>Genre designed to be as unfair as possible in order to get as much money as possible.

That's how Gacha works

>>716046536 (OP)
and boomers called arcades "the golden age of gaming" hahahaha

>>716046536 (OP)
In Japan no one uses continues because it is shamefurr
Coincidentally arcades survived there

If you mindlessly feed it with quarters and try to pay2win your core beliefs about gaming are broken.

>>716046728
This
American niggerfaggots never learned how to play arcade games and subsequently flocked to their homegrown quarter muncher midway slop like Mortal Kombat as a result. This misconception has survived to this day because Americans are retarded and don't know how to learn new things.

Games that are too unfair drive players away and, in the long run, make less money than fairer games. That's why arcades in Japan in the 1980s were responsible for so much evolution in gaming, to the point that Japan is still ahead today in several genres and concepts.
It was the most aggressive model possible for trying to make money from games. They had to be graphically appealing, they had to create a big spectacle, they had to have addictive gameplay, they had to be challenging but not unfair (in the first 3 minutes), they had to offer a complete experience that left people satisfied even if they played for less than 10 minutes.

>>716046791
>hating MK
what a gigafaggot

>>716046536 (OP)
That's why arcades died. They only exist as "Barcades" now mostly to give people something fun to do while they drink. And they no longer eat quarters, its all free play as long as you pay the cover charge to get in or are buying drinks

>>716046536 (OP)
>Genre designed to be as casual as possible in order to get as much money as possible.

>>716046578
>>716046598
That's because Gacha is the extension of arcade game autism.

>>716046990
>That's why arcades died. They only exist as "Barcades" now mostly to give people something fun to do while they drink.
In America they always served this function. Atari is on record saying their first cabinet was a flop because it didn't appeal to drunk people and then they recalibrated and found success
>>716046791
Who needs american games anyway. Jap arcade is still alive

>>716046728
Wouldn't you need to continue if you want to learn the game before doing 1cc attempts?

>>716047284
Fact Check:

>>716047371
Pure vanta brimstone.

>>716046536 (OP)
shmups, until touhou saved them

>>716047462
>touhou
>saving anything
I'll look forward to the day that some actually competent developer saves Touhou from being a bunch of games which literally have no stage design, no environment, no unique enemies where everything is just a fairy that arbitrarily has different attacks for no reasons, etc.

>>716047541
Don't reply to bait man

>>716047371
nta, they occupy different roles, dailies in games are stuff i do early morning when i'm still waking up and usually don't take too much time, arcade games are midafternoon/evening games that i play actively and focus on

>>716047313
You can. Personally I like it to happen organically through practice. It's a waste of time to some but these games are all under an hour anyway, the ones I start from square 1 on aren't usually longer than 30 minutes.

>>716046990
Arcades died because people lost interest in video games a LONG time ago. Modern electronic entertainment is very different from the games people used to play at arcades. When video game producers are simulating clouds, ray tracing lighting, or capturing facial expressions from Hollywood actors to make an interactive experience more immersive, you have to rethink and decide if what is being done today is still the same nature of the products from the 1990s and 2000s in arcades.
You can't put GTA or Red Dead Redemption or Counter Strike or Eutro Truck or Factorio or Football Manager in an arcade cabinet where people go to play for 5 minutes. That's not how modern games work anymore. And the games that do work that way won't have enough people interested in playing them.
So... arcades died because interest in classic video games died. Just as people don't call Flight Simulator a "video game", but rather a "flight simulator", we really shouldn't, if we want to be more accurate, call Red Dead Redemption 2 a video game.

>>716047541
yeah cave already made touhou gachaslop

>>716047660
I play arcade games for about an hour a day during the week, right after my workout. It's a routine I'm very fond of, been doing it for years

>>716046536 (OP)
you can beat Metal Slug one on one life
I would agree on the other metal slugs tho

Arcade games are the truest gaming filters only some shmups were utter bullshit most were manageable on one coin

>>716046536 (OP)
Beat 'em ups were the quarter thieves. It gave players a sense of progress until suddenly shit started killing you in two hits, then in order to progress you had to feed cash into the fucking machine.

Any beat 'em up that causes you to lose health when you're not taking damage and/or has unavoidable damage is designed to steal your quarters. It's Double Dragon's fault, it got so popular but people also got so good at it they could practically beat it on 25c, so they had to step in and create artificial difficulty for new games.

I spent 20 pounds in a metal slug arcade machine one night in 1999

>>716047853
Based take

>>716046536 (OP)
it's actually fair unlike modern games. games having a fail state and a punishment tied to it is completely normal. modern games are the weird ones where you cant really lose. even the so called hardcore games like souls give you infinite tries.

>>716047853
flight simulator is a video game you dork. its on xbox and steam. it uses directx like any other video game. gran turismo is more of a simulator than flight simulator is.

>>716047853
So basically an evolution from board game/sports design to ttrpg and escape rooms designs?

>>716047284
a degradation you mean where the money is actually the main focus and the game is utterly trash. with arcades you got games at a better performance than at home consoles as well, so it was worth it

KEEP GAMBLIN- PLAYING GACHA

>>716046791
This early into the thread and we already have slurs lmao calm down

>>716049476
That's quite disturbing actually.

