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About to play this for the first time. Any tips?

>>716099124 (OP)
Have fun.
You'll need to go through the dark cave to the east to get the candle to see in dark caves.

>>716099124 (OP)
you can cancel your level up to save up for a better stat, it's risky because you lose all unspent experience once you get a game over but getting an early point of attack can help a lot.

when you die your stats revert to whatever the lowest is, so spread em instead of minmaxing

The only real criticism for Zelda 2 is that some things are cryptic as shit, the gameplay is perfectly fine. Surprised it's never gotten any kind of (official) remake.

>>716099124 (OP)
How about that? It’s my special medicine.

>>716099124 (OP)
nigger

>>716099124 (OP)
Prepare to git gud. The game doesn't fuck around. Feel free to grind, Death Mountain will be a bastard without it.

>>716099124 (OP)
Level your attack early, you’re gonna get your ass handed to you a lot

>>716100134
max your attack stat early, and dont die

>>716099124 (OP)
You don’t need to beat dungeon bosses in any particular order. You do need to acquire items from dungeons in a certain order, but you can return when you’re stronger to kill the boss.

>>716099124 (OP)
Learn how to use your shield early rather than late.

>>716099124 (OP)
Don't suck.

You don't have to fight everything and in fact, you shouldn't.

>>716101765
I'm willing to die a million times at level 3 for the hammer just so I don't have to backtrack through the goddamn cave

>>716099124 (OP)
||IF ALL ELSE FAILS, USE FIRE||

>>716100176
only the case with the jp version. in the later releases, you just lose xp

>>716105225
Good advice in real life, too.

>>716099124 (OP)
As should be the case with any NES game you pick up, look up the manual online, read it carefully end to end, and keep it bookmarked for reference, because often information is conveyed in there that isn't conveyed so well in the game itself. In a rare instance of unprompted consumer-friendliness, Nintendo themselves actually post a lot of their old manuals on their website.
This game in particular has a couple (at least one for sure, arguably 2-4) instances of really bullshit "puzzles" or otherwise overly abstruse progress-gates, so don't feel to bad about looking up what to do if you get stuck and bored of not making progress.

>>716099124 (OP)
Sit really close to the screen

Don't be afraid to experiment with magic. So many people cry about the difficulty of the game because they only use magic for the Heal spell and nothing else.

>>716099124 (OP)
Play the Redux romhack. Use a guide if you can't figure out where to go because some of the progression steps are just nonsensical.

The game is really obtuse and kinda sucks ass, it's just a downgrade from Zelda 1 across the board.

>>716099124 (OP)
Ignore anybody that tells you to substitute a shitty mod for the vanilla game on your first playthrough.

>>716099124 (OP)
The hardest part are:
>The very start
>Death mountain which is like 1/3 into the game
>Road to the final temple

Otherwise as you level up it gets insanely easy, I'd use a map for the last temple unless you wanna be exposed to SOME bullshit.

>>716108102
Terrible strat, you nerd to short hop and stab as you lose altitude to 100% stab them in the head.

>>716109268
if you do this you're gay and will die of AIDS

>>716099124 (OP)
hookers give hearts

>>716108992
reddit

>>716111420
Link looks like a grown man cosplaying as a child

>>716111292
Is Link really fucking them?

>>716109369
What if I go into the swamp after coming out of the cave, get into a hard-enemy encounter, sit my ass on the far left corner of the battle field, clamp down the turbo B button on my controller, and come back 5hrs later?

do I die of AIDS too?

You have intellectual disabilities because your IQ is less than that of an imbecile for touching anything from the 80s.

>>716099124 (OP)

>>716100305
I really don't think this is true. I played through it for the first time not counting getting stuck at the beginning of the game as a kid a few years back and had no problems figuring out where to go without using any guides.
Here's what I'd consider a real criticism though: The final boss sucks. It's very hard with no clear indication of what you're supposed to do other than know to cheese with crouch stabs.

>>716109268
It's a lot more fun to do like he did and just stab around his shield. The problem wasn't his strategy, it was that he got hit.

>>716099124 (OP)
Actual tips? If you're unsure how a bit (blue slime) or Myu (lil spike guy) are moving on a platform and you're sure you'll be knocked in lava, wait for them to yeet themselves into water/lava. It'll only a take a few seconds. otherwise you can jump crouchstab to the platform.

Jumpslash ironknuckles and lizalfos, even in tight ceilings.

refer to a guide if you're stuck. I grew up with this game but even i realize that theres some stupidly hidden shit in this game. Items are hidden on random overworld tiles so try not to miss stuff.

you can spam the downstab to kill high HP enemies quicker when you get it.

If you cant figure something out, magic and jump spells are sometimes you best friend.

>>716099124 (OP)
Enjoy, it is one of the best in the series to this day.

