Why do gamers unanimously pick the right over the left?

Blonde girls are the hottest

Is there a brown version?

>>716221807 (OP)
I like anime girls with happy faces.

>>716221807 (OP)
Because she looks like she is into CBT

>name: Alice

>>716222474
>class: Alice
>race: Alice

I don't want either

>>716221807 (OP)
Irony and the fact that she reminds them of Fang (blonde war magus) from EO2 for obvious reasons.

>>716221807 (OP)
Meiracore

>>716221807 (OP)
Energetic

>>716224000
SEXOO

>>716221807 (OP)
Because fang

>>716224000
>only in the 2nd game
damn. but to be fair would probably die to a trap

both are good
hey I tried to play one of these games, I picked that dancer and I couldn't concentrate so I had to drop the game

>>716221807 (OP)
Left, since she looks more serious and determined. Right doesn't look like she fits the class.
Which Etrian Odyssey to start with?

>>716224000
I didn't know etrian did anthro. Are there any more?

>>716221807 (OP)
Only an utterly merciless and bloodthirsty creature can face the horrors that dwell in the deeper areas of the labyrinth and prevail.

>>716225716
uh 5 or the remakes

>>716225806
There's also a bunny girl, but that's it. They were basically just a one-time thing.

>>716225716
1 if you've played an RPG before.
4 if you haven't.

>>716221807 (OP)
Right looks happier.

>>716221807 (OP)
For me, left.

>>716221807 (OP)
I pick the left though. I still love me my blonde girls. But Samurai is Samurai. My shogun. The punished Yamato Nadeshiko warrior.

I chose picrel
really not a very good class when gladiator exists

>>716221807 (OP)
As long as she's flat

>>716226571
God fucking damn it. Well which game are they in?

>>716225716
3 because it's got great dungeon and class design and is readily available through the HD port (please buy it so atlus doesn't just make more persona forever)

>>716226571
Need bunny + cunny

Ronin best girl even if her class sucks

>>716225716
3, I've learned to push back against people recommending 1 because newcomers don't get to appreciate how good the combat and encounter design is starting with the original.

>>716222163

>>716229103

>>716227330
4
it's one of the unlockable classes

>>716227330
>>716229441
Also, you could technically use their portraits in EO Nexus if you got the EO4 DLC. Not a bad fit for the Shogun class.

>>716228698
she's good half in half of the games.

>>716221807 (OP)
I picked left, fuck you

>>716225716
3 is the best all around one but it suffers a bit from grindy bullshit that got fixed in 4 like how gather points work.

>>716227203
Wow she's flat!

bumping for hot underaged 2D chicks

>>716221807 (OP)
More vibrant color design so it speaks more loudly than left. Left could've had more decorative color difference in her dress and still kept her color scheme the same to appear more attractive but nope.

>>716233118
Left has the standard miko colors.

>>716233201
They should've made her outfit more miko-coded for sure then to make the connection visually better, that would've made people pick her.

>>716221807 (OP)
Fang shogun is the only one that exists as far as I'm concerned. I mean, just look at her.

>>716233000
>Underage.
My entire party is 18 years old they're just suspiciously flat

>>716233710
I just consider their art to be chibi art, that's all.

>>716225716
4 is the newbie entry
3 is solid all-around
1 is janky and a mess in programming but the true start of the series
Untold: Millennium Girl was an attempt to get more players to start because of Story Mode... but everyone hates the concept of it and just plays Classic, for good reasons.

>>716227203
>gatcha: smt4

>>716227203

>There's like three or four dungeon crawlers ever made
>two of them with lolis
>Don't like the artstyle on this one
>The other one got nuked by steam and only has a couple entries
bweh

>>716235121
You only see your characters in the status screen in EO so what the fuck is your issue?

Will samurai chan save me from abyssal god

>>716235121
Have you tried Legend of Grimrock?

>>716235251
no one can save you from bad fatlus design

>>716235251
With proper setup with other Shoguns and buffers, maybe.

>>716235121
You don't have to use the loli portraits

FIVE BEARS. NO MASTERS

>>716235285
Looks neat but where are the lolis?
>>716235428
But I want to. I just don't like the art style.

>>716221807 (OP)
I don't. Left looks much better

I'm going to use a Yggdroid in my next party
What kind of strategy should I use?

