Thread 716058784 - /v/ [Archived: 166 hours ago]

Anonymous
7/21/2025, 5:25:52 PM No.716058784
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I'm tired of people pretending this isn't the best game by FromSoft
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 5:26:30 PM No.716058826
>>716058784 (OP)
Only until Duskbloods.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 5:27:24 PM No.716058894
>>716058784 (OP)
Tied with DS1. Sekiro has the best combat and bosses and DS1 has the best exploration between bosses.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 5:32:33 PM No.716059292
>>716058784 (OP)
better than elden ring? i don't think so. close second tho
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 5:33:43 PM No.716059391
>>716058784 (OP)
Still the only good parry focused game. Being able to cancel basic attacks to parry or dodge means it avoid the typical Souls and Soulsclone trap of, "Your turn, my turn" where all you can do is wait for long ass combos to finish except for the rare time you get to sneak in a single hit. It also eliminates the parry fishing other games have where you do fewer hits than you would normally because otherwise you get trapped in an attack animation and miss the parry chance. Then add in that parrying builds up to breaking the posture bar and allowing to death blow the enemy means that even when you are defending you are actually on the attack, and again, you avoid the "Your turn, my turn," bullshit that every other game suffers from.

Sekiro is just simply amazing, where the more you learn and get comfortable the faster you can destroy bosses even without having to resort to cheese or exploiting AI loops.
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 5:34:55 PM No.716059497
>>716059292
eldenslop defenders will get what is coming to them one day
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 5:37:26 PM No.716059703
It's a shit action game so who cares.
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 5:41:15 PM No.716059986
>>716059703
>nooo muh build variety aaaah
>onononNONON what do you mean there are no skill points what about player expression AAAHHHHHH
>YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND I CANNOT PLAY A NAMED CHARACTER I MUST BE ABLE TO SELF INSERT
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 5:42:09 PM No.716060059
I'm glad it tore out all the RPG shit and made it an action game instead.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 5:43:08 PM No.716060143
>>716059986
It's a fake action game with half assed Tenchu mechanics thrown in the open with no thought. If you want a better game there's millions of better action games out there to satisfy that. I'm not a rollslopper either.
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 5:43:20 PM No.716060165
>>716059292
Elden Ring succeeded on a grand scale, while Sekiro was laser focused, and perfected everything within its narrow focus. It's ultimately apples to oranges.
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 5:43:31 PM No.716060183
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>>716058784 (OP)
>Pretending
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 5:43:43 PM No.716060201
>>716059497
why do people pretend ER isn't the best from software game? Sure, a lot of normies love it, but it's also objectively their best game
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 5:46:57 PM No.716060435
>>716060165
>while Sekiro was laser focused
My ass. Sekiro was a complete mess and the most underbaked and unbalanced From game of the last 10 years
>>716059391
>Whole game being deflectslop is le good
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 5:47:10 PM No.716060453
>>716060201
I was expecting an evolution of Dark Souls. Instead, I got DaS2 again but set in a boring open world. Bloodborne and Sekiro are straight up better in every way. Sekiro is a phenomenal action game, back when FROM made unique games.
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 5:51:23 PM No.716060753
>>716058784 (OP)
>Most prosthetics are useless
>Most combat arts are useless
>Stealth is shit
>Combat is a rhythm game
I replay Dark Souls, Dark Souls 3, Bloodborne and Elden Ring for thousands of hours each but I don't give the slightest shit about Sekiro
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 5:51:27 PM No.716060757
>>716058784 (OP)
>I'm tired of people pretending this isn't the best game by FromSoft
Becuase you are then directly comparing it to the rest of their games. Sure, it has the best bosses and combat. But the series used to be a RPG focused on exploration and level design. Of which, Sekiro is easily the worst if not among the worst in their catalog at.
>Noooo you can't directly compare it! Sekiro is meant to be its own thing! A pure action gaem!
Ok, then stop comparing them.
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 5:53:55 PM No.716060949
>>716058784 (OP)
Even more streamlined DS3 boss rush, but the combat is fun, the camera is the absolute worst in their games, fighting mobile enemies in building interiors is the worst shit by far and they do it multiple times
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 5:55:41 PM No.716061054
>>716060757
>used to be a RPG focused on exploration and level design
Souls games were never RPGs and only dropped dropped the focus on exploration and level design in shitty games like ER.
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 5:58:17 PM No.716061234
>>716061054
Exploration and level design where shit since DS3, thanks to hallway design and bonfire spam. Sekiro and ER followed suit by adding respawn points right outside of bosses.
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 5:58:19 PM No.716061237
>>716060757
>Sure, it has the best bosses and combat.
Nope
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 5:59:30 PM No.716061339
>>716060757
>Sekiro is bad because it's not what I wanted from it
stay 'tistic
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 5:59:50 PM No.716061371
>>716060435
>was a complete mess and the most underbaked and unbalanced From game of the last 10 years
But enough about Elden Ring.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 6:00:10 PM No.716061397
>>716061339
Sekiro is bad because 90% of the stuff you find is useless
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 6:01:55 PM No.716061531
>>716061234
You can complain about the shit world design but the individual levels like the Undead Settlement, Lothric Castle, Grand Archives, etc are all great.
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 6:03:28 PM No.716061648
>>716061339
On its own it's fine, great even. But you retards insist on directly comparing it to other Soulslikes or Character Action game. Where it lacks and falls behindl both for opposite reasons.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 6:08:10 PM No.716062038
>>716061531
It's both. The individual levels are all terribad and boring thanks to bonfire spam combined with their new pbilosphy of making normal mob encounters easy and "fair" so they can feel justified in moving all challalenge to the boss fights.

