Why is it so fucking hard?

>>716098513 (OP)
look at her exposed back, how couldn't it be hard?

It's not that bad.

the only boss I couldn't no-hit was Eligor

>>716098513 (OP)
I've never played this. I've only played dawn of sorrows and portrait of ruin. both excellent games BTW

>>716099132
If you loved those games you will hate Ecclesia. Terrible Castlevania game.

>>716099132
You should try it. It's pretty good.

>>716099408
I love all three. What now?

>>716098513 (OP)
Nigger it's Castlevania.

It's supposed to be hard.

>>716098513 (OP)
Circle of the Moon is the hardest of the GBA/DS games and it's not even close. The final boss mogs any other challenge in all of those games.

isn't there a game that mimics this story with an actual update. I can't remember the name it's a side scroller

>>716099568
the main character is a sexy woman

>>716099486
Why do you like Ecclesia and its corridor level design?

>>716099408
filtered

>>716099621
Because it has good combat encounters and boss fights.

>>716099408
if it's worse than portrait of ruin, than I'm not interested

>>716099621
Why do you rate PoR higher when it literally has the same design for its paintings?

>>716099512
there are two types of castlevania games. you understand that right?

>>716099132
Play aria of sorrow and symphony of the night.

>>716099818
And only one type of dicksucker and you're him!

>>716099869
I have I was just talking about ds games. my two favorite castlevania games are super castlevania 4, and symphony of the night. I 100% aria of sorrow. it's still too short compared to sotn

>>716099725
It plays more like a classic Castlevania game. If you like the metroidvania games more don't bother with ecclesia

>>716099554
Circle of the Moon is hard for all the wrong reasons. Still my top 5, though since it introduced me to the series and is still a very good game.

>>716100058
whats the game I'm thinking of that has awesome castlevania mods that are better than the original games? I know you play as a bad ass chick...my mind is eluding me

Just to let you guy's know I've played every castlevania game except for OP's game. I didn't know it existed

>>716099554
>Ice demon
>Dark armour
>Succubus
>Poison armour
>The entire challenge arena
That game gave me stress on my first play through

>>716099808

Only visually. Each painting felt distinctly different in terms of level design and some areas like Dark Academy had little flourishes like the flesh skeleton biology room that made them enjoyable. I'd rather have thematically similar areas than the butt ugly areas of OoE.

>>716099554
the hardest part was SEEING ANYTHING BECAUSE THE LACK OF BACKLIGHT AND THE GAME BEING SO FUCKING DARK

>>716099970
>I guess your wine glass can't hold my immense boner fluid

>>716099970
>>716100846
>which one is it queer? blood or cum?

OoE fags be like that's peak level design

>>716101267
gross

>>716098513 (OP)
>Why is it so fucking hard?
Play the game instead of looking at to my penis.

>>716100467
No you haven't

>>716098513 (OP)
It's not and it's BORING. Hard mode makes it "harder" but that doesn't mean it's more fun.

>>716098513 (OP)
What are you talking about? It's pretty easy.
Have you tried double spamming ignis or finding enemy weaknesses?

Recently, I beat Castlevania 64 and Legacy of Darkness. I think the bad qualities everyone but AVGN claims are true, but so are its good qualities. And I'd gladly rank as like third best in the series.

>>716103571
He's a SOTN shitter who thinks a boss fight that lasts more than two seconds is hard.

>>716098513 (OP)
It really isn't, if you are wallet at any point the solution is to switch your damage type.

>>716099554
>The final boss mogs any other challenge in all of those games.
Ah, so you haven't played OoE hard lv1.

>>716099621
>corridors but you go up and down occasionally
:o
>straight corridors
>:(

All of IGA's games are linear af, you always fight the bosses and get abilities in the same order, there's no freedom whatsoever

>>716103745
What do you think you're achieving by combining scanlines with upscaled graphics?

>>716098513 (OP)
During exploration you need to pay attention to damage types. Some shit just takes chip damage from everything but like strike element attacks. It's just how it the game is.

