We're going to Tau... twice!

still no endgame btw

>>716060343
EDA and ETA

>>716060343

I've quite Warframe like 6 years ago and I can't believe you people are still repeating this dumb meme.

>>716060305 (OP)
im not, they killed my cat while trying to sell a skin thats supposed to be a celebration of the frame.

>>716060305 (OP)
>twice!
What and why?

>>716060343
>muh endgame
just kys at this point

people still play it?

>>716061564
We're getting a cinematic quest around december that sends us back to Tau just after the Old War/during an interlude called "The Old Peace", when the Sentients were our friends. Then sometime during 2026 we're getting a (probably 1999-sized) patch that sends us to present-day Tau.

>>716060926
What did they do to the cat that's so unforgiveable, anon? 1.2k-let here.

>>716061704
More than ever.

Valkyr rework alone proves that the target audience is not people who want a mechanically interesting looter musou, but braindead coomer faggots who spam region chat with their godawful look links and have an onionsface orgasm at the stupid writing. This game is shit.

>>716061749
>We're getting a cinematic quest around december that sends us back to Tau just after the Old War/during an interlude called "The Old Peace", when the Sentients were our friends.
What, like another quest that can be completed in 30 minutes as an introduction for yet another neutral faction to grind standing for? What's gonna be the gimmick for this "area"?

>>716062067
post your game

>>716061749
NTA but they made Valkyr into JUST a generic melee platform and decoupled her invulnerability from hysteria and made it her passive, so hysteria is basically worthless now that you can just hold forward and spam melee to not die as long as there are enemies in screen. Her kit is full of redundancies and her animations/sound design are extremely grating now. Very bad rework but you wouldn’t know that judging by the positive responses of dumbass redditors

>>716060305 (OP)
fuck off Rebecca you stupid whore

>>716061749
Now you need to kill enemies to recharge your valk's auto-revive instead of just being immortal with her 4.
It's the same stupid drama as Nezha's shield, devs are trying to add basic survivability mechanics to make immortal frames less generic and players are crying "but THAT frame is still immortal".

>>716062283
We don't know the details yet. I doubt it'll be that though, since the quest will take place in the Operator's memories, so it wouldn't make sense to grind rep with a faction there. If they do a rep grind, it'll be for current-day Tau.

>>716062067
>>716062686
sounds like shit but let’s be honest she wasn’t exactly interesting before kek. sounds like a pretty cheap sidegrade instead of an actual rework THOUGH

>>716060305 (OP)
Content where, DE shill?
All this hype and nothing new to play

I'm still triggered by the stealth section story mission where you had to play the shit kid, my god it was so fucking shit. Why can't they make more Warframe gameplay and less of the other shit.

>>716062897
let's fucking hope for another Sacrifice-tier kino god damn because I'm tired of grinding rep like

Will they let us breed Adis

>>716062989
i dropped the game when they added the kids

>>716062890
>conditional invincibility that requires resource management and being tied to a mediocre melee weapon
vs
>spam literally any melee weapon to not die while Shieldgating
wow that sounds riveting, retard

>>716061749
>What did they do to the cat that's so unforgiveable, anon? 1.2k-let here.
>old valkyr
her 4 used to provide invincibility for the highest energy drain in the game (15e/s), as long as you maintained a fast paced fight, you could maintain this invincibility with the right mods.
this was balanced. even with massive investment you had to stay active and alert because you had to maintain your energy and avoid sources of death cancelation because the backlash damage from hysteria deactivating would take away your shield gate (sometimes ignoring it outright) and leave you open to enemies (unlike certain other invuln frames, like revenant which is the current top played frame)
the """""problem""""" is that this was a channeled ability. so you just pressed it once and had the invuln as long as you had energy. this was part of her appeal over BETTER invuln frames because you didnt have to micromanage cooldowns.
>new valkyr
her invincibility is now on her passive, after enough kills/hits you gain a death gate. the intent here is that you focus on her high armor instead of invincibility.
problem is that this does not work, health tanks are permanent B-listers that are rarely used in high level content and often fall back to a shieldgate build because health tanking takes too much investment and starts to take from the build for the frame itself.
death gates also fall in the same boat, you just start taking too much damage after a point and cant get your death gate back.
the only way to maintain this death gate is to use a fucking AFK build.
to compensate for worse survivability, the devs gave her more single target damage.
she could already one shot levelcap enemies.

in other words, she's been turned from an unstoppable berserker (her whole appeal and theme, what the devs advertise her ass) to a very stoppable berserker.
>>716062890
>its le... not generic!
fuck off dude, she had what as arguably the fairest invuln in the game.

>>716062067
You can see the exact point this game went to shit and it’s when they started hypersexualizing everything and focusing on the fucking space kid.

>>716062686
>>716062890
I used to main valk and this shit sounds so bad it actually puts me off returning to the game

>>716063437
It’s even worse than it sounds because at the end of the day literally every other melee frame does her job better, including frames that aren’t even melee oriented like Gauss and Wisp. She’s functional sure, but fucking boring and without a niche.

>>716061749
sounds gay.

>>716063718
dont forget that the entirety of her melee platform focus is in her subsumable. you can put that on any other frame and have a BETTER VALKYR from that alone.

>>716063380
Sounds to me like they just made her more accessible, since you don't have to invest so much in resource management? Providing a similar fantasy without you needing to work around her obvious flaws.
Health tanking, especially with a Death Gate, is viable in end-game content. Maybe not level cap, but that's a fraction of the playerbase. They balance around EDA/ETA, not 8 hour long survivals. I've been playing nu-valkyr in steel path survivals and been having a blast with her. Sorry you dislike the changes, anon.

