Thread 716184651

>the "funny situation" Newell foresees whereby people who can't code become "more effective developers of value" than those who've been coding for a decade.
>"So if I had to point to a technology transition to get in front of, it's to figure out how to use AI to do anything better. If you wanna be an accountant, learn AI, if you want to be an attorney, learn AI, if you're gonna be a programmer, you know, make sure that you know how to use the tools that are comfortable with those programming concepts. That all seems super obvious."
>"Similarly on the internet there were the companies and individuals who saw the opportunity and took advantage of those opportunities to create more value either as an individual or as a corporation and they zoomed ahead of everybody else. So essentially AI is going to be a cheat code for people who want to take advantage of it."

Gabe Newell has spoken, he saw the future in steam and now he sees the future in AI, why havent you started using AI for everything right now?

>>716184651 (OP)
>jew lies about hiring jeets for customer service and calling it AI
wow cool thread rabbi

>>716184651 (OP)
I dont see what's wrong with AI if gabe likes it

>>716184651 (OP)
Why is he living on a yacht now? Does he think WW3 is starting soon?

I really don't care what fat gandalf has to say.

Problem is I don't want to consume content produced by people leveraging AI, so no, they're not producing more value, they're producing zero.

>>716184651 (OP)
Fuck this fat faggot. I'm buying all my games on EGS from now on.

>>716184651 (OP)
everybody who works in an office should already know this. It worrisome though because it seems to be cutting out a lot of grunt work which means less of those young aids who you can have run around

>>716184651 (OP)
>gabe fell for the AI meme
Sad.

Lol we tried to warn ya, steamies. Gabe is literally elon musk if he didnt have his chudout. He says all the same shit, buys into all the same shit, and invests in all the same shit. He even did the billionaire thing where he says he is always working lol

>>716186608
only weird pussies think this is a bad thing. however, i'm alarmed at the fact of your inability to act. there's a cheat code out there for you and you don't use it. what? you a woman or something?

>>716184651 (OP)
I don't care if AI takes jobs as long as theres a way for the people it replaces to survive. But we all know if companies wont allow that.

Normies still cant figure out how to dev even with Ai and map editors

>>716184651 (OP)
Twitter artists really underestimate how much the populace will happily gorge themselves on slop. But then, they should have already known that since people used to pay for their trash.

freemason

>>716187010
and that's where all the hatred actually comes from

>>716186847
>jeet trying to act cool

THEY TOLD ME TO LEARN TO CODE
AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Newell got lucky with steam, all his other failures like the steam machine and steam deck show he is no visionary

>>716187184
Should've went into IT. GhatGPT won't come to your cubicle to hard reboot your machine when Adobe Reader stops working.

>>716187114
>no argument
>brings up poos
Equivalent of a woman, honestly

>>716185607
>Now
He's had the yacht for a decade, Anon.

>>716185765
Your platform is shit, tim.

>>716184651 (OP)
>whereby people who can't code become "more effective developers of value" than those who've been coding for a decade.
literally what is happening right now, I've had the displeasure of working with old farts with years of coding experience who refuse to use anything newer than netbeans because "it foments bad practices" and "makes you lazier"
cool story bro, while you were trying to merge the repo in your shitty linux terminal i already remade the whole frontend to something that looks made this century

>>716184778
>AI doesn’t exist
Is this the new narrative? Just invest in tech companies already

>>716184651 (OP)
LLMs are very good tools if you know how to use them to add value to your work

>Don't learn how to do something
>Learn how to control AI so it can do something for you

Seems like a grim path for humanity to take.

>>716190802
We'll end up like the techpriests of Mars, trying to placate the Machine Spirits

>>716190802
it's just next level calculators essentially

>pulls multiple wrong stack overflows from SIRS
>Deletes your entire codebase
>Companies start rushing to hire devs at 10x the rate
The reason retard companies can get away with this shit is because they all maintain instead of build

>>716190802
are you against hand tools? power tools? where is the line for humanity to stop using tools for things we can't do ourselves

>>716191197
I don't use hammers
I just use my fists

>>716190657
>just invest in tech compan-ack!

>>716187512
and you'll always have a job fixing the things AI fucks up

>>716191197
do you guys have literally any other arguments

>>716184651 (OP)
>AI
>Makes everything simple
>Have to learn it
Wut

All the 'idea guys' that were blocked out of creation will suddenly get their chance. We'll finally see innovation again while huge sequel mill corporations all tank.

>>716184651 (OP)
I've used it here and there but it doesn't seem to be good / reliable enough yet. I frequently get hallucinations and basically lies from these things, I have to fact-check everything from actual human sources to be able to trust it.

>>716191609
Apparently Copilot is great for coding if you know what you're doing and and keep an eye on it.

>>716191323
And you'll always have a job reminding people who have jobs that they have a job

>>716191795
that seems pretty AI-replaceable actually

>>716184651 (OP)
I have tho. I never report to my boss without fact-checking the report with chatGPT

>>716191747
>if you know what you're doing
this is the big one
AI will give you big chunks of what you ask for quickly, but you still have to have the knowledge to sanity check it and make sure it's actually doing what you want it to

>>716191320
>UK
lol

Can't invent a new phone people want? Add the AI label to it.