>>716236593
solo, /zodiac built around the elemental walls is the most fun
Yggdroid have no party synergy

>>716236786
You mean the bots?

>>716236593
ygg/glad is a solid physical unit. Nothing fancy, just a glad with ygg's great statline and passives instead of the usual glad/arb or whatever people usually do with glad. ygg/monk for punching is probably okay too but missing out on a charge skill makes ygg pretty sad.

I love little samuraiesses

I think I replayed untold 1 like 4 times and for some reason I can't move on to newer titles, I never played 3 or any newer etriam.

>>716238370
You are missing out, 3 is incredible

I started EO2 HD a few days ago. This is the best portrait in the series.

How story heavy is etrian? Saying this as someone who likes having an actual plot going on kinda like how labyrinth of refrain did it.

>>716239112
minimal. The untold games both have a story mode that has a bit more story to them but still not that much. Of the others 3 does at least have a little bit of a branching story and 3 endings but I still wouldn't say there's a lot of story.

>>716239112
There is a story, but it is very much in the background

>>716239112
It's genuinely like the zanzibart dark souls meme - some background lore, lite dialogue, story conveyed sparsely through odds and ends and the environment itself. You're supposed to rely heavily on your imaginashun or just not care that much.

>>716221807 (OP)
I want the left

>>716233685
gwemlin

>>716233685
God I wish she would kaishaku me

New Etrian WHEN? FUCK!

>>716235615

wtf is this titty jump scare?

>>716240989
Too fat, she looks like she'd be out of breath after every floor

>>716233710
>>716233770
cope, hebephile

>>716240989
Some Etrian girls have tits. It's always been like that.

First games classes don't seem all that interesting honestly.
Ronin and hexer are blocked off too. When do I unlock those?

>>716241923
you should play untold on classic expert and just have them from the start

>>716241923
5th stratum and they both suck.

>>716241976
>have them from the start
I think this made EOU significantly harder for me, as someone who didn't play EO1 proper (HD) until much later. I picked a Ronin and my god, did she suck, but I forced myself to stick with her because I didn't know any better.

>>716241923
Yeah, the first game's teambuilding is basically non-existant. Every party needs a Landsknecht because they're the most consistent physical damage, an Alchemist because they're the most consistent magic damage, a Medic because they're the only healer, and a Protector because they're the only tank. Ronin and Hexer basically aren't worth using since they come so late, so your 5th slot is up to whatever personal flavor you want from the last 3 classes. At least there's no wrong answer between them, but still.

>>716242538
>landshark and alchemist
>must haves
>zero mention of survivalist

>>716221807 (OP)
I chose the young male samurai though

>>716241923
ronin is somewhere in the 3rd stratum I think and hexer is early 4th. Both kind of suck.
ronin is a damage dealer that needs to spend turns buffing up to enable attack skills, but doesn't do anything better than the other damage classes to make up for being so cumbersome. Hexer is ailments are worse defensively than your protector/medic buffs, and your offensive debuffs are very weak so they don't really do anything.
Both are buffed and very good in the second game. Hexer in particular is the best class in the game.

>>716234140
monke

>>716242534
I've had ronin in my recent run and despite me wanting to hate on it, turns out it's quite effective provided you build it right(swallow strike 10 asap) and you feed it buffs and amritas it does deal a lot of damage.
The ronin problem is that in a role of a glass cannon damage dealer alchemist is strictly superior and ronin has pretty much zero grimoire contribution to the team.
The real way to use a ronin is to level it to 30 and then class change it into a dark hunter or survivalist if you're a madman.

>>716242538
actually all you really need is a protector for the post game elemental nukes and a troubadour (or hexer lmao) for the faggot blue dragon's buff bullshit. Medic obviously helps a lot too. In the end your damage dealing classes aren't all that different from each other, though at least one landy or alchemist for aoe is pretty handy.

>>716238707
hee hoo motherfucker

>>716241923
Yeah unfortunately EO2 has all the same classes with only three new ones that aren't particularly interesting either, EO3 though has really good classes and everyone gets to multiclass after the halfway point.

>>716238707
black frost if he breedable

For me, a man of culture, its the remake gladiator

>>716221807 (OP)
Left > Right

>>716244184
Same, but the new Buccaneer is pretty great too.

