Is KoFXIII the biggest posercore fighting game?

You seem to want to believe it is, so sure.

>>715990823 (OP)
KOF13, SF3 and GGXX are the trinity of poser fighting games

>>715990823 (OP)
>Had its chance to shine with a rollback update
>lock it behind PS4 and Switch
>then months after the hype died announce a PC version
>Instead of asking Code Mystics to handle it they ask Safari Games to do it, which results in a complete mess to the point the original Steam Edition was recommended over it
>even after the fixes it still has netcode issues and can barely keep double digits for its playerbase
I guess SNK believed porting SVC Chaos was more important.

>>715994753
I genuinely can't believe how retarded SNK is. You think at some point they would learn, but they keep making stupid decision after stupid decision.

>>715990823 (OP)
Always thought Mai's 5head in XIII was too big.

>>715990823 (OP)
no thats xturd

>>715990823 (OP)
It's a good game, that's why is one of the few KOF games that will see some level of discussion.
>>715994753
>I guess SNK believed porting SVC Chaos was more important.
They probably thought SVC was more important because of the crossover with SF6.
They a bunch of idiots, the failure of COTW is all the proof you need

short hop D simulator

>>715990823 (OP)
Xrd

>>715990823 (OP)
Nah that's Rev 2

>>715995078
A lot of characters look like shit XIII honestly. SNK had the retarded idea to make the sprites 3d models but do the models inhouse despite having no real experience with 3d character models. It's why most guys look roided out and most girls have twig limbs.

>>715990823 (OP)
no thats strive

>>715990823 (OP)
Darstalkers and it's not even close.

>>715995892
the issue isn't even the models, it's that they didn't do any shading touchups after tracing them.

>>715996038
As someone who actually plays it, yeah. People want to whine either about not getting a new game or how it shouldn't get a new game than just playing the existing ones.

>>715996038
At least Vampire Savior is still popular in Japan, is KoF13 still played in other countries?

Funny how consensus on this game flipped as more and more people who never actually played it started chiming in

>>715990823 (OP)
Did Garou 2 succeed?
I thought it would become the next big thing.

>>715994928
>Nip tech company that formed nearly 50 years ago and has survived the ultimate gauntlet of nip bubbles along with multiple pan-asian and global financial crises
>Retarded
Anon...

>>715996938
>survived
they're property of the arabs lol

>>715990823 (OP)
do you have to be an angry person to be good at fighting games? I lose to people and just want to play more, I don't get frustrated

>>715996938
>getting tossed around by the chinks and sandniggers was all planned actually

>>715997265
that and have a fragile ego

>>715996896
They need to make this into a sequel with updated Kengan verse character roster and all associated characters, its a fun casual wrestling-tier (but in a good way) 1v1 brawler that has parries and dodges and attack combos. I think the souls like players would enjoy the game if they tried it also highly detailed body part damage system rather than just generic "health bar lol get smacked around as much as you want." Also they can include Baki characters and Garouden characters as well as those Dumbbell side characters since they exist in Kengan verse. That would be a fucking kino with 100+ characters.
> Casual enough for everyone to pick up hard to master with variety characters.
Make it a tag team and its gold.

>>715992897
>>715995803
>>715995843
I'm not one of them and I can confirm these games are kino

>>715992897
spbp

>>715997265
every fighting game player is some degree o DSP/LTG

>>715996938
Anon, the original SNK literally went bankrupt in 2000/2001.

>>715997265
all that matters is that you have some source of motivation. frustration can be one of them, though it can quickly turn into discouragement.

>>715998010
>no frustration
>no motivation to do better

I guess it's a double-edged sword

>>715998406
this means you achieved inner peace and doesnt need to cope with play farting games

>>715996038
this

>>715995892
here's the kof method
all the shading is the reason they had to cut moves/characters

>>715995892
the roids and kawaii was added later

>>715999921
2d sprites...my beloved...you will come back again, I promise

>>716000000

>>716000084
Athena was a MASSIVE upgrade, holy shit.

>>715999921
>basis for sprite comparisons are '03/XI Kyo and...'94/'95 Terry
>you'd never guess one was up to a decade newer than the other just from looking at them
I mean I get it, Terry had the MotW look in the games they took that Kyo sprite from, so they couldn't compare it side-by-side with XII. But this kind of thing is why they can never take off, they expend so much resource only to look heavily dated compared to their peers every single time, even back in the '90s. Some of their spritework even got worse in the NeoGeo era, like Shingo's intro vs. Kyo in XI looks terrible compared to '98.

>a high level player one and dones you
>look up a video where they get 2-0'd

yea thats what you get for being bad

>>715990823 (OP)
fighting games are the biggest posercore genre

I'd rather play 02 UM but the aesthetic of 12/13 is spritework taken at its most expensive form. It's the one game I recommend people play to play the KOF experience, even over 98 UM

>>716000084
athena got american kirby'd

>>715990823 (OP)
I still think that's Darkstalkers but I feel like every game gets called posercore these. People be saying SF4 is posercore soon.

