Which game is better? I am asking as someone whos only played dk64 and I only want the opinions of people whos played both 64 and wokenanza.

>>716019345 (OP)
Every single game on the Nintendo 64 is better. This is not hyperbole anymore

>>716019345 (OP)
They're both classics

>>716019345 (OP)
I've only played 64 and it is better

Bananza is better because you're not forced to go to a tag barrel every 15 seconds

>>716019345 (OP)
You'd have to be brain dead or completely nostalgia blind to think 64 is anywhere close to Bananza

Obviously Bananza is better. You damn trolls.

64 is the biggest nostalgiabait game ever. You try going back to that shit and you'll bounce off before you get to the water world

>>716019345 (OP)
SOUL vs soulless

Sell me on DK64 when this is my criticism of Banjo Tooie: >>715832839

>>716019610
I last replayed dk64 3 years ago and thought it was amazing

>>716019345 (OP)
Looks like the people have spoken, OP, and DK64 is the clear winner. Thank you everyone for participating in good faith.

>>716019610
Gloomy Galleon in DK64 is in the running for the worst water level of all time, which is weird beccause I love both Clanker's Cavern and Jolly Roger Lagoon.

>>716019714
Amazing? really? Even if you like the game its nowhere near as good as Rare's other 3d games, let alone Nintendo first party

>>716019345 (OP)
64. Bananza is gay shit for toddlers. Teletubbies version of DK.

>>716019345 (OP)
Bananza by a thousand miles. I love B-K and I like parts of B-T, but DK64 just sucks and has always sucked. I'm not going to pretend Bananza isn't much better just because it isn't my ideal 3D Donkey Kong game.

>>716019345 (OP)
I played 64 probably 25 years ago. I wish the decomp came out, so I can run through it again. I remember loving it, except that Arcade section for the nintendo coin.

>>716020168
Growing up playing DK94 prepared me for that, sucks to suck for the people who didn't

>>716020335
Yeah to be fair, I was 10 year old at the time. That was probably my first exposure to the Arcade game

>>716019345 (OP)
>>716019345 (OP)
The game with the barefoot loli your character sleeps with on-screen is woke.

Rare's Kong who is canonically an incel is not woke. It's amazing the mental gymnastics rarefags have to jump through. New DK can turn Super Saiyan btw, mogging the incel even more.

>>716019709
The problem with DK 64 switching as opposed to Tooie is you're fucking backtracking for 6 different characters instead of just 3. And it's not just for jiggies, it's for fucking everything. Also the benefit of Tooie is you can collect a jiggy as any character, whereas the colored bananas for each kong are greyed out if you're not the right kong you have to immediately go back and switch out every time you see a new set of different colored bananas. If you find a new set of bananas. Rinse and repeat.
>Just collect them all at once as one kong each
Not possible in a lot of cases in the later levels where you need different kongs to perform certain actions to progress forward. Also, if this is your for playthrough you don't know where all the bananas are going to be. People try to use this same argument for Tooie.

>>716019409

>>716019345 (OP)
DK 64
>no wokey kong pulling ugly faces
>no cringe pauline voice acting
>Environments/Levels are much more meticulously designed and have way more charm
>isn't brainrot core slop for toddlers, actually has some challenge
>Collectables actually matter and aren't just EXP that you may aswell skip since it just makes the game too easy

Kill yourself

>>716020514
Dont forget that, on top of that, the level design is way less interesting. Pretty much every level is 'rooms of varying size connected by boring, plain hallways', when we all know the best collectathon level design model is 'big fucking thing in the middle with the rest of the level around it'. Banjo and Mario 64 got this immediately, I don't understand why DK kept insisting on boring ass hallways

>>716020514
That's not the way it works. You just do different runs as different kongs. Nobody's retarded enough to start playing then reset and switch when they see a banana another color, then do it over again, and so forth. Each kong has their own root the bananas guide you towards objectives. It's really that simple.

>>716020468
>pedophile making dishonest idiotic argument.
par for the course.

>>716020830
>we all know the best collectathon level design model is 'big fucking thing in the middle with the rest of the level around it'. Banjo and Mario 64 got this immediately
oh. youre that type of retard.
let me ask you, what do you think of tooies levels not giving you an easy braindead landmark to help your tony brain actually remember levels and where to go?

>>716020984
Less memorable than BK's levels, that's for sure.

>>716020984
everyone agrees Tooie is objectly worse, its sparse and devoid of the quality art direction and design of banjo 1.

