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Be honest /v/: what did we think of Donkey Kong Bananza? I’m kind of conflicted on it. Like it is undoubtedly an amazing game but I think I marathoned it too hard, once I got to the radiance layer things started to feel repetitive and I was waiting for the game to wrap up. But to be fair I played the fuck out of it these last few days, and I finished the main story with 520 banana gems which is not all of them but a good amount.

I just got to the forbidden layer while trying to 100% it at the same time. (I got every banandium gem and fossil from this point except one BG in one of the divides which I believed is sealed off until post game to my knowledge at least). I'm still having a blast with this game as it continues to surprise me with the many new mechanics and layers it throws diversifying the whole experience.

>>716108970
You should have left some gems behind, now you have no post game

eric

I had a pretty great time throughout, found it to be a very well paced game if you aren’t rushing/going for 100% the entire time. I just kinda did what I wanted to and saved some extras for the postgame.

The only two parts that really annoyed me were the stupid gold checks in the forbidden layer and the fucking Zebra Bananza. That thing controls like dick and I hated using it every time.

I hope we don’t have to wait much longer for a new DK game because this was overall exactly what I wanted it to be. Would love to get a rotation of 3D and 2D games going forward similar to Mario.

>>716109079
That's fine. I've been practically spending 10+ hours on this game each day since release. Even if post game is non existent the adventure I had was all worth it in the end.

>>716109262
You can bypass the gold checks in the forbidden layer. Use ostrich Bananza, find an elevated area, grab a chunk, do a spin jump, then throw the chunk down in mid air for the extra jump and fly to the closest island. And yeah the Zebra Bananza dash is a little unwieldy at first but you get used to it if you use it a lot
>>716109212
Fuck off

>>716109301
I mean you still get the bonus levels based on your forms waiting at the end once you beat it(along with an ass Champions Road equivalent which is the only sour spot this game has) so youll still have something to do.

>>716109412
I figured you could probably skip them, I just didn’t wanna miss anything potentially cool in the locale and ended up paying the very literal price for it (there was basically nothing).

It’s crazy how easy gold is to come by in the postgame. To get the restored I got isle I just spammed the Kong Bananza’s gold punch for like half an hour to get all 120k gold I needed.

The very definition of an okay game. Don't think you are meant to marathon it.

>>716108570 (OP)
The collectathon is an inherently bad game genre. It capitalizes on your baset primal desires, but there's nothing intelligent, interesting, or artistic happening. You're just checking off items on a to-do list through shallow, often mindless game mechanics. You are literally sub-human if you enjoy them.

>>716108570 (OP)
I'm only on SL600 but really like it. Amazing DK game, amazing platformer in general, etc.. Legit sovl game

I wish new donk city was a whole ass layer instead of just adding some shit to the mines. Btw what the fuck is the timeline? There’s a dialogue with Cranky in the forbidden layer where he says something about climbing girders, a clear reference to DK arcade and implies that Cranky is the OG DK… also in New Donk there is a poster called “Lady and the Kong” in the background in New Donk referencing those events… but then how is Pauline just a teenager during the events of Bananza???

>>716109715
Did you play it?

>>716108570 (OP)
I think that I won't miss seeing this thing's retarded face once the next Nintendo game comes out and you start shilling it instead.

>>716108570 (OP)
It's great, but not amazing. The concept of (almost) everything being destructible was bold, because outside of aesthetics, it makes most of the levels feel too similar.
I'm currently going for 100% having completed the base game, and sucking up entire levels as the elephant gets a bit tedious. You could blame me for taking that approach, but it's the most effective method.

Im interested in this game but I hated how repetetive and monotonous odyssey became especially how easy the game felt.
DK has always had a really nice difficulty to it but I hear this game is really easy
Would u say this game is worth it for someone like me

>>716109715
Stop acting like the game is only liked for the act of collecting shit, it also has satisfying movement and gameplay. It would be good even if there weren’t any collectibles

>>716109791
Lady from the arcade game is Pauline’s grandma, separate characters. Bananza is a prequel to Odyssey; you help Pauline write Jump Up Superstar in the postgame.

There are obviously inconsistencies with other games but Nintendo doesn’t give a shit because it doesn’t matter

>>716109807
I played Odessey and it told me everything I needed to know about the genre and tendies generally.

>>716109873
Source on Lady being different?

>>716108970
>Blast
Nice bait

>>716109872
>it would be good even if there weren't any collectibles
There would be literally nothing to do.

>>716109925
They made a Lady outfit for Pauline, recognizing the existence of someone named "Lady" to begin with

>>716109907
It has flawless controls. Satisfying movement. Fantastic art, audio, and visual design. Great attention to detail and highly interactive world where hitting or jumping on anything gives you a reaction. It just feels good to play. It’s fair to call these games toys, sure, but they’re extremely fun toys and they are toys that are built with a level of polish and ingenuity that no one else can match

>>716109958
Obviously I mean changing the gameplay to suit there being no collectibles. Like maybe make it more linear or something but keep the controls and game feel the same

>>716109869
I mean its easy in the sense of comparing it to hardcore DK games like the Rare Trilogy and Retro Duology. I believe this game is more interactive than Odyssey with its mechanics. I do also believe its harder than Odyssey especially if you never upgrade or buy any health items. I've been on three hearts for the entire game and the latter half has enemies where they can 1 or 2 shot you.

>>716109907
Ah so the answer is no, you didn't play it.

>>716108570 (OP)
I hate more than I like. the story is retarded and completely at odds with the sort of plot DK games usually have.
The visuals and art are a huge downgrade from tropical freeze, it looks like a wii game and the performance is bad too.
the voice acting is so fucking cringe and awful.
the game just has no self awareness. they try to do serious moments but they're completely undermined by the cringe VA and nu-DK pulling retarded faces every second.
this is the first DK game that's way too cringe to play infront of people.

I thought from the trailer Skill screen that there was only going to be about 500 Bananas max but it has the same collectable bloat as odyssey moons and you can literally skip every banana in this game so they feel even more worthless.
game is waaaay to easy, the platformign is lacking the combat is even more braindead than mario. Bosses are an actual joke. they're easier than odyssey. easier than anything I've played. and the world design feels very open world slop at times rather than meticulously designed with unique assets and landmarks. more often then not I'm just looking at the same bland terrain assets lazily recycled and repeated.

This is just not what I wanted. I wanted a collectathon with DK mechanics and meticulously designed worlds. not minecraft with pointless RPG mechanics because you already start the game overpowered.

>>716109715
Then good news bro, this game is literally designed for you to do just do story shit if you really wanted to. Hell, you could probably beat the mandatory missions and NOT collect the bananas they give you after the fact.
You would know that if you actually PLAYED THE FUCKING GAME, but I digress...

>>716108570 (OP)
Croc/10

>>716110049
That's all nice but it's just window dressing for an empty core experience that's only appeal is the dopermagenic desire to complete things.

>>716108570 (OP)
Just finished the main game, and had a blast.
Do I need to collect all of the bananas to get the final ending?

the challenge rooms remined me of the ones in spongebob movie game

>>716110343
You need 600. It’s basically a repeat of Odysseys postgame structure

>>716110340
What games do you prefer then?

>>716110108
I concede that it might be good if it were an entirely different game with the same art and controls. I've said the same about MGSV.

>>716109715
you don't understand how collectathons are meant to be.
play jak and dexter.
every collectable is meant to be the reward for a challenge or piece of level design.
Nintendo started just spamming you with worthless filler collectables and meaningless chores in Odyssey largely forgetting about level design. It got better in Bowsers Fury now it's gotten worse again in Bananza.

>>716109869
Well unlike Odyssey the game is designed so that you COULD make the game harder if you wanted to. Most anons here postin are collecting bananas but that shit is EXCLUSIVELY for the skill tree. You could do a run and not collect the bananas(or collect them but not use the skill tree) and not buy the costumes that give you buffs. I almost have a complete skill tree so the games probably way harder without that shit

>>716110285
tiny sure grew up

>>716110201
>this is the first DK game that's way too cringe to play infront of people
Nigger look at the shit you just typed with your own two fucking hands. You are no authority on whats fucking cringe faggot

>>716110201
you think it'd be any tougher if you just never upgrade health?

>>716110527
I'll take your word for it that this is more of a Nintendo issue than a genre issue. Odyssey is without exaggeration one of the worst games I've ever played and its popularity is bewildering to me. You would need to be basically retarded to enjoy it.

>>716110285
I can't wait to see what Donkey Kong Bananza's story has waiting for me. Something great I'm sure.

>>716110301
Kongratulations K. Rool, you have officially joined Ganon as one of the most intimidating villains in Nintendo History. Which is frankly a miracle considering your previously goofy antics and slapstick defeats.

>>716110560
As the first anon who posted here, this the build I've been rocking throughout the game. I have everything upgraded except for health shit. I only wear costumes based on how cool they look like the britches that gives you damage reduction from enemies but got rid of it to for mediocre britches from the Feast Layer (Shock Proof Britches that reduce damage from electrified or muck stuff) because they look cool.

The destructible aspect of the game is tedious and gets old quick

>DK uses new design
>Cranky is very clearly still rare design

what did they mean by this

>"I'm rotten to my core!"
Amazing. Also, why does he want to eat rotten bananas? Is it a reptile thing?

>>716111086
ive destroyed the entirety of the first three layers and i disagree

>>716111142
He's old fashioned and refuses to change.

>>716108570 (OP)
The music in this game is good but not a ton of it really stuck in my mind. Maybe I just need to exist in the areas more, but they feel much more atmospheric than catchy.

I was surprised by how somber some of the layer themes were. The divide and forbidden layer especially were my favorites in that regard

>>716111142
they probably changed dk's model to that design last second thanks to the gay movie

>>716111338
In an interview it was stated that his redesign in Bananza is what inspired his look in the movie and MKW, not the other way around

>>716111142
Same as pic related

>>716111338
Otherway around, been confirmed.
>Devs want DK to have a new design for game.
>Consult Miyamoto, get design documents that show the old arcade design
>Try to merge the Rare design and the Arcade design. Make the design that would go on to get into MKW and influence the design for the Movie
Got to remember that this game was in production for 8 years and was originally a switch 1 game.

>>716111271
Smooth...

>>716108570 (OP)
On one hand, I like King K.Rool's return. It was glorious revenge and him being stuck in the Banandium root explains why he was missing for so long. On the other hand, I just wish it wasn't Void Kong that had to be btfo'd. I actually liked his design, it had this mojo jojo energy. He's one of those enemies I would like to see return but I don't ever know if he actually will return because of how hard he got btfo'd. I kinda wish it was someone ugly looking like Lord Fredrick who had to get offed in order for K.Rool's return instead of Void.