>>715999921
Probably would've been better to just make some 3d models with like cel shading or something to make them look 2d

>the "hood classics" of fighting games have 300 players max
>forgoten shit games like old call of dutys battlefields and older civilization/strategy games that nobody talks about have 2k+ players
nobody plays fighting games

is the second release of XIII on steam okay to play at least offline or is the game still just all kinds of fucked up that it's best to play the original steam release?

pretty soon the FGC is going to be such an exclusive cool kids club where the posers are all kept out to the point there aren't any new fucking games. just tired of all this gatekeeping shit. "hurrr I'm a cool special boy because I play the fighting games, YOU can't be the cool special boy, what do you play? OH it's not the super special game *I* play, it's a POSER game" just shut the fuck up you infantile tribalistic fucking retards, nobody cares and you're pushing everyone into casualized bullshit that's going to replace everything else within the next 5 years. good fucking job

>>716001875
>where the posers are all kept out to the point there aren't any new fucking games.
You are stupid to think making fun of posers will lead to no new games. And no one is pushing anyone into anything we are just making note and making fun of the abundance of retards who love to talk and post about these certain games but don't actually play them.

>>716001875
>muh gatekeepin
Bitch shut the fuck up
I WISH """gatekeeping""" was even possible this decade, if it was then maybe we could have gotten a good Street Fighter 6 and/or Tekken 8 instead of the horrid, zoomer-tailored shit they gave us.

>>716002521
your hoe ass wouldn't have the nutsack to call someone a bitch to their face if this conversation was happening in person, shut your geek ass the fuck up

>>715990823 (OP)
I'd say garou mark of the wolves is the poser fighting game

I want to gatekeep sf and capcomfags from playing any other fighting games

>>716002378
not so much no new games so much as casualized bullshit to appeal to the masses because people know better than to fraternize than the insular geek weirdos who legit think they're superior human specimens for pressing the buttons good in order to learn them

>>716002686
>completely disregarding the actual point of the post
I accept your concession.
Gatekeeping is not real and your post is retarded, please shut the fuck up.

>>715994753
The fact that they made the rollback version 13 a separate steam listing instead of just updating the old one really pisses me off.
>just buy the game you already have, bro.

>>716002896
Go fuck yourself, assclown, I don't remember asking you. Your attention starving ass need acknowledgement for your precious "point"? That being
>gatekeeping isn't real
That's retarded. There

>gatekeeping isn't real, now get out
the level of retardation that /v/irgins operate on is something to be studied

>>716003025
>>716003098
Explain to me how I can """gatekeep""" people out of fighting games if the companies making the actual fucking games are catering harder than ever to casuals, retards, people who play single player modes primarily and so on?
Stupid cunt.
Go on, tell me what I specifically can do in your imaginary scenario to prevent this from happening.

>>716002752
they dont play any other games anyway so no need

>>715992897
XX is just the peak of the genre in general

I don't really give a shit about fighting games, but I'm forcing me myself to try out some old nintendo franchises right now and I'm playing killer instinct on the snes. I'm just curious, how much do "pro" fighting game players view that game? Is the combo system interesting or is it just a simple gimmick that's easy to solve? I suck ass at combo breakers, but I imagine it's partly because I have no fucking clue if the CPU are doing quick, medium, or fierce attacks

>>716003351
damn, you don't know when things are real AND you can't read. that might be schizophrenia my guy.

>>716003762
This is why no one takes goobers seriously

>>716000084
Athena's legs look juicy.

>>715999921
It's sad how much better the concept art looks over the final frame.

>>716003790
Only south americans take the old Killer Instinct games seriously, the rest just sees them as neat games with cool music.

0 kof lobbies

>>715995892
The artstyle is deliberate

>>715990823 (OP)
Any Guilty Gear game pre-Strive. Those guys scream and cry but never play.

>>716005328
but you don't play guilty gear so how would you know

>>716002752
Street Cultists don't play nor care about any other Fighting Game not named Street Fighter and not made by Capcom, so you don't have to worry about that.

>>716003762
And other things arcsys faggots love to spout

>>716003790
KI1 was pretty popular actually and well liked even if it wasn’t nearly as big as Capcom, MK, or SNK games.
2 was more meh and kinda killed interest in the series until KI 2013 revived it.

>>716004584
Her shins being as big as her thighs looks weird.

>>716005328
Only Xturds. +Rfags already let BB live rent free in their heads they don’t have room for Strive

>>716005938
every good fighting game has been made by Capcom. other devs should try making fighters that don’t suck

I agree with gatekeepfags. I would love this genre to gatekeep itself so it will finally die.

>>716005328
Same way strive players always post about bridget but never play

hope snk goes bankrupt again

cotw 20 bucks wen
stupid saudis, the game isn't fucking selling as it is

>>716006926
except they actually play we can see player numbers

>>715992897
it's unfortunate that ggxxx gets lumped in with those people, rightfully so, but still sad because in it's heyday it was a legitimately amazing fighting game with expressive characters and a unique scene
anyone playing +r now is a contrarian or just stuck in the past

>>716007696
I was on +R literal minutes ago and people were on.

>>716007786
It’s still the best one out there, why would players have to stop playing it just because it’s old?

>>716002378
>sub to Max Dood
This is the one that gets my jimmies rustled, fucking hell.

>>716002378
the playtime is spot on wtf

>>716008390
you can still refund it dude

>>716006926
Anon strive is literally the game you can do that "this is a poser game" shit the least out of all the GG games. That game'e certifiably played which is one of the many reasons why people seethe about it so much. There is a much of higher chance of someone who talks about strive actually playing it then say, someone who talked about bridget 10 years ago actually playing XX or someone who talked Xrd 4 years after sign released actually playing it.

