>Baits you into thinking its short, actually 150 hours to 100% the game
>80 hours in you now have to replay the game several times
>Fight the same bosses 6 times with 0 change to their gimmick
>Side bosses stop giving you exp for some hilarious reason
>Think you can skip side content, actually the entire story revolves around the side bosses to the point the ending is nonsensical without doing certain bosses
>Gameplay balanced around street pass and fucking microtransactions, both made utterly useless by the passage of time and unusable on emulator
>Most early classes are complete garbage meanwhile late classes instead are overly broken and gives you several OTK builds (thankfully)
>The only 2 good twists are ruined by appaling execution and scenery
>The ending where you actually make a reasonable choice as a player is a fake ending you only know after finishing it
>Final boss is 5 phases of "lmao you want to attack, lemme one shot all your party with 0 possible counterplay" on loop for 3 hours. Legitimately unplayable without save states if you value mental sanity, those who did without and tell you it's fun are knowingly lying
>0 fucking reward for finishing the game, not even some new area, cool item or additional story

I'm probably the biggest retard for ever falling for this game art direction and I should have asked /v/ before playing for once. I think this garbage made me never want to play a jrpg ever again if I have to suffer through similar agony.

It was a great game up until the time loops.

>unusable on emulator
LOOOOOOSSSSSEEEEERRRRRRRRRRR
Works on my machine

I must be one of the rare few that don't mind the time loop
The slightly differences in every loop are fun
Kyon-kun, denwa~

>>716198570 (OP)
>Based around microtransactions
But it isn't. I never even used that function, not even the extra turns that stack up over days of not playing. Sounds like you are just bad at the game and needed the crutch.
>Save states
Lmao, yeah. You're just bad.

>>716198660
Streetpass doesn't work on Citra and if you do modify the game code manually it's basically cheating and same goes for bravely second if you alter your emulator's clock, you're better off relying on save states anyway, I used neither of the 2 mechanics regardless.

>>716199046
That's what I meant. Citra? More like Citra on your own nuts.
Get a 3DS. Trust me. It's going to be okay, you are allowed to buy things.

>>716198884
Lmao show me the run of you beating the final boss first try with no wiki.
If you cannot you're just a liar and never played the game, cope and suck on it.

>>716199124
>Playing the most boring game in existence on handeld
Lmao, fucking jrpgfag truly the most abysmal of taste. Thank god I didn't used by 3DS to play this fucking dogshit I wouldn't have survived the boredom without listening to something meanwhile grinding the same bosses 6 times in a row.

>>716199169
the final boss isn't even remotely hard if you've actually engaged with the game's job system
i realized pretty quick that i was hitting the damage cap before even hitting max level so when i saw low leverage i immediately knew i was on to something gamebreaking
use that shit and every boss in the game is a joke

>>716198570 (OP)
>half the list is bitching about time loop shenanigans
>late classes are too OP! oh but also let me bitch about final boss and leveling
>final boss isn't even bad
>only streetpass shit that matters is getting villagers, which is optional and mostly low quality side content, only good shit is the end game weapons
>if you shatter the crystal, DeRosso removes the seal on the lowest level of Dimension's Hasp, which will get you cool items, additional story and if you go true ending Yulyan removes the seal.
almost everything you said was gay and wrong
I have a feeling you didn't like the time loop nonsense (fair) and just made a whole cope thread padding it with dumb shit since you couldn't JUST say that

>>716199321
Actual monkey retard I didn't hit max level either and of course the boss isn't even hard because this game was made by retards with no concept of difficulty.
However having a phase which is "now I have 50% hp (something you cannot see unless you play the worst class in the game) i'm going to to an attack wiping your entire party which you will not know at all until I do it" is absolutely not difficult and is just tedious garbage to make you restart again and again.
>akshually I counted the damage I did after each attack and defaulted when the boss hit 50% on my very first playthrough because I knew it would do a party wipe at this exact moment
You're a fucking nigger. Also I can say that if you play white mage at all you didn't beat the game as well.