I want to play the game but the retarded DK design puts me off.
Can you just ignore it most of the time or is it really in your face?

>>716108570 (OP)
I watched about an hour of gameplay and decided it's a baby game with nothing interesting going on.

>>716111161
Some crocodiles do let their food rot cause like its easier for them to digest and their immune systems can tank it.

But in K. Rool's case I think it's like mostly spite towards the Kongs at this point.

>>716111669
I think if you compile all the games main cutscenes for the game its less then an hour you have to look at it. Its a 3D platformer bro you are mostly just gonna see the fuck from behind.

>>716111802
Crocodiles only need to eat like once a month or something. They're cold blooded and barely move. The ultimate energy conservers.

>>716108570 (OP)
too easy

>>716111669
Every banana you collect will remind you of how fucked he looks

>>716112172
Nah easy fix for that just transform everytime you get a banana

>>716108570 (OP)
its honestly been a great destressor from dealing with absolute retards at work the past week. Just do a couple bananas here and there.
I don’t think it had the same “soul” as old DK. The levels are very nu-Mario. But they are still competently done and fun. Better than you can say about 99% of AAA in the year of our Lord

>>716112172
Eric, please stop.

>>716110747
here we see a seething tendie in denial, upset his cringe game got called cringe for its objectively terrible voice acting.

It's wild that it's been 11 fucking years since the last main console DK game. I'll be near fucking 50 by the time we get another one because I have a feeling this team will tackle Wario next.

I just got to feast layer and I love this area. I’m really liking the game but the main problems I had, with the exception of boss fights, aren’t really here so far. Liked getting every moon and this one had the first challenge level that took me a few tries (the building destruction one). I really love the movement in this game, I’m gonna replay it after I 100% it because I’ve found ways to skip every Bananza form except Kong and Elephant and I wanna do a run where I try avoiding them all.

>>716112574
You need to be gassed if you think nu-DK looks good, Darren

>>716111051
I might go back to 3 health because I got every ability I want so I’m just dumping them in health because why not. I don’t have charge slap because it looks kinda annoying.

>>716110560
Honestly yeah, I don't think the game is super hard or anything buit I'm kind of amazed at the late game difficulty spike, for a Nintendo game. Everything chunks you for whole 3 hearts. K.Rool kills you in three hits even with max hearts.

So I found it odd when people said it was baby easy or whatever. But I'm not using any clothing since I didn't like any, and I'm not using items either.

The elephant form is so funny
>silver destruction challenge
>SUCK IT UP!

>>716113323
i dont get it

>>716113431
They wanted me to use the snake for one of those but I was already in elephant so I held ZR for 2 seconds and got to 100%. Also on a battle challenge I was supposed to find a bunch of wall enemies but I just sucked everything and won. It’s the ultimate destruction ability.

>>716108570 (OP)
good, but the game needed to start with a jungle level without thorns, the lagoon should have been 2nd level

krool should have shown up halfway through the game so the kremlings have more room to shine in the later levels

needed some jungle beat and dkc bosses to return
maybe put the tikis in one layer
maybe have a level where mario is the bad guy
maybe a dkc lost world layer would be cool

music is the weakest part of the game

>>716114145
Shitty ideas except for the Kroks

>>716109843
You can do it, but why? Its more efficient to pay for maps

>>716111478
what is?

>Pauline's quote about her grandma advising to "get your throat well oiled"
She swallows

>>716114818
It just means that Nintendo is lampshading that Lady used to be Olive Oil before they had to change it because they couldn't get the license for Popeye. Actually really clever of them.

HAHAHA, I DID IT! I got to the top of Baboomtown before getting Odd Rock. I had to throw a chunk up to a girder and then Chunk jump with it, but it worked.

>>716108570 (OP)
was dk always a bean mouthed pixar face pulling monke?

>>716109925
>>716110024
There is a "Lady and the Kong: The Musical" billboard in New Donk that's presumably meant to be a play retelling the arcade game's events.

Are we back? What the fuck happened?

>>716115113
Maybe I can post this now that 4chan isn't freaking out.

It is so funny that there are still trannies on /v/ who don't understand that Bananza is easily GOTY 2025 and there's no competition whatsoever.

>>716111142
They slightly changed Cranky up during the 2000s. Same deal with Dixie and K. Rool.

>>716109551
I hate the Nintendo difficulty where they throw a long ass gauntlet at you with no checkpoints. It's not the difficulty, it's the repeating shit you've done multiple times at a shot at the part you failed on. In the enemy rush I failed the walls level like 5 times because it took me some time to work out how to beat the spike walls. I was being retarded but it was an ass experience.

funny how all the people posting 1080p screenshots are positive and all the other image resolutions are negative
what a coincidence which I'm sure has nothing to do with who actually played the game and who didn't

50 bucks 2014 game, don't get mad tendies

Just beat Void Kong for real and saw the reveal. Void Kong is a really fun boss, I beat him without taking a hit like most other bosses but it’s really fun since you’re platforming while dodging projectiles. I don’t like how K. Rool doesn’t even bother saying “DK?!” or something upon seeing us, like this game is after the DKC trilogy in which he was the main antagonist so he should bring it up.

>>716117873
I'm probably grasping at straws here but I'm pretty sure the capitalized "YOU'RE the ones who released me?" is a subtle way to show K.Rool does recognize DK.
As in, he's shocked that out of anyone who could have freed him, it was DK. Nintendo probably made it a bit ambiguous for newer players since this would be their first time meeting him despite his smash inclusion.

It's a 7/10 but tendiesnoys think it's a 10 due to being one of two games to play

>>716109715
dysgenics has really gotten out of hand

>>716109715
That guy holding a ton of shit so you can't see his face

>>716109907
>I played Odessey
I am now thoroughly convinced people seething 24/7 about Switch 2 and Switch 2 games are unwashed thirdies who could only afford Switch games because of accessible emulation / piracy and now that it's gone they're pissing and shitting themselves with uncontrollable jeet / slav rage

>>716111802
>>716111878
Yeah they realistically don't give a shit about eating anything until they're finally hungry. That's part of why K. Rool is so funny, he's just dong this to be an asshole and eat a lot.

>>716114784
O-oh,erm, her smooth soothing voice anon, yeah that

>>716110906
Genuinely subhuman post. I cannot fathom how disabled a person would have to be to dislike Odyssey. Game is enjoyable whether you're a Lucasian Professor of Mathematics or a fetal alcohol syndrome baby so you'd have to somehow be even below that.

I like it but I just wish it was more challenging

>>716119502
Never increase your health. That way every enemy in the later levels straight up one-twoshot if you ever get hit.

Despite being a silly game about monkeys and shit, I've always found the main donkey kong games to have very rich atmospheres. DKC 1, 2, 3, and sometimes 64 could be very moody or quiet, with a lot of relaxing and varied music. Is this something bonanza has? I only ever watched the first reveal trailer, and I thought the visual style was pretty bad. It has that weird white fog over everything and the environment looked really sterile. But that's all I really looked at, so I don't know if that's fair or not.

>>716119813
Forgot to mention-I'm pretty sick of the big band music nintendo has been doing lately. I'm really hoping the game isn't mostly just that.

>>716119813
It's like Odyssey. Except for one small world that has a bit of an atmosphere.

I like it. It's fun to play as a sociopathic ape who's so strong he can grab any piece of terrain and chuck it at stuff. Every piece of terrain being made of different materials that all affect the environment differently is cool as well. A lot of the little character interactions with the NPCs gets a chuckle out of me.
https://files.catbox.moe/3t8el0.mp4

>>716119813
Each world has its own layers to it, and in each layer it has a different variant of music that fits that world, so in every world you get a mix of more bombastic tracks and more chiller ambient stuff. As for the visuals of the game the worlds are actually very distinct, so even if you dont like one particular world that doesnt mean its representative of the whole game. Plus you say you didnt like that one world with the white fog? Thats like the first real level, and that white fog was really just a means to separate that section from the layer below, which has a clear horizon and a vast ocean surrounding it, most layers do not have the fog effect. The only ones that really do are the ones that have bottomless pits, the fog basically serves as a visual cue that if you are in the fog you are gonna die.

>>716118873
This has been the case for years. I hope there will never be switch 2 emulation during the console’s lifespan so they keep shitting blood for the next decade.

>>716119813
The world, despite being completely abstract, feels very real because of all the little details. Everything from DK's animations where he's slipping on walls and a scared expression on his face to destroying sand and then the ground starts to moisture because it's exposed to water. They put a shitton of little details all over the damn place.

>>716119813
>>716119859
Can confirm that the game has excellent atmosphere and detailed environments. Also, not really a lot of big band, that's a Mario thing.

I really loved it. I don't mind a fuckton of collectables and breaking shit is a lot of fun. Once I got to like 540 bananas I was kinda rushing to finish but I had over 24 hours of gameplay at that point so it wasn't a big deal

>>716108570 (OP)
this game looks like complete ass. like nintendo combined fortnite and mario odyssey, gave it the gameplay loop of some secret asia only gacha slop, then slapped donkey kong on it.

>>716120387
>>716120597
>>716120823
>>716119910
That sounds pretty cool, a lot of nintendo games seem to be afraid of being seen as anything more than toys and deliberately try to avoid being art, paper mario as an extreme example. Of course there's a ton of exceptions, and Donkey Kong has mostly been one to me. Maybe I'm up my own ass

>>716121094
It's the opposite of ass. It's bursting with testosterone like fun games should be.

i'm not spending 80€ for donkey kong regardless of how good it is

K. Rool's fat gut sticking out of the root made me laugh

>716121094
people just be saying words

>>716108570 (OP)
dude bananas, lmao

What are the best early game skills to get?

>>716109262
>I hope we don’t have to wait much longer for a new DK game
I can only wish that if Bananza's becomes successful enough that they split up lots of Mario members and create an entirely new team focused solely on DK.

>>716110201
Why is this site full of the most retarded insufferable contrarians on the planet?

>>716110201
>>716109907
this is the same person btw
you can tell that they've never even played the game and are going solely off of what they've heard other people say and the brief screenshots they've seen
what do you think causes this level of mental illness to post like this?

>>716121449
Yeah we know europoor, this isn't for you. You're subsidizing OUR tariffs because we're that much more important to Nintendo in their minds. Go smoke some donkey dick you tasteless faggot.

I played over the weekend and stopped until next Saturday. So far I'm having a great time.

>>716122697
Punching power, Sonar, Spin Jump, Surf Surf

>>716108570 (OP)
>last 6 hours: wow what a ride this has been
>last 4 hours: holy shit
>last 3 hours: HOLY SHIT
>last 2 hours: *stands up and starts soijaking*
>last hour: kinoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!

>>716108570 (OP)
Too shonen. I don't even think this can possibly pay a good homage to the old Rare games.

