>>716170273 (OP)Fighting games aren't fun when your opponent isn't in slapping range
i'd play uni2 but only through spacewar
i ain't paying >5 bucks for a dead game
how are online tourneys for mvc3 done?
parsec or something else
Lovely
GGs I guess, unless this shit wants to work again
>>716174142GGs. Thanks gaben
>>716171942MvC3 tourneys are primarily hosted by TNS, who yeah usually do Parsec on a neutral server
>>716170273 (OP)No good fighting game has been released in the last decade.
>>716170273 (OP)i don't have the training mode college degree to be able to play them, sorry
>>716176753Stop overthinking and just play one.
>>716177759GGs
my internet killed itself there sorry about that
>>716177591>Stop overthinking
>>716178485This is exactly the shit I mean. You're looking at combos before having played even once.
>>716178485affirmative action 8
>>716178485>tekkenthe average player doesn't think in that game, you're fine
>>716178831>fgc fag copy pasted response of not trying>>716178970this is tekken 7
>>716178831Yeah, you unironically can win games by just hit > sweep. That's all that actually matters: whether you can get that hit in, cause the knockdown, and be in an advantageous spot to do the hit again. That's all combos are anyways, just drawn out to try to get more damage (or in some games, more meter).
Newbies spend 500000 years trying to learn combos that they can't even hit the starter of because they never figure out high/low strike/throw, which you don't need to lab to know the basics of
>>716179050>fgc fag copy pasted response of not tryingAgain in English please.
>>716178485this shit isn't even hard what the fuck
>>716170273 (OP)man fuck I'm down to play P4AU but I literally picked this game back up after years since it first released and the discord seems dead....
>>716179163You faggots constantly say we don't try fighting games when we have. Spending 5 hours bare minimum on what's considered a bare bones bread and butter combo on ai is fucking boring you fags can't concede that you can't learn fighting games without spending 3k+ hours in training mode.
yo can we ignore the retard? you know he's just baiting for attention because his mom didn't give him any
I play SF3 in figthcade from time to time but Im a dirty casual.
Im not fast enough to pull off most combos
>>716179361You don't need combos. Just go online right away and fight other newbies.
>>716179418It happens like every thread and he always gets dozens of replies.
>>716179548>Play only the 2 most popular fighting games that are progressively getting worse over time
>>716179667Yeah, okay, you're trolling. Here is your last (You) from me.
>>716179349>this shit isn't even hard what the fuckNot everyone has 30+ years of previous fighting game experience to do it all in under and hour
>>716178831>Get hit once> >>716178485 touch of deaths>STOP OVERTHINKING AND DO FOOTSIES AND AVOID GETTING HIT!Nice argument, discarded because you can't admit fighting games have issues, though.
>>716179757>>716179807i accept your concessions
Maybe the average /v/ poster IS more retarded than I previously thought.
>>716179820under an hour*
LET'S BRING IT
POWER OF THE NOVA FORCE
>>716178485tekken is designed so you can literally just mash random buttons and the character will do things
>>716179620Is it the Asukafag?
>Just play this unfun, dead and dumb-downed genre!
>Oh boy another laggy match against a cheating 13 year old retard that eats adderall for breakfast!
Hmm...No, I don't think i will.
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>>716179980>mfw people don't like religiously dedicating 8 hours of their day to finally becoming mediocre at fighting games>>716180107The auto combo system is intentionally gimped for the autists that spent 3k hours in training to be able to easily stomp you anyway even if you try to react and counter.
>>716179548>and fight other newbies.You mean the "newbies" that are ELO/rank 2000+ Master/Tekken God or whatever the pantheons are because NO NEW PLAYERS besides (YOU) (1 player) are playing the game, even as a F2P (BaikenTODer: "F2P IS THE FUTURE d00d!" *ignores DOA5/6, GranBlue 2, Fantasy Strike, Rising Thunder, et. al. F2P fighting games flopping before this point*) so you can get bopped, launched, and death comboed for 30 seconds to repeat a second time before quitting in frustration becasue the game doesn't rank gate? Those "newbies?"
>>716180225i look like this
guys what to do if im remedial yolo mashing bum
>>716179980This guy IS fucking retarded, but retarded in a disingenuous, attention whoring way.
Just stop trying to reason with it, it's his whole shtick.
>>716181013He then proceeded to win because he realized you were just mashing on button and nothing else
>>716181217>but retarded in a disingenuous, attention whoring way.
I only play 3rd strike and I'm the best player on this site.
>>716181013>Tag is Jim Mashimalmao, ok you win
>>716181281>youIt was a one line AHK script that did literally nothing but mash 3 and won more than a thousand matches, got a 9 win streak and reached Eliminator rank
None of which would be that impressive for a real person that played 3000+ matches while doing advanced tech like "looking at the screen" and "pressing buttons other than 3", but is also pretty fucking good for literally a single button being mashed by a script that is not even aware that it is playing a videogame. You're afraid of being worse than that.
>>716170273 (OP)I loved the old UI so much more than the one in AU.
>Just play for 10+ years before being semi-competent
Played fighting "games" (actually casinos) for a year before quitting and learning a real hobby. Never looked back.
>>716181514i watch 3rd strike and basicaly i am on pro level without playing it
>>716181035tbag ltg when he hits dashboard and waste clock
>>716181850FGC is too mean bro.
Some animals don't have fangs, but they're just as ferocious as any other in the kingdom. Not FGCbros, they always come out teeth bared.
>>716181605>and won more than a thousand matches, got a 9 win streak and reached Eliminator rank>None of which would be that impressive for a real person that played 3000+ matches while doing advanced tech like "looking at the screen" and "pressing buttons other than 3", but is also pretty fucking good for literally a single button being mashed by a script that is not even aware that it is playing a videogameDon't believe it
How is Mai in City of the Wolves?
I don't watch many streams, tournaments or whatever but I have literally never seen anyone play her in tournaments.
>>716182027Eddie is the designated masher friendly character in a game that is already designed to be masher friendly; from what I could tell he gets highs and lows and I think even a stance change just from mashing a single button.
That's hardly a defense of Tekken 8 but my point is the bot probably wouldn't have worked with any other character in the game. It was very much real though, I watched the stream for a while, funny as shit.
