Thread 716227680

What's F.E.A.R.s aesthetic called? Urban decay? Any games not made by monolith feature the same atmosphere?

>>716227680 (OP)
>What's F.E.A.R.s aesthetic called?
Spooky
Any games not made by monolith feature the same atmosphere?
Underhell.
>B-But that’s a mod for half life tw-
Sssshhhhhh let OP use his braincells for once.

>>716227680 (OP)
mid 00s ludo. it's never coming back.

>>716227680 (OP)
Half the game is office buildings and the other half is cement mills and small warehouses, what do you mean exactly? Do you want action games in Urban environments? Industrial environments? Slums?

>>716227680 (OP)
this post convinced me. I'm getting F.E.A.R.. I've been really missing that early 2000s aesthetic lately and this post called me. Anything to know before I jump in?

>>716228498
>it's never coming back.
And it's such a shame. The hardware limitation not allowing real time global illumination really allowed developers to think about a scene when making levels and baking in lighting.
>>716228705
Limit framerate or get a patched .exe, the game glitches out above 60fps

>>716227680 (OP)
if you're talking about the spooky office building then workplace horror?

>>716228705
Just look it up on pc gaming wiki, you should do this for all old games

>>716228705
make sure to get the directinput fix off PCGW

>>716227680 (OP)
unbeatable atmosphere. modern fps slop is a joke if you compare it to F.E.A.R.

>>716229145
It's no Halo CE, but Fear doesn't exactly have modern FPS competition. Nobody makes games like this anymore.

It's Urban Decay, yeah
Kino aesthetic

Board ate my image

>>716229295
It's better than CE just for having better gameplay on a fraction of the budget.

it doesn't play anything like FEAR, but INFRA is a game about photographing decaying urban structures

>>716228705
Play Extraction Point right after finishing the main game and ignore everything else.

>>716229459
I don't agree. Enemies are more fun and varied in Halo.

>>716229704
Fuck out of here, Perseus Mandate is much better than Extraction Point.

>>716229704
I would say, play Extraction Point if you want more horror. Continue with Perseus Mandate if you love shooting Replicas.

>>716229748
>More varied
True
>More fun
Untrue

>>716229804
This is bait

>>716229847
Extraction Point isn't even that scary outside the final stretch.
Extraction Point is top tier for the level design and new weapons.

>>716229847
>Perseus Mandate
>More Replica
You mean the game that replaces the Replica and ATC Security for those shitty Agency goons with barely 5 lines of dialog and bad AI due to shit poorly lit level design?
Come on now

>>716229459
Nah fear has no variety lol. Theres like 3 enemy types and tons of weapon redundancy and the AI is more sound byte driven than action driven.

>>716229459
>having better gameplay
kek

>>716227680 (OP)
If you want an urban decay game, go play Robocop Rogue City and the standalone DLC that just came out. It's 80s decay kino through and through.

>>716230181
>FEAR has no variety
But it has a Minigun

>>716231318
Yes

>>716229145
God, pitch black stencil shadows were so fucking kino

does Trepang2 qualify as such?

underhellbros... i dont feel so good...

>>716231762
kinda I guess but the zoomer backrooms shit made me cringe

>>716231762
Not really, Trepang2 is more about evil corporate labs.
Closest thing to the FEAR aesthetic is the office complex in the first level.

>>716227680 (OP)
>What's F.E.A.R.s aesthetic called?
Industrialism.
>Any games not made by monolith feature the same atmosphere?
INFRA, Obenseuer.

>>716231808
Fuck you, I still want Part 2
Using Source 1

>>716227680 (OP)
grey warehousecore

It's nuts how much better Doom 3 aged. FEAR's environments look borderline randomly generated

>>716231637
cool gameplay bro

>>716227680 (OP)
I love FEAR but I really really hate these bizarrely performative ways people LARP with these games and pretend they're some kind of tacticool operator peeking around corners and being super careful about every pixel. Everybody knows you don't play singleplayer FPS games like that, it just looks very artificial when you do it.

>>716227680 (OP)
Vladik Brutal is like a FEAR/Half Life 2 hybrid when it comes to aesthetics. Amazing game. And HL2 itself is obviously peak urban decay.

>>716232278
Go play FEAR on its hardest difficulty. You absolutely need to clear corners and be tactical about things or you're getting rinsed.

