Growing up is realizing Mega Man 7 is the best of the classic series
>>716185278 (OP)Sprites too big and the game pretty much balanced around that somehow. Also; sectioned robot masters
https://youtu.be/3cNUXfuiVS8
The music is so good
>The game was made in less than 3 months
Even for back then that was just unheard of. Amazing that it still maintained a high level of quality
>>716185278 (OP)They're all good but I'd say 1 and 6 are the weakest. I don't get the hate for 7.
>>716185374That's what I enjoyed about 7. I liked the big sprites because it felt different from the previous games and broke the formula enough that it felt fresh to me.
>>716186069>I don't get the hate for 7 Two reasons probably. People might've been expecting more on a leap in the gameplay department after 3 X games on the SNES.
And number 2 sadly, YouTubers like Brentalfloss said it sucked and everyone latched on
>>716186069>I liked the big sprites because it felt different from the previous games and broke the formula enough that it felt fresh to meYou are dumb; the big spirtes did help the game but limited it and hinder the stage design. With older games you'd have the space to have multiple enemies on screen and space to move around, in 7 you have one enemy using almost a third of the screen and slim to no room to move. And then there's that sluggish movement.
It was really flawed
>jump over him
>He actually stops, looks back, and starts reversing it
Games need more soul like this
>>716186305Why would he be dumb for liking something you don't?
I always liked 7.
What I don't get is how 8 is on the PSX and yet it looks like shit compared to 7.
>>716186384Because the thing he likes was a genuine downgrade compared to other installments in the series. Even compared to 5 which is the weakest on the classic series
>>716186490I enjoyed Mega Man 7 because it challenged me more compared to the same exact formula that I was so familiar with that I'd rarely get hit. I'm not as good at platformers nowadays so I might dislike the game if I played it today.
>two or three instances in the game where bigger sprites are a hindrance like the wily stage where you float up in the water straight into spikes
>the final boss is actual bullshit. Yeah you can learn it but first time players will genuinely be screwed and forced to game over when they waste their E tanks and realize they can't beat it without going back to the shop to get more
>the ugly password system
Those are my only issues with the game.
>>716186641>I enjoyed Mega Man 7 because it challenged me more compared to the same exact formulaIt's the same formula but with zoom, anon
>>716186713I can kill the final boss without even taking damage. All of the complaints so far ITT amount to the game being "too hard."
>>716186641You know he's trolling you right? A lot of "posters" have been making incoherent arguments to people to get them riled up
Just ignore him and move on
>>716186778The levels and bosses all felt different for the reasons anon outlined already. It forced me to "relearn" how to play megaman since I had to be more cautious with my movement due to limited screen space.
The Robot Masters were really dynamic and fun in this game. Probably the best boss fights up till 11
>>716186838>le trollReturn to your forum, kid.
>>716185502>The game was made in less than 3 monthsJesus, that's actually fucking impressive. The game is pretty damn solid, I thought.
>>716186913>The levels and bosses all felt different for the reasons anon outlined alreadyIt's because the bigger sprite size, it fucked up the hitboxes and general feel of the game.
>>716186991What you consider "fucked up," I considered a nice change of pace and a new challenge. This simply boils down to me liking something that you don't.
>>716185502>The game was made in less than 3 monthsThis makes sense if you assume the sprites happened due using another game engine and the change of engine for the next game
>>716185374>AIEEEEEEEEEE SPRITES TOO BIG I MUST RELATE TO MY MICROSCOPIC DICK OR I CAN'T HAVE FUN
>>716187107>What you consider "fucked up," I considered a nice change of pace and a new challengeExcept there's no change in a meaningful way due what you called "change" being nothing more than reducing the aspect ratio on the game's screen. Nothing in MM7 changed from the games before as a formula, that's your biased impression
>>716187283*AIEEEEEE SPRITES TOO BIG I MUST RELATE TO MY PROPER SPACE TO HAVE LESS CHEAP TRAPS WHEN I TRY TO JUMP OR I CAN'T HAVE FUN
There is the myth of three months of development. But MM7 isn't even the best classic MM on the SNES.
>>716187284It changed the flow of the game and reduced the margin of error since your movement had to be very precise in order to avoid a boss's attacks. It caused me to up my game in order to master it. Back in the day, I could eventually kill every boss without taking a single hit and it felt good to master it. I didn't get that kind of satisfaction from any other previous mega man game outside of the first one because they were all pretty easy.