>>716064020
>steel path survival
lmfao literally any frame with a decent melee can do this, are you for real faggot?

>>716061749
>around december

>>716064156
Sounds like Valkyr has finally been buffed to reach the same level as everyone else, instead of being in D tier by herself.

>>716064257
you’re a useless retard

>>716064020
tldr she was meh and shes still meh and no reason to play her over good frames, the rework did very little

>>716064535
That's true of like 90% of the cast. You're supposed to play a frame because you like its playstyle or fantasy, not because it's always the most efficient. There's only one frame in each category that can reach that status.

>>716064192
There's another release in fall.

>>716064020
if you're not doing high level content, the armor she had was just fine for the shitter starchart enemies.

Cool, more locations to goon to my and my friends' frames.

>>716064614
what identity does Valkyr have? She’s the worst melee frame, is it her impotent screeching and obnoxious flashing UI?

>>716064614
what was the point of 'rework' then, when it didnt achieve anything and she will sill remain unplayed other than for new skin

>>716065123
Claws. Rip and tear.

>>716065253
It made that fantasy and playstyle more accessible to be viable in 99% of content. It didn't make her the best frame for that, it just made her able to participate in it. That's what reworks are for, so that you can play a frame you like.
If you're a meta slave, then obviously none of this matters to you.

>>716065123
A big fat ass in a thong.

>>716060305 (OP)
Forumfags and redditdrones are already up in arms against Wispnun being romanceable. I fear that DE in their retardation will go with "people's choice" as in loud minority.

>>716065123
Goonbait, reminder that she had more results than Ember even before her Heirloom was announced.

>>716060305 (OP)
Tenno con?
more like Trenno Cum

>>716061704
larger pop than destiny which just had a major expansion release lmao

>>716065434
except hysteria is now the best in slot for being subsumed you stupid nigger, her passive works better with any melee that has more than your cock length in range. fucking dipshit

>>716065620
>against Wispnun being romanceable
Why?

>>716065778
Ok but what if I didn't subsume over it because I like the claws? Because I want to play a frame whose identity is in the claws, not just get the biggest numbers? Thought about that you fucking overly competitive, number-brained retard faggot? You homos will suck the fun out of anything for yourselves and then complain when you're not catered to. Go die.

>>716060305 (OP)
I like Souldframe
I don't know what the fuck I'm doing or how the progression systems work but I enjoy the combat so far. I wish they didn't have such a hardon for schizo systems in their games

do you still have to pay plat to expand inventory slots? i remember quitting the game because i ran out of frame slots and didnt feel like deleting any of them

>>716065875
Too pretty for WF.

>>716066069
You can get them pretty easily from 1999

>>716065998
>I like Soulframe
I don't know how you can Anon, everything they've shown looks so insanely boring and just makes me glad that Steve has his containment project and doesn't get to mess with the main game anymore. More power to you though, have fun.

>>716060305 (OP)
I've been considering getting back into this game but I haven't played it for nearly a decade. Are you forced to interact with the cringe human-frame faggotry or is it just some optional shit for trannies?

>>716066156
>trannies
>can be a man and can kiss a woman

>>716066069
Yes. 12 plat per 2 weapon slots and 20 plat for a frame slot, I think. Which is easy to get through cracking a few relics if that's all you need.
I personally paypig when I get a 70-75% off plat voucher, which means I buy about 30 bucks worth of plat a year and I always have ~2000 even after buying cosmetics and all the frame slots I could ever want + mods I really don't feel like farming for (fuck you hammer shot).

Anyone who buys plat through Prime Access or undiscounted is getting robbed, but if you take advantage of the sales, the game is insanely generous for the money you put in.

>>716065950
How about DE actually fucking made exalted weapons worth a shit outside of Mesa, how about that you fucking faggot?

>>716062989
>>716063132
Good news, kids are here to stay, getting reworked mechanically AND visually.
The one in the trailer look more like a late teen now & look better than the drifter & protoframes.

>>716066156
They're a syndicate you can rank up with. You don't need to romance any of them if your cold little heart shrivels up at the thought of intimacy like a tranny.

>>716065950
>This frame fills my fantasy of doing X thing so the rework is good
>Except it already did before the rework and it's now objectively worse to the point where there's zero point in doing that so you can't live out that X fantasy
>Umm... why do you have to be such metaslaves? I'm happy that the ability that I like is now only viable in easy mode baby tier content so the rework is good
I'm still waiting for one singular objective argument as to why the rework wasn't shit.

>>716065950
then have ‘fun’ with the worst exalted weapon in the game you stupid casual nigger, you will always be dead weight

>>716060343
And there never will be. DE does not have the talent for such a thing. It's a shame that a lot of the registered losers who play Warframe are of the mind that "it would be impossible" but these are Stockholme syndrome victims making excuses for DE's incompetency.

>>716063380
>b-but muh meta
who cares i've been rocking the same max range Frost for the past 3 or 4 years and it is still the most fun build I've done
it is also able to easily run max lvl content despite the fact that the only form of survivability is augment for Avalanche
warframe is not a hard game your favourite warframe doesn't need to be S tier

>>716066632
I rather take no endgame than retarded raid shit Destiny has.

>>716066745
valkyr's one appeal was killed.
it'd be like if frost had his bubble removed.

>>716066461
>easy mode baby tier content

>>716066745
I could give a fuck about meta. It’s about her offering literally nothing over other melee-focused frames. She doesn’t fucking do anything special lmao. She’s billed as ‘the’ melee frame but there is nothing about her kit that can’t be accomplished elsewhere, by frames that do more than just swing a beat stick. Valkyr has 0 identity.

>>716066461
it made revenant a little more popular which turned reb on a bit.

