Thread 716019470

Will they ever be topped?

>>716019470 (OP)
already have

>>716019519
/thread

>>716019519
it lacks the soul of Bethesda's games

As the most dogshit games of all time? Yeah, Starfield already did that.

>>716019893
Soul? You mean a generic, railroaded narrative and endless spamming of The Brotherhood of Steel and Supermutants.

>>716020127
The DC metro being an actual way to traverse the map outside of that one main story connection is honestly more impressive world design than anything New Vegas offers. Sure, it has the sewers (unfinished) and that railway tunnel as an alternative entrance to Nellis, but the main world map being two corridors separated by the Black Mountain ridge is unacceptable

>>716019470 (OP)
>putting morrowind anywhere near FO4
Quality, handcrafted bait

if you haven't grown out of bethesda slop at this point you are a retard

>>716020391
>soulless ejit

>>716019893
TES may have soul, but Bethesda's Fallout games do not have soul.

>>716019470 (OP)
4 is garbage and doesn't belong on there

>>716020391
bethesda are bad at making vidya but they're the only ones making this particular flavor of WRPG.
Outer Worlds was a failed attempt, and so was Avowed.
Bloodlines 2 seems to have given up.
eurojank like Technomancer tends to be much more threadbare.
what else is there?

>>716019470 (OP)
>>716019519
Already has been topped

Fallout 3 was a massive disappointment except for normies who gush over open world gameplay, just like Skyrim was. Took everything that Fallout 1 and 2 built and reduce it to ubiquitous memes absent of any world building.

>>716020882
their foundation formula (large role-playing open world with immersive sim elements) is so fucking strong they have been shitting the bed for two decades straight and it is still the best and most mechanically interesting wrpg formula. CD projekt are just polish kojimbos, absolutely disinterested in actually making living worlds and are content with them just being the backdrop for their epic scenes and plotlines. Larian is too mechanics-focused to make an actual open-world game. Obsidian has no desire to put immerise sim elements in their stuff.

>>716019519
>"open world game"
>no random encounters
>enemies never respawn

It doesn't benefit from being open world in any way. It should have just been hub-based like VTMB, which have the advantage of cutting out the boring walks, and the smaller scale might have enabled Obsidian to craft some decent-looking locations instead of the bland shit we were given. NV has a decent script but it's boring in its other aspects.

>>716021069
Why did you post the most compelling character from that game, as if it supports your point? The Wasteland Survival Guide quest is still the most branching and complex quest Bethesda ever made, for some darn reason. Also, I really like her weirdness and her mirror-mosaic speech. With a little correction here and there, she could actually fit as a Black Isle Fallout npc

>>716020329
You just summed up everything wrong with people who like the Bethesda Fallout games. Zero concern for narrative freedom or meaningful choices.All you care about is hopping around a stupid map.

>>716019470 (OP)
Haha my good friend i see you have omitted Oblivion for some reason, now im sure it just slipped your mind XD but could you go ahead and remake this and add oblivion to it? Im sure you just forgot it?

>>716021673
???
FO1 is literally hopping from one location on the map to the other. The only choice you have is whether you do the cathedral or the base first
FO2 has the slideshows at the end depending on your choices in sidequests, but could all be skipped by going to navarro -> san fran -> oil rig, so all that narrative freedom and meaningful choices mean jackshit when the actual progress happens via map hopping

>>716021312
>no random encounters
>enemies never respawn
what

>>716021958
That anon is only half right
There are actual random encounters, but their number is pretty low in comparison to bethesda's or the variety of fo1 and 2
The wild animals like geckos and deathclaws and stuff are actually hand-placed in the game world by the environment designers and won't respawn after being killed. You can kill every wild animal in the open world and never encounter any for the rest of your playthrough. Only the ncr and legion death squads break this pattern.

>>716021872
Which is precisely why New Vegas is the best one and has the most devoted following. It set a gold standard for open world games, but nothing has even come close since, because gamers are morons who prefer linear, railroaded slop that lets you run around vast vistas with nothing meaningful in them.

>>716019519
fpbp

>>716022541
If you were to ask a 100 normies and 100 working game developers what is the golden standard for open world games you will get 200 replies saying "Skyrim"
If you were to ask 100 autistic retards what is the golden standard for open world games you will get maybe one or two "Skyrim"s and about 25 or so "New Vegas"s
I am not even telling a joke here, I've never heard anyone praise New Vegas for its open world outside of this place, which hardly constitutes for standard-setting criteria
I've seen people talk about fucking drainpipes in here (videogames?) so I take any local opinion with a kilogram of salt

>>716019470 (OP)
>anon posts the three best games
based as fuck

>>716021570
>the most branching and complex quest Bethesda ever made
it's good but cmon anon. Oblivion murder house has more branches and variables

F3 is good but not untouchable by any means.
F4 is ass.
Haven't played Morrowind.

>>716019470 (OP)
Fallout 4 and >>716019519 are shit for including the cancer known as (((bisexual))) representation, so they've been topped already.
Avoid any video game series with at least one entry featuring that garbage.

>>716025370
Thank you for giving me a list of recommendations, anon!

>>716019470 (OP)
Play another game.
>>716019519
Go back to r*ddit.

>>716025342
Uh sweetie why are you posting on this shitty forum instead of playing video games?? Play Morrowind NOW.

>>716025441
But I did not.

>>716025370
Great list of kinos, thanks anon

>>716020983
The meta shit in that game is cancerous

>>716019470 (OP)
For me it VtmB, Underrail, and Cyberpunk 2077

Fallout has never been good
>what if mad max but shitty isoRPG
>what if first game but pop culture references
>what if shitty game but 3D and with a green filter over everything
>what if third game but the filter was orange
>what if shitty game but actually a looter shooter

>>716019470 (OP)
Will you ever top any women?

>>716019470 (OP)
>fallout 4
>"will they ever be topped?"
yes, op, but you will always bottom

>>716026027
Those games suck.

It's incredible to me Bethesda tricked people into thinking F3 was good just by releasing two sequels that were so shit it makes everything else look good comparatively.

>>716020983
good morning

>>716020349
Thanks, i can now leave this thread

>>716026081
>meta shit
such as?
>>716028331
Nah I'm fully white and born in Appalachia

>>716022501
I love NV but what random enconuters are there? I don't count the death squads because they're very conditional

>>716019470 (OP)
I'm sure shittier games than these will be released one day