>>716184651 (OP)
I'm an analyst at a multibillion company. I use Copilot and GPT daily.

If I were an artist who does commissions, I would create a lora of my own style and modify what I generate if it has errors.
Imagine how much time you could save with that.

>>716192215
Daily, you say? Seems like we could replace you with an Indian that costs a tenth of your salary, expect your severance package by the end of the week.

>>716192274
This works for anime porn commissions where everything looks the same anyway.

>>716192274
Lora this
>unzips

>>716184651 (OP)
>will be

>>716192304
Quite the contrary, I've won two consecutive awards for the best employee of the year at the branch I work for.
They praise how fast I do my job.

>>716192274
I wonder what Bob Ross would say about shit like this if he were alive.

>>716192061
I occasionally look at Fireship on youtube, it's a coding channel
He sometimes demonstrate coding with AI, and it's just like that, the AI code often fails to run as given, but with a bit of tinkering it works
Here he is building a tic-tac-toe game with Gemini
https://youtu.be/qqP1ucSiVkE?t=124

>>716190802
you have to know how to do something to use ai to do it
no, shitting out tic tac toe #98534759 in 5 minutes doesn't count

>>716191609
Have the same problem with art generation.
>no, I want more of X
>okay...now this is a completely different image

>>716190657
Old narrative. Thank Amazon and their AI stores (which turned out to be jeets). A lot of real-world AI has turned out to be inefficient scams. The software stuff is trotting along fine, but I think managers at companies were hoping to replace low level wagies, not themselves.

>>716185607
He's larping as some sort of naval scientist. Has the best privately owned submarine, I think.

>>716192472
He wouldn't even fix the errors, call them happy little accidents instead.

>>716190802
There have always been those who know how to operate machines and those who know how to *build* them.
AI isn't much different in that regard.
Low-level prompters will generate artefacts that they cannot manually reproduce and fundamentally do not understand, while technical professionals architect and edit them.

>>716184651 (OP)
I think the fundamental issue with AI coding is
1. Code always have bugs, and those buggy code are used as data for AI.
2. Programmers are really opinionated about how to do things(just look at millions of new js frameworks appear everyday)
1 can only be fixed if AI evolve and self-correct its own source data
2 can never be fixed, it is like asking AI which politics opinion is the most correct

>>716184651 (OP)
>I have to be fake and gay and use AI to be fake and gay at everything I do or else I won't get ahead because everyone younger than me have spent their whole lives being fake and gay for the algorithm and have no qualms against being fake and gay as long as they chase the highest paycheck they can get outcompeting anyone who isn't lying on their resume

Is there anything equivalent to quitting and becoming a monk in modern life that's respectable? I'd become homeless but I don't want a bunch of zoomzooms to set me on fire because I fell asleep in the wrong part of town where shitheads get raised thinking lighting people on fire is funny

God I hate this fucking rubes Goldberg machine of a rat race they expect us to willingly participate in because they made everything else so fucking shit

>>716196173
Buy cheap land innawoods and build a cabin

>>716184651 (OP)
Because AI is slop and will continue to be slop for a long time. Gabe just likes playing with new toys he promptly discards when the next one appears.

>>716184651 (OP)
There is a guy in a band I work for who is blind. Learned how to play guitar via just listening to music and figuring it out. No classical training, he gets paid close to 45k yearly. No training. So, I kinda see what Gabe is saying.

>>716196541
The guitar is such a fucking meme

>>716196605
music is a meme, stay in school.

>wants to use AI to cheat
>wants to put chips in people's brains
This fat fuck jew should go to mars and disappear

How can I use AI to help me code? I have claude because of some weird school credit thing, I want to work in Godot, every time I ask it for code it seems like a poorly formatted jumbled mess

>>716184651 (OP)
I'm using it to create hentai art.
and just like VR, I already know it only works for Porn.

>>716196772
School is a meme, keep rocking on

>>716185726
This is equivalent to saying "I will never eat any foods containing <salt/sugar/etc>", there's always a microdose.

>>716197093
I don't think it knows Godot Script very well
It's more for Python or some sort of C++ based language
But have a look around youtube, there will be channels that get you up to speed on coding with AI help

>>716196772
>music is a meme
>t. suicide fog lad

>>716191379
Do they need more ?

>>716193326
Same shit happened when the internet was new. And the same retards today think it condemns the tech as a whole just cuz some people figured out how to run scams with the new things.

>>716197093
>>716197389
It works fine for GDScript. If you don't like something specific that it's outputting then you just need to add that as a rule, to the rules file.

>>716185726
Yeah, I don't look at images unless a person physically painted it. Digital art is just cheating, there's no real skill or patience there, the computer does most of the work.

>>716191379
>stop saying the obvious thing I can't argue against
lol

>>716192996
Tell this to people who passed their dissertations in a week by using gpt to write it for them