>>716019345 (OP)
I haven't played Bananza and feel no real desire to pick it up, but that doesn't mean that I can't say it's better than DK64.

>>716021178
I liked tooie more even if I agree some areas are too big for the sake of it

>>716020984
>what do you think of tooie's levels not having a big fun level design

I think that it makes for less fun levels, yes

>>716021178
The only real problem with Tooie is that it runsat like 8 fucking FPS half the time.

>>716019409
Yeah I don't think I would take a single game on the Switch over 64

Dk64 > Bananza
OOT > botw
Mm > Totk
Mario 64 > Odyssey
Pokemon Stadium > Scarlet and Violet
Mario Kart 64 > Mk world
Mario Party 1-3 > Jamboree
Star Fox 64 > Miyamoto gave up on Star Fox since hes a bitch

The only cool levels in DK64 are Jungle Japes, Frantic Factory, and Creepy Castle. The rest are fucking dogshit, especially Gloomy Galleon and Crystal Caves, holy shit those levels are so fucking ASS. I'd rather play a dozen Grunty Industries than either of those pieces of shit.

>>716019474
Counterpoint: DK64 has way better sound effects for the collectibles

>>716020514
You only backrack in the first two levels, after that the only instance is that one banana where Lanky races the rabbit. Everything else can be done on the first visit.

dk64 is the better game because it has an objectively better soundtrack

I'm probably one of the few genuine fans of DK64 amd replay it every year but there is a lot wrong with it. Can't believe we've come full circle where we're getting ironic DK64 apologists.

>>716021580
Everybody gets in a tizzy about the backtracking in Tooie but I like how the worlds are connected. Getting teasers of other worlds from quick little visits here and there was really awesome the first time I was playing Tooie.

>>716021621
the game play should be more important, but it does have better music. you're right about that.

DK64 was the beginning of those impersonal 'shrines' that every collectathon uses nowadays with the fucking minigame barrels.

>>716019409
You're right, it's nostalgia blindness

Go and play beaver bother and tell me which game is better.

>>716021759
That design philosophy goes all the way back to the original DKC with the bonus stages.

>>716021793
64

When Donkey Kong 64 is announced to be on Nintendo Switch Online during the next direct, I bet that you ALL will play it on that.

>>716020746
oh yeah also the music
DK 64 had much better music
Most of the tracks in Bananza are shit.

>>716021621
They should've just hired Wise again for Bananza, Tropical Freeze has a god tier soundtrack.

>>716021826
Even those bonus stages took place in the same type of stage you found the barrel on. In 64, you get teleported to the barrel dimension, making every minigame feel like it's just been randomly put there, much like modern 'shrines' in Odyssey or BotW

>>716021851
Yeah of course, why wouldn't I? Playing it on my N64 is a pain these days.

>>716021943
You have a Wii U as well, retard.

Bananza because there’s not 20,000,000 mini-games and platforming is more fun.

>>716021983
My switch N64 controller doesn't work on that.

>>716021983
You're shit out of luck if you didn't buy it already since the shop is dead.

>>716019610
wtf is water world? zoomer who only watches people stream games thinks he knows everything but can't even name mario 64 levels lmao

>>716022054
Just hack it, it's pretty straight forward.

>>716022083
We're talking about DK64 here lil bro

>>716022028
>and platforming is more fun.
lmao. any game that allows you to climb near everywhere, cannot have good platforming

Sexy Kong

>>716019345 (OP)
How long until Donkey Kong gets crossed over with the Despicable Me minions?

DK’s face is so ugly and annoying in the new game

80% of all 'unlocks' in DK64 are just 'stand next to the interactable and press button'. What a way to make getting new moves feel boring and underwhelming. I'll never forget getting a new move potion for Donkey Kong, and unlocking the power of...pulling a lever. lmao

>>716021907
DK jungle beat didn't have wise music either and it's the same studio

>>716022261
Don't give those fuckers at Sloplumination any fucking ideas.

>>716022515
It will happen someday.

>>716022553
Don't you fucking dare. For god's sakes, please, anon. I beg of you.

>>716019345 (OP)
I LOVE 64, but Bananza is absolutely better. It's up for game of the decade, honestly.

>>716020746
>actually has some challenge
lmao

>>716022192
What an impressively stupid post.

Let me guess: It's "woke" because it has a Black main character?

>>716022874
By that logic 64 is woker since it has more black main characters. They even rap!

