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Anonymous No.716222154 [Report] >>716222180 >>716223661 >>716226374 >>716233962 >>716234608 >>716237370 >>716238976 >>716243119
Logic Bombs
Did matthew really say this is supposed to be a 20 hours game?

It took me 9 hours to do 28 levels.
Anonymous No.716222180 [Report]
>>716222154 (OP)
IQ issue
Anonymous No.716222750 [Report] >>716223471 >>716227089 >>716228009
Am I missing something? I've been stuck here for 20 minutes
Anonymous No.716223471 [Report] >>716223915
>>716222750
which puzzle is this? (row / column)
Anonymous No.716223661 [Report] >>716230383
>>716222154 (OP)
Someone post the download link.
Anonymous No.716223915 [Report]
>>716223471
Row 7 Column 14
I figured it out but it felt like trial and error
Anonymous No.716224647 [Report]
lol
Anonymous No.716224712 [Report]
>still no rule34 of the cat demons
I guess it's not a rule after all
Anonymous No.716226186 [Report]
bump
Anonymous No.716226374 [Report]
>>716222154 (OP)
He also said he barely playtested it.
Anonymous No.716227089 [Report] >>716228091 >>716230153 >>716232981
>>716222750
I don't understand; this isn't Picross? You can just put the black squares anywhere? What are the purple and blue things for? Why are some of the squares numbered?
Anonymous No.716228009 [Report]
>>716222750
Is being stuck for 20 minutes a long time? Shit that's like every puzzle for me.
Anonymous No.716228091 [Report]
>>716227089
It's not quite the same as Picross, the rules are different.
Anonymous No.716230126 [Report] >>716231925 >>716232264 >>716233048 >>716233426 >>716237438
UH OH

The price has gone down. What does this mean? This is bad right?
Anonymous No.716230153 [Report] >>716232734
>>716227089
It's more akin to Last Call BBS' Dungeons & Diagrams, the Zachtronics game.
Different rules though.
Anonymous No.716230383 [Report] >>716243226
>>716223661
https://litter.catbox.moe/ce72fbkwwzvnjwsk.zip
Anonymous No.716231925 [Report]
>>716230126
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO MY LOGICBOMBSCOIN
Anonymous No.716232264 [Report]
>>716230126
I think that's just regional pricing, it's still the same 5 USD it was yesterday for me
Anonymous No.716232734 [Report] >>716233426
>>716230153
It's smelling like some bullshit ARG too?
Anonymous No.716232981 [Report]
>>716227089
you really just saw something that looked like picross but different and your brain immediately shattered huh
Anonymous No.716233048 [Report] >>716244670
>>716230126
matts not concerned with money
Anonymous No.716233426 [Report] >>716233557 >>716242776 >>716243724
>>716230126
I wonder how Matt feels about sales/discounts.
>>716232734
On the contrary, pic related
Anonymous No.716233557 [Report] >>716233653
>>716233426
what does the gray box mean though... there must be a secret involved
Anonymous No.716233653 [Report]
>>716233557
Anon, I... censored it because it's an early puzzle I had already solved and didn't want to spoil the answer.
Anonymous No.716233962 [Report] >>716277305
>>716222154 (OP)
>logic bombs
are they truth nuke's cousins?
Anonymous No.716234608 [Report] >>716235136 >>716237095 >>716237629
>>716222154 (OP)
When it was announced for the first time it was supposedly 8 hours
>Yesterday, I did my first full playthrough, which took about 7 hours. If you were to speedrun inputting the solutions it would only take an hour but I reckon a first time player will be in for around 8 hours playtime.
https://www.patreon.com/posts/brief-update-106722754
Granted this was when the game only had 128 puzzles but it's still well off
Anonymous No.716234725 [Report] >>716235038 >>716236279 >>716236913 >>716237515 >>716243724
i hate b****s so much it's unreal
Anonymous No.716234856 [Report] >>716235038 >>716237151
where the music
Anonymous No.716235038 [Report]
>>716234725
Surprised there aren't more of these pointless meme reviews.