Undead Settlements, Lothric Castle, Grand Archives, and the Cathedral of the Deep all embody this boring new philosphy.
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 6:11:14 PM No.716062259
>>716062038
If you level vigor like a beta and facetank sure, exploration is boring and offers no challenge
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 6:14:04 PM No.716062460
>>716062038
None of those levels have bonfire spam.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 6:14:48 PM No.716062517
>>716058784 (OP)
that's not ninja blade
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 6:16:38 PM No.716062661
>>716058784 (OP)
>DeS
Not particularly good. Credit for being the first to do it, and having a coherent story by Miyazaki standards.
>DS1
First playthrough is magical but its painfully sluggish and janky. I've started many playthroughs but only finished one. High highs but some abysmal lows.
>DS2
Lol. Lmao, even.
>BB
Incredible at the time but has many issues and poor design choices. Somewhat troon coded. Being held hostage on PS4 doesn't help.
>DS3
I will always defend it. If you play it the way it wants to be played its consistently fun.
>Sekiro
The best one. No major flaws, kino from start to finish.
>ER
Watered down, derivative, quantity over quality. But I admit I enjoyed the sheer scope of it.
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 6:20:08 PM No.716062927
>>716058784 (OP)
Itโ€™s their second best game after Bloodborne. Sekiro is phenomenal and I believe the setting/exploration are the best of the genre but Nioh 2 tops it as far as combat goes.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 6:28:26 PM No.716063581
>>716062661
how do I play ds3 in a way that is fun?
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 6:37:54 PM No.716064284
>>716060201
making dark souls open world was a mistake
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 6:42:48 PM No.716064678
>>716063581
You have to use a DEX or DEX-leaning weapon, embrace rolling as your primary defensive tool, and try to enjoy that its more of a greatest hits album than a totally original world.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 6:44:36 PM No.716064808
>>716059497
The game already has countless video essays outlining why it's trash. Miyazaki himself said he didn't know why it was successful
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 6:55:14 PM No.716065638
>>716063581
You don't, you deviate from fast attacking weapons or the club and immediatly feel miserable
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 6:55:57 PM No.716065703
The final boss was way too hard
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 6:58:49 PM No.716065941
>>716060753
> I replay Dark Souls, Dark Souls 3, Bloodborne and Elden Ring for thousands of hours each
DAMN! That's badass.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 7:00:52 PM No.716066124
>>716065703
Inner owl was harder, which is weird because i killed him first try when i first fougt him, but the second time around when i replayed the game a year later he ass raped me the hardest out of any boss including inner ishin
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 7:01:37 PM No.716066189
>>716058784 (OP)
It is, we all know deep inside.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 7:02:33 PM No.716066260
>>716062661
>Bloodborne is somewhat troon coded
What does this even mean? lmao
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 7:05:55 PM No.716066537
/v/ only likes this game because you can't easily bullshit yourself through this game by meme builds.
It's the only game soulsfags can still pretend their game is hard.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 7:05:56 PM No.716066538
>>716066260
It means he watched an essay about BB and let it get to his head
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 7:07:22 PM No.716066663
>>716063581
Longsword
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 7:14:41 PM No.716067351
>>716060453
>back when FROM made unique games
yes, in the bygone days of 2019
from is dead
what a shame
such a rotten way to die
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 7:15:56 PM No.716067454
>>716058784 (OP)
i see people say it is almost every day retard
