USB-A.

>>715983262
We're talking about USB-C retard
How is that marketing?
Do you think the USB standards consortium cares what a mongloid like you thinks? If they did then maybe we wouldn't have dumb shit like "USB Gen 3.2 x 4 10 gigabit per second"

>>715983290
the rich use high priced laptops loser

>>715983416
>SNES button layout
>symmetrical basedsticks on the bottom
It was so close to being perfect

>>715983350
That's a switch specific version.

>>715983262
Nigga all plastic shit feels the same, you just want to feel special by saying you can appreciate the nuances in the texture of fucking plastic

>>715983350
oh nevermind, I'm retarded and bought the one with the Xbox layout on the face buttons, had no idea there's was different version....
In my defence they shit out a ton of these controllers and they all look the same

>>715983496
USB 3, 3.1, 3.2 or whatever... they're all USB A. You don't need USB-C for anything, I certainly never did. Fuck off, shill.

>>715983416
>iconic™ Dualshock™ design™
>with ABXY
Thanks faggots.

>>715983594
you can change the button layout

>>715983676
>>715983629
I'm pretty sure it works on both Switch and PC no matter what.

>>715983531
And they use them on a fucking desk

>>715983653
No it doesn't all feel same, the texture of Switch 2 pro controller doesn't capture geasy/sweat/oil same way that the Pro 1 controller does. Maybe I have sensitive hands idk

>>715983730
the store page for mine specifically says only android/windows. And I have tried connecting it to the switch 2 without luck.
But I have a ultimate 1 and that one works so no big deal

>>715983496
Buy an ad and stop shilling for the USB consortium, real men use serial port for their IO needs

A few years ago I bought an SN30 Pro 2
The d-pad gave me false diagonals and the gyro worked like absolute shit with it bugging out and being overall pretty laggy compared to the dualsense. I couldn't use my original SNES contact pads either like I did with the Pro +
I don't like the place where the d-pad is, but at the very least, have they improved some of these things with these ultimate controllers?
I know that there's at least differences between their M30 revisions, since I have an original M30 and an Xbox version, and what's supposed to be the same about them is definitely slightly different (now the ball bearing mod doesn't work on the newer one).

>>715983719
SNES buttons are also more slanted than modern controllers.

>>715983851
Maybe lose weight so that you can stop sweating like a fat obese fuck

>>715983891
>serial
tranny tech, real men use parallel and scsi (pronounced SCUZZY)

>>715983416
I'll be honest, it has way to many shit I don't need bloating the price. Swappable magnetic buttons? Five gorillion extra buttons when every single modern game designed without them in mind, let alone none of the old games need them? Fucking ball-tops? Extra super nano ultra accurate joysticks when only negative IQ niggers play shooters with a gamepad and everything else can be played with any sticks? Hall-effect on fucking triggers?
It would be like $40 without all that crap.

>>715984004
I asked quite simple question, yet nobody seem to be able to provide an answer

>>715983289
Sad, I have a 3 without any problems. Can't you fix it?

>>715984281
Because nobody cares about the stupid plastic shit
https://youtu.be/_DKNYJlb0dY

>>715984515
Maybe consoomers like you don't. Ironic you call someone else fat, when you're viewed like a consumer pig by these corpos you worship

>>715984437
No, I tried updating firmware, factory reset, re calibration, changing modes.
It seems like the switch is broke. If I press and hold, it wont stay pressed. If i press it a lot, like every other click registers. The only way to fix it would be opening it up and soldering a new switch on it, which I dont have the equipment or skill to do.
I am saddened because I like the controller otherwise. Especially with the two front buttons mapped to LS click and RS click was really nice for RAIDOU. I hate pressing LS and RS.
I want to just buy another one, but don't want to reward a company for shitty manufacturing.

>>715974421 (OP)
How am I supposed to trust any reviews when this piece of shit got 5 stars?

>>715985230
>How am I supposed to trust any reviews
You're not, 99,99% are paid shills or retards who don't actually know a good pad from a bad one

>>715974786
So did I lol

bump, anyone found third party gamepad that has same feel to Pro 2 controller?

>>715987602
Tegenaria Lite
More accurately, it's basically a Dualshock 4

Problem with third party controllers is gyro, you most likely wont find better gyro than what Pro controllers have.

