>get Bioshock 1, 2 and Infinite (3?) free in Epic
>start with Infinite
>it's pretty boring and I'm only 15 min in
I don't want to play another game where 85% of gameplay is walking, looking for collectibles and money.
Are the other 2 as boring as this one or better?

Play 2 for fun
Play 1 for story
Play 3 for shooting

>>716002219
Then, why aren't the 1 and 3 fun to play if they have good story (1) and good shooting (3)?
Why 2 is funnier than 1 and 3?

1 is fun and a great game all around. Has soul
Infinite is dogshit tryhard AAA slop for normies
I never played 2, no one did

>>716002541
Kid this isn't a debate, you asked a question. He answered
Shut your casual ass up already and play the god damn games.
Fucking retard.

>>716002541
You get to play as a big daddy in 2 and save your daughter
I suppose in a sense it's like fallout 4 but good?

>>716002586
Played 2 a few years ago, really exceeded my expectations given how little anyone gave a shit at the time
I'd recommend it over Infinite and insist on playing it after 1

>>716002586
Fuck off 2 is great

>>716002586
Retard.

>>716002049 (OP)
3 is probably the most interesting in terms of shitting the screen full with diversions. 1 and 2 are pure hallway sims.

The point is, you'll probably find the other games boring as fuck.

>>716002049 (OP)
>get Bioshock 1, 2 and Infinite (3?) free in Epic
>start with Infinite
Why would you do this?

ywnh Booker daddy...

>>716002586
2 was fine, what are you talking about?

>>716003301
What are you smoking? 1 and 2 are way better than Infinite and has way better setting.

>>716002891
Wasnt 2 made by the people who made Gone Home. I aint playing that tranny shit

>>716003369
Because I had no idea which one is better and since I like the late XIX century aesthetics of Infinite, I thought why not.

>>716002696
>>716002743
Is there anyway to join the "bad guys" in any of the games?

>>716003301
>3 is probably the most interesting in terms of shitting the screen full with diversions
what the fuck kind of sentence is this? if you're trying to say 3 has the best environments it doesn't

>>716003702
Yeah, just press Y when you find a little sister

>>716003835
>what the fuck kind of sentence is this?
Take it at face value. I think the first two games are better but they offer less spectacle as a whole.
OP is bored of Infinite so my guess is he won't like the other games as well.

>>716002049 (OP)
Infinite was actually supposed to be good but Levine decided to remake it entirely at some point in the development and turn it into complete dogshit like what the fuck man. I hope somebody someday leak one of the early builds.

>>716004634
He wanted to compete with... COD

He's a fucking idiot but he had no words short to explain his hubris.

>>716002049 (OP)
Bioshock Infinite sucks, it's literally just Call of Duty in the sky but they decided to call it Bioshock for marketing. The first 20 minutes or so are just walk and talk but then it becomes your generic xbox 360 shootery game. Bioshock 1 and 2 are much more fun and are successors to 90s shooters.

Bioshock is System Shock except watered down

>>716002049 (OP)
You could just play the System Shock games and get what Bioshock was going for but better.

>>716005271
God damn it Carlos

>>716005283
You really think OP's zoomzoom ass is going to like System Shock?

>>716005472
Fair point.

>>716005165
>successors to 90s shooters.
Could you give more details? Sounds cool.

>>716005283
>>716005472
I couldn't play it back then, why was so good?
If you know the lore, I will be glad to know about it.

>>716002541
In 2, different ammo types are actually interesting, plasmid/weapon upgrades add new abilities, research now encourages using a wide variety of attacks, hacking happens real-time with risk/reward mechanics and there's more enemy variety.

>>716005908
It's basically System Shock but underwater and kinda dumbed down for consoles. Map layouts are more like mazes rather than linear corridors but not really confusing. You can carry like 8 different weapons and some have different ammo types you can switch between, and you can upgrade them all. Big Daddies are cool mini boss fights that can happen anywhere but you choose when to confront them so you can at least prepare. Bioshock 2 is more of the same but with some refinements like dual wielding and the drill rush always gives a dopamine kick.

When my wife Elizabeth gets involved.

>>716006951
She fucks dogs and kids

Infinite could have been classic but was crippled by the weapon limit. Absolutely braindead design choice.

I just realised Booker looks like idealised version of Levine

they should have turned bioshock infinite into a dating simulator instead of whatever they shat out. Elizabeth single handedly carried that dog shit game.

>>716007151
Yes, and?

>>716002049 (OP)
>game gets praised to shit by (((journos)))
>everyone hates it now
Has there ever been a bigger example of this?

>>716009550
It came out in 2013 when game journos were exceedingly desperate for games to be taken seriously as "art" which to them meant turning games into Hollywood movies.

>>716002586
2's okay but I didn't play it until last year while I played the other two on 360. 1 is great, 2 is solid, 3 is dogshit.