Against bosses you have to learn their attacks and the windows where you can beat on them. It's not optional like in most of these games where you can mostly ignore their boss patterns and just DPS them down because they just hit too hard. But there's very little reflex involved in most of them and if you work out the right formula you can get the no-hit medal on them without much need for reflexes or other twitch skills.

>>716099621
Because Classicvanias are better and it's the closest one out of them

>>716103745
>And I'd gladly rank as like third best in the series.
Behind what? Simon's Quest and Judgment?

>>716104152
To burn the lines into my retinas, anon.

>>716104180
Enemies being weak/resistant to certain weapon types was pretty retarded, you are constantly switching weapon and it's such a drag. Reminds me of awfully designed JRPGs like Vagrant Story

The bosses are nothing special if you've played other 2D action games like Mega Man, very cookie cutter patterns, and yeah you can also DPS them down late game by using the Nitesco + any weapon glyph union with the death ring equipped

>>716104453
Rondo is the best Castlevania. And then I always flipflop on how I feel about SotN and CotM. CotM has the best general feel in the series and the best difficulty of the Metroidvanias. But it's also utterly soulless, artistically barebones, and tonally feels like a bootleg Castlevania. While SotN is peak sovl and I love how experimental its willing to let items be compared to later games, but its also frankly so easy it can be boring.

>>716099408
Colossal retard

>>716099408
Dawn of Sorrow is the worst of the three. It is an unnecessary sequel in both sense of the word.

>>716098513 (OP)
Because at that point Castlevania had had baby difficulty for years. OoE was a statement.

>>716099408
But Ecclessia is not only the best in the DS trilogy, but one of the best Castlevanias overall?

>>716103415
I don't play mobile phone games faggot

>>716105334
it doesn't compare to sotn.

>>716099621
Because it tried to mix Classic and Metroidvania instead of rehashing SotN for the millionth time. You get Classic levels until you reach Dracula's Castle then it's Metroid.

>>716105676
Sotn is the most overrated metroidvania ever. Falls off harder than dark souls around the halfway point, retardedly easy, mechanically barebones, etc.
muh "atmosphere" doesn't make a game good.

>>716100197
>Game where the majority of Nathan's power comes from the card system as well as a lot of the interesting stuff
>Completely unusable in Arena because it drains your MP to 0 barring a cheesy summon before it drains fully
What in the world were they thinking with the Arena? Why would you make the main gimmick of your game completely unusable in the absolute hardest area of the game, especially one where it throws horse shit rooms at you like that minotaur spam one there. Also
>No music , dead silence.

>>716098513 (OP)
Stop playing with one hand (though I can't blame you)

>>716105832
you're retarded. if this game didn't exist you wouldn't have your gay genre. you fan go straight to hell

>>716105959
But Classicvania existed for 11 years before SotN?

>>716105959
if ben franklin didnt discover electricity we wouldnt have computers. retard.

>>716098513 (OP)
Because they put retarded scaling on weapon types for no reason, so doing meaningful damage at times requires you to swap.

>>716106181
of your mom didn't consume cum you wouldn't exist

>>716098513 (OP)
It's just annoying. Bosses have too much HP while having very simple movesets, and the player moveset is also a lot smaller than previous IGAvanias so there isn't much room for self-expression.
It's the weakest DSvania easily.

>>716106219
yes, retard? if she swallowed me i wouldn't exist

>>716106105
castlevania 3?

>>716106279
she made a bad decision

>>716106323
kind of like sotn was filled with bad design decisions that got ironed out by its superiors. its an inferior metroidvania in the year 2025 and its lazy to say "the genre wouldnt exist without it"

>>716106425
This is a Playstation black disc

>>716106287
Yeah?

>>716105832
SotN has Shield Rod and other funny gimmicks. The later games don't and are handheld games. Every game after SotN just tries to copy it. And graphically they feel like downgrades. It'd be like if the series started with 4 and then decided to downgrade to 1.

Talk about Harmony of Despair

>>716107016
It will never release in steam, and we will never play it together, and I hate Konami.

>>716107016
Its less of a game and more of a fever dream. Perfect game to play while sick, would never play again otherwise.