>>716234856
Here you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8exbHh79Ts
Anonymous No.716235136 [Report] >>716236313
>>716234608
Does Matt think everyone is some kind of super genius?
Anonymous No.716236279 [Report] >>716236913
>>716234725
I think it's a reference to one of his videos. Can't remember which one
Anonymous No.716236313 [Report]
>>716235136
it's a puzzle game for people who like puzzle games so probably
Anonymous No.716236913 [Report]
>>716234725
>>716236279
It's referencing the lack of niggers said in bioshock infinite
Anonymous No.716237095 [Report]
>>716234608
I must be retarded because this is all I’ve done in 6.5h
Anonymous No.716237151 [Report]
>>716234856
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cw5MuDFb_ew&list=RDCw5MuDFb_ew&start_radio=1
Anonymous No.716237370 [Report]
>>716222154 (OP)
i've unlocked the sixth row but at this point i'll just cheat if i'm stuck. way too many puzzles seem to boil down to a couple 50/50 decisions and i don't have the patience to screenshot where i'm at, try a path, and then reset to that point if i made the wrong choice
Anonymous No.716237438 [Report]
>>716230126
it's the same price in first world countries
Anonymous No.716237515 [Report]
>>716234725
holy kek
Anonymous No.716237629 [Report]
>>716234608
He knows the ins and outs of the ruleset more than anyone. He should have realized it would be faster for him.
Anonymous No.716238976 [Report]
>>716222154 (OP)
I was stuck on one for an hour and then I remembered the fucking zone rule. Then I beat the next few very quickly.
Anonymous No.716239893 [Report] >>716241237 >>716241738
just fuck my shit up senpai
Anonymous No.716240448 [Report]
>boards increase to 15x15
PAIN
Anonymous No.716240898 [Report] >>716241190 >>716241237 >>716241602
I like the early part of the puzzles where you can deduce which bombs have to be connected to which cats but after that I just get lost and I feel like I just draw shapes with walls randomly to separate the blue objective markers. I feel like I'm missing some sort of mathematical process to determine which variation of walls is correct without just trial-and-erroring the process.
Anonymous No.716241190 [Report] >>716241413 >>716241530 >>716241602
>>716240898
Forgot my pic.
Anonymous No.716241237 [Report] >>716241738
>>716240898
same, especially the puzzles where that entirely center around zoning the the gems often feel like they require some sort of "leap of faith" guess. even when that works out, it's not very satisfying.

later on there are a bunch of puzzles like >>716239893 where there's just a bunch of bombs and monsters and it doesn't feel like there's a straightforward way to deduce even the first move
Anonymous No.716241413 [Report]
>>716241190
one of the few "tricks" the game has taught me applies to row 4 here. there is only one wall on that row, and you know it has to be between the 2 bomb and the monster, so you can X out the squares on the right of that row between the two monsters. i don't think that really cracks the puzzle open on this one, but it's really helpful on the puzzles where there is an entire line of monsters
Anonymous No.716241530 [Report]
>>716241190
You have all the info you need for row 2
Anonymous No.716241602 [Report]
>>716240898
>>716241190
If a blue thing is connected to any path with a bomb or enemy, that entire path also has to be separated from other blue things.
Anonymous No.716241738 [Report] >>716242561
>>716239893
>>716241237
There are no leaps of faith required, that's the whole point of the game. Look at the 9th column.
Anonymous No.716241763 [Report]
I have absolutely no interest in this game but I'm happy for matthew that it seems to be doing pretty well
Anonymous No.716242561 [Report] >>716242943
>>716241738
i get that's the stated purpose but i'm too much of a brainlet to think enough steps ahead, maybe if there was better note taking functionality in game.

