Why is it so much more fun than dogshit Mario 64?

You needed a slower game with more dumbed down controls. People who love Mario 64 take full advantage of the crazy shit he can do.

>>716030917 (OP)
because you are a little bit retarded

>Raresnoys getting their shit kicked in by DK Bananza
>QUICK! MAKE ANOTHER NINTENDO SEETHING THREAD BUT WITH BANJO!
Holy shit that's pathetic.

>>716030917 (OP)
Mario 64 has a fucking terrible camera and pads out the game making you replay levels over and over. Plus Banjo is just a much more charming and funny game

Mario 64 had a big impact on the genre, but 90% of the people who claim it's still fun today are just lying to themselves

Rare just always knew how to run circles around Nintendo from a technical standpoint. The early version of this game was so good it scared the shit out of Miyamoto into delaying OoT for an entire year.

>>716031135
if the level doesn't require me to do it it's not worth doing

>FUCK NINTENDO!

>RARE WAS BETTER!

>>716030917 (OP)
it's pretty amazing rare was able to make a platformer where literally nothing felt fun...movement was clunky and floaty and unsatisfying. i would just play around with the movement in mario 64 trying to do cool stuff because it feels good to control mario

>>716031702
>i would just play around with the movement in mario 64 trying to do cool stuff because it feels good to control mario
You say that as if that's not quite literally the ONLY good thing about Mario 64...

>>716031485
Shut up shrineschizo.

>>716031485
>Rare just always knew how to run circles around Nintendo from a technical standpoint.
Oh shut the fuck up, snoy.

>an almost 30 years old game plays and runs better than a modern game
How?

Humba Wumba>Mumbo Jumbo.

>>716031437
>big impact on the genre

lmao

>Rare btfo chinkoids so hard that their design of dk lasted all the way till now

>>716031437
So 10% are actually having fun and are right.
>>716034367
Banjo Kazooie was made by a team of passionate game developers which simply do not exist today.

>>716030917 (OP)
the 1 thing i didnt like about mario 64 was having to restart every level after every star, but it does make sense for some stars because of the way the level changes

Mario 64 aged better than Banjo and that's not even up for debate. Banjo was great for the time because you were a kid with no money and not a huge library of games to choose from and it padded the hell out of the game time being a collectathon. You could debate Banjo was better bang for your buck at that time but unless you're a diehard fan of the collectathon genre, Mario 64 proved over time it was the better GAME

>>716037830
Nah, I just beat (well played Mario 64 and dropped it) both this year, Banjo Kazooie is far better. Better level design, better gamefeel, better camera, less annoying physics, doesn't constantly boot you out after each star, better artstyle, better humor.

>>716037830
>Mario 64 proved over time it was the better GAME
Mario 64 is a decent tech demo, absolute dogshit as a game. Never have I played a more anti-fun than Mario 64. Just an utterly miserable, tedious slog all the way through.

>>716031307
>Raresnoys

Incredible. And I thought OoTsnoy was wild.

why is kazooie such a bitch

>>716038337
To hide her insecurities.

>>716038284
Eric is to blame for the proliferation of "_____"snoy namecalling.

>>716039968
Eric is so powerful.

>>716034367
>runs better than a modern game
Lol, come on now

>>716037830
Sorry m8, but you're blinded by nostalgia.
Mario 64 was a huge deal near launch and that feeling is still in your mind. Even on og hardware on a crt the controls feel unresponsive, like you are fighting mario all the time and most of its stars really arent fun to do.
Banjo kazooie I really played for the first time last year and I had a BLAST, the levels were way more fun and original and the game just had a much better flow because you didnt get shat out with every jiggy.

Banjo tooie is complete and utter cancer tho

>Dkvine has entered the chat

>>716030917 (OP)
Banjo was never good

>>716030917 (OP)
BK might be good, but it's no SM64.

>>716042846
>it's no SM64.
It's not a colossal piece of shit? Good

>>716043134
It's the best Super Mario game easily. If you disagree you're retarded.

>>716043362
I prefer Galaxy but SM64 is still a fun time.
Both are leagues better compared to the slop that's Banjo-Kazooie.

>>716037830
Only thing Mario does better than Banjo is the fluidity of the 3D movement.