>>716107016
I would buy it again for a high price but Konami hates money I guess

>>716107016
>Harmony of Despair
It existed at one point.

>>716103745
CV64 is actually pretty damn great. Excellent soundtrack and atmosphere. Bimmy is a retard for getting stuck on the mandragora "puzzle".

>>716107109
>>716107157
>>716107216
>>716107227
Thank

>>716099554
Only if you're ignoring the cards

>>716107270
I just hate the controls. I hate how the game feels on a fundamental level. The level design is surprisingly adept and considered a lot of the time. It certainly had more effort put into it than the PS2 snorefests.

>>716107016
>dude he's a belmont but he looks and moves just like alucard!
JUSTE fuck my shit up

>>716107617
Juste is actually the second-strongest Belmont ever, only behind Julius.

Richter is a fucking disgrace.

Every time I play HoD and wonder why the colour palette is so garish and why Juste has the obnoxious Street Fighter Alpha afterimage effect turned permanently on, I just remember that CotM got murdered on the internet for being too dark because Nintendo cheaped out on the GBA and didn't put in a backlight.

Fuck Nintendo. Who else had one of these?

>>716107270
>Bimmy is a retard for getting stuck on the mandragora "puzzle"
Honestly I just don't get it. How did he play through the entire game and not think to press the "use item" button? Even if the has right that you couldn't drop the nitro, there was no need for him to restart back at the beginning of the game. Whenever you die there is an option to reset back at the beginning of the level.
At first I thought he was intentionally making it up for the bit. But he was playing on easy, if he beat the level the game wouldve kicked him out and told him to restart back on normal. And that would've made for a far better bit. So he clearly was genuine in his opinion. It's just baffling. I just don't get it

>>716107857
I didn't have that one, but I had an attachment light. They made similar things for books and still do.

/v/ will tell you Lord of Shadows is bad
>look inside
It has two sequels
Curioud.

>>716098513 (OP)
because one of the main complaints about the previous few back then was that they were too easy

>>716106723
that game is overlooked and underrated

>>716108039
mirrors of fate is actually good

>>716108039
Lots of shitty things get sequels. LoS1 is a decent game, though. It's just too fucking long. Mirror of Fate isn't awful either (its inexplicably shit performance on the 3DS notwithstanding), just rushed and unfinished feeling. LoS2 is a total disaster.

>>716108039
Kill yourself AND the night.

>>716107529
I like how the game controls for combat. Those short hops backwards that usually get you killed while platformer becone really fun to use one a fight breaks out. Especially as Reinhardt where you go from being way worse than Carrie to being arguably better.

>>716099621

>>716098513 (OP)
Worst game of the DS IGA vanias. Really bland level design and powers.

>>716099621
s

>>716107617
>one of the most busted Belmonts ever and definitely inherited grandma Sypha's magic
>born too early to fight Dracula
I don't care what universe you're from, that's gotta hurt!

>>716109731
Well atleast he got live a fullfilling life with his loving wife and best friend.

:(

>>716109919
Fuck off Sam Deats

Why did it take until OoE for them to make weapons and resistences matter? Remember being amazed when I realized I actually have to switch off the lance and use magic or hammers for some shit.

>>716108039
It's the best 3Dvania, for what little that's worth. LoS2 is baffling, though. Just bizarre choices all over.

>>716098513 (OP)
I forced myself to beat this game for the first time ever very recently and it definitely gets less tedious as it goes on. I'd even say it becomes really good once you get past the shitty aimless mini maps but holy fuck that is a hell of a barrier to get through. The story is cringe to the max though in a different more faggy sort of way than dawn of sorrow which I think ie equally cringe but in a generic anime sense.

It was kino

>>716110437
No Castlevania game has a story worth caring about.

>>716110357
>It's the best 3Dvania
I played the game for like 6 hours and forgot it was a castlevania game because it was such generic fantasy. That automatically disqualifies it from even being listed with the rest of the series for me.

>>716110525
I never thought to myself "this is so fucking gay" when playing playing the other games.
>I can finally cry!! *smiles*
At least SOTN was goofy trash you could laugh at when it tried being a soap opera. Dawn & ecclesia are aggressively cringe inducing and rub your face in it.