>>716006926
The only people I ever see post about Bridget are Strive seethers, often totally unprompted.

>>716009579
The other ones are certifiably played too. Strive has far more posers than it has players. Most strive fans just like Bridget and the culture around it.

I just wasted an hour labbing ryo combos in 02 UM
i should be playing matches instead but there's a mental block that keeps me from queuing for matches

>>716009579
I once saw someone try claim they were an OG GG fan and when pressed they said that they were tapping to Bridget before Strivers were even born.
While that might be true, that is how the Bridget conversation is framed. They focus so much on a shitty retcon that doesn’t affect gameplay at all because it’s really about how you feel beating off to Bridget getting reamed.

>>716005082
>"it's SUPPOSE to look stupid"
Okay buddy.

>>716010020
>Strive has far more posers than it has players
Xrd Rev and especially Rev 2 flopped because everyone streamboared the game instead of playing it. That’s why Rev 3 got canned and Strive ended up playing the way it did.
Meanwhile Strive is getting a 5th season lmao. It absolutely had way more people who play.

>>716010030
Labbing is fun as fuck. That was no waste.

>>716010223
It has more people religiously defending it without playing it too

>>716010020
Anon you keep bringing up bridget when it is a literal fact that most of the playerbase doesn't give a fuck about that character the same way most of +R's playerbase doesn't give a shit about that lame fuck. Stop thinking about bridget and take your anti delusion meds.

>>716010030
At least you can queue for matches. I got PJ combos I’ve been working on for a couple of days and fuck all to use them on

>>716010326
I’m talking about on twitter or here. 99% of the angry posts about how strive is better than the old games are from people who never opened any game including strive. Because they see defending strive as their duty in the culture war.

>>716003762
third strike utterly mogs your shitty game

>>716010452
Dude you might actually be schizophrenic.

>>716010273
It doesn't, even if only because the entire population of r/kappachino seething about Strive while talking up +R and Xrd despite not playing any of them

>>716010452
>I’m talking about on twitter or here
why are you talking about twitter at all

why gg with their gayfaggotry always invade other fighting games thread? make your own this is kof thread

>>716010452
Anon I recognize you from other fg threads. You are literally ALWAYS the first person to bring up Bridget. Without fail.

>>716010326
I think that's from a poll, Bridget in game has an average popularity

>>716010564
You’re the one seething over guilty gear still being played.
>>716010563
Only sf2 or sf4 are close
>>716010598
You should see on twitter or here how many defenders strive has. It’s a lot more than 2000 so they ain’t playing.

>>716010667
No ESL-kun the OP question was just asking if KoF XIII is the biggest poser game. Meaning other fighters are a valid answer.
You can't have a KoF thread by itself because no one except Mexicans actually give a shit lmao

>>716010768
...You don't think 2k concurrent players = these are the only 2000 people on the planet that play the game right?

>>716010665
Because they were saying old gg has more posers which is wrong. That’s why I brought it up.
>>716010720
I didn’t mean to offend you, I’m just saying it’s disingenuous to pretend strive has less posers. I brought Bridget up because he’s the main source of strive fans seething over the old games.

>>716010739
I can believe that. I see a lot of Bridget players and they are all bad. Love beating that little faggot into the dirt.
Anji main btw

>>716010768
>It’s a lot more than 2000 so they ain’t playing.
post 2000 individual tweets from different accounts saying they don't play strive

>>716010890
No, but apparently you think 100 concurrent players means nobody plays +R, so by your logic yeah only 2000 people play strive.

>>716010921
>I brought Bridget up because he’s the main source of strive fans seething over the old games.
No he isn't lmao.

>>716010996
I’m not looking at anyone’s profile if they defend strive, that’s a recipe for disaster. There are some real weirdos like that.

>>716011010
>but apparently you think 100 concurrent players means nobody plays +R, so by your logic yeah only 2000 people play strive.
This makes no sense.

>>716010921
>Because they were saying old gg has more posers which is wrong.
I'm not sure that's true. And it's definitely not true if we examine things per capita or proportionally, considering how little people play +R or Rev 2 (at leas through the steam client).

>>716010667
It's not a kof thread it's a poser game thread and GG always had the biggest reputation of having an abnormally large amount of secondaries that still want to talk about the games or it's characters.
>>716010739
I still believe that chart means most don't give a damn about that blonde retardbait. Especially with how little you even see the fucker in matches online or at local tournaments(at least in celestial and floor 10)

>>716011190
>>716009579
barneyfag tier obsession of snipping some comments of iteralywhos

>>716010921
>I brought Bridget up because he’s the main source of strive fans seething over the old games.
But he isn't you fucking schizo. How many times are you gonna make this claim?

>>716011104
I know. That’s why your argument confuses me since you can’t read charts.
>>716011170
No, proportionately is the way to look at it. Strive’s larger number of posers is far greater than the difference in playercount.

>>716011035
>>716011390
Then why do they get so mad that they claim nobody plays +R? +R’s winquotes against bridget all make note of him being a guy. A ridiculous reason for them to hate a game so much, but also the only possible reason.

brisket

>>716011293
I think they reflect Xrd pretty well. Sign sold okay but Revelator and Rev 2 flopped (Rev 2 in particular was a disaster).
Xrd was the popular "bludgeon" game. It was used as a positive point of comparison to SFV, which was rightfully getting dumped on. But that never translated into sales and that's also why Strive ended up being that game that it is.