>>716019345 (OP)
dk64
>I refuse to play slopnanza

>>716023227
You don't own a switch 2, so wouldn't be able to play it anyway

>>716023843
Why would anyone buy a console with two games on it?

>>716022801
more so than troonanza

>>716023942
Now let's see the dragon fight with Chunky in DK64

>>716019409
t. Snoy

>>716023921
So I was right lol

>>716023942
...is there a problem with this gif?

>>716023942
Don't mistake challenge with tedium. DK64 is tedious and poorly designed/balanced

>>716023942
Eric, you aren't making any sense.
Also, why did you out yourself as Eric today?
>>715971769

>>716023843
there is zero fucking reason that the game couldn't have been on switch 1 as well

One is an actual game
The other is a glorified tech demo

>>716019345 (OP)
Bananza doesn't make you go back and forth the fucking barrel to collect colored bananas, so it wins.

Tropical Freeze>DKC2>Bananza>DK '94>Jungle Beat>DKC1>Returns>DKC3>>>>DK64. Every game listed here except 64 is good btw.

if you love dk64, try playing it with the sound muted and see if you still like it

>>716021432
>Mario Kart 64 > Mk world
Boomers will literally say anything lmao

>>716024284
You clearly haven't played it. It would absolutely suffer on switch 1

>>716024350
>The other is a glorified tech demo
But enough about Rare garbage.

>>716024194
hmm I don't know retard, this is the entire boss fight with the largest of the games 3 main Kong villains.. being punched to death in 4 seconds.
He attacks once in the entire fight and it's so telegraphed you literally can't get hit by it unless you're retarded. even so pauline STILL tells you to 'look out'.
this shit is an insulting joke for toddlers.

>>716024490
What were you expecting? Malenia to show up?

>>716021432
>DK64 > Bananza
The thing is the rest of your list is fairly sensible (even if I disagree with a couple parts) but right off the bat you show that you're mega retarded. DK64 is so ass. One of the most overhyped games I've ever played.

>>716024490
You shouldn't be insulting people, Eric.

>>716024284
i dunno the perfomance on the switch 2 is pretty bad as is

>>716024271
kill yourself skitzo spammer. don't ever (you) with your mentally ill ramblings again.

>>716022717
lol

>>716024284
The switch 1 would fucking explode trying to run Bananza lmfao you clearly have not played it.

>>716024490
Yeah Eric, shut up and die in a fire you cunt.

>>716024875
Fuck off Darren you Nintendog

>>716024996
Eric, why do you hate Super Mario Sunshine?

>>716019345 (OP)
Did they really need to make DK look like a fucking sex maniac eyeing his next victim?

>>716025037
No one hates the best 3d Mario game

>>716024374
hes right about the rest of his post

>>716025121
I think there might be a sequel.

>>716024850
the visuals are downgraded from odyssey. it's just that the games not made properly.
you can tell from the atrocious pop-in with no fade or effect and the fact things load in too late after the camera has already started displaying the environment.
This game was just shit out with a lower standard of care. if optimized correctly this would easily run on switch 1.
>but the terrain is super expensive
nope it's low poly shit and modifying vertex positions has no cost at all. the gamecube was doing this shit.
in fact destroying the outer layer of levels actually decreases the total number of vertex points. the only digging that would increase the vertex count is digging lots of tunnels under ground but you don't see those tunnels unless you're in them so most of the time they can be culled from GPU drawing.
Stuff like the materials that create paths when you throw them also increase vertex counts but these have been in other games it's up to the devs to limit these.

all the slowdown in this game is due to just general programming incompetence. not some amazing system that only the switch 2 can run.

>>716019864
we get it, you get your opinions from youtube

>>716026419

We get it, you gobble Nintendo's Jewish cock

>>716019345 (OP)
Bananza. DK 64 formula was good for that period but bosses are not harder. Gameplay just is collect a ton of bananas and backtrack with these different monkeys and hit a boss some times with the tnt that spawns in your feet and fighting against the lag and the weird movement mechanics. If they remade dk64 with a good engine today all of you faggots would say they made the game for babies when the game never worked properly...

>>716019345 (OP)
Bananza by far. It's not just 64 is a flawed game, Bananza has much higher highs. The gameplay is much better, the level design too. The points where 64 is better would be the music and difficulty.

>>716021432
Shoutout to Pokemon Stadium, that game still looks amazing to this day.