>>716065950
Can't you just equip Venka Prime and call it a day?
It's not like her rework changed her actual playstyle in an meaningful way.

>>716066950
valkyr's one appeal was killed a long time ago
what was left was an underdone abortion from a time where DE had a great idea to balance ALL channeled abilities by making it's energy drain ramp up overtime
Valkyr looks alright I don't care about tanking I just wanna spin with my big sword and Eternal War build is looking mighty fine now

>>716065620
I've seen plenty of people supporting being able to romance the new nun skin
Warframe is getting two new protoframes, and yes, they're romanceable | Eurogamer.net https://share.google/TSfiuz7icq2aatvtd
And I see nothing that says they won't be dateable. I think the The eunuchs will be drowned out this time.

>>716067320
>I want to play a frame whose identity is in the claws

Who the hell is still playing this game after Steve and the chucklefucks at DE got high off their own farts and fucked the game?
>open world shit no one asked for
>buffing previous underpowered weapons? Nah here is kuva and purple mods which means you have to deal with ESL thirdies in trade chat trying to scam you if you want to use them
>oh hey you know the annoying as fuck faction rep system? Yup we added 30 more instances of that but tied to gay ass grinding mini games in the open world
>want that super cool top tier gun? Better go spend 20 hours fishing or skateboarding retard
>HEY! Are you having fun in a way we dont like? Yeah fuck you nigger your favorite frame is now nerfed to shit
>Ember is too braindead, make her unplayable but then make sayrn do the exact same thing but 10x better for some reason
>archwings? Yup thats gonna be an entire content expansion
>see we can do no wrong since youtubers get millions of views sucking us off!

>>716067871
steve and the chuckefucks fucked off to make a shitty soulslike that literally no one wanted
Reb is actually doing pretty good job with balancing and we've got a lot of QoL updates in recent years

>another 2 hour long quest you forget about in 2 days

>>716067871
well steve fucked off to his own project a few years ago.
we had a few good years with reb but now we've got half of that back again. with the additional problem of
>huh? whats this? people can make any weapon good and able to stomp level cap?
>we'll force you to use weapons and frames you havent put any forma on (or maybe havent even built) for artificial difficulty!

>>716067871
Steve is gone anon.
Not an open world since he left.
Factions are piss-easy to grind because you can find tokens in the missions that give you a buttload of rep. Even if you don't use them, it won't take more than 3 runs of a NORMAL mission with some additional condition to fill your daily rep.
Nobody gives a shit about the riven market, and Kuva is handed out by the truckload now.
Empyrean (railjack/archwing) is relatively abandoned for now. They did make the infested lich confrontation have a railjack section, but it's noticeably shorter than the others.
Game's good now.

>Warframe has endgame now!
>look inside
>it’s exclusively randomized loadout schlock

>>716068250
>Not an open world since he left.
he made Duviri?

>>716068274
The endgame is reaching mastery 30 (and Legendary 5). That's it. Getting stable enough loadouts and routine that you can go farm whatever you need for a constant treadmill of gear.
By the time you're done with that, go play another game if you're not having fun. You'll have gotten your money's worth.

I actually really enjoyed the idea of Railjack and was sad to see it nerfed, reduced to a taxi for Corpus missions, and then ultimately abandoned. Their original vision of it being a link between starchart missions was very cool, and very obviously beyond their capabilities. Oh well.

>>716068368
duviri was promised by steve so the devs had to push it through.

>>716068368
Yeah, and he liked it so much he's making a new game that's basically Duviri drifter gameplay, but that's the whole game.
They actually just introduced a new mini-duviri thing that still has the randomized loadout but lets you use your warframes all throughout, and still gives you the Pathos Clamp rewards.

>>716068426
Same. Maybe one day they'll tie it together, but there are clearly other priorities right now.

>>716068465
during the devstream about it they said "you get to use your gear!" but never bothered to clarify that it'd still be randomized.
many people were pissed about that.

>>716068560
Yeah, I kinda phoned it in and didn't get all the rewards during the event. Still wasn't a fan, still was a bore, but compared to actually doing Duviri, I'll take it any day of the week, and I'm glad that if I ever need Pathos Clamps I can get them this way instead of having to grind that borefest.

>>716066915
Nah, I think the raids in Destiny are actually really good. But you need some genuine talent as a game dev to pull it off. I am pretty sure DE fired anyone who was ever responsible for making Warframe's gameplay good a long time ago as all the updates they've added to the game since 2017 have been highly questionable.

>>716068426
I hate a thing and the fact that you were forced into it for the Scarlet event. I want nothing to do with anything That's not specifically my Warframe. I don't want to fly a stupid ship, or use any kind of vehicle that's anything more than an optional Go to device. You can have your ships for something separate, as long as I don't have to play.

>>716068426
my railjack is the fastest ship in the quadrant
its the only fun to be had with railjack but speed maxing is stupid fun, when people bail out to go do an objective i usually just tell them to watch this and fill the screen with phoenix fire

>>716068986
They really are not unless you are twitch head with hundred viewers ready to populate your raid instantly. It doesn't help that bungie are absolutely fucking retarded with matchmaking and purposefully designed bosses to be nigh impossible to do without voicecomms but still.

>>716060305 (OP)
Were they not teasing going to the tau sector for like 7 years now.
I stopped playing a while ago

Did they ever finish those orb fights?

>>716060343
End game is alt+f4, remove game from drive and make your own game.

>>716070356
This is actually sound advice. I stopped playing Warframe in May and I’m the happiest I’ve been in years. Daily grinders, never again.

>>716063393
>the fucking space kid.
Words cannot describe how dissapointed I was when they really doubled down the fucking space kid shit. I much preferred the original interpretation as a sort of sentient light that could loop between all these created frames. But no, they keep pushing the stupid fucking kids more and more in your face.