>>715990885
HOW ABOUT YOU HAVE A FUCKING CONVERSATION INSTEAD OF TRYING TO SHUT THE THREAD DOWN AS SOON AS IT STARTS? IS IT THAT FUCKING HARD?

>>716011435
>Strive’s larger number of posers is far greater than the difference in playercount.
There's no actual way to quantify this except sales data and Strive outsold the entire rest of the series combined.

>>716011710
And strive has more Bridget pfps that don’t play out there than there are guilty gear fans that don’t play.

>>716010978
>I see a lot of Bridget players and they are all bad.
Yeah I usually get filtered by the matchup
Then the second I get a hit in, it turns out they just know a bunch of tricks like super jump yoyo or fake pressure I'm respecting too much and they're not actually good.

>>716011190
>Especially with how little you even see the fucker in matches online or at local tournaments(at least in celestial and floor 10)
Bridget's like, low-mid tier and got kinda nerfed in the current meta because they buffed everyone's HP pool which makes her even worse since she now builds a shit ton of meter for her opponent to make a comeback
I think the character's got some cool setplay and niche combos like these
https://youtu.be/0fKRAlHeNqo

But every time I match one I just go "oh it's another one of these" after seeing the exact same pressure sequences and combos.
Kind of like Johnny players except their character sucks.

>>716011563
There is no anger it's just a little smug and dumb ribbing you goddamn pussy boy. SF and Tekken players do the same shit with 3rd strike or sfv, and any older Tekken game that's still playable online but they don't have a mentally ill dumbass like you claiming that it's all because of one character.

>>716011435
>proportionately is the way to look at it. Strive’s larger number of posers is far greater than the difference in playercount.
I'm not sure you know what proportionally means? Rev 2's triple-digit playercount means that proportionally for every single Rev 2 non-player there has to be twenty non-playing Strive supporters, which is a ratio so wild I feel a little ridiculous typing it out
Out of curiosity do you get into this conversation often on here because I am getting deja vu in this discussion

man I want to fuck mai, if you know what I mean
either way, I saw that the thread only had 18 images (when I opened it) and the first thing I did was look for the sprite where she exposes her tits and maybe pussy to everyone

>>715994753
>I guess SNK believed porting SVC Chaos was more important.
Dude, that game has a massive audience. Check any video criticizing the original game and read the comments. It's a guaranteed hit.

>>716011682
nta but this is a miserable ass thread starter to begin with. Stop worrying about posers in fighting games and inviting steam chartslop posting

Definitive lack of blazblue in this game
you know the game that popularized "fighting game not for fighting game fans"
also first of games with 1 button supers/specials and detailed autocombos by mashing

>>716012056
I never understood why people like Blazpoop to be quite honest with you desupai.

>>716011563
>but also the only possible reason
The actual reason is because they know it upsets +Rfags who don't like their game, which is a much simpler answer

>>716011931
Nah I can tell you and the other trannies are mad. You ain’t smug about shit no matter how much you try to hide it. You in particular may not be angry because of Bridget being a guy, but you’re mad because of something, whether it be the superiority of +R or the horrible state of strive’s community and game. There’s a good chance Bridget is what has you mad though.
>>716011938
Not often, but a bit ago I did talk to some schizo on here that gets mad whenever you post about guilty gear games and don’t like strive, so it’s probably a similar conversation.

>>716011938
>Out of curiosity do you get into this conversation often on here because I am getting deja vu in this discussion
He does. Every single time GG player counts are brought up he will bring up Bridget.

>>716012056
if the series would keep going we would definitively be seeing some posers but bb is dead and is only played by a bunch of dorky nerds that actually play the game so you cant really call them posers

>>716012056
No blazblue was just called the casual attractor game. It could never be considered a poser one because all those people who talked about the characters or only liking it for the visuals and story actually did play it which is why it's arcsys' 3rd best selling thing after dbfz and strive.

>>716012320
And every time you get mad that I reminded you about Bridget’s actual characterization

>>716012351
there are bunch of contrarian newfags that got into blazblue after rollback and think its some real hardcore anime fighting game

funny creatures

>>716012320
That's sort of what I figured, I remember him calling everyone a mad tranny who responded to him, even if they were being civil and had nothing to do with that mental illness

>>716012367
I've done nothing of the sort. I have called it a shitty retcon multiple times.
I'm just not mindbroken enough to think that little faggot actually matters.

>>716012434
>there are bunch of contrarian newfags that got into blazblue after rollback and think its some real hardcore anime fighting game
Yeah they're the same nerds that defended the Carl petition.
Must really want those Dominos gift cards they're playing for.

>>716012482
I wouldn’t call anyone that unless they act like a schizophrenic tranny and say nobody plays guilty gear when they’re obviously mad about XX Bridget. Which many do.

>>716012183
>whether it be the superiority of +R
This is the actual reason people hate goobers. You play a kusoge with dogshit system mechanics and act superior to everyone playing actually fun games.
You've been hated since X2 came out and you're hated now.

>>716011938
This guy is a genuine newbred schizo that thinks anyone shit talking +R is a tranny or is doing so because of bridget. There'll be multiple people disagreeing with him and not mentioning bridget whatsoever but he will still feel the need talk about bridget in any post of his since he can't fathom shit talking for shit talking sake

>>716012582
>the ONLY reason people make fun of goobers is because Bridget
lol
lmao even

>>716012642
I am sorry if my preference for enjoyable good games has offended you. You can still play strive I don’t mind.