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 7:19:35 PM No.716067760
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It's just a shitty game of Simon Says disguised as an action game.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 7:20:10 PM No.716067798
>>716058784 (OP)
Dog shit exploration and ruins of repeating bosses ruin it. Worse than BB
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 7:23:43 PM No.716068087
>>716060183
Accurate hitboxes?
In MY From Soft game!?!?!?
AIIEEEEEE I'M GOING INSAAAAAAANE
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 7:53:45 PM No.716070641
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>>716058784 (OP)
It's my favorite
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 7:55:19 PM No.716070776
>>716058784 (OP)
I hated every bit of it and played dark souls instead.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 7:58:13 PM No.716071009
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>>716060435
>Sekiro was a complete mess and the most underbaked and unbalanced From game of the last 10 years
In that bizarro universe where you actually are a real woman and not a delusional faggot yeah
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 8:05:20 PM No.716071576
>>716060201
Open world fucking sucks. The catacombs fucking blow, enemy camps fucking blow, by the time you get out of limgrave you realize most of the optional content fucking blows. Getting around sucks too. It's just riding torrent from point A to point B. Rarely is anything interesting going in between. The good part is the legacy dungeons, but there were only 4 good ones. Also there is almost no boss variety, they're all spastic dickheads.
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 8:20:54 PM No.716072793
>>716060201
anytime someone says the word objectively when discussing art it just makes the conversation lose all its steam. Arguably there are objective qualities to art that as a collective humans will gravitate to such as beauty and aesthetics, but at the end of the day something with as many moving parts as Elden Ring when taking into account level design, artstyle, music and writing that are lifelong pursuits in themselves and only few humans will ever reach the status of master, when something like Elden Ring attempts to combine all of those concepts together there is always bound to be dilution of quality. Elden ring is a fine game but bigger doesnt always mean better.
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 8:28:40 PM No.716073402
>>716060143
Sekiro walks the line of having the patented Miyazaki difficulty curve while also being accessible and simple enough so that the average person can learn the combat mechanics of parrying, dodging, item/tools management without a massive time sink and feel they are making progress. It's like that comic where that white dude asks for super hot sauce but the Mexican Goku guy gives him mild sauce instead and the white guy is still happy to think he is a badass
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 8:40:47 PM No.716074343
>>716073402
Frankly the "RPG" aspect of souls games is my least favorite thing about them. I couldn't care less about min/maxing stat numbers, I just want to master the physical mechanics. I like Sekiro for doing away with the excel spreadsheets.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 8:43:53 PM No.716074583
>>716071576
This
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 8:46:40 PM No.716074809
>>716072793
Video games are not art.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 8:49:57 PM No.716075037
>>716058784 (OP)
It's fine. Only shitters hype it up because they can't dodge nor position themselves and need a I WIN button.
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 8:52:02 PM No.716075198
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>>716075037
>It's fine. Only shitters hype it up because they can't dodge nor position themselves and need a I WIN button
what a schizo comment kek
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 8:52:14 PM No.716075219
>>716060201
They get filtered by Tanimura/Miyazaki lvdokino. Just like they were by DS2.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 8:52:43 PM No.716075254
Dark Souls is a Colt Single Action Army.
Sekiro is a Mosin Nagant.
Elden Ring is an AK-47.