>Bloodstained 2 will have an FFV like Job system and Romancing SaGa-style sparking system
Holy mother of kino

>>716109919
I've always preferred the idea of him as Richter's dad, even if Juste would be in his 40's and it arguably makes the family a bit smaller.
It also feels like a waste to kill off Lydie, Maxim, and Juste's kid just to give Juste (and Richter) a tragic backstory.

>>716110525
I kinda like the one from 64. Shame there wasn't more of it.

>>716111324
Where did you find this info from?

The game is not that hard
>>716099408
Gay hands typed this

>>716098513 (OP)
Because it's kino

>>716099408
You're wrong and gay

>>716107862
>me and anon when a new Pragmata thread hits

>>716099568
night of revenge?

>>716111334
>even if Juste would be in his 40's and it arguably makes the family a bit smaller.
It's ok anon. My headcannon for Richters blood relations is a lot more whack.

>>716111863

>>716111634
https://youtu.be/4pyGoar107w?si=f6NJVCg4Q58dehU1
https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/news/bloodstained-the-scarlet-engagement-exclusive-interview-shutaro-iga

I honestly didn't enjoy OOE until really late game where you got fun skills. Something about the mechanics annoyed me. And is this the game with two bonus levels at the end? One was platforming, which I enjoyed, and one was a boss rush with no checkpoints, which filtered me.

>>716110465
Too bad the Kickstarter obligations led to us not even getting a proper announcement for the sequel until 6 fucking years after the fact.
Also wild how their 3D modeling and lighting hasn't improved one iota in that trailer.

>>716112374
What the fuck, Iga speaks like 3 sentences in this entire interview.

>>716113406
Curry the Kid is the real brainchild

>>716113406
Iga is literally an idea man grifter like Inafune, hence the kikestarter game, but less successful and obvious about it so no one cares

>>716104553
unlike vagrant story you have quick set-switch hotkeys. I like it being optimal to switch up weapons with slightly different feel/rhythm often. It's not a great mechanic I want in every game but it's not a bad mechanic either.

>>716113873
>less successful
Actually, he would be more successful since people actually liked Bloodstained.

>>716098513 (OP)
It gets easier with every playthrough. Just learn how things work, then git gud.

>>716100197
That room was total bullshit. If cheating isn't acceptable anywhere else, it's still acceptable there.

>>716111704
Reminder that she's canonical plain.

>>716113943
I mean comparing Megaman as a whole to the Castlevania games Iga has his name on, I imagine Megaman is more successful

>>716098513 (OP)
>Why is it so fucking hard?
You're using only weapon glyphs instead of the comically broken spell ones (axes are an exception - they carry you until you get the triple fireball)
You're not selling all those excess quest items for mad cash
You're trying to no-hit the bosses - the only thing difficult in the game and mostly due to absolutely godawful hitboxes where in one moment you can have your entire sprite inside parts of the enemy with no problems and in the nex you get ripped to shreds because a tiny stray pixel touched you which is especially a problem with multi-segmented bosses

>>716098513 (OP)
It's the best Castlevania game.

>>716099119
Eligor cheats is the thing. Every boss in the game has tells before their attacks, usually with an auditory cue and an animation. It's part of the patterns so you know what to dodge.
Once you get on his back, his tells are inconsistent because regardless of the lead up to the attack, the actual attack that comes out can change to one of the ones designed to knock you off if he has crossed an invisible HP threshold. He does this twice in the fight, at 2/3rds and 1/3rd HP.

>>716113943
I think he means generally since Inafune was reasonably high up the chain at Capcom at one point whereas even at his peak Igarashi was never a major figure at Konami like Kojima or the Pro Evolution Soccer dude

>>716114249
And if you break the crystals on his front legs at the wrong time he'll sucker punch you with his sword by almost instantly switching into his hurt-pose.

>>716114420
Inafune has prestige as a series creator and is credited on several dozen games is the main point

>>716099621
Literally came to this thread to mention this lol, fuck it's egregious how blatant it is.