>>716046703
Literally nobody does that you fucking retard. Golden age of gaming is almost univerally undersood as the PC games released between the end of the '90's up to the early 2010's.

>>716047284
The roguewhatever subgenre has arcade blood flowing through it. Specifically the 1cc side of things. You got 1 chance to go for your best or you have to start over. They're often notoriously hard and many of them are score attack as well.
There are different games that appeal to different elements of arcade games, like rhythm games, fightan games, and creditfeeding, but they're all under the same roof.

each coin op game as to compete with every coin op game it's lined up with. that's the only thing which stopped them from being true pieces of shit

>>716046536 (OP)
zoomies will never experience the fun of pic related. The one in my arcade was mounted on some kind of flight sim chassis so it could actually pitch and roll.

>>716049476
boomers right after they sell their 3rd house for million dollars be like

>>716046791
Uh oh. The retarded brown thirdie is having another melty.

>>716046703
No we called it fun outside the house

>>716046791
I've spent a lot of time in arcades here in Burgerstan. Worked at one for a year. I actually don't even understand the mindset of most arcade goers.

>I will NOT read the instructions on the cabinet.
>I will NOT watch the tutorial.
>*smashes buttons, flails light gun around*
>doesn't seem to connected to the game in anyway
>continue
>continue
>continue
>continue
>continue
>"Man these places are such a RIPOFF!"

Like what was your plan here exactly?

30 year old franchise, SONY best seller, the only exclusive left... This is how it dies...

>>716046536 (OP)
Skill issue tax

>>716046536 (OP)
Zoomies will never understand

>>716046536 (OP)
>unfair
>1cc

I wa always a shutin so I never played arcades

Checkmate normalfags

>>716046536 (OP)
I'll take it over as boring as possible ie MMO/gacha.

>>716046990
There were the old tabletop arcade machines at bars for ages, the ones where the game is built into the table and the top is the screen.

My dad was telling me of a space invaders one he played at his local bar and figured out if you unplugged and plugged the machine back in super fast it would enter debug mode and you could have infite credits

>>716046536 (OP)
>Eventually git gud enough as to beat the game on a single quarter
>People gather around to watch you play

>>716049721
n

>>716047961
you can complete them but you have to play optimal (boring)

>>716052761
>i want the ferrari which i will immediately crash into a wall
meanwhile just play a couple times a week and you'll get 100k+

>>716053762
this, me in japan watching people 1cc shmumps

>>716046536 (OP)
Not a problem if you're actually good at games

>>716046791
it doesn't help that american arcade operators are scumbags. Arcade cabinets have tons of settings like extra lives, infinite lives for a minute on your first credit so you can learn how to play the game, adjusting score values for an extra life, etc. But American operators set everything to quarter muncher so they can scam as much money out of people as possible. Crane games in Japan are actually skill based while in the USA they're set to autodrop until x amount of credits are put in the machine.

Can I just play pinball?

>>716051934
This isn't your money you arrogant ,entitled little shit!!
It's theirs.
They worked for it their whole life and they can do with it what they want.

If you want your own do what they did:
pull yourself up by your jockstrap ,walk into an office ,grab the man there by the genitals and give them a firm handshake AND GET A JOB.

>>716047783
I know you can, but I was wondering how that worked for japs if they only wanted to put one coin in.
Beating a game would take a lot of attempts when you don't get to practice the harder stages.

>>716054396
>Crane games in Japan are actually skill based
Of fuck off, i saw enough GCCX episodes to know cranes there are just as bullshit as they are here.

>>716047313
think what is lost as console gaming took over and instant gratification is that people don't study the game
1cc should be test how far you can get and you learn from mistakes, or watching others play to learn
in some genres each credit would be a chance to test/learn something

>>716055317
In the west that kind of culture simply never caught on, so if anything console gaming actually was the first time mutts were dealing with limited attempts and sparse checkpoints/password systems.

>>716047313
you can put in 3 quarters and play the cab with those continues. like who came up with this idea that you have to put in credits until you beat the game? they're meant to be fun for half an hour and then you go to another cabinet or leave.

>>716055823
>like who came up with this idea that you have to put in credits until you beat the game?
If the goal is to get a 1cc eventually, it's actually a good idea to play the entire thing with continues so you can keep practicing difficult stages.

>>716052651
They don't play games regularly. If there wasn't an arcade, they'd just go somewhere else to do something else expecting instant gratification.

>>716056176
imo setting a limit to continues is better. like in my example using 3 continues until you beat the game in 3 continues. and then you start working that number down. it's not a one day project unless you have lots of money to burn.

>>716053762
>If you git gud enuf to beat the game without paying you inadvertently become a marketing element to encourage other players to put enough quarters in to get on your level
It's genius really. Arcades were a meritocracy.

>>716046536 (OP)
When i was a kid we had cfw xbox cabinets, you got 8-10 min per coin
About 1 hour and half per dollar with the exchange rate at the time