>>716186914> MM7 bosses> dynamicAnon, they just ram into the player and use projectile attacks. The only really difficult boss is Slash-Man, and half of the difficulty comes from his bubble and invincibility.
>>716187457>But MM7 isn't even the best classic MM on the SNES.Fellow M&B enjoyer
>>716187545This game is really good. Does it share problems with MM7? Yes, but it's better paced and Bass is a blast to play.
>>716187498>reduced the margin of error since your movement had to be very precise in order to avoid a boss's attacksNothing different from the 6 previous games.
>I didn't get that kind of satisfaction from any other previous mega man gameYou can simply zoom the old game via emulator to look more like 7 in aspect ratio and you could replicate it. You also have MMZ as a game that affected players due aspect ratio except that one is really easy outside 2 stages.
>>716186982>>716187172If I'm not mistaken they took the X3 engine and tinkered with it for this game. They also brought back a bunch of old members for it, kinda like a reunion.
Which makes sense since 8 and Bass are....not very good compared to 7...
>>716187545>M&Bthis game is kinda shit and the ost is awful at times, maybe its because i played as megaman instead of bass.
>>716187612>Does it share problems with MM7?No, MM7 is the only one with bigass sprites. M&B has the same engine as MM8.
>>716187679Doesn't looks like the X games imo. But that would require knowing the finer details around visuals. Wasn't MM3 also done in short time?
Imagine defending a piece of shit like MegaMan & Bass. At least 8 looks and sounds great and is easy so you kinda get it. & Bass is just awful all around
>>716187678>Nothing different from the 6 previous gamesExcept it was way easier to see attacks coming in the older games and in general, Mega Man 7 felt more "slowed down" especially his slide. I enjoyed the slower pace because it provided me with a nice contrast to the X games that I was already very familiar with (and had played to death already).
>>716187679>Which makes sense since 8 and Bass are....not very good compared to 7...7 is below 8 and M&B. Mega and Bass is way too hated, it's great and more challenging than 8 at least.
>>716187820MM3 had hard crunch going on with some other problems. They also thought it was gonna come out in December but it was coming out in September kek.
>>716187354Skill issue desu
>>716187862>Except it was way easier to see attacks coming in the older games and in general, Mega Man 7 felt more "slowed down" especially his slideYes, because 7 was a downgrade; big sprites hindering movement, sluggish movement on its own, fucked up hitboxes due sprite size.
7 is better then 3 for sure. Itโs way overhated
>>716187959All of your complaints I saw as positives and a new challenge to overcome. I have a feeling that you didn't play as much mega man as I did back then. When I was a kid, I didn't complain about silly shit like "hit boxes" and "big sprites." That sounds like something a middle age streamer or youtuber would complain about for money and engagement.
>>716187996My only gripe with 3 are the dokurobots, 7 haters act like megaman occupies the entire screen, clowns the lot of them.
>>716185278 (OP)It's only better than &Bass and 8
>>716188089Not my complaints; widely regarded flaws. You're the one coping poorly using the fact you like it as deflection. You like it, understandable, but you're using it trying to deny something you cant deal about it.
>>716185278 (OP)Brentalfloss's shitty song popularized the idea that 7 was shit
>>716187959You obviously havenโt played the game and are just copying the retarded vr opinion
>S tier
2
3
9
X
X2
>A tier
6
10
11
X3
X4
>B tier
4
5
7
Legends 1
Legends 2
>C tier
8
MM&B
X5
X6
>D tier
X8
>F tier
X7
Never played any ZX, Starforce, or Battle Network games.
>>716188343It sounds like something gamers lacking in skill use as a cope. All of these megaman games have problems. None of them are perfect--they're all flawed. I appreciate the flaws that these games have because they are extremely formulaic otherwise. Latching onto those flaws to stomp your feet and shit up a thread for an hour makes me think that the game was just too hard for you and it's sour grapes. Maybe you just like to bitch like an old woman.