>>716019345 (OP)
DK is going through his pink jacket phase.

>>716021432
I wanted to say "bullshit" but you're correct. This also extends to Kirby 64, fuck Star allies. And F zero X is clearly better than 99, what a joke.

>>716021432
All true except Odyssey >>> 64 (64 is still great though).

>>716026264
>it's just vertex position
Jesus Christ shut up. The dynamic lightning is also an issue when you deal with modifying the whole level at any point, which is one issue among others.
And imagine trying to attack the Odyssey team on optimization when they made a 60 FPS AAA 3D platformer with giant levels on Switch 1, no one else was able to do that.

Meanwhile,
>was made by one guy
>could run on an Xbox 360 or an ipad
>cost $28, could be even cheaper if you bought it during the beta
>is still getting active support
Lmao

>>716026419
You called a subpar game amazing, not me

>>716027173
>you like that apple, huh?
>well check out this ORANGE
>bet you feel dumb now!

>>716027605
>he can't follow the conversation chain about Bananza's optimization

>>716019345 (OP)
DK64 is a genuinely great game, I have never understood the hate it gets. Many huge levels with a lot of variety and depth compared to shallow open world gameplay that is so common these days (they make huge maps where the gameplay is dreadfully shallow just so they can sell the tagline of "open world"). It has an unlockable cast of characters each with their own unique powers that change how you play, which in my opinion is an outstanding feature that you don't see often, even in modern games. Many different and cool bosses. Charming art, music, graphics. It would have defined the generation if it had not been released in the same generation as a bunch of other incredible all-time greatest games. Now without even comparing it to that great game, just from the clips I have seen of Bananza it seems really uninteresting to play and the graphics are a pain to look at. But maybe I'm wrong, I haven't played it.

>>716024374
mk world is dogshit doebeit

>>716027675
Is this chatgpt? Seriously no offense, ive just never heard anybody this positive about 64, let alone semi specific about what actually makes it good. I mean you werent THAT specific hence gpt, but its more than the average standard on here somehow.

>>716027854
It's obviously AI

>>716027665
nta but he was only pretending to be retarded

>>716019345 (OP)
>left: N64 game
>right: Xbox game

>>716024284
Bananza unironically feels more next-gen than anything I've played so far on the PS5

>>716028104
Pong is more next-gen than any PS5 game, because there are no PS5 games. This isn't a useful metric.

>>716019409
bananza might be the exception, but to be fair I havent played dk64 in like 25 years. not sure if online critics convinced me 64 is bad or that it really is. I say this as someone who thinks open world is inherently bad, but bananza mitigates this by having it be more like sonics open zones.

>>716026874
no shit they did a decent job with odyssey. they did a shit fucking job here.
and no dynamic lighting is dynamic lighting. it doesn't matter if you modify the terrain because the lighting was going to be calculated every frame anyway.

>>716019345 (OP)
>wokenanza
it doesn't seem like you want a genuine opinion

>>716019345 (OP)
DK64 by far

where i can pirate switch games now?

>>716019345 (OP)
I haven't played DK64 yet even though I have a Nintendo 64 and the RAM Expansion Pack, I just never bothered to get it back then. I'll play it when they drop it on Switch Online but I'm not really looking forward to it, I recently played Tooie on it and I found it mostly dreadful. All the splitting up of Banjo and Kazooie on dedicated panels to add even more backtracking to a game already full of it was the stupidest thing Rare could've done to add even more moves, and DK64 does that with five characters so I can't imagine it being any more fun.

Bananza is GOATed.

haven't played 64 yet but I've been really enjoying the shit out of bananza

>>716025394
No, just stating "MM > TOTK" confidently doesn't mean you're correct.

>>716019345 (OP)
Bananza

>DKC2>TF>DKC1>Bananza>DKC3>Returns>64>JB

>>716039460
Swap 1 and 2.
Returns and Jungle Beat over 3.

>>716021432
I really want to know who the fuck prefers Pokemon Stadium 1 to an actual Pokemon game.

>>716036896
64's levels aren't quite as big as Tooie's, but yeah, it's a similar kind of tedium.

>>716019345 (OP)
DK Bananza is easily the best Donkey Kong game

Why does DK64 make redditors seethe so much?

>>716021432
Paper Mario 64 > Origami King
Golf 64 > Super Rush (new UI and golf mechanics are trash)

>>716021580
>You only backrack in the first two levels
lol. lmao
>implying