>>716182027Here's the clip of it reaching Eliminator
https://clips.twitch.tv/TameExcitedBananaFreakinStinkin-hnUbcoTzJ8Jr1U-B
any guesses as to who the brunette and blondies are to the right? is it Anita?
>>716182258it only worked on tekken 8 which is a burning ship right now so it's irrelevant at this point
>>716182056less sauce then sf6 counterpart and bottom 5 character
>>716182461>bottom 5Tragic.
>>716179867do you think you're going to be matched up with people doing ToD's when you play online for the first time? you're just making excuses for yourself
>>716182601that's the curse of waifu characters
it's better to make them weak than strong, because if they are weak people will still play them and then also cheer when she gets buffs, while an overpowered waifu character getting nerfed will cause a riot
sf6 found a good balance, most girls that aren't bears are just solid mid-tiers. mai started out annoying but not actually that good, and got annoyance toned down without really making her weaker so they avoided the crisis.
>>716182735that's all the matchmaking system is gonna have left after the first match. outside of tekken 8 and sf6
>inb4 only play sf6 and tekken 8
>>716182838>while an overpowered waifu character getting nerfed will cause a riotI understand completely.
Bea is still a fucking gorilla but Beafags will never ever shut up about her """nerfs"""
>The announcement for the shitty beta and Vi for 2xKO came on the same day that TOKON would straight up have a playable demo in EVO
The difference in speed is astounding
>>716183542if tokon is f2p it will absolutely bury 2 eks keyo
I would really like to see the 1st experiences of the retards who claim that there are zero newbies in fucking Tekken and SF of all things. Are they avoiding ranked? Are they getting into ranked but getting beat by some other new dumbass who learned like 2 things then making these posts?
>>716183542any word on a co-op mode? an 8 controller station at at EVO would be wild
>>716183681>implying that people don't use smurf accounts>implying that sf6 and tekken 8 are the only fighting games that exist
>>716184073Based nondescript face men of good taste.
>>716184073there are people who say anime stuff doesnt have place to be in capcom games btw
Amahl
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Who's your Tokon never-ever? For me, it's the Shadow King
>>716185041Tourists are retarded, we have known this for 9 years.
>>716185041ingrid won though
>716185041
thanks for the update ESL
>>716185176esl genre though
>>716185127More like 20 desu
Only EOPs sperg out about "muh ESL"
>played first online match
>get absolutely curbstomped
>never play fighting games again
I learned my lesson, it was clearly not for me
>pick top tier
>game becomes 200% more enjoyable
i dont ever want to work or put effort into anything ever again
>>716185795Unfortunate, but if one (1) ass beating is enough to discourage you then yeah, fighting games are not for you.
>>716185906well
>>716185795is also a seething fgc fag because people don't like grinding 3k hours in training mode
no seriously man we need more new juice quick. it's unfair how quickly DnF duel and Melty Blood died.
FUCK man, what's the active ones right now:
>Strive
>SF
>Tekken
that's fucking it GAY AS SHIT. don't even CoTW me because you know your ass not a lot of people playing it because can they PLEASE fucking hire a QoL designer or something for this game? why is it so jank before you even get to a match
>>716185906yep not playing fighting games sorry, no matter how much OP begs
>>716185795thankfully 2xko gonna have 2vs2 ranked so you can have teammate to carry you
>>716185991>gatekeeping good tho
>>716186062wym by gatekeeping?
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>>716186014nope, you guys have fun playing against each other, not bothering to be target practice for bored veterans I still have some dignity left
>be aussie
>love playing retro fighting games
>almost no one plays them
>would have to play shitty connection matches with NA/EU
fuck my stupid tranny life
SFxT pair play mode was fun with a friendo
>>716186093just the general sentiment on /v that hates anything being "accessible" because it attracts new players and those new players ruin the games
>>716186131you got raped bro you have no dignity left
>>716185991Granblue is active.
Apparently even Blazblue and +R are active if you are willing to put SOME effort into making lobbies.
There's also all the shit on Fightcade
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>>716186254yeah, still not playing fighting games buddy, enjoy
>>716186203you can play some fightcadeshit with fellow bogans or seamonkeys though
>>716186238Capcom turned Street Fighter into a hideous piece of shit with clown mechanics by appealing harder than ever to casuals and burgers so the sentiment is not wrong.
The real problem here is THINKING you can gatekeep hobbies in 2025. You can't
>>716186440I agree, fighting games should cater exclusively to hardcore gamers, keep you delightfully contained
hopefully then you will stop complaining about needing "new blood" because nobody plays your games
>>716186265its easier to find match in gg or bb then in grubbler
>>716186238i mean fuck man I'm not even talking about the gameplay here. I'm talking about damn matchmaking and UI stuff. Like jesus fucking christ, why are fighting game devs like 10 years behind every other genre. I get it's niche and all but don't they want to innovate? Everything is so fucking backwards with them.
WHY THE FUCK WOULD I WANT A LOBBY SYSTEM LET ME JUST START QUEUEING FOR MATCHES YOU STUPID FUCK.
actually most games did this but i remember day 1 strive was fucking RETARDED with the matchmaking
I'
>>716186597>in ggYeah
>or bbLol no go advertise your crap elsewhere
I'm waiting for evo so SF6 can go on sale
>>716186597Where do you live?
>>716186265meh i wish i can teleport to when token releases. i need something new. i don't want to play "solved" fighters right now. no im not the schizo.
>>716170273 (OP)one of the legit worst fighting games I have ever played.
>>716186203They will never know our pain
>>716186745Ah, that would explain it.
Yeah, I've heard Granblue is pretty dead over there... I can find matches just fine here in NA
>>716186745eh master rank is fine
Wasn't Strive supposed to get some kind of regular Ranked mode instead of the tower shit?
I just launched the game for the first time in months and I see nothing of the sort. Is it coming with the Lucy update or whatever?
saudi bastards need to put every snk game on deep discount
>>716186761Tokon will be solved on the third day
>>716187115>s it coming with the Lucy update or whatever?Ye
>>716187243Cool.
I guess I'll deal with Tower for a bit longer then, thanks for the answer m8
>>716182838Why is Mai top tier in slime then?