>>715988559
very interesting

>>715974421 (OP)
I held my switch 2 controller and my hands dwarf his. I have average medium sized palms and slightly short fingers, so this guy has legitimate baby hands. Don't take too much stock in what he says if you aren't a manlet like him. I played through Stellar Blade and Lies of P back to back on the ultimate 2, and those are parry heavy action games. No discomfort or cramps, but it's worth mentioning that unlike with xbox controllers, the Ultimate 2's bumpers don't wrap around the sides, so they're not as easy to press with the hook of your index fingers while they're resting on the triggers. If you play games that make heavy use of the shoulder buttons, then it'll take some adjustment using index and middle finger as opposed to just index.

>>715978325
The ultimate 2 wireless (for pc) had steam d-input patched in, which means you can have analog triggers and gyro at the same time. Also you can remap the extra buttons to anything on the keyboard through steam, which means you can map all 7 skills in Mass Effect 3, a game which arbitrarily locks you down to 3 when using a controller

>>715980103
Every good dpad fails the meme contra test. Hitting diagonals when you jiggle the dpad from a cardinal is by design. Try playing a 3d game like avalon code or dragon quest on the DSi and tell me not being able to hit diagonals easily is comfortable, you can't.

>>715989680
>it's shit by design
lol
>go play a 3d game with a d-pad
lmao

>>715982412
>this is so blatantly false
Collectively Europe is a bigger market, but not by much. EUfags seem to forget that the US is a single country, and it's consumer protection laws are kinda shit, which makes it a more enticing market to trade with.

>>715990225
>it's shit by design
You're just confirming you don't know what a good dpad is.
>go play a 3d game with a d-pad
Don't like that valid example? Fine. Try playing Street Fighter II with a d-pad that has hard to hit diagonals. It's hell.

The right trigger on my ultimate doesn't fully register anymore after ~1 year
I remapped both triggers to the back buttons just in case.

>>715991106
>Try playing Street Fighter II with a d-pad that has hard to hit diagonals.
Try playing Street Fighter II when you're hitting unintended diagonals every other fucking input.
Oh what's that, you hit right on the D-pad? Well too fucking bad, you're 1 millimiter too far up it's now a diagonal up-right input get fucked.
Also since you brought up fighting games: you literally can't hit consistent 632146 inputs on 8bitdo's chinkshit D-pads

>>715976734
it feels "cheaper" and lighter
but man it's so good for the price, it comes with the dongle and has FUCKING RECHARGEABLE BATTERY

to me it's perfect and if it dies i can buy like 4 for the price of 1 xbox joystick

>>715992230
How much did it cost? Why not just buy pro controller 2, which will last you forever?

>>715991837
>Try playing Street Fighter II when you're hitting unintended diagonals every other fucking input.
I can't speak for past 8bitdo controllers like the 2c or 2.4ghz (fucking retarded naming scheme) but 632146 is totally doable on the Ultimate 2 Wireless. My main complaint is it's not a symmetrical controller for d-pad heavy games, and if I'd known that 8bitdo would drop the Pro 3 four months later, then I probably would have waited for it instead.

Dont like the Ultimate at all.
Looking forward to the Pro 3 though.

>>715993373
nta but what are the pros and cons of having symmetrical controller like your picrel? I haven't been doing much gaming with PS3, 4 or 5 controllers, so I can't what are the pros and cons of having assymetrical stick layout vs having symmetrical one. My current 2d game is Mercenary Kings, and 3d game is splatoon 3 (so I need gyro, too)

>>715993538
Why is Pro 3 better than Ultimate 2? Would Ultimate 3 have any features that would make it better than Pro 3?

>>715993616
I just like the shape more.

>>715974786
TACO

>>715974421 (OP)
I have the Ultimate 2 and its pretty great. I have no complaints about it.

>>715994010
What about for Switch 2 gaming? Does it have good enough gyro for splatoon 3?