>>716043362
No, it's legitimately terrible, a total slog to play, and its only appeal is exclusively as an autistic toolbox for speedtroons and romhacks.
>absolutely atrocious camera constantly getting stuck on terrain, spazzing out, facing the wrong direction, refusing to go where you want it to
>slippery and inconsistent physics, especially underwater, snow, or on slopes. Not to mention Mario turns like a fucking boat
>2D Mario's momentum and physics work in a 2D environment where you always have a perfect view and perspective of the action; it's significantly worse in a 3D environment where you are constantly fighting the camera and there are fundamental limitations to perspective/depth perception
>these momentum and physics are especially egregious when the movement is relative to aforementioned awful automatic camera that refuses to go where you want
>constantly boots you out after every star and makes you retread each stage a half dozen times all the way from the beginning of the stage with a tiny stupid piecemeal change
>a dozen frivolous jumps with dial a combo system for platforming is just extra abstraction bullshit that further separates the game from feeling like a natural extension of self
>overall level/enemy/hazard design are extremely basic and boring, mainly as a result of the extremely open-ended movement combined with the dogshit camera
>constant easter egg hunt for random bullshit grows old very quick
It feels like a glorified fucking tech demo for 3D movement. As a game, it is just awful.

>>716043826
Galaxy is good, but when it comes to platforming-platforming Super Mario 64 is still on the throne. It don't get much better than that moveset and freedom to experiment in sandbox levels. Galaxy is a huge sampler of different types of challenges that aren't inherently platforming, and different set paths where you do things with inverted gravity, I can't in good faith put it above SM64.

>>716043930
>No, it's legitimately terrible
I should stop reading here. The only thing I can ever acknowledge is that the camera might get in the way. Other than that we're looking at pretty much a perfect video game, I mean it.

>constantly boots you out after every star
the 3D Mario is a 3D Mario, and water is wet

I tried playing this in Rare Replay and just couldn't do it. The camera is dogshit, the controls can be finicky, the whimsical Mario music is terrible, and the humor is aimed at children.

>>716034367
I don't think you've played banjo tooie on original hardware.

>>716043930
All of these are skill issues except this:
>constant easter egg hunt for random bullshit grows old very quick
This isn't even Mario 64, it literally describes Banjo Kazooie. Next time don't use chatgpt for your shitposts, retard.

>>716044263
>All of these are skill issues except this:
No, they aren't, at all. You're just a fucking stupid retard who literally thinks NOTHING else in a platformer matters except how the movement feels.

Camera, level design, boss design, hazard design, artstyle, physics, pacing, padding, etc. All those areas in Mario 64 are dogshit, but it doesn't matter because all you care about is
>MUH MOVEMENT!!!
>MUH SPEEDRUNNING!!
like every other autistic Mario 64tard

>>716044263
That's clearly not AI generated, are you retarded perchance?

>>716044263
>giant list of issues with the game
>uuuuhhhhhh.... uuuhhhhh... LE SKILL ISSUE
The mark of a dumbfuck who knows he's been ousted

>>716044543
>NOTHING else in a platformer matters except how the movement feels
it's not wrong

>>716044903
>The mark of a dumbfuck who knows he's been ousted
saying filtered when someone mentions Sunshine sucks shit through a straw

>>716030917 (OP)
Because you're into collectathon slop.

>>716045746
>t. speedtroon autist on HRT

They're both fantastic games that are doing different things
>Mario 64 is way more about precision character control and platforming
>Banjo Kazooie is way more about thoroughly exploring the levels and completing small chellnges for the collectibles
Faggots who keep trying to force this "rivalry" between them should kill themselves immediately.

>>716045992
Mario 64 is collectathon slop though, it's just more of a miserable slog.

>>716046113
>Faggots who keep trying to force this "rivalry" between them should kill themselves immediately.
I prefer banjo to mario but yes, I agree with this
retards with too much free time and nothing going on in their lives

>>716045798
uh oh, filtered

>>716046346
NTA but Sunshine sucks dick. The jetpack completely ruins the gameplay, and that's not even getting into blue coin horseshit.
>but my FLUDDless levels
Ok cool only 1`out of every 6 Sprites is fun, really ringing endorsement.

>>716046454
>doesn't know how to utilize the water gun
>muh blue coins
fil.
tered.

>>716046124
Nah, Banjoo is way worse. In Mario 64 you're only collecting coins which isn't really needed to complete the game anyway.

>>716046553
A star per world is tied to collecting 100 coins (which also reset when you die just like the notes in BK) and yet BK gets shit on for this while Mario gets a free pass.

>>716046637
Because you don't need to, unless you're going for 120 stars autism. You can complete the game with as low as 70.

>>716031526
brainlet

>Nintendo had the chance to buy Rareware and make them a central part of their company for game development

>Diddy Kong Racing
>Perfect Dark
>Banjo Kazooie
>Banjo Tooie
>GoldenEye 007
>Conker's Bad Fur Day
>Jet Force Gemini
>Donkey Kong 64
>Killer Instinct 1 & 2

>instead they sold their stake to Microsoft in 2002
Biggest fucking fumble since that imfamous fucking Playstation meeting

>>716047241
And Rare's subsequent output proved Nintendo right

>>716047481
>after the company was sold to Microsoft it became shit
it's well known that a bunch of employees quit when they were sold off

>>716047481
Viva Pinata was Rare's best game though.