Why is it so fun? Is there a better game out there or is this peak?

>>716060751 (OP)
Boilsls down the psychology of being in a hunting party perfectly

Simple. The game was all about shooting zombies. So they made the incredibly simple yet rare choice to focus entirely on making shooting zombies as fun as possible.

It amazes me that companies still don’t get that you need to get your core gameplay right first before anything else

>>716060751 (OP)
these are things i enjoy: the movement, short linear levels, no complex teamwork required so you can play with mute randoms, the modding community

>>716060751 (OP)
Theres nothing enjoyable about this game . Zoomerjeet nostalgia glasses are the only thing carrying it still.

>>716060751 (OP)
All other horde shooters insist in adding dog shot progression mechanics which fundementally go againts the spirit of the genre of hop in co-op/versus.

>>716060751 (OP)
buy an ad

>>716060751 (OP)
It was made by people who enjoy videogames.

>>716060751 (OP)
gore system is still better than most modern shooters. mod the zombies to have human skin tones and have a blast.

>>716060751 (OP)
It sucks.

/thread

>>716060751 (OP)
Warhammer 40K Darktide

The first one is better.

>>716061713
At least the first one was playable.

>>716060751 (OP)
it's crazy when I think about it, I am playing this game since release and am still not bored. How did lord gaben do it?

>>716061713
Objectively false

>>716061713
Yeah, I love holing up in a corridor and shoving commons too.

>>716061145
Game before:
>do 3 things but do them right
Games today:
>do 30 things poorly

>>716060751 (OP)
I booted up l4d2 the other day but immediately quit and uninstalled it after I realized how r*ddit the world building was.

>>716060751 (OP)
>play with a ton of mods for years
>recently load up dead center
>for some reason all of my custom weapons use vanilla sounds, but only on vanilla campaigns
>works fine on modded campaigns
strange, anyone else have this issue? Tried verifying the files to no luck

>>716062193
it was a differen time, unironically
also interesting to see this when most point to Portal 2 as Valve's reddification

>>716062193
Valve at that time was the driving force behind reddit-style humor, not a product of it.

>>716062519
did you play versus by any chance? they banned mods in competeitive modes

>>716062519
Valve servers started enforcing file integrity because people were cheating with mods.

>they will never make a Left 4 Dead 3

>>716060751 (OP)
>Is there a better game out there
No. I enjoyed some other zombie co-op games, some other horde shooters, but I can't say that any of them is better.
The only FPS games that are equally simple yet as satisfying and replayable are original Doom and Quake and fan-made maps for them, but they are not co-op oriented at all.

>>716062839
mods are still allowed in campaign

l4d2 can even be enjoyed with bots if you've played the campaigns enough, even better with some advanced bot scripts

>>716062857
Well yeah because the intention with Left4Dead was that it would be one game and that's it, all they would release were updates and dlcs to it. But L4D1 was lacking in basically everything, which is why they felt like they had to make L4D2, hence the drama back in the days

>>716062193
>t. went to poetry scool

>>716060751 (OP)
It gets boring really quicky if you don't mod it.

As far as zombie survival games goes it's absolute peak

I enjoyed Killing Floor 1 more.

>>716064064
A zombie game with L4D2's pace and level design and Killing Floor's class system and /k/ autism would be the ultimate zombie game

>>716060751 (OP)
This board absolutely hates darktide, but I think Darktide is just as fun as L4D2 and is a little bit more in depth at the highest difficulties. Only think Darktide lacks is good missions

>>716064491
I played Vermintide 2 and while it was okay, even good sometimes, it still felt really fucking bad compared to L4D.

>>716060751 (OP)
Darktide. Still in Beta tho.

>>716064984
Too few ammo

>>716060751 (OP)
zombie physics n shiet

>>716062839
>>716062771
no, just single player
does that count as a "valve server" now?
the models and animations work fine, its just the sounds for some reason

>>716062193
You’re reddit!

>>716060751 (OP)

Helldivers 2 is the true succesor to Left 4 Dead 2.

>>716060751 (OP)
The first one was the better game

>>716062193
>>716062742
>Valve at that time was the driving force behind reddit-style humor, not a product of it.
The inconvenient truth most wish to ignore. Portal was the main bulwark of this push for wacky randumb humor on the internet at the time.

>>716061713
How?

>>716073018
not even close

>>716073018
never thought about it, but you're right

>>716063614
L4D1 felt like a beta. And when L4D2 was announced, I was very wary of why Valve was making it since it didn't feel like something they'd do, but it really did make the entire experience fully bona fide as a $60 game. That and DLC/Patches wouldn't be able to do what they intended.

>>716073018
Nah, not even close. Randomly generated generic maps hurt a lot.

>>716061893
on L4D2 they ruined L4D maps cause VS fags, making the game even more rushable cause
>le endless gauntlets
you have no idea how many time this shit has made people kicking eachother cause fucking tourists have to camp or explore every single room, or because once your inventory is full and you have the lazer you don't fucking stop for everything cept when you have to save someone in the vicinity or you need a molotov

On maps that got ruined once I hate the boomer jar I never stopped, I kept that shit and used it to stunlock the horde in place by tossing it out of bounds, if tourist started to pigeon shoot I simply rushed to the safehouse and pretended they were not there.

>>716073334
Portal 1 was smartly written thoughbeit

>>716061145
Yeah I remember some commentary from a dev saying they just made like 100 animations of the zombies falling over after you shoot them. Something I noticed in game too, but a lot of devs forget that gameplay canjust be good if you give it the visual and audible punch it needs

>>716062193
PS Im fat

Coach is the best

>>716075771
>Coach is the best
T.

>>716061893
desu i liked that about 1. the game was about moving together, staying grouped up, holding down an area when you all had to. 2'd special infected all punish the team for being close

>>716061341
I was 20 when the first game came out

>>716062042
Niggas really say this as if the 5th and 6th gen weren't littered with games that are like
>this is gonna be all about jumping
>but now here's combat, a car section, a snowboard section, a minecart section, a turret section, sumo minigame, power-up that only matters for the designated button press areas, etc. etc. etc.
>no, the jumping isn't that great either

>>716064491
Darktide's absolutely fucking RETARDED CURRENCYCRAFTREROLL shit turned me off it permanently. It was already annoying as fuck in Vermintide, then they went and made it even clunkier and impossible to parse. I don't care if it makes sense after 20 hours. I would rather spend that time playing something else.

>>716060751 (OP)
Killing Floor 1 is better

>>716060751 (OP)
It sucks that they get rid the glitches in l4d 1 campaigns in 2

>>716060751 (OP)
There's better games out there, but I think L4D2 might still be the best of its formula. It just nailed the perfect pacing for this kind of game: all the maps are incredibly linear but with a minor amount of room to look around, so you're almost always moving along and funneled together unless you're doing a crescendo event, and that onslaught is high energy enough to tide you over until them.

Other games, there's too much room to separate, or you're wandering around a central area without making progress, or you're getting slowed down by combat while trying to keep moving, or so on and so forth. L4D2's design is just the right amount of disposable and focused that it works well for keeping players together without even getting to the co-op mechanics, and always feels like you can just clear them one after another.

There's other co-op shooters I enjoy more, but they're never as much of a "just jump in and beat a thing" kind of game. It's hard to describe, but whatever.

>>716060751 (OP)
i tried it and would just get kicked from games

>>716076780
>>716064064
Redpill me on killing floor 1 I never played it. Does the other games kf games hold up ?

>>716062193
>t. Alison

>>716073018
helldivers feels jank compared to left 4 dead