>>716114249
Different anon. Only boss I could never figure out how to dodge was the shadow guy. Can still no-hit him by spamming glyph unions before he attacks, but that's basically cheating. It's like there's not physically enough room to fit yourself between his bullshit.

>>716098513 (OP)
>Try out hard mode
>Literally the first enemies two shot kill you
>You die in like 5-6 hits in the monastery and there's bats everywhere when you're climbing up the stairs
>That first linear level in the forest
Calling this "hard mode" is an understatement...

>>716098513 (OP)
>Try out hard mode
>Literally the first enemies two shot kill you
>You die in like 5-6 hits in the monastery and there's bats everywhere when you're climbing up the stairs
>That first linear level in the forest
Calling this "hard mode" is an understatement.

>>716113993
>canonical plain
Hot

>>716114559
This is true too! In this case though, I think it's just an animation oversight. They use a paper-doll style of animating Eligor, and when he gets hit into the damage animation, the hurtbox of the sword just kinda has to lerp into position across the arena, player be damned. It's a bit more forgivable because it doesn't look intentional.
>>716114781
You basically have to be against the wall most of the time, and then time your jumps / crouching in accordance to his attacks. The patterns are quick but quite reliable, once you get them down. The nice thing about the fight is that his biggest weakness is sitting right outside his door, and you can pretty ambiently spam Nitesco through-out the fight. It shouldn't take more than 2 minutes with a decent setup.

>>716111312
How is that any of that cringe? Shanoa goes through a lot of the game without being able to express emotions because of the incident at Ecclesia and when she finally remembers what Albus was to her and how much he was protecting her, of course she's going to cry that the person most special to her is going to leave her after sacrificing himself for her sake.

>>716103745
You're right that C64/LoD are underrated but 3rd in the whole series is nuts.

>"YOU STUPID DISCIPLE"
How do you respind without soumding mad?

>>716115441
Guess who I learned it from

>>716098513 (OP)
>Why is it so fucking hard?
Because Shanoa is hot as hell. That's why it's hard anon. It's a completely natural reaction of the body.

Order of Ecclesia would have really benefited if it had Bloodstained's quick switch wheel. Only 3 presets wasn't enough and having to hold a button and press the shoulder buttons felt awkward in the heat of combat.

>>716098945
Love women who wear dresses with an exposed back and shoulders! *purr*

>>716115441
"I am the morning sun, come to vanquish this horrible night!"
*autistic witch screeching*

>>716115441
Just jump over his abusive ass. That's how I did it to dodge his punch attacks.

>>716107529
>It certainly had more effort put into it than the PS2 snorefests.
Currently playing through Curse of Darkness and it might have some of THE worst level design I've ever seen.
Like, holy shit, when a room with a switch or an elevated platform where you FINALLY have a reason to use the jump button are the most exciting things you encountered after three hours you know you're playing total garbage.

>>716116260
Also
>check bestiary
>like 80-90 potential entries
Hey, this is actually a pretty good variety for a 3D action ga....
>Skeleton lvl1
>Fenrir lvl5
>Zombie lvl5
>Spirit lvl6
>Skeleton lvl10
>Fenrir lvl25
>Zombie lvl27
>Spirit lvl13
>Skeleton lvl15
>Fenrir lvl30
>Zombie lvl38
>Bloody Skeleton lvl5
>recolored Zombie lvl24
>....
...oh...

>>716116260
Curse is so lazy in terms of levels there's a section literally called the infinite corridor, it's exactly what it says on the tin, fucking corridors

>>716116872
I want to lick her glyphs.

>>716116720
I wouldn't even mind it if there was something to do in those corridors but some of them are devoid of ANYTHING and are nothing but filler where you spend 1-2 minutes to slowly walk from one door to the other with not even any enemies inbetween.
I don't think I've even seen a single environmental hazard or trap so far.
How the fuck can't you even be arsed to add generic shit like spikes or flamevents to your areas?
The longer I play the more it feels as if they quickly ran out of what little budget they had and just released a pre-alpha at best where they only finished the general layout of the areas.

>>716099716
I know but I'm sorry anon, plebs can't quite grasp the concept of encounter design