i see the 9th column and know that at least one of the bombs in that column will need to go vertical but idk which
Anonymous No.716242637 [Report]
>get halfway through puzzle, think it's going well
>do the solution check
>3+
>delete my solution, never open the puzzle again
anyone else?
Anonymous No.716242776 [Report] >>716244932
>>716233426
>I wonder how Matt feels about sales/discounts.
He talked about that in his last stream.
Anonymous No.716242943 [Report] >>716243417
>>716242561
Figure out where the 1 wall cannot go, so those spots should be Xs.
Anonymous No.716243119 [Report] >>716245273
>>716222154 (OP)
LOOK GUIZE! I MADE A VIDEO GAME!

It'll be 5 bucks, please.
Anonymous No.716243192 [Report] >>716243414
>eceleb cock sucker general
Sad
Pathetic
Embarrassing
Anonymous No.716243226 [Report]
>>716230383
404 Not found
Anonymous No.716243414 [Report]
>>716243192
Matthew is /v/ culture, based and redpilled. Suck it, newfag.
Anonymous No.716243417 [Report] >>716243704
>>716242943
seems like it could go in any of those spots
Anonymous No.716243704 [Report] >>716244112
>>716243417
Test if the wall goes in one of the squares, how does it impact the rest of the column?
Anonymous No.716243724 [Report] >>716244404 >>716244774 >>716244932
>>716233426
i actually wonder how he feels that you can buy the game, nab the rom and refund it. I guess he doesn't care but it feels weird for someone like him to leave himself open for such things.
>>716234725
Ah c'mon it's funny.
Anonymous No.716244112 [Report]
>>716243704
Ah I see, it has to go between the monsters in that column or it fucks everything up, thanks m8
Anonymous No.716244404 [Report] >>716244676
>>716243724
i really doubt he cares about people refunding, i think he's self aware enough to know that 99% of people buying this game are his fans who care more about supporting him than about the game. the couple misers who don't want to pay $5 aren't worth worrying about
Anonymous No.716244525 [Report] >>716244747
what did he mean by this?
Anonymous No.716244556 [Report]
Humiliation ritual.
Anonymous No.716244670 [Report]
>>716233048
our lord and saviour matthewmatosis
blessed be his name
Anonymous No.716244676 [Report]
>>716244404
To not be misunderstood, i don't mean refunding itself, i mean refunding and still keeping the game. That's pretty much legal piracy. But yeah, i do hope this actually incentivizes him to work on bettlejuice/mushido/whatever
Anonymous No.716244747 [Report] >>716267815
>>716244525
>not the logical solution
Matthew says trans rights!
Anonymous No.716244774 [Report]
>>716243724
I seriously doubt he cares about that at all
Anonymous No.716244932 [Report] >>716260525
>>716242776
What did he say?
>>716243724
You can do that with any steam game thoughbeit, even if they have steamworks you can easily bypass it with Goldberg or SteamEmu or any other number of emulators. But it's easier to just pirate a game instead of buying it and refunding it.
Anonymous No.716245273 [Report] >>716248506
>>716243119
I mean, I'd probably pay $5 for Dragonsweeper with a couple more variants and playable on my phone.
Anonymous No.716245503 [Report] >>716259337
>just realized why there's so much extra space around the puzzles
Anonymous No.716246804 [Report]
logic bump
Anonymous No.716246850 [Report] >>716246923
torrent?
Anonymous No.716246923 [Report] >>716247042
>>716246850
anons already posted the rom on this very thread
Anonymous No.716247042 [Report] >>716247153
>>716246923
404
Anonymous No.716247153 [Report]
>>716247042
check the archive, there's at least one working link
Anonymous No.716248506 [Report] >>716254206
>>716245273
I’d pay for Lab Sweeper.
Anonymous No.716250278 [Report]
bump
Anonymous No.716251358 [Report] >>716251461 >>716253008 >>716253248
Thoughts? I'm stumped. I can just start guessing but I don't really want to.