>>716121487
Did you get there without spoilers? Could you tell that that was him?

>>716123745
NTA but I could, was half-expecting a fakeout though I still got one technically but you know

>>716108570 (OP)
Feels good man, I enjoyed it, I love the new art direction, I love the bait and switch with the main antagonist, I loved that whole end segment especially listening to the Gangplank Galleon remaster while riding a torrent of bananas back up to the surface watching the layer count tick down, I love the small details like the game counting how high up you are once you hit the surface, I love the intermission segments between worlds, I didn't really care for Pauline but that's how I always feel about kids in games who just talk non-stop, it's nothing against her personally.
I'd say the only real criticism I have against the game is the graphics, but pretty much mainly DK's fur, it's underwhelming, but it's understandable why this is the case, and it's because of the terrain, and the way they handle it is just so much ahead of everything else I've seen, most other games I've seen using this sort of system still end up laid out in a grid or you get random staring when it decides to draw diagonally, this game can use it's voxels to skew any arbitrary angle allowing curves and sharp edges to form within the terrain, they really outdid themselves, and whatever they are doing isn't easy, but more importantly it isn't going to be cheap on the GPU and CPU, so while I don't like the fur it's clear they had to balance things because gameplay was the priority here, and even then it's still beyond 1080p at 60fps most of the time.
I hope this game does well so Nintendo see's a financial incentive to invest in more Donkey Kong, I hope we see a sequel to this since there's still a lot more you can do and I hope we get more 2d DK.

>>716118873
You're take is hilarious and it wouldn't surprise me.

>>716122697
>Most useful
Bananergy
Better Inhaling (Elephant)
Stronger Lungs (Elephant)
Glide (Ostrich)
Better Flutter (Ostrich)
Punch

>Personal Favorites
2 Canned Apples
2 Sonar
1 heart
2 Melon Juice
2 Drumbeat

>Most useless
Spin Jump
Charge Slap

Everything else is mid more or less

The most kino layer was the glow cave (first half)

>>716108570 (OP)
I'm not going to buy it or any Nintendo product.

Female monkeys have nano vaginas because male monkeys have micro dicks.

Enter the human penis.

>this game is pretty easy :(
>check their health bar
>like 10 hearts

>Pauline mentions cactus steak
that feels like a kind of out there food for a 13 yo new dorker to mention
Pauline confirmed mexican

>>716125296
>it's because of the terrain, and the way they handle it is just so much ahead of everything else I've seen
I think the most impressive thing about this game is the world never resets even when you go through another subarea. All the terrain you destroy and all the objects you interact with stay exactly where they are. Also holy shit are the transformations songs good. I wish I wasn't spoiled on K.Rool because watching him show up and the entire finale would have blown my mind. They wanted to make DK into the ultimate power fantasy and they nailed it.

>>716126029
>>Most useless
>Spin Jump
How? Spin Jump in combination with the double jump gives you lots of extra height.

>>716108570 (OP)
One of the greatest games of all time, greatest collectathon. When I saw the trailer at first I was disappointed it wasn't 3D Mario but now in a weird way I wonder how they're even gonna beat this. Can't wait for the next DK

>kremlings can be in mario games again
i see this as an absolute win

i just played for 4 hours straight and got to the third layer
how is this game so fun

need a knucles game where he runs around destorying shit too

nice and responsive controls
destruction is fun
there’s barely any platforming which is gay as fuck
8/10

>>716128296
also: the bananzas are unintuitive and kinda gay. never used them unless I had to

>>716108570 (OP)
I'm taking my sweet time with it. Only on layer 300

>>716108570 (OP)
I have played ~45 hours since the minute of release. I have over 950 bananas and have 100%'d it aside from the records and skill tree
it is pure FUN served up on an immaculately polished platter. the platforming and movement are excellent, the terrain destruction mechanic is hilarious and satisfying, sounds design is amazing, and the level design is phenomenal
I went in with high expectations because this is EPD 8. IMO they are the premier game studio in the world right now. they are the best of the best, and they know how to make a game that is consistently FUN from beginning to end. my expectations have absolutely been met, and in some cases, exceeded

the only real criticisms I can give it are that the camera is a little wonky, and performance can be a little shitty with some pop-in and framerate drops when doing certain things, but that's really about all I've got. easy 9/10

>>716108570 (OP)
>what did we think of Donkey Kong Bananza?
Technically impressive.
Garbage contents.
Dumpster fire art direction.
Worthless music.
Pants on head retarded treatment of the DK character

>it is undoubtedly an amazing game
It is undoubtedly a garbage game helmed by top tier devs who set out to make a game for themselves while looking down at the players.

>>716125296
>I didn't really care for Pauline
I feel this but honestly, I found pauline pretty inoffensive compared to some of the AAA slop I've played. pauline gives you an exclamatory remark every now and again, but I kept thinking back to the Horizon games where aloy talks to herself (read: the player) like you're a fucking retard. "hm, maybe I can use that ladder to get up." yeah, no shit sherlock, it's covered in yellow paint and the developers put lighting on it for the express purpose of communicating to me that this is what I need to interact with. "maybe I can climb that big dinosaur to get a better look at the area." oh, like I've done 4 times now, one of which was a tutorial? and the thing is marked on the map? oh, wow, please tell me more about how you need to hold my hand through everything

in contrast, pauline is relatively quiet and actually helped me in a couple of cases where she was like "oh a banana!" I had to stop and be like "wait, where?" she told told me to "move!" or "look out!" a few times that alerted me to a projectile coming my way which was actually helpful, and she's cute and likable enough that I didn't mind taking her around on my back for the whole game

>>716120823
>the game has excellent atmosphere
The art direction looks like it was made with AI, it's visually pure nonsensical slop.

>>716130293
Post your Switch 2 and savefile with playtime.

>>716130393
the save file doesn’t show playtime retard

>>716130393
>guy tried to out someone as not having played the game
>outs himself as not having played the game
Fucking lol

>>716108570 (OP)
It's the real GotY. Not the fake Goty like E33.

>>716133129
No one here plays video games

>>716108570 (OP)
its shovelware, you can get a similar experience from indie devs on steam and it would only cost you 5 to 10 bucks.

>>716108570 (OP)
>what did we think of
past tense? It’s only been out for a couple days right. Most people haven’t finished it

>>716133129
I'm waiting.

>>716131261
you can see your playtime for the game in your profile, retard. You don't even own a Switch.

>>716133846
that’s why I know the save file has no play time but the date when it was created, right

>>716113115
I think the people saying it's baby easy didn't get to the end parts of the game. For a Nintendo game it's both kind of hard and also has an abrupt difficulty spike. Nothing you can't overcome as an adult but I can imagine the kid target audience playing this and crying/having a bad time/needing dad's help

>>716134463
I meant to say
*kind of long and has an abrupt difficulty spik

>>716134062
I'm still waiting. If you have a Switch 2, post your savefile with your playtime. Why is that hard, because you don't have it?

>>716130157
shill/bot reply

>>716111461
>merge 2 designs that were going for completely different personality
Why does miyamoto hate rare DK so much anyway.

>>716135820
Bro he just oversaw the construction of an entire theme park centered around the Rare/Retro DK design.

I do not understand where the idea that he hates the design comes from

>>716108570 (OP)
still replaying octopath 2 so i haven't actually opened the game yet but SEX with donkey kong

>>716108570 (OP)
Worse than dk64

>>716135985
Rarenigger retardation. All the cool things Rare did add to DK makes me wish Nintendo would never use them just to spite them.

I think it would have been hilarious if Bowser was the last boss, just to see how many people it would piss off.

>>716108570 (OP)
Poppy Kong is our nonbinary theyboss kweeen and I stan them!

>>716130157
I just don't like the trope, but you make a good point about the way that developers coddle the player.

>>716136673
but the game calls her female

>>716136785
I can appreciate the dislike of the tropey-ness. a lot of people really want her to just stfu and I get it, but for the most part I feel like she stays out of your way

>>716108570 (OP)
I do not understand how people blast through games at launch.

Pace yourselves retards, most games are not meant to be played from start to finish.

>>716108570 (OP)
Good game
Just not a DK game

>>716137361
So, I feel the same could be said for Mario 64 if you were playing it in 1996, about it being a good game, but not a good Mario game because it was so different than all entries prior. DK only had one entry prior, and it seems to be universally panned as an "Alright at best, boring at worst" game. They had to reinvent what a "Donkey Kong" game is in 3D, as the last 3D one was something to avoid copying, and the 2D gameplay wouldn't really work in 3D.

>>716137361
There are no rules on what a DK game should be. DKC is nothing like Jungle Beat besides being 2D platformers. DK '94 is nothing like DK64. What is a DK game?

The camera sucks and that's the only issue I have with this game. It's the best 3D platformer ever made outside of that.

>>716137756
>What is a DK game?
It’s not bananza, that’s for sure

>>716138670
>>716130393

>>716122697
Double jump and spin jump enable doing trick jumps and unintended skips
Collecting and sonar if you want to try to full clear the levels as you progress (they suck at no upgrades so at least 1 level in each is nice)
Punch power you basically just get your punch power 1 level above the terrain strength you're currently on as you go through the game
Bananergy is the best upgrade, faster drumming is just a qol upgrade
Health and juice upgrades aren't necessary, but enemies and hazards can do annoying amounts of damage later on
Turf surfing kinda sucks since it's unwieldy and other movement options are better, but there are some areas where having the upgrades is nice

For the forms,
Faster charge (Kong)
Zebra upgrades are fairly useless
Glide and better flutter (Ostrich)
All inhaling upgrades (Elephant)
Charged double jump (Snake)

>>716134062
just stop coping and post your playtime, if you don't you're a faggot

>>716108570 (OP)
I got everything and I don't think it ever got repetitive. Every layer, hell every sublayer had new ideas and mechanics and it was just awesome.

>>716117873
>>716118605
I felt this way, too, but then I realized K. Rool has never addressed any Kong by name. Only ever refers to them by monkey slurs.

>>716108570 (OP)
I did everything on each layer as I went through and loved it. It does get repetitive but I made the choice to do everything so I can only blame myself.
I'd put it up there with DKC2 and DKC

>>716136467
I was kinda hoping they'd throw in Mario at the end to do a little reference to DK Arcade. Have Cranky roll up next to him and say "Wrong Donkey Kong."

>>716108570 (OP)
I'm disappointed in the villains. Voidco fucking suck and I can't take them seriously at all.

I really like Pauline Jr.'s scat singing

>>716142083
don't say that you'll give them ideas

>>716142083
Bananza themes been stuck in my head for days.

Pauline is hot

>>716143037
I still haven't decided which is my favorite. I think it's currently kong > snake > ostrich > zebra > elephant

How do i get the sixth banana in the circuit level? Do i need to beat Diddy and Dixie in a specific time?