>>716070328
The third orb mother still sleeps peacefully.
She's pretty consistently memed about though, so if and when they revisit Fortuna, she'll definitely get something.

>>716069703
Yeah you actually have to communicate with your teammates if you want to kill a lot of these bosses. The only exception is when the raids are older and you can comfortably rely on everyone knowing what they're supposed to be doing.

I would not mind it if there were some bosses in Warframe that required us to talk to other tenno, but that's me.

Last time I played this game it was when fortuna dropped. I remember it being dogshit and hate how fucking grindy everything in the game was. I really hate the retarded turns the story took. You're not cool robots, but actually teenagers piloting them. Fucking retarded.

>>716070501
Every time i come back to WF i stay for less and less time. Last time it was just a week. Shit is too stale. I don't even feel like grinding new base frames as i know it will be waste of time and resources (like potatoes) to spend on them when they will have prime version someday in future. We really need universal loadouts across base/prime/umbra frames so reactor would be used only one across all variants.

>>716070750
There is communicating, and then there is requiring voicecomms as everything is happening in 10s intervals and failing mechani is insta ipe. I also fucking hate how most destiny fights have very little to do with actual shooting shit (nevermind that there is like one fight were immortality of guardians is even mechanically used) and more about autistic split second positioning and collective jump the rope.

I won't argue that it is possible to make fun raid like activity in shooter, but i will argue that Destiny is not it.

>>716070861
>just a week
Last time I reinstalled WF (which was ~5 years ago) I ALT+F4d and uninstalled the game halfway through my first mission lmao
That was after a 2 year break IIRC and after a few minutes this weird dread just set in as I realized it's obviously the same fucking game still.

>>716071134
I generally liked the raids in Destiny, but we can agree to disagree on that. The raids and the Trials of Osiris were the best parts of Destiny to me.

>>716070725
what if she goes nuclear because narmer's taken over and we have to put her down before she flattens the place entirely and fucks everything

This game may as well have Denuvo. You can't pirate it.

>>716071656
it's free...

>>716060305 (OP)
Do you get to fight the huge dude in the background?

>>716060305 (OP)
Multiplayer games are shit and they people who play them are shit.

>>716071656
>Denuvo
Pretty sure Fitgirl figured out how to beat it.

>>716067623
>a frame whose identity is in the claws
But that's Garuda.
Valkyr's identity is being a cat and a torture victim (and occasionally BDSM).

Can this slop be emulated on Android?

>>716072515
port is coming soon
this year or next I assume

>>716072515
It's coming to Android in fall of this year. Get a Backbone One and you'll be good to go.

>>716066915
Endgame doesn't mean raids and DE actually do try to make raid bosses but the encounters end up being dogwater. DE just doesn't know how to design endgame for activities ironic since the whole game right now is collecting shit but there isn't even a collection aspect to
>Hunting for pets (needs rework)
>Fishing
>Mineral extraction
>Capturing enemies
Any diligent studio would have worked these into regular missions you could even intentionally put the tiles with this content adjacent to the extract tile if you're so lazy about finding a better way to do it. But there's no grand collection to chase for these activities they just collect dust under the pile of wasted concepts and generic rep junk box grinds.

can we just get more mechs

>>716067093
>I could give a fuck about meta. It’s about her offering literally nothing over other melee-focused frames. She doesn’t fucking do anything special lmao.
her 1 done in hysteria to gain height has a cool animation

>>716074039
Considering how none of the post-war vehicles have mastery ranks (just loads of plat-only cosmetics), probably never.
I guess DE gave up on them (and vehicles with their own mods in general) after people complained about The New War's quest requirements.

>>716075261
People only complained because New War’s quest requirements are fucking pointless. You use a Railjack for like five minutes and a Necramech for even less time than that, and enemy levels are so low that you don’t even need mods for either. That whole quest was dogshit, DESU. New War, more like New Bore.

>>716061749
>What did they do to the cat that's so unforgiveable, anon? 1.2k-let here.
Pablo being a dumb fuck killing the 2 things that gave valkyr an identity. Because it wasn't one of his favorites like nova valkyr is even more worthless now than ever before.

Hey metafags, how's Titania doing these days? She's my favorite.

>>716075413
>>716075261
wasn't new war also that faggy "LOL YOU GOTTA AGREE TO PLAY IT" quest
man, rebby being put in charge was the worst thing to happen to warframe
i'm still mad you can't use necras in regular quest, even though infinite-ammo crewmen and archguns are A-okay for some reason
>>716075593
still just a meme

post becas tits

>>716075593
Yeah and I believe you because Titania is actually unique and interesting and does something no other frame can. Nice attempt you stupid dipshit.

>>716076465
What?

>>716075593
Mount thermal sunder on her and cheese relic opening exterminations

>>716076548
>I know what will get them good!
>I’ll shitpost about the fastest frame in the game who has one of the best secondaries built-into her defining gimmick!
you thought you had something there huh? dumb fuck, no one is going to question someone who likes Titania because she’s fucking rad. no one who claims to actually like the new Valkyr should be taken seriously
>b-but meta-
meta this meta that, have you ever meta damn girl, fatass? I could give a shit about the meta, valkyr is a generic abs boring melee platform for coomer faggots. they are not the same

>>716065620
>Wispnun
The what now?

>>716063393
>hypersexualizing
Saryn is older than you, zoomer

>>716076763
New protoframe that's romanceable is a blonde nun version of wisp

>>716076839
Any pics? Wisp is my wifeframe and everything you just said sounds amazing.

>>716076736
What the fuck are you talking about you schizo

>>716076805
Started with eyes of blight actually, pussy.