>>716199169
>save state abusing is the same as fighting any boss more than once
(You)
you fucking suck and are gay

>the game has themes of following your heart instead of orders
>if you notice you can break the cycle early on you get the bad ending for totally arbitrary reasons
fuck this game

>>716199630
>half the list is bitching about time loop shenanigans
Deservedly so.
>late classes are too OP! oh but also let me bitch about final boss and leveling
0 arguments made about defending bad game design alright.
>final boss isn't even bad
O my evil god namedropped in the last 20 hours of the game with 5 phases.
>only streetpass shit that matters is getting villagers, which is optional and mostly low quality side content, only good shit is the end game weapons
The final boss has an attack forcing you to either default or use streetpass friend to attack.
>if you shatter the crystal, DeRosso removes the seal on the lowest level of Dimension's Hasp, which will get you cool items, additional story and if you go true ending Yulyan removes the seal.
Farm more weapons for a gameplay loop that had run its course 100 hours in is really something I dream about.
I don't think a single shit that you claim isn't even an argument to defend the game, what about doing the same crystal awakening cutscene 20 times?

>>716199672
>i have low leverage up because i always have low leverage up
>attack that would kill me does half hp because low leverage is broken as shit
>durr you couldn't possibly have beaten it first try
lmao
thirdies are so funny

>>716199691
Show me your save file I'll wait because you probably suck cocks. Nevermind you never played the game.
>>716199860
Indeed.

>>716199860
Behold, the only genuine criticism of the game! Huzzah!
Yeah, the "good ending" is playing along when a young autistic teen can catch on that things are fishy

>>716200116
>Played commerce
You didn't beat the game.

>>716199860
>too stupid to realize that you're SUPPOSED to do the bad ending first which is why the game railroads you into it so hard
how are you dumber than the target audience of a JRPG

>>716200247
>too stupid to realize that you're SUPPOSED to do the bad ending first which is why the game railroads you into it so hard
>Player, you broke the cycle and defeated the lying fairy, now go through the reveal that she is evil again and fight her first 2 phases AGAIN despite already grinding the same 30 bosses 6 times already
I don't who is more retarded between the devs and the jrpg audience but I think both are literally subhumans to enjoy such garbage games.

>>716200417
>i HAVE to redo all the bosses every chapter
again, dumber than the target audience of a JRPG.

>>716200417
You still played through it all despite that though. If it was such an arduous task, then why not give up at chapter 5 or 6 instead of beating it?

>OP seriously thinks the freelancer class is bad
confirmed cum guzzling faggot. holy shit get filtered retard
I might understand your complaints about the loops (even though I do not share them), but the rest of the game is really well done and it's one of the best jrpgs of all time
>played on emulator and missed out on spotpass
>norende stuff mattering
OP confirmed triple faggot

you are literally supposed to break the game to beat it it's by design

>>716200517
>i HAVE to redo all the bosses every chapter
The game pushes you to do it lmao imagine being this much disingenuous. You have to fight the crystal bosses 5 times each, its obligatory to progress.
Not doing the side bosses keeps you from the only piece of narrative the game actually has past first loop, otherwise you'd be just grinding the same 4 crystals 5 times in a row and they are the easiest bosses to beat yet still takes 20-30 minutes each because of bloated hp. The only moment the game has actual character development are in the third world side bosses. Also if you don't fight derosso once you basically ignore like 80% of the most important dialogues to explain the lore.
>>716200521
The only thing I can give this game is the fact the first half before looping is legitimately good in all aspects and if they game stopped at that it would be an 8/10 for the job system alone. I expected the last boss to at least be more in line with first half rather than second half.

>>716200079
>b-bad game design!!
the entire job system is about mastering jobs and stacking abilities. No fucking shit late game jobs are going to be better, you need them to be better to properly use them. It wouldn't make sense to get insane OP abilities at the beginning or little incremental abilities at the very end when everything is har
>final boss shoehorned in
It's a JRPG about an evil god destroying shit, they're ALWAYS shoehorned in. That's just a critique of the medium at this point.
>streetpass shit DOES matter, one attack of ONE boss requires it! Unless you Default! One of the MAIN MECHANICS
You cannot possibly believe this was a good rebuttal, right?
>no rewards, no cool areas or items or story!
>actually there is a new area with items and story
>fuck that, I don't care
(You)
>what about -more cope about time loop-
yes anon, the time looping sucked, we all know
>>716200142
>Show me your save file I'll wait
I have done all content, have beaten all bosses, all characters are at lv.99 and I mastered all jobs
You're a faggot and a nigger

>>716200964
>I have done all content, have beaten all bosses, all characters are at lv.99 and I mastered all jobs
oh on actual hardware btw, no save state nonsense

>>716198570 (OP)
Its the best final fantasy game (not a high bar)

>>716200690
>played on emulator and missed out on spotpass
It literally doesn't use spotpass, onlyy streepass, you are quite simply lying.
>>OP seriously thinks the freelancer class is bad
freelancer is complete fucking dogshit unless you are on some otk build. It's unusable for the entire game and cheesing bosses can be done a million fucking way without relying on it. Its main strenght is unlocked with several lv14 classes ergo, when the game is already far fucking over.
>norende stuff mattering
I have genuinely never said this but the fact streetpass is present at all is a flaw. It's like if FF3 required the nes zapper to play some minigames, even if it wouldn't matter on the whole it would still make the mechanic unplayable by modern standard.