>>716188582He for sure got filtered by Willy
They were all great fights
>>716188353I still get his MM2 opening song with lyrics video stuck in my head whenever I listen to MM2's opening
But it's true that 7 sucks. Splintering the Robot Masters into 2 sets did nothing for the game. The game was made in a hurry and it shows in the level design. The sprites were unironically too big relative to screen size. The music is some of the weakest in the classic series even with Shade Man being taken into account. It's too easy with the exception of the Wily Machine. It's not as terrible as what followed it, but Mega Man in the latter half of the 90s was on a huge downward trajectory in terms of quality and MM7 was arguably the starting point for that trend.
>>716188390>>716188582>coping this hardI beat all the games at the time in order.
>None of them are perfect--they're all flawed.Megaman 9 is the MM2 angle perfected.
>>716188435>S tier7, 9, X, X4
>A tier4, 11
>B tier2, 3, 6, 8, X6, Powered Up, Maverick Hunter X
>C tier1, 10, X2, X3, X5, X8
>D tier5, X7
>F tier& Bass
You know I'm right. It's okay, I get that a lot.
>>716188582>Latching onto those flaws to stomp your feet and shit up a thread for an hour makes me think that the game was just too hard for you and it's sour grapes.My favorite is X6 due being harder but unlike you I'm not retarded to the point to be beligerant trying to pass a flawed game as good or "different" just because I liked it.
>>716185502>Even for back then that was just unheard of.Anon, MM2 was the same. And so was either 4 or 5.
>>716188850I wish 11 was a bit harder
>>716188923>X7 above anything https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfTsvWTtoiQ
>>716188763>Splintering the Robot Masters into 2 sets did nothing for the game>proceed to keep at it after itwho the fuck was the retard that thought in that?! At least MMZ had a proper use of it
>>716189002Just goes to show how awful M&B is.
Anyone who likes that game seriously needs to get an MRI scan because it's atrocious beyond belief.
At least X7 is like Sonic 06 where you can laugh at it.
>>716188625There's no hard Willy machine
>Springman quick kill
Still makes me laugh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpEZiOPE-ls
>>716188949>I'm not retarded to the point to be beligerant trying to pass a flawed game as good or "different" just because I liked it.Do you see me making videos about how amazing mega man 7 is? I'm not pushing some fucking agenda. I'm just saying that I liked it because that's what this thread is about you fucking dipshit. Go make a megaman 7 hate thread.
>>716185278 (OP)It's good if you play it in a vacuum, but at the time: X totally mogged it and 7 felt like a gameplay and presentation downgrade.
>>716186826>I can kill the final boss without even taking damageHow long did it take you to do that?
>>716189110&Bass is bad, yes, but X7 really is the bottom of the barrel. The only MM games I could even put ON PAR with it are the DOS games. If the DOS games are the Mega Man equivalent of the Zelda CD-I games, then X7 is the Mega Man equivalent of Skyward Sword.
>>7161892647 rentals or so
>>716188923>MM7 S tier>X2 in C tier>X7 not at the lowest>M&B in F tierDoes /v/ has a resident megaman 7 schizo now or anything? Sounds like bait to on purpose
>>716189152I see you hellbent coping defending flaws everyone has known for decades now online. So yeah, pushing an agenda could be possible at that point.
>I'm just saying that I liked it because that's what this thread is about you fucking dipshit>OP states it's the best of the classic branchSo it's the usual case of "OP is a faggot", I see now.
>>716189323X2 sucks and yes M&B is the worst one
>>716189224>Shoot with the only weakness it has to deal damage>????>profitIt's that easy, namefag
>>716189057At least they didn't bring it back for 9 - 11.
>>716189370>Calling Wily Capsule easyYou didn't play the game. Even people who can no damage it know it's still a hard boss
>>716189370Usually. But fuck 7.
>>716189348X2 is an improvement over the original MMX. The worst classic megaman is 5
>>716189416>Even people who can no damage it know it's still a hard bossIt's easy; people says that due dealing high damage. Same as Sigma in X3
>>716189441No actual human being in the history of anywhere anytime anyplace has ever said X2 was better than X1
Begone.
I hate this faggot J's Reviews https://youtu.be/GmxbAK4sr50
Just needed to get that out there. I fucking hate autistic video essayist "reviewers". Are there any GOOD Rocktubers?
>>716189437You can find sweetsposts as always to deal with its pattern easier. But yeah, it's annoying; not actually hard.
>>71618899811 can get pretty difficult, especially if you play on hard mode and don't use the gears. I consider the bosses in 11 to be the hardest in the series by a long shot if you no-gear + buster them.