>>715990823 (OP)
3S is

Oh yeah I remember this guy now calling everyone offended

>go to a steakhouse
>there is brisket on the menu
You guys mindbroke me

>>716012713
>he thinks I play gooberslop
lol
lmao even

>>716012780
Man I love giovanna. Fun to fight, fun to watch fight, there's multiple artists dedicated to drawing her alone and there's always a bunch of new art of her weekly.

I wish there were more anime games then arcsysloppa and french sloppa

>>716011757
I guess it's just a matter of algorithms at the end of the day, my twitter timeline (when I still used it) was filled with +r and xrd wanking and posers being exposed at least thrice a month and the last time I saw a bridget pfp say retarded shit was that one complaining about the designs of under night in birth, I've never seen a strive fan actually call it the better game because even strive-onlies would disagree with them kek

>>716012642
The most hilarious part about this is how +Retards will claim they casualized the franchise when they play a game where spending 25 meter lets you win neutral

>>716013351
She lends herself to a boring playstyle which can make her lame to play against/watch but otherwise I agree

>>716013409
I had to intentionally train my algorithm to get it to not show strive posts (which are very weird and unfunny so I clicked not interested every time) but still show +R posts. There aren’t as many of the old gg posers as some say.

>>716013351
She's one of the few rushdown characters I really like fighting, typically other characters are just played by backing up until their move is plus, but Gio actively encourages dashing in and directly doing pressure, she's great

>>716005328
>>716006323
I think strive SUCKS

>>716013702
Hey man good for you.

>>716013748
just kidding I think the game is okay, I just hated what they did to my toons in there
unironically >good game but bad [franchise] game

>>716013983
You can think it sucks and it wouldn't hurt my feelings any brother. I dunno where you're from but where I'm at it's a free country

I admire good KOF players, but at the same time this game made me hate fighting games because in my shithole that was all the arcades had to offer. There were no shooters or puzzles, just fucking machine after machine of fighting games.
It was like stepping into your dream place, with the best games on the planet that made video game consoles look like jokes, but then you discovered that 100% of the games there were fighting games that you didn't like.

>>716013702
I love how crazy Sol looks in that cover, Daisuke's artstyle is amazing, I'm curious on what direction the art of new GG games will take after he retires, each entry had a different aesthetic so I hope they don't repeat the same look that Strive has since it's probably the weakest IMO

>>716013983
Wow only 200 hours? You must have 5k+ hours to form an opinion bro

>>716014238
yeah, his style is immediately recognizable as soon as you glimpse at a drawing of his
he also seemed to have kept the soul going from analog to digital which is not always the case with these boomer jap artists

>>716001875
>>716002810
>>716003025
uppity zoomer typing like a massive fag

>>715990823 (OP)
Nah that's 3rd strike, just because 3rd strike is more known so there's a lot more posers who "love" it

I don't like Strive all that much, as far as modern fighters go I prefer Granblue or KoF XV
But I like May
May is cute and fun to play.

>>715990823 (OP)
Virtua Fighter and Garou were spammed as cred for like 2 decades when no one played them

I don't disagree people flex nuts through all means possible including shit as trivial as what video games they play. I just hate the idea of reflecting players of certain fighting games in a bad light, like shaming them for it. I'm sure to many it doesn't really apply as long as they REALLY play it. But what constitutes as "REALLY" playing? It seems a lot of times you have to have played the game like, TODAY for it to count. Or be willing to play at the drop of a hat with randos. Or grind ranked on a consistent basis. Are past experiences with games not valid, even if they were major time commitments at that point and pursued from a competitive pretense? It just sucks because, like for instance, I love to talk up a game like RBFF2 purely because you don't get to hear about it as often, and it's a good game. But yeah it's been a hot fucking minute since I touched it, I admit. My interest got drawn to the other things, including other fighting games. But I like to play a LOT of games, you know? Try a lot of shit and determine my own taste. That seems to be a departure from the herd mentality that's gripped the FGC as of late and voices like mine are just like, "who the fuck is this guy." Makes taking part in a community like this kinda SUCK. Sometimes.

I just want to say this song sounds cool

>>716016378
The entire soundtrack is pretty fucking good despite how bad the anime is. The VN remake is worse than the shitty anime though. The only fags who would defend the remake or posers and fatecucks. Also Type Lumina is a poser game. Any real player would stick with Actress Again

>>716016687
The remake will depend on far side for me. If it really doesn't have Len I won't be interested enough to read it.

>>715990823 (OP)
>poser
KOF is literally a filter to poser, retarded zoomoid

>>716016935
>Len
It won't. Len is a Kagetsu Tohya character. She technically exist in Tsukihime as that one familiar Arcueid gave to Shiki during her route. If she didn't show up in Arcueid's route there's zero chance she'll show up in the other routes.

>>716017139
But is it poser because they don't REALLY play it? Because they prop it up and say, "heh, I would still play KoF, if it was still sprites like XIII," but never played it before? Is that what makes it posercore? I don't usually care enough about the smell of other people's assholes to care about that shit, so I can't say.

>>715994753
>muh pc
Good.
PC sales are fucking dogshit. Steamqiqes hates KOF.

>>716017247
If she's not best I hope for is a KT remake. I'll probably never read it if it doesn't.