>>716076908

>>716077457
>still has the banging hips
Yep, that's good shit right there

>try out nerfed valkyr with basic no shard no helminth build
>deletes whole group of heavy gunners by keeping melee pressed for 2 seconds
eh?

>>716060305 (OP)
I wonder how many AIDS ridden homo faggots they will push onto my screen this time!

Okay so I haven't really played since around the start of Duviri, but looking up the things that happened ...
The fucking man in the wall just wants to take over the world to remove love and friendship? What the fuck is this carebear bad guy tier bullshit
What are these writers smoking these days

>>716079427
The previous villain empire was unable to control their robot death machines because they lacked basic human empathy to identify with them.

>>716062686
>>716062067
You're fucking retards

>>716063718
At least she still has the highest armour of any frame, right?

Have they done anything to Koumei in the last 5~ months

>>716079196
she already did that

>>716079938
You’re an easily-impressed faggot.

>>716080398
And you can't mod correctly.

>>716079729
At least robot uprising has some old bones as a classic story beat.
They're really insistent on draining any air of unknowable mystery from the void and I'm calling it now we will get a everyone sings a song and cries to defeat the bad guy ending here like it's Steven fucking universe

>>716079948
get the fuck out bitch

>>716081120
I love this fucking stupid looking thing

>>716081316

>>716081120
>>716081386
Finest Chernobyl suit you can find.

>>716060343
There is but you can only do it once a week

Never played before but my youtube feed is giving me more and more warframe videos for some reason. Also, I've read that the lead narrative guy stepped down and now the plot and lore is less science fiction and more fantasy bullshit

>>716079979
She got buffed in 1999. Nada after that. Why change her thought? She is alright.

>>716082530
>I've read that the lead narrative guy stepped down
Maybe this happened a decade ago, but as far as I know everything about Warframe's plot follows a very consistent pattern: Someone in the dev team watches a movie or plays a new game (from The Warriors to Baldur Gate 3), some months later the game gets a new feature (Nightwave Radio's Nora Night, Protoframe's romance gimmick).

>>716083205
I thought she was fine I was just wondering if anything happened

>>716082530
The old creator stepped down to make soulframe (yes they really called it that), the old community manager has been running the game for the last couple years. I don't have any major complaints, still the same game where you binge it for 3 months then quit for a year or two because content droughts.

once they
>remove damage attenuation
>stop relying on randomizing loadouts for late game content
then I'll have no major problems with it
if they
>make build crafting more interesting than shifting strength/duration/range/efficiency balance
>make a more engaging progression system to work through (or just straight up make an endgame system)
then I'll be grinding

>valkyr got even bigger nigger ass than ember
When do we get giga booba heirloom?

>>716067871
It's at the point now where the kuva weapons could do with a buff lol, and the entire lich system should be reworked

>>716084061
Saryn heirloom most likely.

>reach endgame
>need plat for fashion frame and shit Im not autistic enough to grind for
>enter trade chat, advertise my shit
>get invite, accept, kicked for 90% of trades when they realize I wont magically read their mind and lower the price
>try to buy literally anything
>get sent invite, accept
>offer?
>the fuck do you mean offer? Nigger Im buying this shit for the price YOU are advertising it at
>kicked, blocked
>see that same nigger in trade chat 24 hours later still trying to do this same shit
are these people thirdies, ESL or literal children?

>>716084504
Why are you using trade chat?

>>716084504
the target audience of this game is fucking retarded anon, this one’s on you

>>716067871
is Ember really that useless now?

>>716084727
she is complete ass, or atleast she was back when I quit. They made her 4 do dogshit damage with a tiny AoE around her. Meanwhile saryn got buffed so hard that using her first power and popping a single zit would infect the entire map with AIDs and kill everything faster than ember ever could

>>716084727
Much like Valkyr, she was ‘reworked’ solely to impress low-test retards and market their respective coomer trash premium skins. It doesn’t matter if their new kits have any longevity, as long as the skin sells it’s a success. Ember might be trash, but she fulfilled her purpose.

>>716070501
A lot of Warframe players don't realize that they have depression because of their crippling addiction to the game.

>>716070861
Prime frames dont really change that much. It's just a glorified skin.

>>716084901
I think ember is just fine.
Those who can't adapt their builds after a needed rework need to git gud.
DE should NEVER cater to the autists who sit in a mission for 10 hours to fight level capped enemies.

>>716071656
uh yeah its free and exclusively a multiplayer game
why would you pirate it?

>>716071134
>I don't like that we can actually fail the mission

>>716075620
new war was a steve era quest. his "magnum opus"

>>716085106
ember sucks fucking balls shill nigger

>>716085106
>bro just adapt your build retard
>anyways here is this other frame that does the exact same gimmick but infinitely better
>why did we buff the other frame and nerf the other one?
>youre playing the game wrong and we needed to change that so now go use sayrn instead :)

>>716060305 (OP)
>We're going to Tau... twice!
I wonder if they are going to make Sentient waifus. Or maybe Prime Grineer waifus?

>>716085248
actual unironic ethically sourced grassfed skill issue with no cure in sight

How do i farm Aya now? Still Deimos spam? I need some pointless GRIND right now in my life.

>>716084504
Trade chat is exclusively scammers and their victims (new players, lazy whales, stupid fucks thinking they are the wolf of wall street, etc.). This is the intended purpose of this chat channel because the victims will keep buying those big plat packs (without discount tickets and regional pricing) and DE loves that.
Everyone else uses warframe market for simple and fast trades (copy-paste the auto-generated message, join, trade, leave).