>>716241923
The series only started having interesting classes in 4 and the remakes really.
3 got close but half the classes in that game are a janky mess.

>>716245035
>>716244184
>Gladiator
>2 Buccaneers
>Arbalist
>Sovereign
Oh yeah, it's gaming time

>>716246312
gitwm

For me, it's the Shinomashira

>>716244184
For me, it's the new FEMALE hoplite

>>716221807 (OP)
I like my etriams black just like my metal

Yup, its dungeon exploration time

>>716236593
I unironically dropped my 3 replay because I retired my based grandma farmer and dropped it for this abysmal turd of a class Jesus christ it sucks so bad in full parties

>>716239112
>be me
>play first eo when it came out
>be told there no story
>be told you need to make your own story if you want story
>come up with head canon for my characters
>backgrounds
>wants
>reasons for teaming up
>reasons for exploring dungeon
>even reason why my landsknecht has one eye closed in his character art
>get further in game
>story starts actually developing
>npcs telling me to stop and not go further
>make it down to fifth strata
>see its name
>lose my fucking shit

I was told this game had no story so I got invested by making my own. When the story finally kicked off, I was already invested and the reveals made it one of the best experiences I've played. I absolutely love this series because of this moment.

>>716249791
I keep hearing this but they always have story doe?

>>716221807 (OP)
blonde weeb samurai girl are a surprisingly common archetype

>>716221807 (OP)
KANSHAKU, KANSHAKU, KAN-SHA-KU!

Bump

>>716249996
They do, but when the first one came out many game journos didn't give it a fair chance. I'd wager most didn't play past floor 2. There was one particular review that got memed on where the author was too stupid (or was so uninterested to even try the game) that he named his characters names like Fight and Heal, so he could "remember what they were supposed to in battle". It's no surprise that the "this game has no story" narrative was so widespread.

>>716249996
for the average JRPG player having more gameplay than cutscenes and text means that the game has no story

>>716251303
>that he named his characters names like Fight and Heal, so he could "remember what they were supposed to in battle"

Archer, Tank and Stick my beloved

>>716251303
but if I don't name my party after their class how will others easily identify what class everyone is from a single screenshot?
I do give them regular names and renamed everyone just for this screenshot

>>716251447
> Allen: Fighter/Tank.
> Alicia: Wizard/DMG Mage.
> Lloyd: Rogue/DPS.
> Alexa: Cleric/Heal/Support Bitch.
That's it.

Next Stage...

>>716251303
>that he named his characters names like Fight and Heal
I do that though

>>716251948
It's seriously going to come out 10 years after it was announced, isn't it?

>>716235428
still the best Buccaneer portrait, too back Buccs are bad and take no less than a million points to be able to do something. They are EO3s Ronin

>name characters after their classes and make them all females
>except the tank (me)

>>716251630
why did you feel the need to attach an image of one of the worst things to come out of these games?

>>716252729
Isekaijin-sama...

>>716252840
The harbinger? cause i agree, goon>harb

>>716235251
Chase and maybe RNG will bless you

>>716242538
What the fuck are you talking about? The two strongest classes in 1 by a country mile are Survivalist and Medic. Protectors are only relevant for two fights in the postgame because Bard and/or Medic can handle damage reduction for everything else. You dont need Land or Alch either.

>>716253058
no the dogshit superboss fuck atlus

>>716254716
Working as intended

>>716252840
because my point was that using names as markers instead of making real names can serve a point, making it extra clear how sad that team is

>>716233710
Best tank?

>>716256397
Best tank

>>716222474
Other farmer girl is superior. Especially the red version.

>>716258332
don't fall for her tricks, she's trying to reduce your quest rewards

>>716221807 (OP)
I just started the first game after buying the first 3 on steam. Its incredibly fun. I don't know the proper word for it, but I like "attrition" aspect of the game. Going into the floors and slowly running out of resources and pushing your luck to go an inch further. Gives a real rush. Especially since you have to plan for the trip back too.
Only real complaint I have is that the first 2 floors set up the expectations that many dead ends will have some kind of event, good or bad, at the end of them. But that's not really the case. I did recently discover secret passages through the walls. Love the mapping stuff.
>>716256773
Love this dude. Probably my second favorite portrait behind the alchemist one. I've got him with a crew of loli friends.
Pic rel is my team.