>>716108570 (OP)
>Elephant power really breaks the game so things where you can just dig to win became boring.
>Bananza music though great did get repetitive since there's almost no reason to not be bananza all of the time
>Final layer needed more dkc/krool theming
>Level music could be better and tempest zone was just diarrhea sounds
First initial thoughts were I would be having more fun just playing dkc games. It does have some fun moments, but every game that apes botw is going to be flawed from the start

>>716144884
the one under the podium?
cranky is hanging out in there. if you're looking straight at it, destroy all the terrain on the right side and you should find an entrance

I like Dixie Kong

>>716108570 (OP)
>Finished main story with 383 bananas
>all this post-game now

I'm glad I didn't go through every area super thoroughly, personally. I don't feel like I rushed but I did have a bit of a brisk pace.

>>716146859
the whole racing layer is criminally underused

If I didn't max out my health and used lots of items k.rool would have kicked my ass, this shit wasn't easy

>>716137756
The only real DK games are the original arcade and DKC 1-3

>>716147696
>rareniggershit
>real DK
Nope.

I don’t like how all the NPCs were bigger than DK

>>716108570 (OP)
Cool tech that annihilates level design. There's way too much freedom and not enough friction.

Took me 45 hours to complete the game by 100%ing every layer before I went further.
I teared up a little during the end credits.

>>716148583
honestly same. I was just in awe that nips are still capable of making genre-defining games of this caliber

>>716108570 (OP)
I just want more games like DK Returns and DK Tropical Freeza. I fucking hate disney Ralph and Mario Odyssey. It will never be the same because of them.

>canyon layer
>giraffe stuff everywhere
>the expedition monument mentions giraffe people
>no giraffe people. Just fractals that look like giraffes

Uh did they kill all the giraffe people?

The ideal DK game for me
>Exploration and level design of DK64
>Platforming of Country
>Combat of Jungle Beat
>ALSO combat of Bananza. TLDR you can punch dudes and if you counter properly that opens them up to a beatdown

>>716149713
One of the quiz stones mentions giraffes too (I think on the planet core layer somewhere), but says they live on the surface

>>716149713
Yes

The 2d challenge levels reminded me we could have a nice modern 2D DK game if we get one not made by Retro "turning DK into NSMB levels of repetitiveness" studios

>>716148723
lol grow up

>>716149713
It’s mentioned that giraffes and lions did use to live down there but moved to the surface

Favorite layer?

>>716150220
Don’t know what anyone saw in that company anyway. They tried to make harmony a thing

the cosmetics suck. just give me a color slider for dk's fur and tie.

>>716150220
>a nice modern 2D DK game if we get one not made by Retro "turning DK into NSMB levels of repetitiveness" studios
tell me you didnt play Tropical Freeze without telling me you didnt play Tropical Freeze.

>>716108570 (OP)
I think the one thing that seriously annoys me about DK games including Bananza is that the animal anthros growl instead of having voices to speak with. I liked how Bowser in Mario Sunshine actually had a voice and same to his son. I think Nintendo should have continued that. Doesn't help we've seen thanks to the Mario movie from illumination that animal characters like Cranky Kong CAN speak the human tongue.

So its really annoying to see Pauline speak human languages but the animals can't talk. It's a needless complication that Nintendo created what's the problem? Nintendo has done talking animals before like in Animal Crossing and Star Fox so what is the excuse here?

Bananza and Retro's DK games are both good

Feel like a fun Collecthathon, but I dont like the whole "spam sonar" thing. I'm running a full discovery build right now and rushed full Sonar at the start.

>>716108570 (OP)
It’s fun and addictive. I like my switch 2 even though /v/ told me to hate it. I don’t think the screen is that bad for an LCD and it doesn’t feel as heavy as the deck after using handheld for a while. Also I’ve only heard the fan once and it was super quiet while the deck fan is not quiet, especially when it ramps up.

>>716141815
Void co. to me were good in that they further expand on the civilization of the Kongs. We know that thanks to Funky the Kongs specialize in industries like travel. And Funky also sells arms and weapons. So thought that Void specializing in mining for minerals was a neat expansion of Kong society.

>>716110906
64 and sunshine literally did what that anon was talking about. Obviously there's a few outliers like 100 coin star and some others, but Jak also did it with some orbs being "give me 100 things and I'll give u an orb". So long as most of them are a reward for a fun challenge or platforming section, it's fine.

I wish Amiibo gave special costumes to Pauline. Imagine having an Olimar costume, Samus costume, Bowser costume

Would be cute.

>>716151072
the animals not talking is soul fuck off

>>716151371
Imagine having a micro-bikini costume.

>>716108570 (OP)
Got a better question how much has Bananza sold so far?

And speaking of sales what about Mario Kart World's sales? With the update killing the Random trick I don't think its selling that grandiose.

>>716110527
Collecthaton having been stuff like that since Banjo Kazooie. Sure, some were behind Mini games, but you still had random Jiggys at some places. The problem with Bananza is that the random ones are really easy to access since you can punch stuff out of the way, at least in the early levels. But there is still a lot of Mini games in Bananza and puzzles.

>>716150750
radiance probably, but it's really hard to choose

>>716151109
I don’t think anyone hates on TF.

>>716151484
That's not a better question...

https://youtu.be/2NbHbvhyCBA?si=QdFlVsSAxKfYRgPi
I haven't been able to get this whimsical shitass theme out of my head for the past 3 days
it even persists while I'm trying to get off

>>716152018
Well if these games don't sell well Nintendo is not going to fund the budget necessary to keep making them. So again how much has Bananza and Mario Kart World sold?

>>716138670
>>716147696
lol shut up

>>716138670
I think its time for gamers to be forced to learn that gaming franchises are able to evolve beyond their old genres. Refusing to evolve is how a gaming brand dies. Of course don't sloppily make arbitrary changes to a franchise because that's how you get Star Fox a mess.

>>716152223
Banjo-Kazooie ass music.
Banjo-Kazooie ass level.
Banjo-Kazooie ass game.

Yeah I'm in my 30s and slowing down a little and I'm loving the game but only play in bursts. Really Nintendo wants you to integrate the games into your life healthily and they do make them very pick up and go-able. I think it's a good design philosophy and if you're feeling conflicted about marathoning it too hard maybe it's not because the game but because of what else you're not getting while marathoning.

>>716152862
This is what most companies don't want to admit that as people age they do lose the interest in gaming. Gaming isn't like watching movies where you sit back doing nothing. Gaming requires engagement and input. The novelty eventually starts wearing off and your time becomes limited for gaming as life demands your attention.

>>716152862
>they do make them very pick up and go-able.
The result of combing their handheld and console divisions. Best decision they have ever made since the teams at EPD have been better than ever.

>>716153023
I have noticed with age how disrespectful games are to my time. I actually get offended at this point with padding and will just stop playing a game over it. If it's getting over 50 hours from me it's a very good game.

But I haven't lost interest in cinema and art, actually those have grown. I'm less and less impressed by flashing lights, doodads, and effects, but I'm becoming more impressed when I can feel the creator's passion bleeding through the work and the weight of generations of knowledge passed through a craft. I do feel that way about some games but it's a very small number.

I cant wait for the slop reviews to come in on this:
>you see here, theres a floating platform with a banana on it
>I spent hours trying to trickjump my way up to it, and I succeeded, but then I saw an 8 year old just throw a rock at it and it fell down to him, now I feel like a retard
>This is objectively bad design because good design makes me feel smart, bad design exposes me for being stupid.
>im just tired of nintendo giving these "open ended puzzles"
I give it six months before all the 4 hour rageout seethe critiques start releasing.

We need another Yoshi Island game where teen Mario and Luigi ends up back up with the Yoshis.

>>716153483
real I just did this yesterday for like 15 minutes then my wife was like, why don't you just go around? I wasn't mad though.

>die in the final battle
>pause game
>finger slips
>"Return to Planet Core"
>what
>oh
>oh fuck
>close game, re-open
>back at planet core
Didn't take long to run through the final stage again, but still.

>>716153483
>tired of nintendo giving these "open ended puzzles"
Some people simply do not understand 3D level design, despite being a concept for 30 years now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxAQ_hEodKY

Zebra!
Zebra!
Zebra!

>>716108570 (OP)
there is just so much level design you can do when the premise is "you can destroy everything!" the fact that is just not a piece of shit games is more to the Nintendo experience rather than the core mechanics.

>>716153971
Explain what level design means.

>>716111271
i have the zebra soundtrack stuck on my head

HELP

I finally went out and got a switch 2, specifically the mario cart world bundle as well as this game. So right now it's those two + the zelda upgrades and I'll give windwaker a shot on the gamecube. When is DK 64 comming?

>>716154167
Ooohh zebra Zebra ZEBRA

>>716153621
Its the opposite for me, I think ive played games for too long because I seem to always sus out the intended solution, but she only recently started playing games and she finds the most absurd ways to finish puzzles.

>>716153775
The consequences of what they ask are literally 3d games stuck on 2d planes. even if you can technically move around in 3d, every single puzzle would need to exist with a hallway. Its fucking insane.
Theres a reason why oot's "puzzles" literally occur in corridors or amount to no more than applying an obtained item to a given switch (vidrel), because the more dimensions you give to a puzzle, the more factors you must account for, and the harder it is to keep consistency in experience.

I also notice that people will complain about a new game using old designs that they champion in the context of the old design.
The most obvious and glaring example is with zelda, gold skultullas are everything that people hate about koroks but actually MORE obtuse.
Or how about the ascend ability functioning (as in the end result) exactly like a hookshot used to, the only difference is that one has a big glaring sign saying "use hookshot here" and the other you have to first think of using it, then fight a spot where it will work.
OoT repeats the goddess story two or three times in a 4-5 minute unskippable cutscene, but a skipable cutscene of the ancestor champions repeating 3 times (I assume youd watch it the first time) is too much?

>>716154167
I keep cycling through different bananza themes.
This soundtrack is just full of ear worms.

>>716154934
Nostalgia is a mental illness, you can't get though with them.

>>716154167
ZEBRA ZEBRA ZEBRA ZEBRA

>>716150940
I own Tropical Freeze on both Wii U and Switch.

>>716155432
The trick to defeating the nostalgiapill is to have a shit childhood you hate remembering, I'm working as hard as I can to make these gen alphas miserable their entire formative years so that hopefully one day we can get new IPs again.

>>716155432
I might have my timeline wrong, but wasnt nostalgia removed from manual of mental disorders in the 60s, when everything started going to hell?
In the renaissance they literally considered nostalgia to be a disease, I want to go back.

>>716155671
I don't think that will work. You can still have a shit childhood and be nostalgic over bad games you played as a kid.