Whoever thought Torchman's stage was okay to do with buster only can choke on my nuts
>>716189530>Watching J's shitviewsThe only good MegaMan YouTubers I know are Nico Evaluates and ExploDijin.
I also like SomeCallMeJohnny's Mega Man videos but he's not really a MM YouTuber
>>7161894415 is still better than 7, 8, and &Bass, oh KoG
>>716189505>No actual human being in the history of anywhere anytime anyplace has ever said X2 was better than X1X1 has the memorable factor to it, that made people overlook X2 improvements and tweaks. So yeah, it's an improvement over the first one but the first one was so good most don't feel it enough to notice it
>>716189323I'm not "hellbent" on trying to defend the game. You're autistic and angry because not everyone ITT is trying to shit on the game. I was explaining why I liked the game and how what you and "content creators" see as flaws, I saw as a positive challenge to overcome as a kid. I was trying to get you to understand that other people perceive things differently than do by giving you a window into my thought process. Putting yourself into another person's shoes requires the ability to process empathy, though. Your autistic lizard brain isn't capable of that.
I want to fuck Roll. Anyone else agree?
>>716188923>>716189110>>716189348>got so filtered by a little challenge he has to pretend its somehow worse than literal shoveware.
>>716189628Nah, 7, 8 and m&b have at least one redeeming quality over 5. MM5 is just way too easy, you deal way too much damage killing the little to none challenge even more and the robot masters and stages are completely forgettable or gimmicky at best. Still, the whole classic series is solid at its worst and that worst is 5
>>716185278 (OP)I would just like to say that the stage start theme in MM3 is far superior to the overused original one
>>716189696Hey. Stay away from my daughteru.
Unless you mean Legends or BN.
>>716189719All megaman games are shovelware
I like how no matter who says what is their favorite game, everyone universally agreed 5 is the worst one kek
>>716189647>I'm not "hellbent" on trying to defend the game.>has been coping from the start of the thread>You're autistic and angryt.
>>716189696Same!
>>716189801Dr Light literally built her for "HUMAN SERVICING" AWOOGA!!!!
>>7161897572, as always, is superior to 3 in that way as well
>>716189808Overtheline.jpg
Anybody ever play the Gameboy ones? I remember liking them back then but dunno if they'd hold up
>>716189530I like J's reviews but I've noticed in the past couple of years that he sounds a lot more smug in his videos.
>>716189840I have you nailed down and you know it, retard.
>>716188923>X6 in B tierWell holy goddamn...
The first mm is the worst
>>716189985The game you whiteknight is not as good as you want to believe.
>>716189981I played 2 and I still think it has the better Air Man theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs_uIiAZhXE
>>716189745They might have SOMETHING they do better than 5, but none of them are overall better than 5 in any way. 5 is completely mediocre, true, but 6/10 across the board is still better than 4/10 in every category except one that is 8/10.
>>7161899811 is meh, 2 is shit, and 3 through 5 get better with each game.
Classic Series kinda shits all over the X series when you think about it
The only bad Classic games are....M&B? Maybe 8 if you squint?
X has 2,3,5,7,8, and the awful Command Mission rpg. Yet people dick suck X
>>716190048I think it's as good as any other megaman game. They're all 6 - 7/10 games outside of X6 on which aren't worth playing.
which dead franchise is coming back first, megaman, ace attorney, or marvel vs capcom?
https://youtu.be/KJsn_C9rvIQ
I wish Mega Man 3 had more development time so it could have gotten a cool title screen like 2. It's a shame the best song in the series is wasted on this bland ass title screen.
>>716189981All five of them got colorization hacks recently.
They don't touch the gameplay, just minor bug fixes and performance improvements by using the GBC's full processing speed.
>>716190083All have better stages than 5. MM5 is stuck at the lowest tier.
>>716190069Hmmm that's fightin words, NES Air Man is a top 5 series song imo
https://youtu.be/IhK4D3ytYMc
>>716190108Nah, 8 is complete and utter dogshit. Indefensibly so. Everything about it is bad except for the music. M&B is, I'd argue, even slightly, very slightly, better.
>>716190146Marvel vs is forever dead, Marvel abandoned Capcom.