>>716221807 (OP)
I'm already grumpy and brooding, I'd rather pick the happy character to lift my spirits.

The dungeon events in V are so retarded. I remember the Fire Ant event in Stratum 5 specifically where no matter what you do it seems like you just get ambushed and eat shit

>>716248374
Is that fron anon's nude portrait mod? I thought that only did the classes.

Why are Dark Hunters like this?

>>716261406
Bro?
What about the advertisers??

>normal amrita is 2000g and strongest amrita is 20,000g
Why the fuck are they so insanely expensive? Am I supposed to never be able to afford them, is it some kind of "no fun allowed" thing, after they were so good in EO1?
This is making me reconsider my entire party composition as of beginning of 2nd stratum.

>>716252141
>It's seriously going to come out

>>716258558
you are literally satan

>>716261551
TP is supposed to limit your exploration time, you are not meant to spam amritas and demolish the dungeon floors in one go.

Whats the best way to make these games more profitable?

>>716261880
One of the dumbest things about this series. It's not hard leaving the dungeon to take a piss break and a hot coffee, it's hard exploring in one go, with all the risk that entails. Roguelikes understand this and keep you in as long as you're able.

>>716262061
h scenes on party wipe

>>716260867
It mods every single girl except the robots

>>716225716
3
4 if you're too casual for 3
1 if you're fucking insane

>>716221807 (OP)
I'm pretty sure I didn't use either of those portraits

>>716262170
What about H scenes on party victory?

>>716262404
h scenes on party.
let himukai make the game he really wants to make.

>>716262061
They could make a good anime adaptation that could get more eyes on the series.

After watching dungeon meshi I'm deeply craving a dungeon crawler set in the universe

>>716262061
No mapping options, just automap.
No difficulty options, normal(easy) is the only difficulty.
No character creation, just set parties.
Dumbed down class builds so you don't have to worry about ruining your build.
No ariadne threads, free teleports to town.
Level scaling is the most important part of combat, new EXP system overlevels you just by doing all content(or you can just grind for 10 minutes).
Double the amount of cutscenes, halve the amount of floors.
Add a season pass for each stratum, with grindy daily quests for the months between content.
You can unlock extra classes(characters) with a gacha system + microtransactions.
Vtuber collabs.

>>716262580
Ariadne threads already cost a nickel and are probably the most casualized aspect of the games

I use male prince and I'm not sorry

The only EO I've played through is 1.

>>716261551
If you're playing 2, use a War Magus + Hexer for infinite TP.
>restore TP with Transfer
>curse with Hexer's Corrupt skill
>use Cursecut when your War Magus stars running out of TP
>???
>profit

>>716263103
That's funny. I do have both of those in my party.

>>716258558
Bully the loli

I'm so fucking brain rotted. I wanted to start with the HD collection but the fact that it's all 2d art is filtering me.
I might actually just pick up untold instead.

>>716263394
I mean...it's good looking 2D art, and you get used to it fast. The series is known for its static, stylish portraits drawn by Himukai across all games. Do you just not like 2D art, or is it the lack of animations, or what?

>>716263562
Lack of animations. The art is good I just like watching things bobing up and down while I scroll menus.

>>716263653
Oh, well. I guess I can understand that. I started with 4 over a decade ago, but it felt pretty seamless going back to the old style with the HD collection.

>>716263394
Just keep playing and you'll get used to it.

>>716263394
Unless you grew up with it and have nostalgia for it there no reason not to play the untolds.

Even the story mode is overhated imo

>>716261795
there's nothing mean about holding on to an item that's meant for someone else. She should have put in a request for it if she wanted it.

>>716263103
That's really tedious to do though, and 2 is the game where amritas are easiest to buy because the boss conditionals sell for such insane amounts.

>>716263901
Story mode of 1 is dogshit.
2 is passable.

>>716262580
I love this little jew so much but she should never be allowed near any creative endeavour.

>>716263103
hexer is too skill point starved to invest in a meme set up like that. And this means you also have some way of stalling out fights so you're spending more resources on that too.

>>716263901
They're good on classic but no, story mode is rightly hated and has no place in the series.