>>716187486better fans and slime mechanics `
>>716183681I remember picking up SFV late into it's life, after seeing posts about how 'even bronzes are so good now dude it's nothing like in the guides I watch', and then running into a guy that literally just held forward at me and tried to press buttons when he was in range. It's all just cope and shitposting. They don't want to improve or learn how to deal with things and need an excuse for losing that makes them still come off superior. They can't be losing to a fellow new player, it MUST be some guy whose been playing eight hours a day all his life in silver ranks treating it like it's Evo finals. It's the same mentality as when people call you a sweaty nolifer for beating them even when the game is displaying that they have more playtime than you.
>>716170273 (OP)but fighting games won't teach me japanese
Only 1 lobby in the thread so far
>>716185110Carnage needs to be playable.
>>716186629I genuinely think fighting games are so niche mostly because they're just dogshit products in general. Assume you like the gameplay equally and compare games like Valorant or CS to the average FG and the latter will look like an overpriced early access scam. How can anybody be shocked the genre is niche when fucking PLAYABLE ONLINE only just became a standard? It's baffling to me how everybody acts like it's a given that the games are just too hard and inaccessible when they literally didn't work until recently and even still they're touch and go. How many players do you think Strive squandered from it's launch not because Timmy couldn't do a quarter circle but because Timmy didn't want to spend three minutes booting the game and getting into the tower just to fight the cabs for even longer so he could get thrown into a game with a dude from South America on wifi?
>>716189627fightan doesn't place nice with online though. 4 frames of added delay is huge when you have attacks that connect in 5 frames
>>716189627We've had playable online since SFIV, no matter how many retards Sajam convinced that anything besides Rollback is LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE
>>716189747>anything besides Rollback is LITERALLY UNPLAYABLEisn't this the truth though?
i prefer games that allow me to blame my teammates when i lose
>>716188359>fgc fag pretending that all "newbies" retards with a single brain cell and that people complain because their "ego" is hurt even though every aspect about fighting games is about ego in some form or another which is the reason people like lowtiergod play them
>>716189945You gotta expand your horizons, man. You can always blame plenty of things other than your teammates for losing.
>>716170273 (OP)is the latest Samurai Shodown good? I see it's on sale for 13 emu coins
>>716187730...and retarded normals, and fireball drive rush, and throw loops (now available only to few chosen characters) and braindead game plan...
>>716190018Yea
You have to beg for games here or bother your friends though
>>716189945In riots new game you'll be able to duo queue and switch players mid-match with an assist
anyone wanna play +R i havent played in months
>>716182838>mai started out annoying but not actually that good
I already do.
They're really not that fun to be honest lol. Winning is whatever and losing to dumb shit is rolling your eyes to the back of your head and go to lab that dumb shit (not really fun).
They don't get any more fun when you play on intermediate or even competitive. If anything, it's more taxing and stressing to play on tier 2 or 3 of competitive (unless the community is really good)
Otherwise, they're just games like any other. Just recognize patterns and adapt and trial error stuff. Only you fags make them look like "le epic 200 IQ games" but they're mostly for niggers and 90 IQ fags who failed college so
>>716190375Sorry I only have strive
>>716190375who do you play
can sf6 with potato mod run on a gtx 770
>>716190457How is it possible that the people who parrot this same cope every fucking thread don't realize that this means they are DUMBER than whatever boogeyman they invoke?
>>716190560i rotate between justice/eddie/ky depending on how im feeling
>>716190608>They're not really that fun like you guys sa->REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE COPE LE COPE SEETHING UR EGO
the amount of time spent into a fighting game can be better spent doing almost anything else. they're good for short sessions and not much else
>>716190457>tfw winning and losing in CS are both more fun and I even think it's a better competitive game than any FG I've played but the thought of dealing with randoms puts fighting games over it to get my competitive fixCS randoms aren't even that bad, man. I've just become unsociable.
>>716190192Thanks comrade.
>>716189870It's not.
Street Fighter IV had super smooth matches if you stuck to playing with people in your region and had 4-5 bar connections, same with Tekken 7
I don't remember MvC 3 online very well but it was probably the same deal.
Rollback also has that obnoxious shit where sometimes it looks like something happened for a split second then it gets corrected into something else.
I'm finding ranking up in sf6 very frustrating. The better I get the less fun I have. People continue to be shitheads, they're just more insidious and capable now that I'm diamond. I'm still gonna push through to master (I know it's not much of an achievement in this game) and park there, but unless Crimson Viper is really fun I'm gonna shelf this one.
>>716190608You really really think I'm talking about them as I'm some sort of mental wizard? Brother, we're two monkeys duking it out even at much higher levels than anything you play. It just so happens we optimized setups neutral setplay and everything really, but reads are just educated guesses , and the rest is just fuck it, we ball.
it would be cope if I had something to prove but I already told you, they're not any more fun when you get "good" whatever you dumb definition of that might be. If anything, they're much less interesting. You can inhale any copium you want and rationalize them because of your struggles.
My point still stands. They're not that fun.
>>716191196> People continue to be shitheads, they're just more insidious and capable now that I'm diamond.yet fgc fags just want you to believe it's just about le ego
>>716188462I mean... they'll teach you SOME Japanese.
>>716191245fgc fags want you to believe it's the best genre to exist when it's just elitism
>someone said mean words to him on the Internet so now he spergs out about it in every fighting game related thread
kek
I spent 60 hours in SF6 and all I can do is the assisted combos and flash kicking retarded spammers online.
I spent 80 hours in Uni 1 and 2 and all I can do is hit confirm into launcer, air combo and steer ender and block sometimes
>>716191646How much effort did you actually put into learning either game?
I don't know why people just make it more complicated than they need to with fightans, if you think the game looks cool and when you try it out, fun, you play it
If not, skip it
>>716190613alright we can do a ft5
steam://joinlobby/348550/109775242902169355/76561199006325958
>>716191850sorry dude got roped into fotm friendslop in the meantime
who wanna get they ass beat in 3rd strike?
>>716191735I only spent at most 5 hours playing online in each, so it was like 50 hours and 70 hours just hurting my hands in training mode respectively. More effort than I put into any vidya that I'm not already competent in, but once I realized that I cannot do execute anything online that I can do in training mode, I hung up the controller
>>716191901sall good then I need look at my replays, the hardest part of fighting games
>>716178485Jin's combos aren't even that hard
Why did people tell me this was good again? Some okay fight choreography in there but as an actual movie it's no better than Annihilation. Hell, at least Annihilation has the trashy schlock appeal
anybody want to play some kof before I go to bed? would prefer something pre-xiv
>>716181514what's your fightcade
substantiate your claims
i am challenging you
>>716191982I wish arcades still existed
>>716192018So you ONLY played online? You never bothered to learn something new with your character or look up info?