MegaMan gets one game per decade now if anything's to go by so AA7 is probably next
>>716190146In terms of chance to come back:
Ace Attorney > Mega Man > MvC > Dark Stalkers
>>716190115>I think it's as good as any other megaman game.See, that's the problem; blinded by personal choice, in reality MM7 is on the second half of the games, in the weak side. It's fine to like it, anything more is being flat out wrong
>>716186069>I'd say 1 and 6 are the weakest6 unironically has the best music of the originals
>>716190379What annoyed me the most about 6 was the constant switching between suits in the menu. I was doing it constantly in Wily's castle
>>716190193NES Air Man is nowhere near top 5. Not even top 10. Off the top of my head, my top 10 would be
>Wily Castle 1 (MM2)>Hard Man>Crash Man>MM2 title theme>MM3 stage select theme>MM3 title theme>Wily Castle 2 (MM9)>Shade Man>Tornado Man>Galaxy ManIf the castle, title, and stage themes don't count, then I'd also throw the following on the list ahead of Air Man:
>Shadow Man>Magnet Man>Elec Man>Tomahawk Man>Metal Man
>>7161906202, 3, and 9 really did have the best music in the series. The only game that's even close is MMX
It's good but the movement speed felt a little too slow
>>716187679> kind of like a reunionno, itโs because they had to call in veterans to crunch the game across the finish line.
https://youtu.be/-PceDnkPCmA
>>716190325I found them all fun up until Mega Man X5 - 6 which I suffered through. I hated X7 so much that I stopped playing the series entirely. Even though I beat these games countless times as a kid, I don't think they're excellent games. They're all flawed but the fact that they're short and sweet allowed me to enjoy them more than I probably would have if they were much longer.
I do think the original Mega Man X is an excellent game, though. That's probably my personal favorite Mega Man game in general.
>>716190919I can't defeat air man...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsj0mY13t9s
If you don't tear up when watching/listening to Okkusenman, you're not old enough to discuss Mega Man.
>>716190809I didn't say it was a good reunion
>>716190929It's remarkable how bad X7 is. Out of the entire classic and X series, it's the only one that's a legitimately horrible game. The others can be hit or miss depending on your tastes, but each one is at a minimum a middle of the road game worth playing.
>>716189638X2 does absolutely nothing better than the first. Not visuals, not gameplay, not music.
>>716189981They're the main way I got to play Megaman. I enjoyed them all, but 5 was especially good.
>>716191063But it's a song of hope!
>>716191258>X2 does absolutely nothing better than the first.Buster upgrade, content + extra ending
>>716191258While I like X1 far more than X2, I thought fighting Zero was cool as fuck back in the day. He also had a bad ass theme to pump you up during the fight.
>>716191339I mean, he gets a wife in the end so sure, but everyone born after 1980 (so every Millennial and Zoomer) that can feel the song in their souls can't relate either.
It's a hopeful song for the Gen Xers.
>>716191485Because X2 ost was top tier one the bassline/percussion side; that sick beat hypes the fuck out
Is 9 the best Classic Mega Man game?
>>716191810Probably, they nailed everything about that game
Only flaw is a bit cheap in some spots and no slide or charge
>>716189291&Bass is just a copium version of 8 I think it's fine for what it is at the end of the day
>>716189441lookin for thi5?
Never played 9 and 10. What's the best version?
>>7161899813 had the best title screen music out of all of them
>>716191810Most definetly unless you're a 3 fan. It's unreal how perfect 9 was.
>>716192058Wii
THESE....appeaw to be megaman posts
>>716186264suddenly all the hate for him makes perfect sense.
>>716185278 (OP)i don't know how i feel living to see a bizzarro world where the running zeitgeist is MM7 is bad and Sonic '06 is good.
>>716189604>ExploDijinNobody comes up when I search that
>>716191981it's a better version of 8 with more challenge.
>>716191063Back when it came out I didn't understand what living like you were being chased by something meant. Now I do.
This is the best classic Mega Man, but /v/ isn't ready for that conversation.
ehehe
md5: f8e95f90a2522e16ce07f7431d80476f
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>>716189224SHUT THE FUCK UP BOCO-CHAN
>>716192058They're all pretty much the same versions
>>716192303Small channel
https://youtu.be/x6U0bzpyEWY
There's also MegaFan that I like
https://youtu.be/pDxI9K2RaHE
>>716194740Cool. Appreciate it.