Sex with Ostrich Elder.

>>716155886
Then why not give them no childhood? Can’t be nostalgic over a bad game if they never played any to begin with

>>716155635
Then how is it "NSMB levels of repetitiveness"?

>>716155671
lol, based.
I dont know how I avoided it, I had a good childhood, but I straight up hate the games from back then. I tried replaying OoT, Goldeneye, mario 64, jet force gemini, etc and I hated them all, the controls were just fucking abysmal for all of them, and it all felt like if I wasnt fighting the controls so much the game would be complete babyshit.
I have a greater love for NES games I never played and came out before I was even born than the shit I actually played as a kid, and it frustrates me that so many people seem to be lying to themselves about those sloppy games. It makes me think nostalgia really is a mental disorder because I cant see how else someone would claim "I replay ___ every year and its literally perfect and holds up in every way"

Despite the spoiler, the way they introduced K Rool and how the fight ends in NDC was kino, probably the best "last boss" in the history of Mario IPs

>>716155962
You leave Expresso alone.

>>716155886
That's why I'm putting them to work in a factory

>>716156221
Isnt mario a DK IP? Donkey kong arcade came out a couple of years before the first mario.

>>716108570 (OP)
Tropical Freeze is the better DK game. Banaza is an alright DK game. DK64 had better music and so did Tropical Freeze, the music in Banaza didn't feel like DK music at all. I think the hole digging thing wore itself off pretty quickly and there really isn't much platforming compared to like DK64.

>>716156292
Who is gonna stop me?

>>716155671
I have a weird relationship with nostalgia because I feel it but not for most vidya

>>716156498
>there really isn't much platforming compared to like DK64.
lol
TF and DKB are completely different types of games, there's no "DK game" retard.

>>716156498
Did you get past the first 2 or 3 areas?

>>716156498
>64
>platforming
I love the game, but fucking WHAT platforming?

>>716150750
I think Junkyard is the worst but its not "bad". I think I enjoyed Forest the most

>>716156775
you remember in the first level, inside the mine where you have to reach the top with wheels and bottoms? I do and I have a core memory from that part because of how shit it was.

I like DK64's exploration

>>716150750
Feast has such a unique feel to it, like a nicer witchyworld, but still has that underlying slimy, creepy vibe that tends to come with fastfood/amusement park levels, obviously capped off with the underground facility section. And the fact that it comes so late in the game after more beautiful and natural areas is just so jarring, in a good way. You play through the entire thing waiting to see what shocking, threatening plot development is going to happen, and it sort of doesn't. It feels like a sort of last visit to a childhood memory. Then it's followed up with these solemn, quiet, mysterious areas, and it just gives the previous stage more mystery.

Needless to say, I like it

WE'RE BREAKING THROUGH
DOWN TO THE CORE
NO STOPPING US
NOT ANYMORE

The bosses were probably the most boring part about Banaza, outside of the final boss I guess.

>>716154934
I think OoTs puzzles are a bit more straightforward and more satisfying for some to experience due to there being a single solution/answer to certain puzzles.
They leverage that linearity to make the process of figuring out the answer "interesting".
Whereas with a more open design you have to account for a wider range of possible solutions.
Its definitely more freeform
and it lets players feel like they though outside of the box when they dont use the intended components or steps for the puzzle like you see in a lot of shrines in BoTW and ToTK.
But that isnt necessarily something compelling to those looking to engage with a puzzle, as just being able to ignore the intended solution with tools that give players a wide swath of pathways to breaking the premise of the puzzle makes the satisfaction from solving it feel shallow, less elegant, and less memorable imo.
Like, you're not learning and applying a concept the devs are trying to teach you, you're just possibly forcing similar answers to different problems.
Not nearly as satisfying imo.
That and dungeon themeing and patterns are abysmal compared to something like Skyward Sword and MM.
They end before they really get the most out of their gimmicks/mechanics.
Also
>OoT repeats the goddess story two or three times in a 4-5 minute unskippable cutscene, but a skipable cutscene of the ancestor champions repeating 3 times (I assume youd watch it the first time) is too much?
Yes it is too much when thats all you have for info related to the main plot.
Older games had more plot relevant beats and cutscenes outside of the goddess story that built an interest in them. ToTK did not.

>>716154934
>I also notice that people will complain about a new game using old designs that they champion in the context of the old design.
The most obvious and glaring example is with zelda, gold skultullas are everything that people hate about koroks but actually MORE obtuse.I also notice that people will complain about a new game using old designs that they champion in the context of the old design.
The most obvious and glaring example is with zelda, gold skultullas are everything that people hate about koroks but actually MORE obtuse.
Are you high? This is a terrible point lmao

People complain about Korok seeds primarily because

>There's way too many of them
There aren't nearly as many skulltulas
>The rewards are shit
>Skulltulas give a great reward by increasing your wallet size
>Many of them are hidden in extremely esoteric ways
All Skulltulas have an audio game and are physically out there. They may be hidden but they don't pop up out of nowhere when you spin in a circle or something

Like genuinely I don't get your point. People are fine with searching and looking for things, it's the fact that new games make the old designs WORSE that people take issue with.

>>716157613
>>716157875
I'm impressed at how stupid people can write so much and yet be wrong about everything.

>>716157516
I liked Void Kong's fights but other than that yeah the bosses were nothing to write home about

>>716157976
So you don't have a point.
Then fuck off with your disingenuous grandstanding you poser

>>716108570 (OP)
Why is DK so fucking ugly and orange in this game, why doesn't his fur just look similar to the game renders.

>>716158720
I wasn't the original anon. I was going to reply seriously until I read your second post and you unironically typed out:
>skulltulas are good because... Nintendo added the shitty wallet mechanic to Zelda for no reason
I can't take you casual idiots when you type this shit out. It's laughable when you pretend you understand game mechanics and level design in vidya.

>>716111035
The King of Rot form has to be one of the most unsettling Nintendo final bosses I've ever seen. Inb4 I get hit with that Spongebob rollercoaster image.

>>716111621
Same. I wish he'd have come back during the Bananium Tower boss fight, serving as an additional threat while scuffling with K. Rool

>>716153483
I don't mind open ended puzzles but these are just way too easy to do, no matter how you do them. I have yet had to think while playing this but I suppose all the hard challenges are in the endgame like they were in Odyssey.

>>716157516
I expected it since the boss fights in oddsey felt flat to me too. The poppy Kong" fight" was a joke and most of the other fights felt like I was cheating by using the Bananaza power. I did like the void Kong fight the first time and k. Rool was cool when he's not just spamming the blunderbuss. I think they should try incorporate more platforming into the boss fights since the combat is so basic in these games.

>>716158910
>>716158910
>The King of Rot form has to be one of the most unsettling Nintendo final bosses I've ever seen.
Thats because K. rool went full insane mode. He doesn't normally get or look that joyful and happy unless he knows he is a unstoppable force.

>>716108570 (OP)
I just beat the fat croc. Fucking solid 9/10, definitely my new favorite 3D platformer.

>>716111035
>>716158910
Meh

>>716111035
>most intimidating villains in Nintendo History.
This isn't really praise with what he's up against. He's still way to goofy looking that I can't take him seriously and I'd say Kirby villains are more threatening to me.

>>716160624
yeah because Kirby villains are literal Nightmares

>No spider bananza
Bros...

>>716127885
You can basically get the same height by just double tapping ZL at the peak of a jump and momentarily turf surfing.

>>716161304
He can already climb walls, and creating platforms midair would be way too busted, even for this game

>>716158910
Nurgle.

>>716161490
To add: this also is way better for covering big horizontal distances. The only advantage spin jumping has is that it is better in a tighly enclosed area.

Is there bananza elephant trunk suction vore yet? Not gay, just morbidly curious

>>716158910
>what if K. Rool but fat ugly bastard

>>716158770
I think his fur changes based on lighting. In darker areas its the same brown but something with the light hitting it makes it red. In your pic it's going on too but with big CGI models they can be subtle but the more simplistic in game models it exaggerates it

I hate how repetitive this feels. Just beat the freezer and jungle layers and the structure is super formulaic so far.

>>716158910
I do kinda like the design. Could see it as some sort of voodoo king of the swamp thing.

>we

Anon most people on this board don't even own a Switch 2, and a large portion of the posters in this thread have never played the game. Why do you care about their opinions?

>>716161813
Would we get that before the snake?

You are supposed to use the purple fur and pretend that you are playing as bonzibuddy
That's what they redesigned him for

>>716158910
It's because it looks like fetish shit

I've already 100%'d the game but I'm seriously considering doing another playthrough...

>people say it's not odyssey 2
>play it
>it's odyssey 2
I mean I liked odyssey

>>716162516
It's only similar to Odyssey

>>716110527
It makes me a bit sad that it feels like they didn't really learn from Odyssey. Bananas are worse than moons in my opinion since for one, the animation is longer and you have to manually break them, while moons, although common, at least are quickly picked up.
I also miss the differently colored moons

The biggest problem with this game is that the levels are too abstract, theme-wise. They feel like Mario level, not DK levels.

>>716162874
>Bananas are worse than moons
Wrong. Bananas are better than Moons and don't function like Moons at all in the first place.

>dk64 references every minute
>didn't add it to nso
what did they mean by this

>>716162915
>that the levels are too abstract, theme-wise
I liked that. It means they can go all over the place with a bunch of different ideas and make the game weird. Which is cool.

reminder if you upgraded your health you didn't beat the game

>>716162759
I think it is Odyssey 2.
It clearly takes place after Odyssey.

wokey kong

>>716164698
On a surface level it's similar to Odyssey. It doesn't actually play like Odyssey outside of being 3D platformer. And even then that's wrong because it's not a pure 3D platformer, but an action one.

>>716109412
eric

>>716164698
No it doesn't retard.

>>716157875
>>The rewards are shit
>>Skulltulas give a great reward by increasing your wallet size
How the living fuck is 3 wallet increases better than dynamically increasing you weapon/bow/shield slots? How the actual real fuck?

>>716162915
If anything they felt like Banjo-azooie levels to me. That fast food level especially

poor little monke boy

>>716161304
Find the giant fossil in the forest, anon... We'll always love him.

>>716156675
what video is this from?

I just got to the layer past the split which seems to be the halfway point, so I went back to do the other layer I skipped. It's fucking great so far. Smashing shit is always fun and they keep things interesting enough. Too bad spoilers got plastered everywhere so I won't be surprised when K.Rool shows up, but god damn now I'm excited to get there.

>>716165435
Because who GIVES a fuck about that when you can use basically any weapon whenever you want? When I played I just stuck to a handful of good weapons and then used the master sword for anything that was a jobber. You don't need anything more which is why almost no one fucking bothers with the korok seeds

You are actually limited by the wallet size in OoT so freeing it is a good reward. You are never more than 2 minutes away from some weapon that will be good enough to get the job done in Nu-Zelda

>>716166059
>Because who GIVES a fuck about that
>You are actually limited by the wallet size in OoT so freeing it is a good reward
I'm dying of laughter.