>>716192754No I said I played 50 hours training mode and then 5 hours online in SF6, 70 hours training mode and then 5 hours online in uni 2
I get so triggered everytime I see a strive tweet I have to block the poster in hopes that one day my feed algo will be strive free. Fuck that game and everything that Arcsys has done in general post rev 2, Marvel is going to be fucking dogshit too my god Arcsys PLEASE just fucking kill yourselves collectively
>>716185110The show was extremely underrated and I liked the actor but if we do get him, I hope we get the fat fuck in a fez comic version instead
>>716192919What were you training and who did you play?
>>716193363They would be dumb not to include him, yeah.
>>716170273 (OP)Mitsuru ruined P4A
>>716193624They could make him DLC too though, he's a strong pass bait
>>716194291She didn't caress my hair gently while kissing me
>>716178485just B L O C K
>>716194616Oh yeah, definitely.
I am almost certain he will make it to the game but I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if it's in the form of Season 1 DLC hook or whatever.
How do YOU decide on your main, anon?
>All this Tokon talk
>Nobody posted the new screenshots
C'mon guys
>>716170273 (OP)I tried, man. I had a friend who really wanted me to play Skullgirls with him so I spent a whole summer learning to play Cerebella because I thought she was the cutest. When I finally got past the execution problem and could consistently pull off inputs I was just getting merked online every game. I thought I got decent but it's like everyone else in the world played these games way more than I did. I never even gave my bro a decent match and he asked to play Killing Floor instead again.
>>716195008I wonder why he plays I-No instead of Baiken
>>716195156I-No would probably let you touch em while Baiken would cut your arm off for looking at them
>>716195090I mean there's not a whole lot to say other than
>its a single life bar>the UI generally looks nice (much better than Strive's)>Assists are based on where you slot them in on your team
>>716195008Similarly, except I prioritize their ass, not their tits.
Rainbow Mika, Galleon, Shermie...
I wish Tekken girls had an ass.
>>716195008Entirely depends if they have a button or move that just vibes with me or not.
>>716195351Truly in awe about how they managed to make Ms Marvel cute.
Japanizing beam is too powerful.
>>716195402I wonder if Star Lord's helmet will be a toggle or not
>>716195448>spelling errorarc not trying their best...
Speaking of screenshots
Lmao
stan lee played mvc and would think tokon is too japanesey
>>716195090>>716195309Tลkลn looks so cool.
Chara design aside, I like the blueprint art direction a lot. It's a good compromise between simplicity and style. The game is colorful yet not aggressive to the eyes too. Compared to 2XKO, it's already way more charming.
The HP bar and meters UI designs are kinda lame though.
>>716195687>would think tokon is too japaneseyYeah he was a turkaboo instead, saying efendi randomly to refer to people
>>716180694Alright, but enough about Fortnite.
>>716195824no he was talking about fighting games, keep coping though!
Granblue is the most unresponsive game I've ever played
>Backdash macro literally doesn't work if you use it without completely going back to neutral, so it's useless
>Backdashes aren't in the air for the full duration and don't even make your hitbox smaller
>8 frames of pre-jump frames
>Can't even dash block
>Completely useless superjumps
>6f 2l's in a game with 5f throw invul but 5f cL's
>All three buttons are proximity based for some retarded reason
>Menu and lobby controls have lots of unbindable things, things that are pre bound and can get stuck
>>716196283>>Can't even dash blockThis is a good thing btw
>>716196349Except you have a spot dodge and a roll you can use there, you're not defenseless, it's just whack
>>716196461You're not but spot dodge and roll are far more unsafe to do than dash blocking.
I'm literally 0 - 218 in +R, even against "beginners" on the discord.
and yeah I block
>>716196521good, now try attacking
>>716196521to clarify, i've won some rounds but yeah I've lost literally over 200 times without a single win lol
i'm playing johnny and having fun
>>716196537i get blown up even on plus frames or whatever they're called, the roman cancel they do fucks me over too
>>716196584johnny is a good character. Imagine strive happy chaos in that you can modulate your frame advantage but its more fair. Well, less blatantly bullshit but its still kinda bullshit
>>716196521Yeah because +R beginners are not even remotely fighting game beginners. Anyone interested in that game to play hundreds of matches of it more often than not has thousands and thousands of matches on other games.
There's a reason it doesn't have that many players even for an old game and despite having really good rollback and matchmaking.
>>716196808more like mankoto haha
>>716196283You forgot these:
>If you press backdash you don't even backdash for a few frames>Crush system so your buttons can be eaten>Buffer holds forward inputs for way longer than the average game so have fun DPing on accident on technical inputs
>>716170273 (OP)I would love to play fighting games if they removed all multiplayer from them and added a 100 hour single player campaign instead.
>>716196865Be nice, she's cute
>>716196283let me guess
strive?
>>716197023it's my personal philosophy that if a girl cuts their hair short they make themselves less beautiful so I cannot in good faith do so
>>716170273 (OP)This one has denuvo so I'll play bbtag instead
>>716196982basically blazblue games if you don't skip the dialogue and go for every single route
come on where's the creative scrub quote cope in this thread? everything has been said already
the last good excuse was "half circles are RNG" you guys are so boring if you can't top that
>>716197351My daughter is still beautiful bro I don't know what to tell you
should tokon be more based on mvc, fighterz, or bbtag
Absolutely cursed image, do NOT open.
You have been warned.
>>716181013It was a mistake to make him the most noob friendly character.
>>716197907I've been playing a lot of Darkstalkers recently. We're way overdue for a new entry in the series.
>>716198039>Darkstalkers made by current day CapcomYeah...
No thanks
>>716196681It has a pretty good amount of players, it peaks at 100 usually. More than most old anime games except Blazblue.