These analogies make sense. Do with this information as you will.
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 8:53:32 PM No.716075324
>no builds
>no rpg elements
>no exploration

the weakest fromsoft game by far
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 8:54:02 PM No.716075365
>>716075198
I don't get what's shizo about it. Niggas bitch about the other Souls games not being like Sekiro as if you needed the same abilities to beat them (you dont)
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 8:54:45 PM No.716075430
>>716075254
No. Those analogies are retarded. Just like (you)
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 8:54:50 PM No.716075434
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>>716058784 (OP)
All modern Fromsoft games are masterpieces in their own way.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 8:56:21 PM No.716075537
>>716075254
Dark Souls is the AK47
Sekiro is the Steyr AUG
and Elden Ring, the Enfield L85
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 8:59:58 PM No.716075826
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>>716058784 (OP)
True. Lies of peak is the way
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 9:01:44 PM No.716075969
>>716075826
>peak
The P stands for plagiarism. I'd respect it if it didn't blatantly copy From Software gameplay mechanics.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 9:01:45 PM No.716075970
>>716075826
>gook unreal engine slop
gtfo faggot, how dare you mention this turd in a Sekiro thread.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 9:20:15 PM No.716077259
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Can they make sekiro 2 already please?
I can only play the game and the modded fights so many times.
Do the journey to the divine dragon's birthplace or a new game which iterates on the core gameplay, I don't care, just give me more bosses and chasms.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 9:24:14 PM No.716077528
>>716075324
This.
Sekiro strips out everything good about Souls games.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 9:25:28 PM No.716077643
>>716058784 (OP)
Once I'm done with SMTV, hopefully by the end of this month, I'll start Sekiro in August.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 9:28:39 PM No.716077894
>>716058784 (OP)
I've never pretended that it wasn't because it is. I've been playing it again charmless and with the demon bell and holy fuck every fight is exhilarating.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 9:31:05 PM No.716078063
>>716058784 (OP)
As always, people aren't merely pretending to be retarded.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 9:31:53 PM No.716078131
The main people that hated these games were the faggots that cheesed and used summons in DS or used strategy guides.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 9:35:14 PM No.716078398
>>716075826
I've tried it today and was bored out of my mind. Dropped it shortly after the third boss (flaming bot at the end of the factory level, Fucko or something). It's way too derivative and safe, everything they could replicate - they did and everything they couldn't - they've made worse.
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Anonymous
7/21/2025, 9:46:08 PM No.716079217
the 1v1 fights are amazing but fighting fodder is just annoying
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 9:51:20 PM No.716079624
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hi
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 9:58:43 PM No.716080245
>>716060165
This is bullshit because the double ape fight exists and one of two routes the game has the player fight a mandatory ape fight followed by the mandatory double ape fight followed by the ghost monk followed by the real monk

4 mandatory boss fights in a row that are reused. This is uncharacteristically bad game design. Most of the optional side encounters are trash too like the headless

And I say this as someone who loves Sekiro but
>perfected everything within its narrow focus
Is just so retarded. Also upon extensive replay if it isnโ€™t clear the game is clearly designed around chip damage on block and simply cut out of the base NG experience to pander to low skill retards, thatโ€™s on you. Thatโ€™s why I find that certain individuals tend to glaze Sekiro, itโ€™s extremely easy on NG once you adjust to the system mechanic.

On the first playthrough, the game canโ€™t punish L1 spamming at all, besides sword Saint. Also lightning parry is too easy.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 10:13:12 PM No.716081331
>>716059986
Yeah like 70% of the people just play as a knight anyway. Mages suck cause it's worse melee gameplay and/or overpowered spells.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 10:18:09 PM No.716081712
>>716061397
You can beat the game without items, but all items have uses and some are OP.
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 10:21:33 PM No.716081976
>>716078398
>It's way too derivative
unlike every fromsoft game post 2009 which are all derived from demons souls in one way or another
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 10:23:36 PM No.716082128
>>716059292
I swear every elden ring kek doesnt bring i single reason tmwhy that open world slop is supposed to be the best.
Literally every gold things it has other games do better without its negatives.
>Exploration?
Play DS1
>Bosses/Combat?
Sekiro or DS3
>Quests and characters
Evry game
Anonymous
7/21/2025, 10:25:57 PM No.716082306
>>716061234
Chrckpooints to bosses are great, get a life