Why don't you cherish it? The failure rate? The paid online?

The paid online ruined it for me yes, dad wouldn't pay for it. Also it needed its own wifi adaptor that wasn't included with the console, and ethernet wasn't an option in the room I had the Xbox in. Also my GTAIV disk got completely ruined by laser burn after like three days of having it, I just entered a cheat and the Xbox started making chainsaw noises that mangled the disk.

Fun fact: the Xbox 360 is the last console to use a disc drive tray.

no good games

>>716130842
Its strength was not having to put up with the shitty versions of games you'd be stuck with on PS3...

>>716130223 (OP)
Vertical consoles were a mistake. Also it was cool but my fondest memories are probably playing with friends.

>>716130689
sovl

>>716130223 (OP)
i grew up with this and enjoyed it. but after getting a ps3 much latter, i realized just how much it was, felt way more modern.

>>716131463
*better
kek

>>716131463
Really? The PS3 felt a little less forward-thinking to me. Not as primitive as the Wii but the PS3 didn't quite feel like it was embracing the Internet as much as the 360 did.

A large part of this was how little attention Sony paid to it during the previous generation so by the PS3 they were only starting to get their sea legs with the idea of a truly connected game platform whereas the OG Xbox, while not super-Internet focused itself, had elements that showed MS was thinking about a future where the Internet would be more integral to gaming and were able to build on that with the 360.

>>716131694
>the PS3 didn't quite feel like it was embracing the Internet as much as the 360 did.
i guess that's what i liked most about it. not having to pay to play online was also fucking awesome. i remember not being able to watch youtube on my 360 because i didn't have xbox live. microsoft got a little too focused with things other than games and it seemed to really bite them in the ass. https://youtu.be/nULp0pGKCS8?t=10s

>>716132331
That's fair but that also meant that the 360 was the first time that online play really felt like it counted for something as a platform identity.

I played online on Xbox 360 more than PS3, I think (although I did put a lot of time on Tekken 6 PS3 - although although I also had the game on both platforms).

>>716130734
It might be more pertinent to say this was the last console that used anything that wasn't a slot-loader.

The only major consoles that used tray-load drives were the PS2 and original Xbox before the 360. Otherwise you'd have to dip into things like the OG Sega CD or the 3DO. All optical media-driven consoles in gen 5 used top-loaders and so did the GameCube.

>>716130223 (OP)
I will forever be grateful to the Xbox 360 for what it did to pave my gaming hobby but the PS3 had a better legacy

>>716130223 (OP)
>Garbage 5.5 gen controller, barely even 6th gen just because it was dual analog
>Garbage APIs being pushed for its multiplats like GFWL, Xinput, etc.
>"HEY I CAN PLAY PC GAMES TOO!" preceding the complete death of the videogame market because all the PC games were reduced to oversimplified, feeble, proprietary multiplats using crap APIs while consoles were all but scrapped as a failed investment in 8th gen
>Pushed for microtransactions the hardest by trying to normalize paying the console manufacturer to push updates and 15$ "expansion packs" of no content whatsoever
>Achievements
>Still sticking around out of pure spite because they know that they're contributing to the metastability of the current shitshow, and without them the industry is going to collapse, but ultimately recover
>"Embrace, Extend, Extinguish" - Microsoft unofficial motto, only mildly altered from the actual motto "Embrace, Extend, Innovate" because the description of """Innovate""" was to change the rules and force people to comply
Actual cancer.
>>716132820
>PS3 had a better legacy
>"If you throw enough shit at a wall, some of it is bound to stick eventually." - Sony unofficial motto

I was stuck with a Wii that gen, which was cool, but I was mostly driven away to PC that gen because of it. That being said I just got a 360 a few months ago and have loaded it up with a shit load of games. So far I've played some really awesome stuff on it and I'm not running dry any time soon. Seems like a really solid console to me. It has the good port of pretty much every third party release that gen and plenty of games of its own just like the OG Xbox

>>716131463
The PS3 just feels worse than the 360 as far as build quality. Even XMB was clunky compared to the 360 UI. The 360 could play games straight from the disc without having to install the game unlike PS3.

>>716134810
PS3 games installing themselves wasn't as common but the load times could be worse since it was the unholy combo of larger media = more uncompressed formats and a media type known for its slow read speeds.

>>716132820
>Better Legacy

>Let's just run games worse and push waggle

>>716133652
>360 controller
>garbage

Is there a single person who owned a 360 and didn’t have it RROD on them?

>>716130223 (OP)
The Xbox is really just a downgraded PC.

>>716134810
>The 360 could play games straight from the disc without having to install the game unlike PS3.
Both consoles had disc games that installed data to the hard drive and games that didn't.

>>716134960
>>Let's just run games worse and push waggle

CAN'T HEAR YOU OVER THE SOUND OF MY BANK ACCOUNT GOING UP. - Nintendo, probably.

>>716133705
You should explore the Arcade it's criminally underrated. One thing I discovered with the 360 is how close in performance it had with PC titles.

>>716134810
>The PS3 just feels worse than the 360 as far as build quality.
build quality is the same for both.
>Even XMB was clunky compared to the 360 UI.
at least it wasn't fucking ugly as hell.
>>716134810
>The 360 could play games straight from the disc without having to install the game unlike PS3.
can you play gta v without installing the game from a disc? retard.

>>716130223 (OP)
It was great. Loved my 360

>>716134917
Most PS3 titles especially exclusives had to install game data.

>>716135047
Not the 360 unless you mean DLC discs which don't count. The PS3 had alot of games that needed to install game data in order to play it. The 360 had an option to install the disc so you'd just run the game off the HDD.