>>716197659maybe you fags should top your cope of saying that all fighting games have newbies
>>716198726I mean I would hope so given every other old anime game is either a doujin fighter or Arcana Heart
>>716198970Melty doesn't count as a doujin fighter c'mon now
>>716199039Melty is literally the definition of a doujin fighter. Itโs just the most popular one and semi-attached to a series that makes a billion dollars
>>716198970I wish arcana heart had rollback and more players. The designs in it are top tier.
>>716191646how do you play uni and not learn to hold downback for 30+ seconds
Trying to learn skullgirls and it's literally the most unfun process imaginable trying to learn bnbs and how combos work and there's no newbies to play against, i go online it's someone with the perfect combos and reactions. fgc can't say that you can play any fighting game, it's literally try and play tekken 8 or sf6 (dog shit) or not play it at all.
>>716200930>you can play any fighting gameWrong
>play tekken 8 or sf6 (dog shit) or not play it at all.Also wrong
>>716201042what's your suggestion?
>>716200930Not saying you are wrong but
>skullgirlsyou picked the worst bathroom kusoge to play compared to anything else, 13 year old fighting game with a ton of shitty mechanics just because
9 times out of 10 "optimal" combos in that game aren't even combos, they are resets which are impossible to see coming unless you've been playing with the same 30 people in that game for years
there's discord fighters and then there's skullgirls
>>716200930Skullgirls players do not get to talk shit about other games.
>>716201159You can find matches organically without any need for Discords or whatever in Granblue, Strive and KoF XV if you are in NA
Enough people went back to Tekken 7 after the Season 2 shitshow too.
People in these threads somewhat often play BlazBlue and +R too, apparently.
There's also a bunch of old games that are active on Fightcade.
>>716201429You donโt need discord for blazblue or +r but it can be hard to find beginners outside of peak hours
>>716186218Why did they have to be so retarded. This should have been the main game until jive.
>>716201297>you picked the worst bathroom kusogeI've heard every fucking fighting game get called a kusoge at this point, you might as well concede that fighting games are just a kusoge genre
>fighting game with a ton of shitty mechanics just because9 times out of 10 "optimal" combos in that game aren't even combos, they are resets which are impossible to see coming unless you've been playing with the same 30 people in that game for years
So it's basically every other fighting game, don't see the difference.
>>716200194Shield properly or just guard thrust.
>>716201474blazblue literally gets the same amount of players as skullgirls
>>716201362I'm not a skullgirls player i tried to play it
>>716201605>So it's basically every other fighting game, don't see the difference.Most games you finish your combos 95% of the time and then you go for a reset 5%
In skullgirls it's basically the opposite where resets are 95% of the time and actually finishing the fucking combo is 5%
almost no other fighting games does this, I have no idea where you are getting that idea from
>>716201159NTA but I see a lot of new players in Xrd lobbies. The actual ranked mode is almost completely dead but there's a skill indicator next to player names in lobbies that roughly correlates with time played, lowest is Blue>Green>Orange>then Pink and Blue is probably the second most common.
>>716201605Skullgirls combos are legitimately 50% longer than even the average anime game, and resets are 200% more prevalent in the meta. Resets are actually pretty uncommon in most games, 95% of the time you'll see a knockdown into oki instead, which you might still have to guess on but at least are easy to see coming.
>>716201767Itโs a very different game than skullgirls
>>716201774the result is the where you get instantly bodied by endless combos because you dared to try and play online. People playing both are going to try and go with the most damage they can get so there's basically no difference.
>>716174841Tampa Never Sleeps more like Trannies Never Sleep
I want to get back into fighting games but idk what to play
I liked tekken 8 but season2 looks terrible
Used to play Strive but the damage is too high and its dead in my region
All the other anime games I used to play are completely barren now too.
>>716201793its ok skullgirls 2 will fix the game
>>716201990simple answer is there isn't any way to get back into them. Kusoge genre anyway
Post bad things about fighting games and PlayStation
>>716201793This is why you never let MvC2 fans develop games.
>>716200930>pick shitty unpopular game that is unpopular because it's particularly shitty>THERE'S NO NEW PLAYERS THIS SUCKS.If you don't mind me asking why would you think this piece of shit that even most anime fighter players avoid and shittalk would be a better option to pick up than anything else? Especially compared to games made for people like you who whine about things being too hard and there being no new players such as SF6, Tekken and Strive?
>>716197071Anon granblue is literally the game for people who are too shit for strive or want something even MORE boring. Like, strive is weenie hut and that shit is Super weenie hut jr's.
>>716205198Granblue is fun though.
Also I'm pretty sure that guy was commenting on the fact that 9 out 10 times when someone complains about mobility in Granblue, they are an anime fighter player who expected Granblue to be an anime fighter. It's not.
>>716205198Strive is boring because it ends so fast. Spend less time playing than you do loading into a match or watching cutscenes.
>>716205332But he wasn't talking about the movement as a whole just the shitty backdashes and the jumps being worse than fucking SF and Tekken. I myself expected anime SF but it felt fucking worse than that and Tekken.
>>716205454>more times loading or watching cutscenesYou playing on a toaster or some shit? Strive combos are about as short/long as previous games(depending on the character of course) and match loading is super quick or non-existent there.
>>716204860>Implying there isn't 8 billion issues in literally every fighting game that exists
>>716205916Damage is the problem. Combos arenโt longer from hits but the cutscenes make them longer than they should. Everybody complains about long combos in fighting games but making them shorter with long ass cutscenes doesnโt fix the problem.
>>716206102Yeah yeah whatever you, or him, still hasn't answered. Why the fuck would choose to pick up skullgirls if you only wanted newbies to fight when a quick look at how many are playing it would make it obvious?
>>716206290I dunno coming from Tekken those supers don't seem that long. Like 5 seconds max with longer ones being reversals/looking cool so they deserve it.
>>716206290>with long ass cutscenes doesnโt fix the problemThe cutscenes are not that long outside of Gamma Ray
>>716206796>Yeah yeah whatever you, or him, still hasn't answered. Why the fuck would choose to pick up skullgirls if you only wanted newbies to fight when a quick look at how many are playing it would make it obvious?99% of fighting games are similar in player base to skullgirls your favorite one isn't special
why would new players want to play only tekken 8 or sf6 if everyone talks about they get raped by their companies
>>716206796Theyโre only cool looking the first few times, it gets repetitive quick and I want them to be over. I havenโt played Tekken so I canโt compare. Sf6โs level 3s are similarly annoying.