>>715990823 (OP)
No.
Street Fighter, Rev 2 and Skullgirls.
Not a single King of Fighters, AOF or Fatal Fury is "posercore", dumb zoomer.

>>716017357
It may be worth noting that all the PC update did was catch it up with the Switch and PS4 versions, which were already awful and had THAT long to address the issues in them before they got to PC. (and they didn't)

>>716017412
>for is a KT remake
Never going to happen especially with modern Type-Moon.

>>716017524
Likely true. Oh well, Kagetsu Tohya will always be my favorite thing from type moon.

>>715990823 (OP)
i think that is rapidly becoming nu-Street Fighter's crown.

>>716016687
Len is not showing up. I hope Nasu at least keeps his word from this old thing he did: https://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/8996-Tsukihime-Tsuushin-R-Nasu-Kinoko-s-Arcueid-Route-Memo and actually show Miyako in the beginning of the far side routes since it's all about the Tohno family and it's dramas. I wonder if Kouma might also show up since all he gets in the original is a single mention of his family name.
>>716017524
>Never going to happen especially with modern Type-Moon.
and why would it not happen? It's not like the story would stop working if you removed the lazy sex scenes, plus they have so much budget nowadays it would be stupid to not remake the Kiri vs Kouma fight. KT gave a fuckton of lore on the universe of the original Tsukihime, Nasu wouldn't miss this opportunity to infodump about the universe specially now that it's being remade.

>>716018080
You'd need Len for it to be good

I liked playing 13 alongside SF4/UMvC3 when they were still popular on 360
I couldn't get shit done online so my team was just King Beni Shen to flowchart harder than SF4 Ken

>>716018450
XIII was generally well regarded back then, with its main caveat being poor netplay...which to this day they seem unable to remedy. All they had to do was put Code Mystics on it. What, are they too expensive?

>>716018080
If I recall correctly, there was an interview or something where Nasu mentioned that he was embarrassed about his old works which is one of the reasons why he change a lot in the remake. Or at least something along those lines he said. If he didn't want to include Len in Arcueid's route even as a small reference, it's pretty obvious he doesn't want anything to do with Len. Doesn't matter if Kagetsu Tohya provided a bunch of lore since the remake VN is its own thing that Nasu could just easily add new lore and infodump into. We're not getting Len. I'm willing to bet the whole Len teasing in Type Lumina was entirely French Bread's doing. If Len does ever get added, I'm willing to bet her arcade mode will just be a third wall break joke story or maybe claim that this Len is from the original "timeline" and not the remake "timeline" because she doesn't exist in the remake. Or something lame as that.

do you guys get scared the person you want to defeat will retire before you get good enough to beat them

If KoFXIII came out today it'd probably have a bunch of Youtubers saying "I love this game but DON'T BUY IT" (Broski literally made this about Global Match) Common theme with SNK games, isn't it? It's funny seeing people dump in on it mechanically for its meterburn fetish nowadays for not being a good example of KoF, like now it's something the series should be embarrassed of--even though it was well regarded in its closest thing to a heyday. Sometimes I wonder if SNK fans are chronic self-denigrators. Like yeah, THEY like the game, but what do they matter, y'know? OTHER people shouldn't buy it, even though they did, and play it.

Is it poser to have back pain /v/ros?

>>716019270
Not really, I'm more concerned about myself and getting good enough until I'm satisfied with knowing the ins and outs of my character and the game.
Having a rival or wanting to beat a particular person is nice and all. But I find myself enjoying more learning the game and my character.

>>716018913
SNK is just really retarded, is the reason. I can see their Saudi masters not being too keen on them going back to an older game and improving it either.

>>715990823 (OP)
Hey it had Robert Garcia. And any King of Fighters that let's me play as Robert or Shingo is one of the best King of Fighters in my book. And personally I appreciated the redrawn sprites. They were fun, I never expected them to stick to them like glue or anything.

>>716019818
That depends of course
Do you REALLY have back pain, or do you just say you do to pretend you are older than you actually are and gain cred in the fighting game scene?

>>716019973
I don't know about retarded, but disenfranchised probably fits based on what I remember seeing posted about their equivalent of LinkedIn in Japan. Apparently a lot of people there are just in for the paycheck and don't put much passion in their work anymore. But you know what's funny?
https://youtu.be/P5WKdAiL3Bc?si=LUt53wYsd_STlCXs
This might be the best version of this theme with the most love poured into it in a while. At least as good as his SF5 theme. Between this and how he's likely to turn out, and how Terry and Mai were handled in SF6, it's like what we need is a CvS3 where everybody works on the OPPOSITE company's characters, and shows what it's like for people to genuinely think they're cool to work on them, instead of committed solely to a paycheck. .

>>715990823 (OP)
Americans playing SNK games in general are posers. Kof13 is is just an extra layer because of le pixel graphics and epic trial mode.

>>716020251
>CvS3 where everybody works on the OPPOSITE company's characters
As much as I hate Dix (and I really fucking hate Dix) it really is kind of amazing how Terry and Mai were treated compared to their own characters.
Terry has a botched face and he looks all kinds of retarded, but gameplay wise and in terms of all the little details that went into making him, it really does feel like they cared. Mai in turn is literally the only good looking character in that game, and her design, costumes and moveset are also soulful.