>>716263353
long hat is long

>>716227203
good doujin

>>716221807 (OP)
I always picked the left.

>>716221807 (OP)
Color theory. The girl on the left uses the same colors, so she blurs into a homogenous mass. The girl on the right stands out against the grey, combined with the shine of the red armor plates being more pronounced.

You are all but asking why people look at things under a spotlight.

>>716244184
Unf

>>716261406
very nice
can you reply to my post with a picture, no one did >>716225593

>>716248374

>>716262580
would map every inch of her dungeon... if you know what i mean.

>>716268140
>>716268316
I'll tell you this, the art is really nice, would fuck those characters if you know what I mean

>>716268379
>>716268316
Oh shit I posted without reading your post, just looking at the pic. We must be both genius since we think alike.

>>716262061
1-2 frame attack animations for your party, I think not seeing your dudes is probably the biggest thing that turns people off as evidenced by how every single game seems to have universally adopted menu systems that show your characters at all times

>>716262580
>Add a season pass for each stratum, with grindy daily quests for the months between content.
I am honestly surprised a JRPG hasn't attempted something like this yet.

>>716269782
Drawing or modeling all the characters, then animating them would take 10 times the budget they have to work with.

>>716221807 (OP)
Left was in my party as soon as I unlocked shogun and she killed abyssal god

>pick easy mode
>boss die in one turn
>pick normal mode
>i die in one turn
what's with this game weird difficulty levels

>>716270120
Hard is the default difficulty

Sex with bnuuy girls
Total therian impregnation

>>716270120
easy is cinematic game journalist mode
normal is "easy" for modern audiences
hard is the default difficulty that they had to rename because casuals kept getting filtered and it hurt the sales

>>716270120
The hardest mode is the default difficulty that the games are designed around, it's not weird. It's one of the key elements of making turn based combat fun; enemies need to be threatening in order to force the player to actually use strategy.

>>716248184
What genre of woman is this?

>>716270326
>wanting your kids to have less INT than a dog

>>716256397
a best
a BEST

>>716269986
I want to fuck dancer in her tiny pussy and cum inside multiple times until she gets pregnant, if you know what I mean

>>716248374
mod name?

>>716264237
>Little
She's a granny dude

>>716270969
>lolibaba
Even better

>>716263389
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>716262061
I've been told that adding parrying and quick time events is peak turn based combat.

>>716235251
No but Panic will. God bless wildlings.

Gee EO4

>>716270120
These games being hard is the best part. When I played Etrian Odyssey for the first time it felt great having all the enemies feel intimidating especially the overworld monsters

>>716270531
Trad wife

Fullbody tights... erotic...

>>716235121
>There's like three or four dungeon crawlers ever made
Bait right? Please tell me that you aren't this stupid.

I feel like doing a meme run of EO1 (Only one I own on steam atm)
Give me your best shot on team comps.

>>716281527
hexer
ronin
alchemist
dark hunter
protector
don't do this unless you want to suffer

>>716281780
I can't do hexen/ronin anyway since they're not available from the start.

>>716224000
That's a dog anon.
also nice trips

>>716270120
>getting blasted on normal (easy) difficulty
play expert like a man, and as the developers originally intended

>>716235615
Five Beasts is not only good, it's optimal.
Unfortunately it's boring

>>716236593
Probably too late so you won't read this but fuck it I love Yggs and I always have my copypasta ready.
If you want to I can give you a breakdown on Yggs.

>General Information
Yggs are a very good class that's often misunderstood because they work different from the other classes. Unlike other classes that use subclassing to complement their main class, Yggs' main class complements their subclass.
They have the highest HP, highest STR and 2nd highest VIT; while their TEC and AGI is subpar, their LUC is downright terrible and their TP is stuck at 60.