I'm on level 8 and this game just makes me want to play DKC and DK64. Odyssey at least went hard on the spectacle and gimmicks to make up for the simple gameplay. I love DK but I think this game will be forgotten in a month. I hope I'm wrong and it gets better

>>716165883
based video game enjoyer

>>716150913
It feels like they should have hat more hats.

>>716148935
christ just fucking kill yourself already
you have two games worth of content to playthrough, plus the original series. i hate people like you that want to cuck everyone of any new experience ever because you need them to instead shit out endless sequels of the same fucking game over and over

>>716166059
>You are actually limited by the wallet size in OoT
Jesus, this has to be satire.
>I HATE muh weapons breaking!
>nooo carrying more and in more varieties with me is dumb!
>but having more money in a game where is unnecessary and plentiful? Amazing!

>>716169132
You're also forgetting that LoZ and LttP doesn't have a wallet mechanic and he probably thinks it does because OoT invented Zelda games after all.

>>716158886
The second post wasnt me either, guess misunderstandings go both ways, fool.

>>716170663
Okay, you genuinely made me laugh again.

>>716135820
That first DKC Concept Sketch (1993) looks like DK crossed with the Battletoads

>>716157380
Haha she did the thing, oh that Pauline

>>716154934
>I also notice that people will complain about a new game using old designs that they champion in the context of the old design.
A lot of games commonly championed as among the best of all time thrive on these sorts of arbitrary double standards, I think it's a circular logic sort of thing where once a game has been reputationally set in stone as a classic for long enough that's eventually used as reasoning for why it's (allegedly) so good
New Vegas is one of the biggest beneficiaries of this sort of thing imo, it's maybe the only game I like where I feel instinctively inclined to disagree with any instance of praise for it because that praise almost invariably comes at the expense of another game which is clearly better than it in many ways

>>716171853
It's very funny because LttP wasn't about being wholly deterministic with clear-cut solutions only but OoToddlers champion that for some reason.

>>716158910
k.rool went from king to pirate to scientist to mystical abomination, the guy loves his costumes

>>716111621
I think Poppy mentions that Void's still alive and working on some new scheme or something in the post-game
On that note I hope Poppy and Grumpy hang around as allies. I also think it's interesting how Void is, to my recollection, the only Kong whose name doesn't end in Y (Barring the likes of Fedora Kong and Redneck Kong who never actually made it into a game)

>>716166568
It doesn't get better. Just dust of your old retros or emulate them, you'll have more fun, promise.

>>716157613
>Like, you're not learning and applying a concept the devs are trying to teach you, you're just possibly forcing similar answers to different problems.
There isnt a difference.
If two people set out to build a jigsaw puzzle, and one starts with the middle and one starts with the outside, who is right?
Keep in mind that the solution is not different, the solution is the same every time, but the work is different.

I want to draw attention to SS since you bring it up, and how it handles the eye switches. In previous games the eye switch is activated by shutting the eye via attacking it, but even before its overused, it is unfortunately subverted by early establishment of the rules, and tricks you into feeling smart:
>stuck in a room
>eye high on wall
>just got ranged item
you dont think "Oh, if I hit the eye it will shut, wonder what happens then?", you think "well thats my only option" then afterwards say "oh i get it, you hit it and it shuts"
Meanwhile SS plays things straight:
>you are not stuck
>the eye is closed
>it opens and follows your sword
>by using the logic you already obtained from the trope, you confuse the eye and it opens the door.
It was hardly a perfect implementation, but its a perfect example of how SS has consistently and significantly better puzzles than something like oot, yet its maligned in the series for them specifically (along with the linear gameplay that then gets reversed in botw only to also be bitched about)

>>716157875
>There aren't nearly as many skulltulas
>Skulltulas give a great reward by increasing your wallet size
There are 100, they stop giving worthwhile rewards less than halfway through (giants wallet@30), the final one just gives you unlimited rupees which dont mean shit because theres nothing to spend it on at that point
however, unlike koroks, which you ONLY NEED TO COLLECT AS FAR AS YOU NEED INVENTORY SPACE, the skultulas require specific conditions to find them, including day/night cycles.

>>716108570 (OP)
>we
shut up

Were the Pig fossils in the Forest Layer the only reference to Retro-era DK?

>>716158910
>The King of Rot form has to be one of the most unsettling Nintendo final bosses I've ever seen.
thats because you've been tortured on the internet by big belly furry bullshit.
I literally see krool and think "fuck, someone wanks to this exact image"

>>716109079
It depends, I finished the game the day before yesterday and I haven't played it since. I feel less inclined to play when I finished the game. I got all the interesting ones as far as I know, probably only missed a few challenge rooms.

>>716165883
Spoilers are an unfortunate side effect of the internet

>>716173541
that's all they deserve t b h. Fun games but the enemies were so forgettable

>>716169375
If they ever stopped pretending LoZ didnt exist, I wonder how they would cope with the puzzles in that game.
>wtf this puzzle is trash, the only way to solve it is to randomly guess, read the manual, or ask a friend?!
littlebeanmeangreen or some shit like that on youtube did a youtube video trying to prove LoZ and botw/totk were literally nothing alike having literally never played the former, then when he did he had to make a bunch of copes about it and rested on "well the devs werent trying to do a remake of LoZ and everyone keeps saying they were so im right and youre wrong"

>>716164698
>It clearly takes place after Odyssey
No it doesn't.

>>716109715
The majority of banadium gems take some effort to reach or find, not all of them are just randomly buried underground. The abundance of mindless ones doesn't mean the absence of cleverly designed ones. The collectibles are not tied to the game's progression anyway unlike Odyssey.

>>716164698
>It clearly takes place after Odyssey.
your picture implies the opposite. Are you retarded?

>>716171853
I can see "good for its time" perfectly well, but there really isnt another explanation for "its good even now" other than double standards.
This doesnt apply to early retro games, tetris, donkey kong, mario bros, zelda, megaman, etc, they all hold up perfectly well thanks to their designs jiving with their limitations.
The fifth gen however has the most dramatic, obvious, and painful to re-experience growing pains in gaming, yet somehow its regarded now as some gold-standard. Man, when the goldeneye remake on wii came out, I remember people saying that the actual ability to aim was a downgrade from the weird ass doom controls + aim assist shit from the n64.

>>716174435
Can you stop replying to me multiple times?

>>716173335
>Keep in mind that the solution is not different, the solution is the same every time, but the work is different.
As an example: Wahgo Katta Shrine has you constructing and stabling a bridge to make a platform to hop over on to reach the goal, or you can use another item (Balloons) to cause a platform to float vertically and ferry yourself over with with another item (Korok Leaf) to complete it (shit you find exploring the damn overworld that provide new options for the player. This is a nuanced puzzle that takes advantage of 3D space. You're playing around with different tools that have different reactions to the world and function differently. BotW builds up on complexity/difficulty by utilizing an earlier concept (chop a tree to make a pathway you can walk across) throughout the game a lot. It's a central mechanic.

These people don't understand 3D level design, they have no idea what to do with actual 3D game mechanics about player expression and agency because they, no exaggeration, very stupid. They can't argue against it because they can't wrap their minds about the possibilities of 3D space BotW provides (or any game not made by lazy and incompetent devs). It's not just just playing a 2D game presented in 3D, Verticality is not only relevant but critical. It's a natural evolution from OoT and its clones, it's a more organic activity where elevation matters and isn't blocked behind loading screens and cutscenes so every environment isn't just a flat space with an occasional and basic ramp. Less we talk about the Divine Beasts the better. They make older 3D Zelda dungeons look like Nintendo have never developed a video game before.

>>716174617
oh so you're really retarded then

>people spent months twisting themselves into knots saying nintendo was trying to erase rare's legacy when they changed up DK's design
>game's actually the biggest rare love letter in decades

>>716112859
God, please, I want a Wario Land game again.

>>716175080
No.
I just believe that you are the only one complaining about my perfectly reasonable theory.
Before the site got hacked, this board was saying things like "I can't believe Mario sealed the deal." and making jokes about Mario being a deadbeat.
I can only assume that those people left and/or moved on, but when I examine everything and present infographics, you come up to me and complain.

>>716175080
he's like this on /vg/ too by the way

>>716171392
wonder if adult pauline has freckles.

>>716173860
>literally never played the former
I'm not joking when I say these people need to be killed. Just stop talking about video games if you don't understand them.

The Feast Layer was a fitting tribute to the DK64/Banjo Tooie style of when the fuck does this level stop design. Makes you appreciate the layer segmentation in the rest of the game

>>716176035
Goyslop Kino Layer is what I call it

>>716175102
I mean not like we knew of the ending, and all signs seemed to point to it. Is it not something nintendo would pull?

>>716176035
I loved it but I did breathe a sigh of relief when the next sublayer was a corridor.

>>716157380
inside the storm
i found the key, your beat rang out
my voice has been released

>>716111621
>him being stuck in the Banandium root explains why he was missing for so long
I thought this too but wasn't he the one who stole the banana hoard and Cranky had to chase after because DK was off mining?

>>716176915
dk should be doing that to void not pauline.

>>716176946
No? the story is pretty clear that Void is the one who stole the bananas because he needs the fuel.
Cranky just thought it was K. Rool

>>716177162
Wait, so regular bananas provide power like banandium gems?

>>716175557
probably hides them with freckles

>>716177745
Too old.

>>716177496
Bananas have always held some kinda magical powers, what with the Banana Birds, Banana Fairies and Tikis.

>>716177785
Donkey Kong…

Why does DK kidnap Pauline after this game. What happened between DKB and DK arcade?

>>716108570 (OP)
If you don't enjoy immediately replaying it then a game can't be above a 5/10

>>716176379
No, people were telling you all that the slight face redesign was blown out of proportion and that everyone in Japan loves Super Donkey Kong, including just about anyone at Nintendo and Miyamoto (who didn't even have input on the game anyway), and we all got called shills and apologists. I won't forget.

>>716110150
>never upgrade or buy any health items
So basically doing the equivalent of a SL1 in a nintendo game? Only hardcore players will do that while the game as intended is way to easy.

>>716179603
Maybe, but the points go to other stuff so it’s not like you have to intentionally gimp yourself.

>>716158910
It's so damn disgusting. Which is absolutely par for the course with the rest of the game.

>>716158910
This fight took me more tries than I'm willing to admit.