>>716085407
you can also get aya from popping relic packs, its how I spend my faction rep

>>716085359
>schizobabble
I accept your concession

>>716085632
You already conceeded with your stagnated ember build, sucks to sucks but its clear you won't do anything about it.

>>716084727
She is not in the sense that she can do stuff (even play caster, you can make her work in EDA and ETA with breach surge and that arcane that does viral in an area, but that's more because Breach surge is bullshit strong).

She is useless in the sense that she is powercreeped to hell and most frames will do what she does better and/or with a lot less effort mod wise.

>>716085632
I bet you use arcane energize on 3/4 your builds.

>>716066409
>late teen
COWARDS

>>716066409
>getting reworked
isn't it just additions to the focus tree? like we're getting some ultimate ability for each school.

>>716068426
I like doing Railjack missions against Grineer, but I mostly do them solo because Railjack requires a modicum of cooperation and most players in Warframe just don't do coop.

That mode made me realise that 9/10 of the playerbase actually doesn't bother to read the chat.

Yay more bloat

Did Frost get a rework? I haven't played in years and he was my favourite but wished there was more from him

>>716087585
you can shoot through his bubble now, so he went from F tier to S tier

>>716087658
that's neat but his 1 and 2 are still fucking useless

>>716087585
Frost is good now but half his build has to be bandaid augments. You have basically infinite over guard while mass CCing all the trash enemies with cold.

>>716087585
select your frost
>get 50k overguard istantly
or
>breach surge and pop armor and kill enemies of entire area with 1 or 2 casts of 4

>>716087585
A variant of him got turned into a dude named Velimir and is married to a saryn named Minerva and both have a kid named Neci together

>>716088203
i hate this human shit they're forcing into the game now and of course it's all dei blue haired weirdos

>>716088462
I’m just happy they didn’t decide to make these the actual frames. It’s just some random people infected with Entrati’s pet project of a modified strain. The original frames are unchanged

>>716071573
>that time I was raiding with Destiny Group Finder randos in VoG for the first time
>fighting Oracles
>whole team is down
>playing sunlock, already down when the last team member dies
>shout "WITNESS ME" and pop super
>throw fire all over the place
>survive long enough to res a buddy
>die again
>whoops and cheers over VC
>we wipe anyways

I miss those days.

>>716088462
waaah waah waaah change their hair color then
> it's all
no, fucking retard.

>>716086625
>isn't it just additions to the focus tree?
DE is lazy, but not that lazy.

>>716085330
notice how this didn’t get any replies kek, shillniggers are subhuman

>>716088462
All you had to do was to join Larian Studios and sabotage Baldur Gate 3's release and none of this Haydee 2 shit would have happened.

>>716084504
>using trade chat
That's your problem you inbred nigger. warframe.market is the only way to trade.

>>716066632
It literally is impossible, name one live service game that has some amazing 'end'. And you can't say The Matrix Online.

>>716060305 (OP)
I'm downloading the game right now.
What am I in for?

>>716060305 (OP)
I gotta be honest when they started focusing so much on the human characters I just lost complete interest.

If you told me back in 2015 there was going to be romanceable characters in Warframe I'd have told you that you were dumb.

>>716096840
confusing as hell in the beginning, amazing as hell in the middle, tedious as hell in the late

>>716087658
That only means I have to see him on missions now, which makes him even lower tier than when no one played him.

>>716087875
Yet another reason why he's even more shit now, anything that uses that new overguard bullshit is trash. Makes literally any mission a snoozefest.

>>716088462
This is a "dei blue haired weirdo" according to /v/-chuds

>>716085330
>i always need to play the most optimal frame for a situation

>>716095564
Stockholm Syndrome. Even Fallout 76 has better end game content than Warframe.

>>716096840
Confusing beginning that they're slowly patching their way through (new beginner quest coming "soon"). Expect to use external knowledge sources frequently.
Amazing, addictive middle grind that will drive you do eat sleep warframe if you're a NEET.
Chore-based endgame that you'll keep coming back to because you're committed to the grind at this point, so you might as well become a True Master.

And then you burn yourself out and quite for a year or two until they announce something really cool. Rince and repeat.

>>716099756
>no you dont understand a frame being unusable dogshit okay!

>>716098126
>>716099913
are you expanding on your post?
or is it really like this?

>>716099756
>no see bro its ok that DE nerfs whats already bad while buffing whats already good because uh... the bad frames dont have to be good, ok?
you are the problem with this game.

>>716096840
Poorly-designed tutorials, lots of nonsensical menus, mandatory wiki diving, timegates straight out of an early 2010's browser game, and a really fucking cool gameplay that will convince you to deal with all that shit for +1000 hours somehow.

>>716101515
this goes on until DE gives all of your favorites nonsensical item/frame ruining nerfs while making the meta even stronger.
at which point you realize why people inevitably get fed up and quit warframe.

>>716101863
this
rip my nigga ash, bro got taken out back and given the old yellar experience

>>716101937
Let me hook you up anon.
>Precision intensify mod
>build for strength and duration
>subsume bladestorm, replace with wrathful advance
>equip smoke shadow augment
>equip a syam with a heavy attack loadout and melee influence
Pop smoke shadow, use wrathful advance to teleport into a group of enemies, nuke the map. Is it what you want from him? Only you can answer that, but it’s good. In fact, I dare say it’s great.
>but anon isn’t that just a poor man’s Kullervo?
Technically does more damage, actually, especially thanks to Ash’s passive.

I am quitting Warframe for Soulframe

just play tfd instead

>>716103189
couldve chose a better picture than that

>>716103189
end of service soon

>>716103189
GOD
DAYUM

>>716102452
what's soulframe?

>>716105949
slower and somehow jankier warframe with less jumping

>>716101302
Correct. They do not have to be good. Just viable.