>>715993616
>nta but what are the pros and cons of having symmetrical controller like your picrel?
Just the shape, really. 2d games are more comfortable to play when you have the dpad on the left side as the primary movement input in my opinion. As far as I can tell the 8bitdo Pro 3 and Ultimate 2 (wireless) have feature parity, but the Pro 3 has the QoL feature of the toggle on the back having dedicated D-input and Switch input, so there's no worry of the controller turning off before you dock it and having to wake it while holding home + y for switch mode or home + b (D-input) for steam like on the Ultimate 2. Avoid the 8bitdo Ultimate 2 Bluetooth version for switch, it's a cut down dogshit version of the PC ultimate 2 that is sold at a premium for tendies. It has worse polling rate and compatibility than the Pro 3 or Ultimate 2 (for PC).

>Would Ultimate 3 have any features that would make it better than Pro 3?
Not really, unless 8bitdo add touch sensitive sticks like on the Steam Deck or Steam Horipad.

>>715980926
>Yea it's the pro 3 that made me curious if the release of Ultimate 3 might happen this year, too,
The Ultimate 2 released like 3 months ago. Ultimate 3 isn't coming out until late 2026 at the earliest.

>>715990472
china has 1,5 billion fucking people and europe has twice the amount of people US does you fucking retard get real

>>715983884
Download the Ultimate 2 software for PC and upgrade the firmware on the controller and the dongle. They patched in D input and Switch input. You just have to do a macro from sleep. It's hold Home + b for d-input (Analog triggers + Gyro on PC) or Home + y for s-input (Switch). Keep in mind that you should be using the dongle for the 1000 hz polling rate, because bluetooth mode is just 125 hz.

>>715974421 (OP)
I have the ultimate 2.4g and i cant seem to get it to work on the switch 2. Its on the latest firmware and i tried both modes, turned wired connection on on the console, still nothing. Do i just need to buy another? Im not digging the joycons

>>715996327
Any idea how it works on Linux? I had a King Kong 2 that worked great on linux, but it broke, so I got a King Kong 3 and it had numerous issues with linux.

>>715974786
>tarriffs magically make money dissapear apparently
Why did i never hear about this magical phenomenon before le heckin evil orange man said they were good?

>>715996491
This is my guess, but you might need to buy some adapter or something (maybe adapter 2 to be safe), unless they decide to release firmware upgrade to make ultimate 1 switch 2 compatible. I'd ask their support through chat or email. What I've noticed is Switch Pro 1 can't seem to be able to wake up Switch 2 from sleep, so if that feature is important (you don't have switch 2's dock at your arm's length), then Switch Pro 2 controller might be the way to go. I only have pro 1, pro 2 and deltaco mini controllers, but I might be looking into some third party controller if I find something nice

>>715996635
I do recall them having some "running out of business sale" a few months back. Never cared enough to really look into it though.

>>715996290
>china has 1,5 billion fucking people
Yeah, and they get paid pennies to work in sweatshops because going full automation would put 90% of china's work force out of work, and that would destroy their country with revolution. This is also why China cannot survive a prolonged tariff war, if people stop buying their shit, then in the short term Chinese factories wind down production and people can't earn money to survive.
>europe has twice the amount of people US does you fucking retard get real
Twice the population and the GDP is barely higher. This means that aside from affluent and productive countries like Germany that are propping up the whole EU, you have a bunch of poorfag countries like Greece or the baltics where people don't have as much disposable income to buy shit on a whim.

>>715997214
And? How many people in US drives a car without any insurance? How many are without any ID?

>>715997214
>Yeah, and they get paid pennies to work in sweatshops
is this really what americans believe? you know your government spends billions on anti china propaganda?
>This is also why China cannot survive a prolonged tariff war
yeah that's why trump cucked out
>Greece or the baltics where people don't have as much disposable income to buy shit on a whim.
what? half of US' GDP is made by 1% of the population are you fucking retarded?

>>715997657
>is this really what americans believe? you know your government spends billions on anti china propaganda?
Chinese exports are cheaper because Chinese workers get paid less than their western equivalents for the same amount of labor, and this is an indisputable fact.
>yeah that's why trump cucked out
He really didn't, the tarrifs are at like +55% compared to the +30% that were already in place since his first term. This is how Trump operates, he shocks everyone with absurdly high demands and then scales back to something more digestible compared to the extreme. The markets are actually doing well despite his tariff threats because people have cottoned on to his extreme style of haggling and trust he will always scale back so that the US get's a little bigger slice of the pie, but not enough to kill trade entirely.
>what? half of US' GDP is made by 1% of the population are you fucking retarded?
And the other half is made by half the population of the EU, however even the poorest US states have more disposable income because they aren't taxed to shit.