>>716109869
>but I hear this game is really easy
I play 3D platformers for the movement mechanics and creative level design. Bananza is easy sure, especially if you max out your HP, but there's no genuinely hard 3D platforming since they aren't actually all about pure 3D platforming challenges. The only one I have never played that truly challenged me throughout the whole duration was The Big Catch: Tacklebox, an indie game that only came out like a year ago. Even TR which does have lots of tricky jumps, didn't push your shit in as much as that game (and that's not pure 3D platforming as well). There's way more focus on interacting with the environment in general and using your moveset in ingenious ways to explore, move fast, and complete objectives/collect things. Nobody is going to say Ape Escape made them their bitch, but anyone who has played it is going to tell you it's one of the best games ever made.

>>716179603
No, he just said don't upgrade your health. Faggots on this board cry about games being too easy, then cry when they are told to pick hard mode.

>>716176035
I thought American layer was one of the easiest to understand desu it's literally meant to feel structured

Surprising. Impressive.
I was expecting the novelty of voxel destruction to get old, but they explore tons of unique ways of using them.
For all of the voxel trash we've had since minecraft, it feels like the first time its ever really been explored as a mechanic for puzzles and platforming in such a thorough and methodical way as they so intensively explore platforming mechanics with mario.
Really opens up a lot.
DK controls great, lots of fun rolling diving dashing canceling flourishes as you got in Odyssey.
I never really got bored at all.
Difficulty is maybe a little easy, but I did die few dozen times throughout the playthrough, and they do follow through with more advanced challenges in late and post-game, just as they do with Mario.
K Rool is cool, and it feels like they've really recentered Donkey Kong as a flagship franchise.

Feels long and hefty, but not overstaying, 16 hours for me, not rushing, not thoroughly combing every corner.

Absolute must buy, but I dont think will have the staying power of BotW had for the Switch.
Zelda has an emotional appeal to it that resonates with people, and this tonally feels a bit more like a younger childrens cartoon with unimpressive music and shallow narrative beats.

A real grand adventure for DK, and a real flagship for the Switch 2.

>>716108570 (OP)
Sandbox game

>>716108570 (OP)
>it is undoubtedly an amazing game
>I was waiting for the game to wrap up
You answered your own question

Let's get some debate going.
Here's my ranking of the Bananza forms:
>Usefulness
Elephant > Ostrich > Kong > Snake > Zebra
>Theme
Kong > Ostrich > Zebra > Elephant > Snake

>>716108570 (OP)
Lame. Where is my new Donkey Kong Country returns?

>>716181641
Well said, and I feel the same way about Tears of the Kingdom: From a game design perspective, it's a masterpiece. People on /v/ keep saying how much of a time and money black hole AAA games are, yet most of those games focus on using graphic horsepower to make individual strands of hair and sweat drops fly off characters in favor of muh realism.
But TOTK and DKB are a giant middle finger to that. They're making new pushes in what technology can achieve in terms of how we play and control games, not just making the shiny graphics 10% shinier.

>>716182356
Zebra is unmitigated dogshit but Snake is a sequence breaking machine, pair it with Ostrich and you can outright skip entire sections

>>716117873
Yeah it’s weird how DK didn’t react to news of KKR either. Like all he had to do was pull an angry face when he first saw him

Bananza is really a once-in-a-decade sort of game, and it greatly pains me when I consider it will likely sell notably less than Odyssey and BotW/TotK. If this game doesn't break records at least within the franchise, we may never see DK with budget again, and not see DK in a major title at all for a long, long time.

>>716183612
Why do people keep shitting on Zebra? It’s fucking fun. It makes movement more fun. The dash feels bad at first but you get used to it and you start canceling out of it at appropriate times. Wayyyy more fun than shitty Ostrich which is just gliding slowly

>>716108570 (OP)
Feature length.

>>716183997
They're making a fucking DK animated movie. Obviously he's gonna get more i nthe future if they're going this hard on the IP

>>716183997
Game was fantastic but I would have preferred another 3D Mario over it. And then gotten another DKCR-type 2D platformer that is more challenging than other Nintendo games.

>>716183612
>>716184048
zebras rock throw decimates the environment and it tickles my autism so its good

>>716108570 (OP)
So what's the big game for August? Are they gonna throw Metroid Prime 4 or something unannounced?

>>716183612
can't people already skip every single bananza other than elephant? but yes snake is great and deserves more love

>>716108570 (OP)
If Cranky Kong is the original Donkey Kong from the arcade game, how the hell is he an elderly Kong in Bananza while Pauline is only 13? He still insists the original arcade game happened.

>>716184165
As a Mario fan first and DK second, I'm more than happy DK got a worthwhile 3D collectathon again. Mario will get his, there's no doubt there. For DK, it was a matter of IF he'd get a new 3D game. For Mario, it's a matter of when. But yeah, here's hoping dor another Returns game to round off another trilogy, maybe with the Kremlings now that they're out of the metaphorical and literal mines.

>>716184683
He kidnapped Lady, Pauline's grandmother. Jumpman saved her, no confirmation on a relation to Mario.

>>716184712
DK is now better than Mario on both 2D and 3D.

>>716184782
He didn't mention Mario by name or anything? I forgot.

>>716184683
This post I found on Famiboards might explain it.

it's a real joy seeing people react so happily to seeing the kremlings appear. Even with a language barrier in other languages people cheer when they hear the OUGH sound and it's amazing

>>716173335
>>716174993
Actually good video game analysis on /v/, nice.

>>716184872
Nope, just a quick joke about rivals in overalls. There's evidence of Lady being the original kidnappee in the lowest level of the game, and of the original DK who kidnapped her. Going by the logic that Cranky is still apparently DK's grandfather and li'l Pauline mentioning her grandma a few times (plus getting an outfit based on Lady), it stands to reason that Lady is Pauline's grandmother.

>>716173335
>>716174993
Very well stated. It really is a shame posts like these tend to get lost in a sea of shitposting and bullshit.

>>716184987
There is no naming convention for the female line.
Lady - OG Donkey Kong
[unknown mother] - no games
Pauline - Both Bananza and Odyssey

Cranky - OG Donkey Kong, kidnaps Lady, and old in later games
Current DK - formerly DKJr, DK in DKC and then Bananza

OG Donkey Kong (Cranky) is likely named after the city, and passed the name down to his son

I don't know, ask me in 2 years when I feel like there's enough games to actually buy a switch 2 for and I'll get this at a deep discount on ebay and play it then.

>>716183612
>>716184048
Zebra is the filler transformation and I don't mean that in a bad way. Any time you're not actively doing the thing that Elephant/Snake/Ostrich is best at you should be Zebra so you can get to the next part faster and do all the things you'd do as normal DK. Most of Zebra's actual moves are pretty situational but its base speed buff can be massively helpful, even just for cutting down on tedium.

>>716183997
Dw it'll sell well. We even have first glance at the sales records it has accomplished in the UK physically so far:
>Sold 3x more than Tropical Freeze on Switch
>Sold half of what Odyssey did
Keep in mind that Odyssey wasn't released so near to the Switch's launch but nevertheless these are good numbers for the DK franchise especially at a slightly high price point. I'm curious to see what the Famitsu numbers will be
>MKW sold 782,566 copies in its first few days in JP
>Odyssey did 510,000 within that say timeframe
I assume DK will do 300,000-400-000+ copies when Famitsu numbers come out. This game is definitely going to become the best selling DK game in the series along with being a 20+ million seller like Odyssey but won't outsold Odyssey though in its lifetime (Its at 29 million now).

>>716186928
Has there been a DK game that sold poorly? It's always been one of Nintendo's major IPs. DK arcade put them on the map even before SMB became a cultural phenomenon.

>>716187681
Mainline-wise, I think there were some ports that didn't do too hot, like the 3DS Returns port

on the branching paths ive seen people use the ostrich to skip the freeze layer, but is it even possible to do the reverse? use the zebra to skip the forest layer

>>716188032
I looked it up, the 3DS port of Returns sold over 1.5 million copies. That's not amazing, but it isn't bad at all, especially for a port.

The game is fine but like most modern Nintendo games or they are brain dead easy or retarded hard in some fights. There are no difficulty settings or a smooth increase in difficulty. The ending is fucking perfect, usually the ending of these games is ass. Not the case with this one.

>>716186928
That's good. If it captures sales like that in the UK, it should be fine elsewhere.

>>716187681
For main titles? Jungle Beat criminally undersold because of its (excellent) divisive control scheme, which I feel hurt the franchise, though it clearly bounced back. I'm sure King of Swing and it's sequel did middling numbers, and Barrel Blast isn't terribly good despite being rather unique.

>>716184838
It's Mariover... we been dethroned...

>>716192145
ENTER

>dk thread
>minimal faggots
>faggots who are here get btfo'd
>game design essays
>proper debate
>people enjoying the game
What the fuck happened? Has the nintendo ape healed /v/?

>>716189487
Its not really a hard game, but a lot of the difficulty is binary.
>How the fuck do I dodge this
then you figure it out what the game expects you to do and its actually very easy.

>>716184683
The arcade game is just Cranky's perception of things.

>>716192145
>Mario has a new power up where he turns into an elephant
>DK has a new power up where he turns into an elephant
Nintendo EPD has a new fetish?

is this game a prequel to donkey kong country why is pauline a kid

>>716109715
But enough about Astro Bot.

>>716192495
Its a prequel to Odyssey

>>716192495
No, DKC happened, there are references to the original trilogy throughout the thing, and we don't know for sure, but this Pauline talks about her grandma a lot, which is implied to be the original Lady from Donkey Kong

>>716192495
Cranky was mercifully spared the fate of going from his prime to decrepit in like 5 years but the original Lady is now Granny Pauline Sr and Jumpman's identity is fuck knows at this point. The game explicitly takes place after Country 2 at the very least

>>716192736
Then who was Jumpman?

>>716123327
What do you think causes the level of mental illness to feel personally offended when people criticize your new favorite toy as a fully grown man?

it's basically banjo kazooie 4 with dk + pauline and that's fine.

fractones are literally the rhyming npcs, and have like 20 diff forms. even giraffe ones.

>>716192145
>he doesn't know
this was clearly developed in preparation for a mario and dk vs bowser and k.rool future game

>>716192495
past pauline was sent to the present, it's time travel shit

>>716108570 (OP)
It's a great. Solid 8/10. Would be a 9/10 if it was harder.

>>716193049
There's nothing to even imply that, is there?

>>716192495
it's a sequel to DKC and a prequel to odyssey

>>716192957
>giraffe
Maybe Bananza 2 will delve into the Giraffe and Lion genocides that apparently happened before the game started

>>716192957
So far the only thing that doesn't look good about this game is the art direction, and I had a similar issue with Mario Odyssey. It all just looks uninspired. Very basic level themes and the levels don't look like they're part of a convincing, consistent world, just a mishmash of colors and biomes. Mario Odyssey was especially egregious in this department -- why was the Mushroom Kingdom just floating in mid air? Why does the moon have random bottomless pits everywhere?