>>716020412
Mai's handling in 6 EXTRAPLOATES on her theming as a character as established by SNK. It's actually kind of incredible. Her using seduction as a combat tool and how that's depicted in things like her level 3, her selection screen--SNK's own games don't even go to that length. It's awesome. And Terry going as far as to differ between how his power geyser animates between his classic or MotW outfits, to differentiate how they animated in the old games and in the newer gen, is amazing. The fact they even included a move to mimic a lane switch pivot is wild, or the fact they included his power charge and his EX/Real Bout slide kick at the same time.

>>716020225
no

majinobama is right...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqwKmnpdf0Q

>KOF XIII
>Posercore
I'm sorry what? What exactly makes it so, outside of some Mexican and Koren dudes playing well at it? I haven't even thought about XIII since I bought it on sale like almost a decade ago.

>>716022685
I don't think he is. I know that he's trying to get at the effectiveness of marketing and opportunity that Strive had that older GG games did not, and that certainly played a role. But Strive's simplifications absolutely had a major impact on the game's success. There's a reason why Street Fighter and Tekken are the dominant franchises and its not just because of brand recognition. They're generally easier games than their contemporaries and always have been. That isn't to say there isn't high skill gameplay to be found in them, just that they aren't ever considered at the top of difficulty for fighters, and both of them (especially Tekken) tend to have very low skill floors.
Most people are scrubs. This genre is already difficult enough for them as is and they will naturally gravitate towards games that ease the barriers to entry and *always* have. It isn't about "oh I have to grind for months on end to be competitive", its the feeling that you have to grind a shit ton just to reach the skill floor of a game.
Strive's skill floor is Tekken-level. You can reach it in a day of playing. That absolutely matters.

>>716023307
Even if you don't understand what posercore actually means just look at these posts to understand
>>715992897
>>716002378
>>716008390

>>716015449
this

>>716023516
OKAY. So we're arriving at a point where we might actually further the discourse around this topic instead of just circlejerking each other as the epic bros who REALLY play this genre. So, the playtime is only 2 hours, that means it refers to them not REALLY playing the game, right? Not people who DO play that particular game?

>>716023702
Are you fucking stupid? What the hell did you think posercore meant?

>>716024020
Well see, since we have the definitions for stupidity inverted to where it's apparently NOT the burden of the person who used the term to actually explain what the fuck they meant in a nebulous context, it's actually YOUR job to qualify how the term is used, because it could apply to a variety of contexts! Crazy how that works to anyone with half a fucking braincell. So, could you elaborate instead of jerking your fictional e-cock over how special you are over the "posers"?

>>716023516
Yes, I know what it means to be a poser (I'm more than qualified to know what it means) I just don't know why KOF XIII got labeled as such
>Buying a game because of influencer hype or osmosis of the series through external sources but never actually bothering to play it

Well yeah, but its not exactly like the newest GG where a bunch of transsexuals are buying and getting into it because it has anandrogynous boy as some sort of vehicle for their self insert purposes.

>>716024162
Strive is like if someone said they love metal but they meant j pop

>>716023406
ok but can we not have easy fighting games anymore

>>716024162
It's funny because even /v/ is mad inclusive when it comes to anime fighting games, letting shitters who can't stop doing IAD HS and lose for it be a part of the community (I know from experience from playing those people) but then turns around and tries to gatekeep people for so much as claiming to play SNK as you can see from this very thread

>>716024137
Anyone with a high school level education could figure out that posercore obviously means game that people do not play but often love talking about or pretending to play both from the word and from the 1st 10 posts in this thread. You are retarded.
>>716024162
Because it has a reputation of a large amount of posters that don't actually play it sucking it's nuts. That is it. It is a very simple thing to understand.

>>716024532
Aaaand HOW do you prove they don't play it? By cropping your own player record and projecting onto others as whatever /v/irgin who made that retarded MSpaint edit you're treating as gospel probably did? You are the fucking retard here.

>>716024407
I think the window is starting to shift. SF and Tekken were already low skill floor games so lowering it even further (and crashing the skill ceiling along with it) hasn't been received super positively, especially for Tekken.
For Guilty Gear...lol. Lmao even. Its skill floor and ceiling is more in line with SF and Tekken and its the most successful game Arcsys has ever made outside of DBFZ. You're never getting another hardcore anime game from them again, though I can see them making whatever a Strive sequel ends up being a *little* more difficult.

>>716024673
"Its" meaning Strive's skill floor and ceiling being more in line with SF and Tekken, of course.

>>715999921
>Creating Graphics With Soul
Is there where the sovl meme comes from?

>>716024517
>tries to gatekeep people for so much as claiming to play SNK
No one has done this. There is zero gatekeeping done and it is only kofXIII among the snk games that has been called a poser game along with many others such as GG Xrd, 3rd strike and darkstalkers.

Like it really boils down to
>I claim to play game
>LOL NOBODY PLAYS THAT BECAUSE I DIDN'T
like... yeah. You're a fucking retard dude. People play games that you don't.

>>716024162
Hybrid Theory is better than anything Revocation ever did

>>716024784
You are very stubborn and implying that it's simply because the ones calling the games posercore didn't play them as if there wasn't years worth of time that resulted in these game building the reputation of being poser infested due to retards on the internet who would flat out admit to not actually playing the games but LOVING to watch them and various numerical evidence in the case of Xrd.

Idk why anyone would consider xx/blazblue posercore over melty which is probably top 1 with teens.

Not like I give a shit anymore anyway I switched to gunz.

>>716026453
blazblue, melty and +R have regular lobbies.