>>716192165Dash a gewd kweshun
I intensely dislike Mega Man 8 and I don't want to finish it
>>716195661i honestly don't know about "intensely" but yeah i can see why Sony of America rejected Mega Man 8 initially and had to be strong armed into accepting.
>>716188923Terrible taste, not surprising that it came from a Rollnigger.
Astro Man's stage fucking sucks in MM8
>>716196331Oh sorry I was wrong, actually Sword Man's stage fucking sucks donkey horse shit
What the fuck were they thinking making this shit?
>>716198704Oh, if you game over you can continue from the second half of the stage?
Okay then, MM8 did ONE thing right I suppose
Your dogshit opinion aside I dont want to play another classic game again. It's the least innovative between the other series how many times do we have to do the same shit before I go insane.
>>716188435>Never played any ZX, Starforce, or Battle Network games.The Zero games are all kino, ZX is meh, Battle Network 2, 3, 5, and 6 are good to great, 1 is clunky, 4 is awful, never played Starforce.
>>716200751starforce 1 is a more polished version of bn1 with better characters
sf2 is like 10 tiny steps forward 2 giant steps back (many additions from bn are added like tribes being a mix between styles and crosses and random QOL stuff but the 2 steps backwards is that writing and characterization is similar to bn4 and the encounter rate can be insanely annoying)
sf3 goes back on track from the characterization of sf1 but with a better villain group and they fixed the encounter rate, the noise gauge is also a much more fun mechanic than tribes/souls/crosses/styles definitely the best game of both series since imo bn never reached its full potential compared to starforce even though its battle system easily runs circles around star force but i guess they knew better when making star force 3.
>>716186713Thanks for the password SUCKER! HAHAHA
>>716187828Are you literally me?
>>716188850Absolutely not.
>>716189563Amusingly, I find Acid Man to be easier on Hard Mode than Normal, because the timing to dodge his stuff feels tighter and more intuitive
>>716185343Shame we didnโt get more games in 16 or 32 bit
>>716201886megaman 9 was supposed to be similar to 8 but inafking the con man wanted it to be 8 bit
>>716186713>going back to the shopAm I the only one that found the shop on complete accident while playing the game and accidentally pressing a wrong button on the select screen? I play the Anniversary Collection btw
>>716185278 (OP)I liked Rockman and Forte. Fuck the haters.
>>716202490I think the game would've been looked up on more favorably if it had etanks or the king tank stages were a bit less rude
>>716202537king stage 2 should've been 3 stages
the image for king stage 3 is one of the coolest images from the series and it's a shame we don't have a high res version of it
>removed E tanks for the sake of increasing artificial difficulty
>Removed all the Rush abilities for a stupid ass bike and shitty Eddie knockoff
>Limited bolts for garbage weapons, only 3 or 4 of them are useful.
>Every single stage is a gimmick, and that's not a good thing
>Multiple trash pixel perfect jumps in a game where Mega Man's hitbox is where it decides it wants to be at times
>Boring forgettable bosses
>The shittiest of all the Wily castles
Anyone who defends Mega Man 8 hasn't played it. They just added the OST onto their playlist and post pictures of the game going "Oooh SOOOO pretty, so it MUST be a good game!!!!"
And it doesn't even look that good. It looks worse than most of the X games and even 7. What a disgustingly bad game.
>>716203112Removing E Tanks and W Tanks is the biggest offender for me. MM8 was made by retards who never touched a MM game in their life
>>716202537Or if the Yellow Devil fight didn't exist
>>716203112>and post pictures of the game going "Oooh SOOOO pretty, so it MUST be a good game!!!!"It looks like shit though. All those extra pixels and it somehow came out looking awful compared to 7, both in art and animation.
>>716203373there is no yellow devil in megaman and bass
>>716203416The most noticable for me was Frost Man's entrance compared to Frost Walrus from X4
Walrus came in with this beautiful animation and scenery. And Frost Man's just looked like utter shit compared to that
>>716203373Are you confusing the green jello devil's appearances in MM8 and MM&B? In MM8 he's a fortress boss but in MM&B he's the intro stage boss.
>>716204654NTA but he probably is
I haven't played M&B but the Green Devil in 8 is pathetic. Just shoot two flash grenades and walk away, terrible
>>716205327I think it's visually one of the cooler looking devil fights, but not exactly challenging