>>716192784
He can't be Mario's grandpa, or Mario and Pauline's relationship would be weird.

>>716192957
>Rhyming
Doe you mean the jiggies?

>just got the Zebra
>Theme song is now stuck in my head forever

>>716193118
It's the theory that makes the most sense and doesn't have any plot holes, it explains why New Donk City is already called that, why it includes multiple references to the arcade Donkey Kong, why it looks modern, and why a random 13-year-old was able to headline a major live show at City Hall

>>716192957
The thing that really surprised me about this game is how much it felt like a Banjo-Kazooie game. Especially Feast Layer felt like something straight up out of 90s Rare's wheelhouse. You can tell that the dev team had a ton of Donkey Kong and Rare fans that worked on it, which is crazy since I dont think Rare's games were all that popular in Japan.

>>716193556
Is the Mario and Pauline relationship even a thing at this point? It's hard to tell what Nintendo is keeping and retconning from the arcade game

>>716193723
It is very much a thing as of Odyssey.

>>716193723
It's confusing to say the least. Mario vs Dk games are probably in a canon limbo now because after the events of Banana Dk wanting to fuck adult Pauline is weird...

>a fucking thread from a day ago is still up
Is this what's its like seeing a youthful child grow up and wither away?

>>716193865
They could probably take place after Super Mario Odyssey and before Donkey Kong Bananza.

>>716193865
After the events of bananza*
Dumb auto correct

>>716193723
Jump up superstar is practically a love song form Pauline to Mario

Was pretty odd in a game where Mario actually explicitly shows romantic interest in Peach

Did anyone else play through the whole game as classic brown and naked DK? He looks dumb in pants.

>>716193990
>Pauline show no interest in rare Dk
>Mario ignores Pauline
>Peach doesn't give a fuck about Mario and Bowser
This is your typical Nintendo game

>>716193990
Bitches love the Italian manlet.

>>716193990
And Mario and Peach did not get married in Super Mario Odyssey.
And now we have this in Donkey Kong Bananza.

during the chorus of the kong bananza pauline will start pumping her arms with the music, lots of neat little animation details it's not just the music notes flying around.

>>716193147
They fucked off, not died

I'm not interested in playing a Donkey Kong game with a little kid who won't shut the fuck up.

>>716195660
Why are you so mean?

>>716195660
That's my daughter you're talking about. You better delete your post before I call the tranny jannies on you

>>716109715
>It capitalizes on your baset primal desires, but there's nothing intelligent, interesting, or artistic happening
that's gacha.

>>716108570 (OP)
>LOOK WE CAN DO WHAT RARE DID
>LOOK INANIMATE OBJECTS WITH BIG EYES
>LOOK IT'S LE CRAZY CROCODILE GUY
>LOOK IT'S LE MEME LEVEL WITH THE THORNS

You will never be Rare, Nintendo. Just stop.

>>716109715
This. At least in the original DKC the levels was fun, the graphics were neat, and the music was magical.

All of that is absent in this game. It's just Nintendo trying to cash in on the success Rare had decades ago.

>>716111035
Bad bait

>>716158910

Well at this point you made it a self-fulfilling prophecy, anon.

>>716183036
nobody is talking about TOTK, you sound like one of those bots that praise that terrible game with copy pasted redditgraphs

>>716196826
You sound like a retard with shit taste.

>>716196882
I loved BOTW and was looking forward to BOTW2/TOTK every single day. They released the most pathetic sequel I could ever imagine.

>>716196882
Make a thread about it and see how many people agree with you. The results may shock you…

>>716197108
Am I supposed to care about what casual idiots think?

No Style. No Grace. Funny Face.

>>716179843
How? The elephant Bananaza trivializes the fight

>>716197107
No it isn't, you stupid piece of shit. The only major issue with TotK is the hand is too omnipotent, which makes the gameplay too modular. Otherwise it's a phenomenal game. The caves are peak Zelda, and a random well has better level design than anything from the prior games.

My only issue is the platforming is never challenging (I found Mario oddsey more difficult in this respect) and the only time I struggled was destroying that buildings w/ 20 secs left. Otherwise very fun game and I enjoyed it through but I was starting to get a bit bored before the end because challenge rooms weren't as difficult as I hoped they'd be.

>>716197485
you seem upset

>>716197605
You sound like you eat glue for breakfast.

>>716197679
wow you really are upset

>>716197485
The entire game is poorly made, you can traverse so much land with towers and sky islands, traversal is pointless, which they knew because there is nothing to find. They added an entire extra empty grindy overworld that has nothing but enemy and gloom spam, 1 boss exclusive to it, stretched across the whole damn thing. Every interesting set piece from BOTW was reused and lacks a replacement, there is nothing in TOTK similar to fighting Nydra, Eventide, Typhlo Ruins, Thunder Plateau, etc. Guardians, the best enemy for open world games, gone. Content reuse is embarrassing, why is it on the way to the deku tree I can pass a phantom ganon and then the game treats it like he's the boss of the area when you get inside the tree? Oh right, and he's reused later in the castle as the boss. The story is retarded and falls apart, every character is also lobotomized with sub room temperature IQ. I don't care that the technology to make cock robots is there, where is the content for my ADVENTURE game, put that tech in another franchise. With an entire reused overworld, the results are sad, I want to find a one time event where I explore some ruins, solve some puzzles and the area is capped off with a darknut, not fucking korok transportation and Addisons retarded ass spammed everywhere.

>>716198083
>traversal is pointless, which they knew because there is nothing to find.
And I stopped reading.

>>716198149
I too stop reading a post when I realize I have no counter argument

the forest layer sucks and has completely zapped my will to play

>>716198239
I do in fact stop reading when a casual retard lied in his very first sentence.

>>716198149
Im glad they will continue to make these games for you then. I've never been disappointed with this series since the most two recent games killed any sense of proper game design.

>>716198278
Weird I think the forest layer is one of the stronger layers but to each their own.

>>716198367
>killed any sense of proper game design.
>>716174993
Kill yourself.

>>716198349
If they actually wanted people to explore, they had the perfect excuse with the Upheval. It could of shifted the terrain and altered some content, but you really only notice that they changed the routes to each of the 4 disasters. Enemy camps, wells, caves etc, are all similar uninteresting content. Does not help that every enemy is reused and the ones that were added all die the same way, by using bow spam. Not even new tools or weapon types to play with.

>>716198596
>If they actually wanted people to explore
They did. You have wide open world that's remixed from BotW with new abilities that do different things. You're stupid, and wrong. The addition of caves makes scanning the landscape even more important than BotW along with more focus on verticality.

>>716198278
I thought it sucked because of the stage hazards but that's really where the game turns around. The enemies are always easy but the stages can kill you quickly. I hated it at first but ended up liking it. The tempest level however was lame

Just beat the game. The final layer and final sequence was great. Game got a little more difficult for that platforming section at the end but the K. Rool fight wasn’t that hard though I liked all the interactions with the bananza forms it had. This team is really good at making ending sequences, I thought they wouldn’t surpass Odyssey’s but they really did.

Is Void Kong the best voice acting a Nintendo game has had? Absolutely insane performance despite gibberish language.

>>716198914
*were great.
Also I think Void Kong was a more fun fight than Rool because Rool is kinda just doing the same stuff over and over. His “King of Rot” rebranding was funny though. He’s like Malenia or something.

>>716198702
I like BOTW, but the problem is that, open world games are shallow, you experience them the best the first time and each other playthrough turns into running forward because the curiosity is gone, because you already know what's around the corner. making a sequel and not changing the terrain or making significant changes is a terrible idea and it was. Why do you think all discussion dried up 2 weeks after the game came out. Biggest wet shit of a game ever.

>>716198826
In my opinion the radiance layer was weaker then tempest. My reasoning is while the sunlight mechanic was cool I felt the level design didn't make much use of the destructible terrain as other layers.

>>716196053
Nobody will ever be Rare. Old rare is long dead, not even the old developers know how to make game anymore, just look at the pile of shit that is yooka laylee.

>>716199050
>open world games are shallow
Yep, it's retarded.

>>716198995
Agreed, him spamming the blunderbuss during the first part of the rot king fight was so boring I thought I was doing something wrong.

>>716199064
Tempest and Feast were my two favorites and I think Radiance and Hills were near the lower side. Racing was bad though, I wish that layer had more to it and it’s very disappointing. Part of that is because I heard about it before seeing it by name only and expected all sorts of races with surfing, zebra, etc. but it’s just Rambi in an oval.

>>716179216
Which is funny, since she does have the advantage. Her speed is far higher then DK can move, even though DK is stupid fast himself and she's invisible, further confusing him. She just didn't expect Zebra's speed to be even greater. After she further enhances the perfume and gets even faster, it's Snake's ability to slow time that gets her. DK went from matching an ability to using a hard counter. Pretty funny that if DK didn't have Bananza, the fight is pretty even and the two are going to struggle to finish each other off. Poppy was the most dangerous of the three in a straight fight.

>>716198429
ostrich sucks ass

>>716199229
I’m pretty sure you’re just supposed to get mild stuns off by knocking his balls back into him until he shoots the big one where you get big damage in. You can hit him with gold too but it won’t knock him out of the transformation.

>>716199245
Hills felt more like a introduction layer then the first layer to me since it's so basic in design. As for the racing layer I agree it's pretty barebones but the idea of leaving a trail behind that you can use on subsequent laps to go faster was pretty cool.

Game's got a lot of energy to feel.

>>716199361
That's what I did but he never shoots the big ball until the second phase or at least he didn't for me.

>>716198993
Midna's gibberish is sexier.

>>716194453
Pauline's so cute bros.

>>716199449
Yeah I liked that part of the racing. Though I kinda cheesed it, I just made a huge shortcut and if Diddy and Dixie were conscious they’d be like this or something (even though this is kinda a big design element of the entire game).
Also I didn’t pay those bridge Fractones my gold in forbidden layer I platformed across like god intended.

>>716199646
The freedom this game gives you is definitely amazing with the only con being the challenge is largely self imposed. I however don't think every game needs to be challenging and some games like this are very comfy because of that.

>>716199924
Yeah I don’t mind the game being too easy that much. There were a few moments here and there where it picked up a little but I really liked finding shortcuts by using DK’s movement which is the depth I made for myself I guess. The moment I discovered the surf jump -> double jump -> attack/grab -> roll combo around the time I finished Lagoon Layer, the game got way more fun.

>>716199524
Did you go up to him and punch him a bunch?

>>716199097
Impossible Lair was good.

>>716196515
>Twitter gif

>>716108570 (OP)
I never played it but the main design for DK looks like a downgrade