>>716100435
Two different anons. It is just like this.

>>716106592
and nu-valkyr is neither, given how high damage goes in the elite missions

>>716103712
>t. I'm gay

>>716103189
end of service never

>>716103189
>nexon garbage
Do you have legitimate brain damage?

>>716105949
You know how Duviri drifter combat is shit? Well that, except the entire game.

>>716107070
wtf is this lmao
actual AGP tranny game

>>716099272
good =/= fun

>>716107661
TFD is Warframe but for straight men so it's better

>>716065998
>>716102452
so uh
what the fuck do I do after freeing the rose lady? I've just been running around for like three hours wiping random bandit camps, I thought I saw more people at your base camp in promo materials from like a year ago but I still just have the smith and the cartographer

>>716107139
Now I know you never played it.

>>716075593
I haven't played in a while, but Dex Pixia was getting very powercrept and is desperately in need of a buff. Still super fun speedrunning low to mid level content and crossing open world maps in seconds.

>>716063718
>literally every other melee frame does her job better
I used to be a Valkyrfag a long long time ago and I replaced her with Baruuk years ago because it was obvious that she just didn't compare. It's so silly seeing Baruuk only getting stronger over time and Kullervo becoming the new melee god and then DE decides to dumpster Valkyr of all frames. Dodged the world's slowest moving bullet.

>>716060305 (OP)
Oh wow
It's half an hour of content every day for a week and then there's nothing to do again
Warframe updates are such a joke

>>716107661
cope trannyframe trash

>>716060305 (OP)
Can someone explain this game? Some idiot I removed from my friend's list recommended this, I played it and it seems boring as hell.
Friend bitches at me because I don't blitz through the missions or whatever and like to take my time exploring and apparently you're supposed to grind endlessly and wait for shit to be made.

>>716109673
that idiot you removed was probably hundreds/thousands of hours into the game. at that point, there is nothing to do but grind. but its a legit game and shines very well in the middle once you start getting in the real questline and have more weapons/frames to use.
>supposed to grind endlessly
thats every MMO. so if you didnt like it then, you wont like it now. its not too bad in the beginning or middle, but it is pretty shit in the late game. but at that point, youve already "beaten" the game
>wait for shit to be made
yeah, your foundry crafts stuff. A Warframe can take 72 hours before you get it. three days pretty much. in the beginning, its definitely a problem but thankfully they are fixing this. but in the middle, you wont even realize it since there's so much stuff to do or to use

>>716109673
I'm not sure why a friend would rush you through a game you're enjoying at your own pace. It sounds like they were more of an issue here, other than that, the game is all about grinding to get stuff that makes the content more fun to grind. You grind, get shiny new warframes and weapons, then grind to get more of them. The grinding comes in a lot of fun forms and versions, but it's all to ultimately acquire something.

>>716107086
>muh Nexon game
You don't even know what those words mean, you just repeat it because you've seen others post it

>>716062686
>>716063380
I stopped playing after burning out in fortuna and swearing off the game for good because DE were being too retarded for my liking by shoving the spacekids down my throat.
QRD on the completely asinine shit DE has done so far? Even if it's just highlights I just want to know how many bullets I dodged by quitting for good.

>>716107070
I love Luna so much

>>716111510
You chase the metaphysical concept of despair through time travel back to 1999 and unite a group of “protoframe” infected humans through the power of friendship in order to prevent a nuclear explosion from permanently altering the timeline. Also you can date the protoframes and they all want to fuck you

>>716109673
It used to be like musouslop but with guns and space ninjas, just moving around the maps and mindlessly grinding was fun.
Now it's a complete fucking mess that has more grind than maplestory and WoW combined and lore so nonsensical even most "deep lore" ecelebs fucking quit even caring.

>>716111710
that sounds so fucking stupid i refuse to accept you aren't just fucking with me

>>716077457
I can't believe it
DE made a human face that wasn't abysmal dogshit
have they finally grown and changed as a company?

>>716112158
Just a bit. The heirloom skins likely sell like hotcakes so the executives probably finally put pressure on them to stop making ugly shit all the time.

every warframe thread on /v/ is the same

>people that haven't played in ten years bitching about the same shit that made them quit forever ago
>people bitching about protoframes and the operator/drifter
>people bitching about steve and open worlds even though that was forevero ago and steve hasn't been a part of the project for like 4 years
>that one guy still playing destiny
>the paid nexon shill here to advertise TFD

>>716112267
Well has DE considered ACTUALLY FIXING THE FUCKING GAME?

>>716112343
Uh...
Um...
HOLY SHIT, LOOK! A PREMIUM SKIN!
QUICK, WHIP OUT YOUR WALLETS!

>>716112343
well they kinda are?
at least they're trying, i mean. streamlining the beginning of the game, they have frames now that don't take as long, a modding tutorial, Captain Vor has a proper dungeon and fight...

>>716112343
nigger how would you know
you haven't played in ten years

1999 fixed a bunch of shit that i thought personally was an issue
and i played the fuck out of it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8iCCFMM2Yc

>>716112109
anon, I…

i always laugh at /v/ hating the operator/drifter.
people loved it
then they added protoframes and /v/ reee'd
people loved it

DE is literally doing everything right, and the player count speaks about how good of a job they are doing

my literal only complaint i have is, they need to make it so heirloom bodies can be used with protoframe faces

>>716111710
>and they all want to fuck you
too be fair the drifter is so fucking cool of course everything wants to fuck them
>>716112109
it sounds stupid but it just werks

>>716112109
the funny thing is, he's not even exaggerating the "power of friendship" garbage. It really is as gay as it sounds.

>>716061749
>Time travel maymay.
And I'm out.