>>716206914Gamma ray and Slayerโs 100 meter super are the worst ones but even tyrant rave is a bit long. With the wall splat and wall break the unplayable time really adds up. I donโt think they add the esports hype factor devs think they do, or itโs not worth the effect it has on general gameplay. If damage wasnโt so high and tension wasnโt so free these problems would be less noticeable even if theyโre still there. Look at when a round ends in high level +R compared to high level Strive, rounds (the playable portion) are too short in strive most of the time
>>716207210I'm tired of this fake ass bait
Go actually look up how long it takes you to start a super in Strive and till you're actionable again and compared it to Grubble or +R
>>716207317You have to be joking. Look at tyrant rave in +R vs Strive. Iโve probably played both games more than you if you think supers are longer in +R.
>>716207317SSBAs in Granblue (which you can only use when you are near death) do get pretty ridiculous, but your post is insane. Are you seriously saying the duration of supers in +R is comparable to Strive? Be fucking for real.
>>716208353>fail to hit him on round start>lose the gameI love melty blood
>>716210861This but unironically
>>716210973sure make a room ill join
>>716211826Passcode is HHHHHH
>>716170273 (OP)i started playing vf 5 revo like a month ago and im having lots of fun
i highly recommend trying it out if you are someone new to the genre because the amount of easily accesible guides and documentation is making the process of learining this game smoother than it would've been otherwise i think
>>716208353That guy from The pianist???
>>716201793>skullgirls>there is a guy
>>716181013>combo literally goes on for 6 whole secondsWhy do fighting game fags harp on about their practice dummy simulators? As bad as GBO2 is at times, it's the one fighting game I actually enjoy playing because the combos are basically only 3 hits long.
comborinos raped my mom and pissed in my cereal i hate them
>>716207210glad somebody else notices how much wallbreak fucks with the pace of the game. if every wallbreak was sped up by 2-3x the game would feel much more satisfying to play,
long supers or cutscenes causing a 'break' in gameplay ruins the breakneck feel of FGs in general.
>>716171170based,
I don't understand how people don't mind pirating games and also using fightcade but when i try to tell people how you can play some of the pirated games online too, they act like i am committing some sort of blasphemy against god,
games like kof 02 um, kof 98 umfe are dead as a desert, their cracks are also available but no one plays them, and would rather spend time in a sea of brazillian/koreans/pakis in outdated version on fightcade
>>716211826GGs, I gotta go. Good to play you again.
>>716195090>>716195309>>716195351>>716195402>>716195448the ui is killing it for me. it looks very bland. the strive-like gameplay doesn't help either
>>716216589yeh ggs
i could have probably picked slayer or just played better into your zappa but i just woke up sorry if those last games were just kinda autopilot
btw your chipp is wild man you go crazy on that dude, but im surprised you didn't dp during pressure like with zappa's ring
>>716216496Based. The only 2D fighter you'll ever need
>>716216737Thanks, Iโve been trying to learn Chipp, I need to learn more of his better combos since theyโre so character specific. Chippโs DP is faster but a lot thinner than it looks so itโs easy to whiff it compared to Zappaโs 236P. Again, youโre really good at Venom, I also need to work on not getting airthrown or thrown out of air normals.
>>716217094Skullgirlfags this is your mindset
>decide to give sf6 a shot
>only wiki is supercombo which is either out of date or missing info
>discords aren't updated either or are hidden away
>"beginner" youtube videos are 30 minutes long and go into random details that are useless
It's retarded that it's impossible to easily access every character's basic bnbs, anti air info, punish combo, meter burn combo and basic oki. That's literally all you need to get started but if you look at any resource it's going to be a list of every possible combo which lead into a number of different situations.
There's bound to be some retard that responds with
>yeah just play and learn as you go
It is not fun to just mindlessly mash while your opponent fucks you up and if a game isn't fun from the start then why bother playing.
>go watch the pro replays, that'll tell you what to do
It is completely retarded to expect a new player to understand why someone is doing X, especially when top players have more options to consider.
It's always funny when people make up random dumb excuses for why people don't want to play fighting games, maybe don't lock basic information for learning how to start playing the game.
Sorry instead of playing fighters today I tried AvP on fightcade.
That game rules.
>>716217584I appreciate that you make different shitter scenarios when doomposting
>>716218229I'm not even dooming. I genuinely want to get into it but I can't be fucked because of how shit the resources are. I've played a ton of other fighting games but I just want to play other people instead of going through google docs or videos trying to find out what the basic shit I need to learn is.
Every fighting game should have the control scheme of Smash Bros, and old games should retroactively get updated to make them easier to play. Nobody wants to learn rocket science just to play a fighter.
>>716217584The in game combo trials should give you simple but solid combos you can use. I was also surprised by how slowly wikis get updated since I mostly play older games.
>>716217584nigger this is SF, you're +X on hit so you hit the button that has X startup frames
>>716218620>Every fighting game should have the control scheme of Smash Bros,totally agree
>and old games should retroactively get updated to make them easier to play. hell no
>Nobody wants to learn rocket science just to play a fighter.and you lost me.
Which fighting game let's me put niggers under ground without a sound
>>716176753This. 100 times this.
Strive is fun
Most fighting games are fun
>>716179548>Other newbiesKek.
>Bought Granblue since it's beginner friendly and haven't played fightan more than casual since Xbox nuKiller Instinct>Lose 5 matches, ain't a big deal, not used to the 200 defensive options and everybody is better, as expected.>Now takes 15-17 minutes to find matches since there is nobody as new or bad as me>US East matchmaking regionHuh. Guess I'm self-filtered for actually trying.
>>716219764the curse of picking a fighting game not in the top 3
>>716218620I wish DOA wasn't in gacha hell. Tekken is a mess, SC6 is 3D Blazblue (a bloated mess of mechanics) and getting games in VF takes forever.
>>716219764The problem with GBVSR is that there is no downranking until S and then again no downranking from Master.
Because of that, most ranks apart from A and Master are deserted. It's an absolutely stupid system.
Try lobbies and add people that you liked playing against. The in-game ID is the SteamID in hex format so you can just convert it to decimal and append it to https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/
>>716170273 (OP)When the FUCK are we getting Persona 5 Arena?!