>>715996519
>Any idea how it works on Linux?
No.

>>715999532
gdp per capita is a joke metric

>>715999778
True, but that doesn't change the fact that some guy earning 40k a year in bumfuck Alabama as a car mechanic is living more than comfortably and has cash to burn.

>>715999532
>Chinese exports are cheaper because Chinese workers get paid less than their western equivalents for the same amount of labor, and this is an indisputable fact.
partially, chinese exports are cheap because making shit in china is cheap, wages are part of the equation, another one is cheap yuan while US dollar is one of the strongest currencies
the thing is that 8bitdo sells $15 and $50 controllers that are definitely cheaper in china which anyone can afford. China is really not that poor at all and it has larger middle class than any country on earth
>He really didn't, the tarrifs are at like +55% compared to the +30% that were already in place since his first term
he cucked out of electronics tariff and gpu embargo and you're fucking retarded if you genuinely think that was the plan
>US get's a little bigger slice of the pie
that's really wishful thinking
tariffs don't work because it's just moved to vietnam and sent from there and they know and can't do shit about it
>however even the poorest US states have more disposable income because they aren't taxed to shit.
>shows gdp
>for a $15/$40 controller (probably half the price in china)
yeah i dont know what your argument even is

I've had an SN30 Pro since 2018, have put thousands of hours on it.

I hate it and wish it would break so I could justify getting a new controller.

>>715999763
??? that's a man

What's a good controller with a solid d-pad?

>>715993373
They tend to use pivots that are too small (perpendicular directions easy to accidentally press and sometimes hard to release), some old revisions have a worse PCB for it, and frequently you get a QC failing on top like the d-pad biasing in a certain direction. Ultimate 2, Ultimate 2C, and Pro 3 have tactile d-pads so the higher actuation force helps mask or outright eliminates these flaws. My N30 Pro 2 (old PCB) and SN30 Pro+ (new PCB, biased towards up) were outright unusable for fighting games. SN30 Pro (new PCB) is usable but sloppy enough on diagonals that I'd still rather not.

>>716005152
Tech Shrek (now Fiona) is an ogre, not a man.

>>716005672
more respect honestly

>>716005257
>Ultimate 2, Ultimate 2C, and Pro 3 have tactile d-pads so the higher actuation force helps mask or outright eliminates these flaws.
I figured as much. I never get unwanted diagonals on the Ultimate 2 when I press a cardinal, regardless of whether I press down dead center or on the corner of the direction I want. I have to consciously press a little harder in the diagonal direction to feel the second "click" from the adjacent input and trigger a diagonal. Overall It's a good d-pad, Perfect for menu navigation and good for 2d platformers, but ideally you'd want a more d-pad centric controller like the Pro 3 for those kinds of games.

>>716005205
Sega Saturn controller with USB adapter.

>>715974421 (OP)
get the pro3 instead

>>715983730
>>715983884
To be clear: for some fucking reason there are two versions of the 8bitdo Ultimate 2 with bluetooth. One has xbox colored face buttons and the modes are 2.4ghz with included dongle or bluetooth dinput. The other version has white text face buttons with Switch layout, this version has Switch mode bluetooth.

However, if you use the 8bitdo adapter 2 (the black one), the non-switch version can work on a Switch, so not a big deal.

>>716010610
Why are chinks like this

>>715978661
I have the original ultimate you ordered.
It still works perfectly
What the hell are they doing with a 3rd version?

>>715975407
>it has anti-grease feel to it, it doesn't get icky and stuff
the textured grip on the back is like a magnet for gamer gunk

>>716012129
sweet, that's good to hear, I ordered it without doing extensive research, the main things I was looking for: Hall effect joysticks, the hall effect triggers would have been nice too...but whatever, linux compatibility, and that's it really. Wireless/BT is just a nice to have too, never had a wireless gamepad. Last thing I got was a wired xbox controller from ebay and I had to replace some of the dirty pots on the triggers I think, but I recently (a few months ago really) took it out and a button wasn't working so I've been thinking about getting a new one. Looking forward to trying Pull Stay again