>>716026453
Dude Melty is the least poser tier anime fighter in existence. No one is pretending to play or like niche ass Melty, if they say they play or like that shit they most DEFINITELY are playing it. Also no one calls blazblue a poser game just GG.

>>716025905
The ones calling them posercore think they’re posercore because they don’t play them

>>716027427
Blazblue was mentioned ITT and is the historic example for being joked on.
Ive seen tons that played about 5 minutes of og melty and have pfps for it so idk what you expect after Neco Arc, hows that niche?

Does someone want to play some KOF?
98 Fightcade or 9UMFE/02UM/13GM/15 Steam

>>716027510
Did you even bother reading the post? It's not that, it's because of YEARS of posers outing themselves with these games like the retards who go
>DUDE KOFXIII IS THE BEST WHY DOESN'T SNK MAKE MORE LIKE THAT
solely because of how the game is animated despite it looking and playing like shit compared to any other 2d kof, and shit like pic related as already mentioned in the thread
>>716028031
Man blazblue was called a poser game ONCE before you and then people immediately corrected that guy with another post then saying it's nuplayers are retarded(they are) not calling it a poser game.

>>716028337
is she pooping?

>>716028734
no, he's just pulling his underwear off

>>716028356
Which is why I said "why would anyone", it comes up without fail since release which is funny but it deserves a bit better in 2025

>>716010326
Does the graph has any relation with the ranking?
Because Bridget is far lower than Chipp, and Chipp is like the fourth least popular character.

>>716023307
it's a snk game so it's posercore by default,everyone will talk about how cool they are but refuse to play it,people were like this still even back when 13 was a lot more relevant

>>716030742
I like SNK characters
But I hate Shinkiro

>>716030742
Play KOF with me right fucking now or shut up

>>716030930
whats wrong with shinkiro? is it the clooney face?
>>716030994
sure which one? i dont get to play these games with people much so ill always be kind of shit at them

>>716031045
Do you own 15 on Steam? if not I'll do 98 fightcade

>>716031071
i own pretty much every kof game on steam but i haven't had the time to install kof 15 on my new hard drive, i have 98umfe and kof02um good to go though

>>716031045
>is it the clooney face?
Mostly, yes.
To be fair to him though, he has gotten significantly better, it's just his 90's art that I really don't like.

>>716031145
aight 02UM
steam://joinlobby/222440/109775242731849696/76561198020312532

How come smashfags are the only ones not berating their autists for playing their old games like melee and 64? Are FGCfags that consoomerists that they always need to move to the newest thing.

>>716031360
There are decent scenes for some older games but I'd be lying if I said this wasn't a consistent and concerning theme I've seen among other fighting game players

>>716031360
>Are FGCfags that consoomerists that they always need to move to the newest thing.
Sadly yes. Modern dlc model demands that every month you "get hyped" for the new characted who plays like the other 25+ in the game. Sagat? He's a mix character now. Ken? He will juggle you into the corner with EX into EX. Enjoy

>>716031280
how do you use the copy link thing again it's been a while

>>716031557
Paste it in a web browser, there should be a prompt to "open with Steam"

>>716031280
post another link i guess

>>716031589
thanks

>>716031659
try this one steam://joinlobby/222440/109775242732233823/76561198020312532

>>715990823 (OP)
Anything I like because I'm a casual that only plays single player

ggs fren
ty for the games, ur Mary nice

>>716031749
thanks for the 10 matches i gotta head out to do something now

>>716033397
i haven't play 02 in a good long while and honestly fighting games in general

>>715994753
>I guess SNK believed porting SVC Chaos was more important.
it was, more people grew up on svc chaos and kof13 almost killed snk so why would they care?

>>715994753
>months
Try over a year
PS4 version's a piece of shit too, I entered the side bracket at Frosty Faustings 2024 and it crashed during a tournament set(offline bracket).
>>716033478
Yeah I have a lotta love for KOF even with SNK being fuckin morons
Can't say I'm too bummed about CotW underperforming
>>716035019
SNK is absurdly out of touch with its community and the greater FGC

>>716035440
>Can't say I'm too bummed about CotW underperforming
i am honestly because it was really the only fighting game i was looking forward to and wanted to put time into, kind of the same thing with kof 15, so im really demoralized now honestly

>>716035606
where are you geographically? If you're NA you can still get plenty of games in both

>>716035679
i live in NA but when it comes to fighting games i generally like playing more with my friends i know i can find matches easy enough at least in fatal fury,not too sure about kof 15 but i've hardly had a chance to play it with people since launch so im hardly even at what i would call "decent" despite still being bad in most fighting games

>>716035831
What do your friends play?
if you got any friends on playstation KOF15 is free on PS+ this month, tell em to try it
otherwise keep your eye on steam sales and pester them when the price drops, 15 usually goes on sale for $12 which is super worth it

In KOF I only trust the opinion of South Asians, East Asians and South Americans. I don't trust biased US/EU players

>>716035912
my friends pretty much play everything else that isn't snk related and none of them have any interest in ever playing any of their games

>>716000084
Nitpicky bullshit

>>716000084
The Athena changes were definitely made to have her resemble the old design from the 80's. I prefer the slightly leaner look of the male characters though.

>>716036281
The game makes callbacks to psych soldier and ikari warriors

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjWgSo3J8rQ

FAYAH
FAYAH
SAIKO SORUJA

>>715990823 (OP)