>Strengths and Toolkit
Their main gimmick is binding themselves to passively regenerate TP through Sleep Mode, which heals up to 10TP per bind every turn. This is probably the least impressive part about Yggs and it's mostly just so you don't have to worry about carrying Amritas with you.
The strength of the Ygg lies on their fantastic passives and stats.
Yggs are naturally immune to binds that don't come from their own skills, add to that Virus Scanner 10 (50% ailment resistance) and Yggs are extremely hard to lock down.
Infravision compensates for their subpar AGI by giving them 40% increase to evasion and hit rate at night, making them bulky classes that can also dodge a lot of attacks.
Overheat is an insane passive damage buff and the HP cost isn't nearly as taxing as it seems as long as you have a Hoplite or anyone on healing duty.
Their bots are also surprisingly useful if you're not using the 6th slot in your party. They chase your party's elemental attacks with TEC elemental damage. The bots have the Ygg's stats, so their TEC isn't very high, so to compensate they gave them very high damage numbers (170% TEC damage at level 10) so if you give your Ygg TEC equipment and books the damage can start getting higher.
Lastly, HP Cannon. It's not very good HOWEVER, it's very funny to deal true damage to AG while he is in his defense form without provoking a counter attack.

>>716236593
>>716283663
>Subclassing Options

>Ygg/Glad
Highest STR in the game and Infravision makes Blade Rave consistent as all hell and Nine Smashes into an actually reliable option. Also, Overheat > Berserker Vow > Charge > Blade Rave is very funny.

>Ygg/Hop
Arguably the best Hop in the game. Highest HP, 2nd highest VIT, immunity to binds, 50% resistance to all ailments with Virus Scanner and 40% increase to evasion with Infravision makes them an incredibly durable machine.

>Ygg/Monk
One of the best Fist Monks in the game. Having the highest STR means the world with how Fist damage calculation works. But, most importantly, Monks have Ascetic Deeds, at level 10 heals you for 90HP everytime you use a skill, which means that Overheat 9 is a free 40% dmaage buff and Overheat 10 goes from costing 127HP to a measly 37HP for a 50% damage buff.

>Ygg/Bucc
2nd best Swashbuckling user. Look, you can't beat a Shogun/Bucc in terms of Swashbuckling, but you're going Deep City route so this is your next best option if you want a swashbuckler with you.
Data Mining increases crit chance by 10% and makes crits deal 190% damage. So Data Mining, Overheat, Lady Luck and Crit accesories makes them actually hit pretty hard with Swashbuckling.
Also, if you want to summon bots, this is your best way to proc chases while also dealing good damage (Of course, assuming you don't have Shogun unlocked).
One piece of warning though, Overheat activates every time Swashbuckling procs, so leave it at level 6 if you don't have someone to babysit them.

>>716236593
>>716283817
>Meh and Bad Subclassing Options

>Ygg/Princess
I had an Y/P in my party. It works, but I only had her because I wanted a full Yggdroid party. If you want a full Ygg party it definitely works, there's nothing wrong with it, you have a bulky Princess that's very hard to lock down. But if you're not doing that, just get a regular Princess.

>Ygg/Zod
I also had this in my party. This one doesn't work at all. I literally only had her because I wanted someone to summon bots, and for the endgame she was my HP Cannon user.

>Ygg/Arb
Yggs have the highest STR and Overheat. However, Front Mortar is not very sustainable (16 TP with 2 binds) and Double Action is pretty much not viable.
It can still work, but without Charge, Front Mortar really loses a lot of it's appeal.
You could however have a Snipe/Sharpshooter Y/A in a disable focused party and it could work as well.

>Ygg/Ninja, Ygg/Wildling
Yggs do not have the TEC or LUC to try to inflict ailments or binds.

>Ygg/Farmer
lmao

>Ygg/Shogun
Unless you're modding your game or playing a second playthrough you're not having this one in your party, so I put it in the Meh category.
Magatoki works well since you're already going to be exploring mostly at night thanks to Infravision and Daifuhensha makes Yggs stronger and bulkier, and thanks to Infravision they will be able to work as a pseudo dodge tank as well.
They're also a pretty bulky Warrior Might user.
The biggest problem is that Magatoki and Daifuhensha both use different body parts, so TP recovery becomes an issue.
Also, fun fact. Bloody Lance increases the damage of HP Cannon. You're never going to use that unless you're going for that one strategy against the true final boss, but it's funny that the combination of Armoroad's and Deep City's forces can create one of the strongest countermeasures against the Deep Ones.

>>716270531
Adorable

>>716274847
I never thought they were too hard, maybe punishing. My teams never had synergy, I just picked the cutest portraits, which are usually also the most erotic.

>>716222070
yeah, turn off your monitor

I did pick left though...