>>716198570 (OP)
>fight the same bosses 6 times
Yeah I stopped after refighting one of them. What a retarded waste of time. I play games to explore and the exploration was done.

>>716198570 (OP)
>150 hours
>80 hours in
what the fuck were you doing?

>>716201312
>Airy
SHE LIES, SHE'S INFESTED TO THE CORE. I FOR ONE WILL NO-

>>716200964
Lmao probably the biggest jrpg drone in history.
>It's alright the story is bad because it's a convention
>there's actual new reward and story in the dungeon making you fight the same ennemies you already fought during the whole game, you're just salty
>streetpass doesn't matter however, not like the game gives you ai friend to summon every 20 minutes + a whole button during fights are to summon and call streetpass assists + abilink + norende
>No fucking shit late game jobs are going to be better, you need them to be better to properly use them.
>doesn't mention the fact 4 ninjas with the easiest build imaginable are invincible against any boss without magical attack
>doesn't mention the fact 4 swordmaster spamming parries triviliaze the entire game the moment you unlock the class and require 0 brain power to play at any level
>think the issue is about getting insane OP ability at the beginning and not that the early classes are just not fun and bad for the entire first half compared to spell fencer and mages

You have confirmed my point by having 150 hours which is just the proof you spammed death group cast to farm until lv99 and farm lv14 classes easily, basically you cheesed the game like a drone and try to sell me on your dogshit experience.
You're a nigger and I'm glad you wasted the time to pick up your 3ds for this worthless showcase.

>>716201587
how can one nigga be this stupid
you just go literally anywhere after the first loop where the enemies get changed and spam group attack black magic for magic jobs or crescent moon for physical jobs
fucking retards think it's a grind

>>716201587
>you're bad and haven't played the game
>o-oh you actually completed the game? well way to prove my point!
>h-hhaha I a-acutally made you reach into your desk and grab your DS a foot away from you! EPIC WIN!!!
whatever makes you feel better anon
I hope one day you're able to default when the final boss uses its big attack

>>716201667
The game has anti-grind mechanics built in, lmao. Too few rpgs don't implement its mechanics.

>>716201667
Even if farming eternia ennemies you have to fight at least 50 battles to go from lv13 to 14, if it isn't grind then jrpgfags are just masochistic.

>>716201680
I beat the boss fair and square probably with 15 less levels than you did and probably without using a game breaking build for autists as well, as a matter of fact I am better than you.
Also still not providing any argument to why most classes are overly garbage for half the game meanwhile some others makes the game easier than pokemon when unlocked.

>>716201792
you need 24000 jp in total to take a job from 1 to 14
you can get 999 jp in a single battle at florem gardens after the first loop with the jp up item and maxed out battle chain bonuses
said battle also is over in one round of 4x braves
what the fuck are you talking about retardnigger

>>716202040
>jp up item
>requires lv10
>for 4 characters
>you can only know this support ability exist if you either exped up the worst job in the game to lv10 or read the wiki
>still 24 battles for one job
>there are 25
>do this on 4 characters and optimally you need one black mage lv14 with group cast
You are such a fucking retard I'm lost for words, when will you jrpgfags understand that spending more than 20 minutes spamming low level fights is unbearable for anyone but you braindead autists with severe mental deficiencies.
You have 150 hours, the exact same time as I do, for a game that has stopped being fun after 60 or so.

>>716202392
>he's so retarded he's mixing up items with abilities
this nigga DID NOT play the game

>>716202792
>mentions a norende item you get at lv9 shop
I thought norende was useless lmao fucking retard can't stay consistent for ten seconds. I also stated streetpass is unusable (optimally) on citra and I haven't used norende for anything past lv1 shops, if you did be glad you played on easy mode buddy this confirms once again I'm better than you at this game despite hating it.