Fuck you ArcSys, fuck you Atlus
>>716220717P4U was an okay fighting game but a shitty Persona game. imo they really had to stretch to make it work in-universe.
>>716220730The FGC's been shit since 2012-13 (whenever Skullgirls dug up the first Native American Burial Ground and needed to crowdfund and went with war with Smash).
>>716220974I liked that it pseudo-continued the story of 3 and 4, especially the building toward the inevitable freeing of Door-kun. There's also the thing with Sho being called P5MC in the files which was interesting.
>>716220730Every single gaming "community" is shit and there is literally 0 reason to interact with any of them ever.
>>716221185there are no "communites" nowadays just public chats in 'cords and corporate mouthpieces shilling stuff
>want to learn/play a discord fighter
>hate using discord unless needed
>locals is a once a month affair at best
Do I just lab in training mode
>>716219220Melty Blood Len
>>716221384if its a discord fighter then yeah i would say discord is needed
>>716221370Hence the quotes.
>>716220974>but a shitty Persona gameironically I found Labrys' story to be pretty good. In terms of gameplay, it's cool that they added status ailments.
>>716221843It's been around a year since I played it but I was able to get into some matches by just poking my head into a room but if you're new and you want to learn then yeah, you're gonna want another person to teach you since like I said before Blazblue is a bloated mess of mechanics (mainly character mechanics, the system mechanics mostly make sense) and it's gonna take you months to get to grips at fighting everyone at a basic level.
>>716182735Happened in Battle For The Grid
>Worse, 3v3 tag cancer>Even worse, solo ToDs with no tags needed.I thought I was cooking when I discovered a 90% combo as Lord Zedd, but since it doesn't kill? Useless. Dropped the game after hitting gold in ranked.
>>716221843Make a player room and someone will join. Or join one since theyโre almost always open. It takes a very low player count to actually need discord and Blazblue is way above that.
>>716222286>implying he's serious about learning the game"I don't want to join discord" is every shitter's excuse to not play. Besides, there are a million other ways to find people to play against that he also doesn't use.
>>716222707Figured I should say it in case heโs actually interested, or if anyone else is so they donโt think you need discord.
>>716183542>Tokon drops>Everyone: Man this shit already has more and better characters than 2XKO>Riot: Put slop out or we're pulling the funding and selling more overpriced lolcow skins for the safe horny coomers and you'll be out of a job.Simple as. Now we have a date and 'the promise to be online until launch'. Woohoo. They're feeling the pressure.
>>716170273 (OP)i'm playing tekken 8 and already fujin thanks to special mode. fuck learning moves and combos.
>>716222905based affirmative action 8 player
>>716185991DnF was never good outside of the source game. DFO Global is absolute peak until you chase the current endgame. Then it sucks bad.
>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST BERSERKEROkay fine you got me. Kazan is pretty good too.
How do i play ryu from streets
There hasnโt been a single good one since arcana heart 3
>>716192526that's what happens when bro takes too long on the setup
>>716222286>join beginner titled room>queue up>faggot ass 2000 match Carl player joins and matches me check out my roundstart alt tab you stupid cunt
i only use madcatz for fighting games. easier to get them brand new and in reality they were often times better than the stock controller.
>>716222286I tried before with a player lobby but I think I was starting at a bad time, felt a bit rude to barge in since a lot of them were simple 2 man ones and I got told to fuck off from one, so I'm not too sure about the etiquette
>>716222707Yeah, I'm only semi serious
>>716223963>>716223448>>716221384this is legit like 9th time you complained about not finding good matches in blazblue get a clue faggot
>>716224054This is my first
>>716223776If I'm not allowed to have fun due to a gay ass matchup/skill difference, I'm not going to let you have fun either
>>716223963pretty sure you can configure room sizes so you dont need to give a shit about wny of that
>>716224192>I'm a whiny loser>Chad image
>>716223963Itโs easier to make one if thereโs only two or an even number of players in the open ones, since they leave rematch on infinite usually. Someone will join pretty fast most of the time.
>>716195008>Can I comfortably play the character?>Nope!Denied. Blacklisted.
>Yep.NEXT STEP
>Can I do the combo trials that mandate whether you can run a character?>NOPE(95% occurrence rate)Abandon ship, refund game.
>YES! (5% drop chance. Akatsuki in Uni2, Ruby Rose in BBTag, and NO OTHERS)I proceed online and lose. Needless to say, I'm not very successful in fighting games, and tend not to bother with them since they're not comfortable to start, and THEN the skill differences/bad matchmaking/dead game syndrome comes to pass.
>>716195402>CLIMACTIC 4V4 BATTLE ACTION!>lol 6 readyAre they doing this shit on purpose?
>>716195008>good buttons>good corner carry>has a dp>good blockstring pressureI usually end up playing basic shotos and rushdowns.
>>716195531>The reason it became a tag fighter is so people are forced to grow attached to more than one character.>With that? More skins and cosmetics to sell.Jew ploy.
>>716224643>NOPE(95% occurrence rate)>Ruby Rose in BBTagYou might be fucking retarded man. Like sub granblue and sub Tekken 8 player level retarded.
>>716196537>Press one button>CONGRATULATIONS! YOUR LOSING BEGINS NOW!>Counter!>YOU LOSE!
Some of you aren't actually shitters right? I just want to know...
>>716225612Why would anyone good at fighting games post in these dogshit threads?
I stopped playing fighting games when they became too combo heavy starting with SF2.
>>716225782based karate champ GAWD
>>716225612do mid level mashers count?
Urging anyone interested to try Killer Instinct. I was shocked to find very fast matching rates online and a range of skill levels. Extremely unique characters as well, many new archetypes. TJ Combo plays like a roided out Abel/Balrog
>>716216496>No online>... But you'll find your character!>Naruto/Sasuke with the shadow clone glitch for 50 copies of your character>50x Chidori chip damage kills for one bar + potential cross up activation from clones. >There are stronger characters than this.Fuck it's funjank
>>716218213>Fightcade2>Just on there for SHMUPs>Twinkle Star Sprites is the only game I'll bother pvping in since it ran so Rival Megagun could flop.>Having fun score attacking in Gigawing / Mars MatrixHell yeah
modern fighting games are vaporware and don't have the staying power of the sprite era games
sfv and t7 will never have a fan base years from now, same for sf6 and t8
>>716197759fighterz as it won't likely have button dash.
if you are a stick player you should practice flick dashing NOW
>>716224346>>716224494Alright, I was probably being retarded about it, I'll take this in mind
>>716223448>Play the latest Blazblue not BBTag>Expecting anything less than the 2500 match jumpscare>Boot up once>Random room, join>The literal stomping from a 4500 match Terumi versus my 50 match AzraelAllkeyshop for the 2 buck Blazblue easy. Would've been pissed paying full price.