>>716099124 (OP)
Genuinely look up a guide for Death Mountain, it's not worth the headache and also you're going to need to spoil yourself when to use the "Spell" spell to access a temple , when this game first came out it was kind of expected you had a guide for it and there's 0 hints as to the location of the temple where you need to use that Spell at.

Also get ready for the most underrated Zelda game that is genuinely in my top 10 games ever made. It's on par with the first two Castlevania games imo

>>716112553
lol no. It's a total downgrade from LoZ.

>>716112621
It's not a downgrade in any way, it's one of the best side scrollers of its era. Zelda 1 and 2 are just different games

>>716112590
>you're going to need to spoil yourself when to use the "Spell" spell to access a temple , when this game first came out it was kind of expected you had a guide for it and there's 0 hints as to the location of the temple where you need to use that Spell at.
I don't remember this part of the game after playing through it. Could you be more specific? Was it something optional that I missed?

>>716112761
Not him but, from my memory.
You have to use spell at the end of new kasuto town, which makes a church appear which has the large key if i remember right. And you cannot progress without it

>>716112684
>it's one of the best side scrollers of its era
Hell no. You're crazy if you think II's boring ass combat is anything on par on stuff like Megaman or Castlevania. The idea is cool of high and low blocks, but doesn't carry itself throughout the game. You don't even get cool items to play around with, you get a bunch of spells that just hits with a generic full screen attack or Fire which lets you shoot at range, and that's it. Everyone skips the Great Palace with the Fairy (or Cucco spell in the fan remake) spell because by then you're so bored you want it to be over with. Switching from a top down overworld to a jrpg-style map was clearly a experiment that didn't pan out well which is why Nintendo never used it again. Getting into constant encounters everytime you leave the road is not fun, even with the bait in the fan remake.

>>716112761
Yeah there's a house in the hidden town where you get the spell that gives you the Magic Key which is an infinite key. The only way to know about how to find the house was in the official manual the game itself gives 0 hints about it except there's "something" on the outskirts of town from the magic container lady

It's optional unlike the hidden palace but it is cool

You can dislike this game but if you legitimately think 1 was better you should just kill yourself

>>716112864
>>716113179
There's an NPC in that town that gives you a hint though. That's the opposite of cryptic.

>>716112193

You are a small retarded child.

>>716113269
If you like II over I you're legitimately mentally ill and have neither played a NES game with good combat before.

>>716113031
I think it's a fair statement to make. It's a good game. Megaman and Castlevania are far more action oriented while Zelda 2 is an adventure game. They're very different experiences. I think I might prefer Faxanadu to Zelda 2, but Zelda 2 is still great. Far far better than most games that tried to rip it off. Like compare it to something like Battle of Olympus.

Also Castlevania 3 is far better than 1.

You have the ugliest handwriting any male ever had because you suck @ everything you do with your hands.

>>716113317

>>716099124 (OP)
play hoverbat's version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbuD4MxZk28

>>716113031
>You're crazy if you think II's boring ass combat is anything on par on stuff like Megaman or Castlevania
It's on par with Castlevania 1 and straight up better than Castlevania 2. Although Metroid and Megaman are better than all of the above. The thrust and blocking mechanics are fluid and when combined with the spells like Thunder , Reflect, and Fire absolutely does carry itself through the whole game and gives a sense of progress where enemies that were dangerous become a lot easier to deal with. Both Castlevania 1 and Zelda 2 came out the same year and I'd argue they're pretty comparable in combat variety and progress except Zelda 2 has mild RPG mechanics while Castlevania has at least some weapon variety

>>716099124 (OP)
It took me quite a few tries as a kid to beat the final boss.

>>716113315
Yeah she just says there's "something" you're not really given the hint to spam Spell everywhere

>>716111578
hags give magic

>>716113398
It's not completely unredeemable, and there's plenty of times I liked about it like the addition of caves functioning as actual levels and not just single rooms, towns with NPCs to interact with, the magic meter. But the hard focus on dungeon crawling and core melee combat over non-linear exploration and item interactivity that do different things was a misstep.

You're begging to have the headcheese blown out of your negroid skull, you small retarded child. You have the ugliest handwriting any male ever had because all of you suck @ everything you do with your hands.

>>716113317

>>716113371
>Zelda 1
>good combat
Kill yourself retard

>>716113398
Did you ever play Dragon Slayer? Is that something worth checking out

>>716113625
>enter new town
>talk to NPCs
>one gives you a mysterious spell and says not to forget it
>another tells you there's a secret at the end of the town
It's really not that big of a stretch to just try using the spell that you just got where you're told the secret is. If you're an 8 year old kid, yeah I can get it, but if you're an adult who is used to video games you should know to just try things sometimes.

>>716113586
>spells like Thunder , Reflect, and Fire
Reflect is just a defensive spell. Thunder and Fire are the only offensive spells and they do nothing more than described.