Anonymous No.716251461 [Report]
>>716251358
Make sure its one contiguous zone.
Anonymous No.716252359 [Report] >>716253478 >>716254270 >>716255363
Day 3 progress check? I'm having a good time
Anonymous No.716253008 [Report] >>716253353
>>716251358
You’ve solved column 6.
Anonymous No.716253248 [Report] >>716253353
>>716251358
column 4 is solvable, there's an obvious X spot open that will let you wall the rest
Anonymous No.716253353 [Report]
>>716253248
>>716253008
Oh yeah. Man after I look at the puzzles for too long my smooth brain just turns to mush.
Anonymous No.716253478 [Report] >>716254270 >>716257550
>>716252359
got to the point where i had like six open puzzles and got a bit liberal with cheating just so i could see the rest. at this point if i get wall'd after 10 minutes i'll just cheat, care more about seeing the end than finishing "clean"
Anonymous No.716254206 [Report]
>>716248506
Harder to find than you'd think.
Too old for me.
Anonymous No.716254270 [Report] >>716255628 >>716257550
>>716252359
>>716253478
how many hours?
Anonymous No.716254519 [Report] >>716255391 >>716256631 >>716260856
You could play Logic Bombs with a pencil and the puzzle printed on a paper so it's not a true video game. The interactive elements aren't needed for the game to work.
Anonymous No.716255363 [Report] >>716255993
>>716252359
I think there's a pretty noticeable gap in difficulty around row 8. The usual tricks don't seem to work anymore. Maybe there's something I'm not getting.

Also I got pretty curious about the later levels so I checked. I wish there was a way to reset the level icon though. It's kinda triggering me.
Anonymous No.716255391 [Report]
>>716254519
Mr smartypants over here
Anonymous No.716255628 [Report]
>>716254270
20
t. first anon
Anonymous No.716255993 [Report]
>>716255363
>Also I got pretty curious about the later levels so I checked. I wish there was a way to reset the level icon though. It's kinda triggering me.
I mentioned that on the Steam forums but didn't get a response from him. It doesn't sound like that'll change.
Anonymous No.716256631 [Report]
>>716254519
My biggest complaint is that pencil and paper are actually more useful since you can use additional symbols.
Anonymous No.716257550 [Report]
>>716254270
18 hours for >>716253478
Anonymous No.716258746 [Report]
40 hours
Anonymous No.716259337 [Report] >>716259981
>>716245503
uhhhhh why?
Anonymous No.716259981 [Report]
>>716259337
the dial goes up to 15
Anonymous No.716260238 [Report]
yeah, not gonna do that
Anonymous No.716260467 [Report] >>716260756 >>716260763
Am I not understanding the separation rule correctly, do the bombs block off cats from objectives? I first tried to solve this by making a space where the red lines are. Matthew said in the vid that the puzzles only have one solution so I suppose I must not be getting it.
Anonymous No.716260525 [Report] >>716263009
>>716244932
>What did he say?
https://www.youtube.com/live/b1kGmYpxbsw?si=rIX4T-TK0lCyacis&t=7282
Anonymous No.716260756 [Report] >>716261242
>>716260467
The reason that doesn't work is because it creates zones in the corners.
Anonymous No.716260763 [Report] >>716261242
>>716260467
No, bombs don’t block off zones. If you use either of the blue lines, you’re blocking off a zone diagonally.
Anonymous No.716260856 [Report] >>716260984
>>716254519
You could also shoot your opponent in real life instead of playing any multiplayer FPS games.
Anonymous No.716260984 [Report] >>716261053
>>716260856
You wouldn't be playing by the same rules though.
Anonymous No.716261053 [Report] >>716261276
>>716260984
>shoot enemy
sounds like the same rules to me.
Anonymous No.716261242 [Report]
>>716260756
>>716260763
OH you can't make empty zones, I see.
Anonymous No.716261276 [Report] >>716261867
>>716261053
>shoot enemy
Not a rule.