>>716135057
The Wii had a great performance.

>>716135461
>build quality is the same for both.

Not even close. Try playing both and then come back

>at least it wasn't fucking ugly as hell.

The XMB was hideous and slow compared to the 360 UI. It's based off Zune which was inspired by Vista. Pure soul.

>can you play gta v without installing the game from a disc? retard.

GTA V was a PS4/One game that was ported backwards to the 360. One game vs hundreds.

>>716134960
>360 controller
>garbage
Yes. I bought one years ago to cope with just bad control schemes were getting on PC due to increasingly console-ified input paradigms and the fact that games were starting to only support Xinput natively, but I no longer use it, because It can't really do anything particularly well and is generally not comfortable.
I'm not even going to skirt the fact that it is just a less capable and more poorly built Dreamcast controller, a dual analog version of which likely would have emerged over the course of 6th gen, since dual analog wasn't even particularly well used before its demise (and is still kind of shit even with all the handholding that has been refined since then).

>>716135943
>Buys third party controller

Why do you lie?

>>716135936
>reddit spacing
>assumes i haven't already used both systems
>praises zune and windows vista
>says gta v was meant to be ps4/xbox one game even though development started before those systems even existed
can you just be any more wrong and retarded?

>>716136414
>calling out "Reddit spacing"

Post disregarded, learn to argue.

>>716136557
>pretends to win

>>716136414
>>praises zune and windows vista

They both had soul.

>says gta v was meant to be ps4/xbox one game even though development started before those systems even existed

It was. You can research the development but the game was being made for next gen but they ported backwards in order to double dip.

>>716130223 (OP)
The updates, ads on dashboard, struggled to keep pace with pc, and kinect. The Xbox One retardation cemented not bothering with their consoles again.

>>716130223 (OP)
Disc drive got fucky on mine, and I have no reason to use it ever since all the games I'd actually play on it became backwards compatible on bone and sex

>>716136586
Not the same anon.

>>716136705
>The updates

Not a bad thing

>struggled to keep pace with pc, and kinect

It beat PC at the time and Kinect was fun if you weren't a lardass. It's only problem was needing alot of space unlike the Wii.

>>716130223 (OP)
>why don't you cherish it
Slightly gross way to think about videogame consoles. I wouldn't say I "cherish" any of them, despite definitely having favorites.
But I can understand looking at shit like the Dreamcast, Wii, etc. and wondering why the 360 isn't as well regarded.
Not sure if it was any one thing, but several small fuckups towards the end of its lifetime definitely made me think less of it
>didn't like the changes to the main UI over the console's lifespan. The current Microsoft Glass UI, or whatever it's called with the plain squares is massively inferior to the original Blades
>didn't like the Xbox Avatars - especially don't like how they were forced into the main UI and shoved in your face every time you boot the console and sign in. Felt like Xbox following the Mii trend, but it was just forced and less charming. Xbox also always came across as oriented towards an older audience, with a lot of its best games being M rated, and the Avatars felt out of place on the console
>in the same vein, the Kinect was kind of a massive blunder, chasing after the Wii motion control trend. Can't think of a single game I'd genuinely want to play with the Kinect over just using a controller

On top of this the Xbox One announcement soured me on future Microsoft consoles, and retroactively tainted my perception of the 360.
the Switch 2 is frankly almost as bad to me as the Xbox One announcement. They're not implying 1984 style always-active always-online webcam surveillance with the forced Kinect integration, but the Switch 2's draconian remote shutdown shit has convinced me to avoid the console. But now the situation is even worse where there really isn't any good competition for the Switch 2. Might be an opportunity for Microsoft to compete with a new console: as in, dropping the Xbox brand entirely and making something new. Treat customers like people, respect freedom and privacy, and you'll have a leg up. Oh and have games, unlike Sony.

>>716136690
>They both had soul.
windows vista was shit and windows 7 was THE shit. know the difference retard. also zune was just a gay ipod clone, zero soul.
>It was. You can research the development but the game was being made for next gen but they ported backwards in order to double dip.
>no no the game was being developed for next gen because... b-because it just was okay!?!?
>>716136791
do you think i'm THAT retarded or something?

>>716137663
What I think of you is immaterial, the fact is you're wrong in assuming you're responding to the same person who started this conversation.

>>716137727
sure

>>716137663
Windows Vista inspired the look of 7 and Zune had a great design and was the inspiration for Blades.

>no no the game was being developed for next gen because... b-because it just was okay!?!?

Except it was. The 360 and PS3 ports were downgraded compared to next gen.

>do you think i'm THAT retarded or something?

Stop being paranoid that literally wasn't me.

>>716130223 (OP)
It was good at the time, and there are still a couple of games I love, but I just don't value the 360's library the way most other people do. Too much focus on shooters, racing, and mediocre action games. Also, this gen was the beginning of some shitty practices that we're still putting up with.

>>716137941
>Windows Vista inspired the look of 7
no fucking way... i had no idea.
>Zune had a great design
wow you can be more wrong and retarded, impressive!
>Stop being paranoid that literally wasn't me.
okay so it was you. thanks for confirming. kek

>>716130223 (OP)
I was stuck with one for a while when my first PS3 died. I cherish the memories, but I was always more comfortable on Playstation.

>>716130223 (OP)
it squandered all of its momentum by going all in on kinect during the second half of the gen, around the same time all of the exclusives dried up aside from the dudebro heavy hitters like forza, halo and gears. at least we got lost odyssey and ninja gaiden II out of it.