>>716112970
anon we have been timetraveling for like 6 years at this point

>>716112109
The proto-frames are based in the year of 1999, meaning they act and sound like them. A lot of 1999 themed consumerisms exist, like AOL, cellphones, and even boy bands. The internet is still 'new'. One of the characters entire theme is that she hates the internet and wants to go into the future, because someone leaked her nude(singular) and everyone saw it. Another has rats as friends. One of them is a bi-sexual nigger that speaks with a bastardization of English and Jamaican accent that gets a lot of pussy and is a total ladies man and canonically is a bottom.)

>>716113053
nuke Canada

>>716067871
id forgive all of it if they never came up with the operator. i dont care how attached you are to your potato it is genuinely a bad idea both narratively and gameplay wise

>>716113053
this anon is also lying
...right, guys?

>>716113258
the best stories have been the operator and drifter stories though.
>>716113336
>this anon is also lying
nope
you should try it, 1999 was great, the dating minigame i thought would be dumb but turned out to be one of the best additions to warframe, chatting with the protoframes about warframes fucked up lore was kino
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjL2r2FoYcM

>>716113336
no
1999 has its issues, quincy is a fucking faggot, amir is an annoying manchild, the whole concept of protoframes is a little weird at first, but mostly it was a pretty good update
it had some great music, for instance

For me? What was unforgivable was adding fishing and mining to the game and making them mandatory for progression.

I suppose you can pony up the platinum to skip all that nonsense, but there's other thngs in the game that force you to go mining and fishing too. What I loved about Warframe in the earlier days was how uniquely WARFRAME it was. There was nothing else quite like it. Then they decided to add a bunch of useless systems from other games. If Warframe was once a 10/10 space ninja action game, they have diluted experience to a 7.5/10 bloated mess of a game.

>>716113658
i liked amir, felt like a nerd self-insert

>>716113692
look man, at some point you just need to accept that you are wrong and that you have shit taste
people want this
i quite enjoy zipping around in the openworld going mach 5 doing mining runs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhvvKVj468o

>>716113692
>>716113863
>4chan ate my image
anyone else getting connection errors?

anyway look at that playercount, that shit is solid, other games would kill for this

>>716113863
>I enjoy doing mining runs
You, sir (yes, sir) are a victim of what is known as 'Stockholm Syndrome'. But fret not, Stockholm Syndrome is a curable condition. Just need to load this shotgun here and...

>>716113913
Notice how the steady growth period ends after 2017 and then it becomes very sporadic. That's the last year Warframe was 100% Warframe and not a mish mash of half baked ideas they got from other games.

>>716114046
i take plenty of breaks
its enjoyable, put some music on and cruise around
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxeswxJq-KY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqlicgmjFUE
speaking of music, the music DE has been putting out just keeps getting better and better

>>716114159
man have you looked at any other graph for live service games?
outside of a few big ones, they all look like this
the fact we are even talking about warframe proves they are doing things right

Every day I wish Rebecca gets stabbed to death
fucking cunt

>>716111510
there's too much for me to remember all of it and even compose a tl;dr of the major ones. you dodged a minigun.

I quit warframe when I realized I wasn't having fun, just endlessly grinding for shit and I would never reach the "1 shot everything" level of gameplay

>>716066409
Post it then

>>716115252
>just endlessly grinding for shit and I would never reach the "1 shot everything" level of gameplay
what?
just equip high strength mirage and a kuva grattler

>>716085106
The problem is that they aren't catering to people who want to clear fast either. They keep stuffing in ways to cripple you and make you waste more time in a mission that should have been over already.

>>716095564
To be fair Destiny 2 had a good end with Final Shape. Everything else after is literally just epilogue tier crap

>>716109673
>Friend bitches at me because I don't blitz through the missions
Your "friend" has been mindbroken like 3/4 of the people that play this game. Imho you should play solo most of the time and only go public when you want to do shit like fissures. Public, especially in modes that require 'cooperation' (even the bare minimum like 'stay in the same big room') is going to soon become draining cause of the absolutely braindead people that you are going to meet.
>>716109673
>I played it and it seems boring as hell.
If you didn't vibe with the movement system I don't think that's going to change. For me at least that's what hooked me into playing and all the grind and stuff becomes fun simply because you like to move around with the cool sci-fi weapon and shoot/slice/crush/freeze/whatever niggas while you unlock another cool sci-fi weapon.
I am going to say something dumb but it kind of reminds me of old Tomb Raider but I can't quite put my finger on why that is, my best guess is because you can 'freeform' all of your movement options.

>>716113692
good thing then that they added stuff you can do to gather those materials instead of fishing and mining
fucking retard

>>716116973
They shouldn't be designing missions, frames or weapons for optimizing clear speed, that should be a consequence of a good setup.
DE should focus on giving us tools that are fun to use, clear speed happens naturally after the fact.

>>716112863
>my literal only complaint i have is, they need to make it so heirloom bodies can be used with protoframe face
Do you have like a secret recipe to make the heirloom body look like normal skin? Because my first reaction was "EEEEEEW"

>>716113863
For me is doing exploiter orb and then making big money by selling the stuff you get. People go crazy for Marquise Thyst for some reason.

>>716107793
>warframe is a tranny game
When did they swing back? Warframe threads used to brag non-stop that trannies hate the game and it makes them seethe because of Jade.

>>716119863
just make them pure black

>>716120035
devs unpersoned a streamer because he "misgendered" a frame

>>716060869
Because it's true you subhuman faggot

>>716065950
'Muh claws' just use garuda then.
She's also a gorewhore like valk as well.
Why tbe fuck are you defendi g a shitty change yiu worthless shill?

>>716113658
proto trinity is worse