>play super turbo
>genueinly have fun
this is such a breath of fresh air from anime fighters i can actually play the game and NOOCH and FONDAMENTULS matter and i win/lose because of my decison and not because i did 999 hit comborino
>>716227836someone post the vega clip
>>716228128Less degenerate then anything I saw in melty or gg or ballzgay
>>716228317>invisible left/right strike/throw mixupit's literally anime game mixups
>>716170273 (OP)I'm not good at them
>>716228954You can still play them.
>>716226348>Combo Breaker system a must to master, and this means knowing every single character's combo animations and frames>Otherwise LOCKOUT and opponent gets a free one.>Shadow moves need 3 correctly timed inputs, which also requires knowing all character shadow move animations.>However, the game is easy to play in basic actions and combos.Me play Hisako. Me like counters. Game hard.
>>716229450Sure, post the link.
EU and not that good btw.
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To the Anon who responded to my post about playing SoulCalibur yesterday: if you're somewhere in here, then I'm sorry for missing your post before the thread got archived. It was the last post in the thread and it got archived less than 20 minutes after you posted it. I didn't expect /v/ to be that fast on a weekday. The offer still stands btw.
>>716230217Hey, I'm the same anon as this post
>>716229604, if the other anon doesn't respon in the next 3 minutes I'll play you instead.
>>716229604sry here's the room https://invite.meltyblood.club/6097
>>716230217Pretty sure that thread was autosaged.
>>716229348fill her BPD gauge by poking or parrying on a read
do the install
run up and do wack ass mixups
>>716229348Fuck do you mean how? Use her parry, get into jealous state which is easy as piss to do and use her retarded monkey buttons.
>>716185991the fighting game "bubble" popped; people realized the fgc only truly suแนports three main games from established franchised with 2 to 3 decades of branding or the companies behind those brands.
there is no point in making newer fighters when people will only truly play SF for teh traditional 2D fighter, Tekken for the 3D fighter, and the main ArcSys game for anime fighter.
the fgc bitches and moans, but sure as fuck don't actually support smaller devs at all
this is how gaming is now. the big franchise of the genre dictates the market, the players will all flock to that franchise and ignore the other games of the same genre. very few enthusiasts of teh genre will play the less popular titles
>>716230396noones in lobby
>>716224827The game lets you choose how many active characters you have on your team, you can do the full four or go all the way down to a single character.
>>716190457what game is like this gif?
To all the stick players in the thread: How do you characters with 22x inputs without wanting to kill yourself?
>>716185991You have to wait for Nasu to get done with red garden so Len can be in Melty Blood. Otherwise you have to play old fighting games.
>>71623413122X is easy as fuck
>>716234205The funniest part is that Len doesn't even necessarily count as a Red Garden character unlike Satsuki, VAkiha, and some of the others.
>>716170273 (OP)played 4 matches last night and my adrenaline got so high I felt like my heart is about to explode. Any fix?
>>716202942>>716203132young chun was the best
>>716170365>Fighting games aren't fun when your opponent isn't in slapping rangewhy don't you just drive rush over there
>>716201793>95% of the time you'll see a knockdown into okiIt's long past time that we go back to knockdowns without oki
>>716234131They're alright to do in combos and blockstrings but yeah I kind of hate doing that shit in neutral or as a DP
>>716235184nah screw that
you might as well remove the downed state from your game entirely if knockdown doesn't give oki
i don't want to play a game where everyone has access to such good OTG options that it can actually be advantageous to be on the ground
games in the 90s did it and it sucked
>>716234636watch a professional player to see how they deal with the matchup
go to training mode a bit to emulate it or learn something new
play 3 matches
resist the urge to fight more and watch your replays. Learn at least one thing you could have done better before going back in
>>716235657retard you're not fighting in a 2 foot box
knockdowns without oki mean letting fights return to neutral instead of giving the attacker so much advantage that they can slime their way back into point blank and meaty again before people stand up so every situation can just loop into the same brainlet 0 range coinflips
>>716236574that's a problem with slime, not oki on knockdown
>>716230396GG, Gorilla Kohaku too strong for me.
>>716236810No it's a problem with OKI
If you keep giving enough knockdown advantage that players can get on top of each other to take oki after every single interaction then it doesn't matter if they slimed there or crawled there
What did "knockdowns without oki" mean in your head dipshit? Were you imagining some gentleman's rule where people aren't allowed to approach each other on the ground? Knockdowns which don't give oki look like this
>>716237109ggs. be mindful with your cheese slicer range and learn to do safe on block DP.
you wasted a lot of the oki opportunities on weird things like sj8 (left/right attempt?) or teleporting into the midscreen
>>716237937>>716237109wait you two guys were playing? i joined via the link and the lobby was empty
am i tweaking
do i need to take meds
>>716238204With the way AACC "lobbies" work, you'd probably end up waiting until they were done anyway.
>>716238204yeah that should not be happening
>other game
>play have fun get better
>fg
>mandatory 1000hours vs training dummy
>>716238706>t. learning disability
>>716170273 (OP)fighting games don't have netcode or playerbases that are large enough to bother with
>>716238783Don't feed the trolls.
>>716238835what does a "large enough" netcode mean?
>>716237937Yeah I can do the safe DP on 1P side in training mode lol.
I tried to do cheeky shit with fastfall but my timing is off because I didn't really lab much.
Guess I'll rewatch some replays and pay attention to what I did wrong.
>>716238204Usually you should still see the player even if they are ingame. But Concerto is kinda buggy anyway.
>>716238970you're chunking it wrong
>>716191616nice reply, still not playing fighting games, enjoy
>>716241206Eating lunch right now, I'll hop on in like 30 minutes.
which fighting games are from ohio