>>716113796
Reflect is defensive but also offensive in the sense you reflect back magic projectiles back at enemies, it's the only way to beat one of the bosses iirc. Also it's a hard counter to wizards

>>716113740
Correct. And it's better than II. I can drop a bomb in 1 that functions as AoE damage source if I time it right near a group of enemies, and then I can use that bomb to blow up a wall that gives me access to a secret on the overworld, or a another route in the dungeon. You have to position yourself around enemies to accurately stab them like Darknuts or cheese them with the Magic Rod if you can tank enough damage. In II, you just jump, slash their head, and they die. That's about it.

>>716113795
I mean there's already an anon who missed out on the magic key ITT, it just flies over people's heads sometimes. You can kind of deduce that Spell is a transmutation spell and to spam it around town to find something that's hidden if you're used to secret hunting in games, it's actually fairly easy, but a lot of people aren't like that

>>716113945
Iron Knuckles in II are way more interesting than just having to get behind darknuts in 1. 1's combat is just problem solving and positioning , 2 has both of those and adds a bit more with needing more pattern recognition and reaction speed for projectile spam and more complex enemy movement

>>716113770
Which one? The ORIGINAL Dragon Slayer that's basically a giant block block pushing game where you have to push your house around to store coins in it? Only if you're interested in the history of video games since it was influential on super early JRPGs. Personally it's a bit too archaic for me. I really don't know much about the series as a whole though.
I can say Faxanadu is good. Xanadu Next too.

Is /v/ dying? I can't get the captcha to load without trying over and over.

>>716113795
Yeah, I'm not sure how you could miss it when there's pretty much a hint for everything in the game that requires you to use a spell or item in the world in the correct spot. Most people just start skipping NPCs because they think they say nothing of value, when in reality people in rooms or the first ones that come on screen give you blatant directions or provide a clear hint on what to do next.

I love how you talk around the virtuoso in the room.

>>716113945
>Zelda 1 combat is so good because you can like, try to hit multiple things with 1 bomb
Zelda 1 is a very good game that I underestimated for far too long, but come on man. Stop cheesing the enemies if you're upset about it making the game easier.

>>716114118
>more complex enemy movement
That only applies to the autistic retards who jump around randomly like they're on speed in the Great Palace or the Medusa Heads catching you off guard with their wavy line patterns. Everything else just walks backwards or bumrushes you.

>>716099124 (OP)
Approach this like it was the 80's. Read the manual. Don't go to faqs. If you get really stuck maybe an old nintendo power or this thread.

>>716100305
>cryptic as shit
>6 year old ESL can beat the game
I know kids in 80-90's were much more intelligent, but that just tells more about you

Zelda 1's combat is weird because it never really feels like you're actually fighting anything. Most of the enemies barely seem to react to your presence. I know that technically they have different AIs for when they just wander vs when they're actively targetting you but it really just feels like a leap to say that you're ever fighting the darknuts.
Pausing to change items around every room also feels like shit and not doing it means that you're chasing keese around with your sword which is also shit, but if you play through ZClassic or something else that adds better item management then it can be pretty fluid and fun.

>>716099124 (OP)
Put it down. Play a better game. Otherwise just know combat doesn't work and you absolutely have to just abuse the jumping-attack trick. Jump and attack on the way down and the shielded enemies won't know how to block it. Otherwise they just cheat and don't take damage even if you strike below/above their shields.
Seriously, the game is so combat focused and the combat just doesn't work. It's not worth the time unfortunately. Listen to the OST, look at the art, play another Zelda.

I love this game's atmosphere, wandering around the map, big open blue skies and sea, running through sprawling stone palaces with catchy music. I'll never understand people dismissing NES games for graphics.

>>716114171
>The ORIGINAL Dragon Slayer that's basically a giant block block pushing game where you have to push your house around to store coins in it?
To be fair I already play CDDA so that's not asking much, also yes /v/ is dying for whatever reason

>>716114535

1980s NP was bimonthly. There are more volumes of Nintendo Power from 1990 alone than the entire 1980s.

>>716114436
>Everything else just walks backwards or bumrushes you
Yeah but then there's terrain or different kinds of enemies coming at you at once with different attack patterns as well. There aren't a lot of different movement patterns enemies have but for 1987 it's not bad. There's still more movement involved in 2 than 1, 1 is all about reading patterns and positioning

>>716099124 (OP)
rush the final boss with down stabs

>>716114379
Using items in different ways is fun, yes. That's more involved than anything in II.

This is still my favorite game over screen.

>>716114379
I like using multi-layered tools that give me access to different options. I'm not saying it's "so good" (this is Zelda) but it's fun, and way better than just jump slashing everyone or spamming Thunder to blow up everything in screen that I don't need to place and time.

>>716114721
Wrong game dummy

>>716099124 (OP)
Farming blue slimes for mp drops by laving and re-entering a room can go a long way once you get the healing spell.