>>716203257
>complains game is too long and grindy
>the solution is to use this mechanic that is accessible from the start
>NOOO I CAN'T DO THAT I'M ON EMULATOR SO IT'S NOT OPTIMAL. btw I'm better than you because I like shoving spiked dicks in my asshole while playing ;)
yeah, sure showed him lol

>>716198570 (OP)
>he didn't just smash the goddamn crystal the second he realized

>>716199293
>play game on handheld
>have tv on
>could listen to shit on your phone
Vs
>playing a portable gsme you dont enjoy on a desktop that costs 5x the price of the original hardware
A winner isnt you

>>716198570 (OP)
Imagine being filtered by the gameplay and not the timeloops lol. You are just bad at RPGs.

>>716198570 (OP)
I'm pretty sure I did absolutely everything the game had to offer (base 3DS version) with little to no difficulty in under 100 hours, but it's been a long time since I played. OP truly is a faggot and awful at vidya. So tragic.

>>716198570 (OP)
>80 hours for the first cycle
Did you leave the game on overnight or something? Or are you just bad at the game?
>got all classes, claims to know how broken they are, and still complains about dying to anything
Skill issue. Your entire party should be immortal by the time you reach the final boss

>>716204869
This fucking retard said norende was useless barely 10 post above, now claims the game isn't grindy because there's an item you can get after 120 hours to farm exp more easily, delusional behaviour.
>>716205093
I tried to smash the crystals before it was even accessible.
>>716205121
>Costs 5 times the price
Wtf is the correlation lmao who the hell am I arguing with, toddlers? You think I bought a pc to play 3ds games?
>have tv on
Nevermind you're a normalfag I havent watched tv since 2011.
>>716205125
>Filtered by gameplay
As seen above I apparently raped the game without some core mechanic to trivialize grind so I'd say it's more embarassing for you to be filtered by timeloops.
>>716205461
You played white mage and low leverage? You didnt beat the game unfortunately.
Truly jrpgfags proved me they are the absolute bottom of video game players. Play dogshit piss east game with rng elements and think they're good at video games. Thank god none of you ever touched a fighting game or classic beat em up because you couldn't finish any of them.

>>716198817
Why is she sitting like that?

>>716205806
>Your entire party should be immortal by the time you reach the final boss
Lmao once again someone who didnt beat the game fair and try to talk his shit.
I beat the final boss lv82 and you probably did at 99 with a one shot build you filthy scrub.

>>716205842
Autistic ESL meltdown, I'm not reading your nonsense. Meds, IMMEDIATELY.

>>716198570 (OP)
Never played this, but seemed like a generic mid RPG. That soundtrack is a fucking 10/10 banger though, on par with motoi sakuraba.

>>716205921
Post screenshot or webm of you beating the final boss at less than lv85 before responding thank you.
Otherwise you didnt beat the game.

>>716205901
What were you doing for 150 hours to stay at lvl 85?

>>716205869
maybe her butt hurts

>>716206143
From what?

>>716199672
ALWAYS examine bosses

>>716206106
Not grinding using unaccesible norende only items apparently. This reassure however that most people who talk here claim to have never struggled because they basically had 15+ levels in advance for every fights, still I don't know why people who played on easy mode talk about any form of difficulty.
The game is piss fucking easy and jrpgtoddlers think I said it was hard because I didnt wasted time to play 3 baby mode phases again to just to access a 3rd phase. All you fags used wiki anyway allegedly.

I heard the beginning was good and the end was bad. Do you really have to play the game twice?

>>716199672
>the worst class in the game
>>716202392
>the worst job in the game

You are bad at the game because you dont love onion knight enough. Its not the games problem, its your problem.

>>716206269
from playing Bravely Default on an emulator

>>716206539
5 times.
If you skip most of the content it will still feel like 3 at least.

>>716206624
You are bad at the game and lying about freelancer being good lmao.
It's the worst job by far for anything but cheese with better jobs alongside and the fact none of you have still provided a single argument to why it's actually good proves how full of shit you are.
Dark knight is a good job because you can one shot most bosses with like 3 and a white mage or spiritmaster.
Ninja is a good job because 4 ninjas makes dragons unable to touch you (or most of the game if that matters).
Freelancer is dogshit for the whole game until you realize it has some uses after finishing the game and learn you can use mimic to cheese fights (you could have done with other jobs anyway).

>>716206669
iirc you don't even need to do all the bosses every time you repeat the cycle

The only criticism I agree with is the "break the crystals" ending being the bad ending.
It goes against the themes of the game.

Everything else is amazing.

>>716200417
>it's bad... ON PURPOSE
...okay?

Anyone got the faggot who got filtered by FFVI final dungeon and even posted his savefile only to get BTFO by everyone in the thread?
Same energy