Anonymous No.716261841 [Report]
I'm stuck in the tutorial.
Anonymous No.716261867 [Report]
>>716261276
It is for winners.
Anonymous No.716262361 [Report] >>716262540 >>716273398 >>716274931
6 hours in and only 29 completed
Anonymous No.716262540 [Report] >>716262686
>>716262361
>didn't figure out how to abuse the hint system
Anonymous No.716262686 [Report]
>>716262540
I did that a few times but it does feel like cheating lmao.
Anonymous No.716263009 [Report]
>>716260525
Unfathomably based.
Games should be sold for what they're worth, not overpriced for the rich and then discounted for the poors. I understand the game dropping in price after like 5 or 10 years when competition/alternatives appear, but I don't support discounts/sales.
Anonymous No.716264513 [Report] >>716264649
I don't understand how you're supposed to know the first move without guessing. Matt must have a 1000 IQ and see multiple moves in advance. I've beaten the level without cheating but it wasn't pure logic like intended.
Anonymous No.716264649 [Report] >>716264767
>>716264513
Only sigma males will get it, but the puzzle after this spoils the technique: MATH
Anonymous No.716264767 [Report] >>716265007 >>716265061
>>716264649
I'm officially filtered, I give up here. I'm not doing math for fun.
Anonymous No.716265007 [Report] >>716265075
>>716264767
sum of columns = sum of rows
so you can figure out that the ? > 0
and that it forces a wall in the column which forces the bombs to so sideways
same technique for the previous one
Just wait until you have to start solving simultaneous equations
Anonymous No.716265061 [Report]
>>716264767
It's not as bad as it looks. You only need to calculate 39-39
Anonymous No.716265075 [Report]
>>716265007
Wait I fucked that up, I was thinking of the first puzzle. but you get the idea.
Anonymous No.716266526 [Report] >>716266637 >>716266660 >>716266734
what's wrong with this one
Anonymous No.716266637 [Report]
>>716266526
only 1 diamond per zone is allowed (no more, no less)
Anonymous No.716266660 [Report]
>>716266526
blue balls are touching
Anonymous No.716266734 [Report]
>>716266526
Blues aren’t separated and you’ve got an empty zone in the bottom left.
Anonymous No.716267815 [Report] >>716268318 >>716268386 >>716268447
>>716244747
He actually doesn't
I remember one stream where a troon kept spamming it and begging him to say "trans rights'
All he had to say was "Must be a full moon out tonight"
Anonymous No.716268318 [Report]
>>716267815
kek
Anonymous No.716268386 [Report]
>>716267815
I think he'd have a similar reaction no matter what they were trying to get him to say but it's based regardless.
Anonymous No.716268447 [Report] >>716269525 >>716270139 >>716271362
>>716267815
>I remember one stream where a troon kept spamming it and begging him to say "trans rights'
>All he had to say was "Must be a full moon out tonight"
I don't get it
Anonymous No.716269525 [Report]
>>716268447
Some old saying about crazy people coming out on full moons, I believe it's also the origin of werewolf myths.
Anonymous No.716270139 [Report]
>>716268447
werewolves were the original trans
Anonymous No.716271362 [Report]
>>716268447
nothing really trans specific or even directed at that person, basically just saying "chat is being nutty today", which is the appropriate response to some random person asking to repeat a political slogan
Anonymous No.716273316 [Report]
logic bump
Anonymous No.716273398 [Report]
>>716262361
i went to count and I have the exact same amount complete and the same playtime as you
Anonymous No.716274186 [Report]
Anybody actually played this on a game boy? Or is that just a novelty thing and this game is better played on a pc because it’s too difficult or something?
Anonymous No.716274931 [Report]
>>716262361
Same, 31 at 6 hours in (without using the hint system). I'm enjoying it but I don't see myself getting much further, I'm too much of a brainlet for these kinds of games.
Anonymous No.716277305 [Report]
>>716233962
kek gem