>>716009550
>>716009669
A game can have shit tier generic gameplay but as long as it has some sort of "message" that it beats the player over the head with, journos will cream themselves over it, see picrel

>>716005472
Lmao you're right, they'd bounce off the first locked door or get filtered by the inventory system. "Wait, I need to read logs and manage my cyber modules?" Nah, this generation needs quest markers and emotional companion AIs spoon-feeding lore between setpieces. System Shock ain't a vibe for them, it's homework.

>>716009889
This post reads like it was generated by ChatGPT

>>716002541
ESL moment

>>716009810
Spec Ops The Line gets a pass for being genuinely critical of military operations and the effect their propaganda has. Sure the gameplay wasn't groundbreaking and it was just a linear shooty game but it was still throwing curveballs to keep you much more engaged than other games at the time.

>>716010518
>Spec Ops The Line gets a pass for being genuinely critical of military operations and the effect their propaganda has
While simultaneously getting basic facts about the very thing it's criticizing wrong

>>716010875
Such as?

infinite redpilled me into realizing all reviewers are shills, when i beat the game i thought "wow that was terrible" but every reviewer glazed it. I thought to myself "did i miss something?" but no, just dogshit pseudo-intellectual slop with a cute waifu, though not cute enough to save her game

>>716002049 (OP)
1 is the best one. You can safely pretend 2 and 3 don't exist but 2 has a very tear jerking ending.

>>716010930
The guns, equipment, etc. Your critique of the military loses a lot of impact if it doesn't even look like anything the US military has been involved in beyond surface level similarities. Picrel unironically did WAR BAD better and it's from le heckin military propaganda series.

>>716011162
Fucking kek I knew it was gonna be some /k/ autism about how a gun's firing rate wasn't 100% accurate to real life, thus this fictional game is le dogshit.

>>716011221
You're retarded if you don't think authenticity helps the credibility of a thing making a statement about something in the real world

>>716011343
You're retarded if you think fiction needs to be realistic.

>>716011442
Actually yeah, you're 100% right about that, which makes how it's supposed to be taken seriously as a genuine critique of the things it's criticizing fall flat on it's face. You didn't have to do all the work for me.

>>716011162
I haven't played this one but usually military shooters go for the "yeah sure war is hell but it's only a couple of bad apples that make us look bad, USA still number one moral entity!" Spec Ops literally has you play as a schizo larping as a hero pretending to "fix" the middle east when all he does is destroy their remaining water supply and burn innocents to death because "hey that's just collateral damage right? I'm still doing the right thing here." It's a very sobering point of view coming right off the heels of arguably the most pointless and contrived conflicts the US inserted itself into.

>>716011725
Why does that sound familiar

>>716002049 (OP)
>15 min
Your brain is fried from social media shorts. You won't enjoy anything, let a lone games if you don't let your brain heal from all that self-induced ADD.

Truth is all Bioshock are shit.
The first one is actual worth playing (once)
Infinite is a "woah" story wise but only if you can teleport back to 2013.

>>716004978
>>716004634
must have been a mandate from the publisher to "make it like cod" and to be fair to infinite it's a quality game and solid "cod clone" if that's what you're after

>>716011824
I'm not super familiar with Haze but from what I understand it falls into the "bad apples" or "rogue division" case where some experimental unit fucks shit up. It's meant to be very self contained whereas the root of Spec Ops' conflict lies in the propaganda and evangelization of America's military "heroes." Every soldier wants to be a great hero who kills a bunch of bad guys and is revered for it but no one wants to stop and think how those bad guys consider themselves to be the heroes from their point of view.
To relate this back to OP's post, Bioshock 1 and 2 were seen as smart games for smart gamers at the time of their release because at the very least they questioned and revolved around the idea of uncontained capitalism where morality was cast aside for the sake of some nebulous idea of technological progress that was supposed to make life better somehow. It's a fun what-if in a unique underwater setting. Then Infinite comes along with themes like "what if every time your nose bled that was parallel dimension where another you did something" and other incoherent musings. Like what are you supposed to get from Bioshock Infinite after finishing it? That you should sacrifice yourself for some nonsensical notion that killing yourself in the future would erase a version of you from the past who might become bad in a different timeline and hop into your dimension via a quantum portal?

>>716002049 (OP)
all bioshock games are very barebones in gameplay, they're the texbox definition of movie games

/pol/ was right again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n11P9G6lVwk

>>716012463
Haze is also trying to make a commentary on propaganda and media and false narratives being used to justify invasions but is at least entertaining in how badly it fails at pulling it off

>>716012473
Not really. BS1 and 2 have money and other resource management, upgradable weapons, exploration, hacking, choices that affect the story and which items you get, and the plasmids have different effects including some environmental interaction. Infinite removes pretty much all of those and adds... sprinting? The sky hook is a neat idea in theory but it just gets used for iframes and a special melee when you jump off a rail.

>>716003635
It's far better to just play it in order. Infinite's largely separate from the other two games, so if Infinite's not clicking with you, then Bioshock might.

>>716002049 (OP)
bioshock 2 multiplayer was so underrated nigger

>>716003526
I think the DLC "Minerva's Den" was. I really liked it, even if it was far too hopeful of an ending for the series than I was looking for. But if the culture war shit means that much to you, you're free to just play the base game.