>>716232278
There are fps games that force you to play like that, like swat 4.
FEAR is not a tactical shooter though, you're right, i am not sure why people treat it as such. There are tactical elements, more than in an average action game, but it doesn't reach the level of a proper operator game or a milsim

>>716232278
FEAR on the hardest difficulty is like that

>>716228705
https://github.com/Wemino/EchoPatch

>>716232609
>>716232490
Every non-movement shooter is like that on higher difficulty. HL1 on hard will have you vortex instantly zap your ass for 80 damage if you aren't helpful, and you have to shoot only when you are sure you can hit to not waste ammo.

>>716232278
Why would you waste time caring, nay, getting angry about the way people you've never met enjoy their single player game? Are you actually autistic?

>>716227680 (OP)
Urban tactical and Cyberpunk anime smothered by industrial and corporate architecture, polished like a company pamphlet and deliberately banal like an OSHA safety training video. Designed to dull your senses so the horror can better sneak up on you.

>>716232198
FEAR is simpler because it prioritizes visibility and the fact that, as the action starts, the whole room is going to be destroyed and there will be particles flying everywhere

>>716232490
>>716232609
It absolutely is not. Even if you force yourself to not use reflex extreme is simply the only difficulty that won't leave you swimming in health kits.

Is Selaco any good?
I need an fps game where you play as a girl to feed my AGP tranny mental illness.

>>716232795
HL1 I remember being pretty generous on the hardest difficulty excluding those mounted turrets the marines use, or the silenced pistols from the special ops fuckers in that one part.

>>716233162
With the amount of damage the enemies can do in Extreme, a half second of carelessness is enough to lose an entire health kit's worth of health. You're not rushing through the game on Extreme taking no damage unless you've put 200 hours into it or are some kind of speedrunner.

>>716232795
Half Life 1 on Hard is easy as fuck outside a few more hectic sections which go full RNG, I don't know what you're talking about.
The biggest issue is bulletsponge enemies because Valve can't make combat worth a shit.

>>716233527
I didn't enjoy my time with it. The combat doesn't really give you any strategic options to avoid taking lots of damage (no lean button, no slow motion, limited movement in general) so you just feel like a sitting duck most of the time, and the level design is trying to be a linear shooter campaign and a complex doom map and an immersive sim at the same time. There's a million cabinets to check and walls to hump at the same time the game's throwing scripted sequences at you and those secrets are needed for weapon upgrades to hopefully make the combat less shit and it's just not fun. If you're a masochistic faggot you might get a kick out of it actually.

>>716233527
it's the closest to replicate F.E.A.R. so far imo (Trepang2 sucks, it's what people who didn't play F.E.A.R. think it was like) but if you do play Selaco make sure to install the lean and slow-mo mods off the workshop.

>>716232784
Cool, has anyone ported the console version exclusive content?
I remember there being some extra weapons and I think some bonus missions.

>>716234883
Xbox 360 had an exclusive dual-wielded SMG, PS3 had a drum mag shotgun. both also had their own bonus mission and an Instant Action mode that isn't on PC.
and no, none of it has been ported sadly, though the weapons were pretty poorly animated anyway.

>>716235193
The weapons and levels were complete ass, and that's besides all the control and performance issues on console.
It's like bragging about Symphony if the Night on the Saturn because it has extrs content.

>>716235193
I'm glad this console niggery is at its end.

>>716229567
based INFRA chad

>>716236135
it was a real dark time, shame so many games never even came to PC because publishers were convinced PC gamers were entirely just pirating everything

>>716228705
Don't sleep on 2 or 3. Both were fun. Especially 3 for coop

>>716236441
They are still convinced of that even after Witcher 3 proved otherwise. But they are groveling to the PC market now because the greedy fucks want MORE.

>>716236551
They should indeed not be slept on, they should always be remembered for how fucking awful they are to stop retards recommending them, especially 3.

>>716228705
expansions are worth playing
you may need to troubleshot shit for the first 1 and the expansions(at least with the steam versions)

>>716236778
3 is a better sequel to F.E.A.R. than 2 was.
not that that's saying much. 3 is mediocre, but I still have fun replaying it every once in a while.
2 is miserable to replay.

>>716232198
doom 3 is literal corridors 90% of the time
its so fucking bad

>>716227680 (OP)
>>716228676
there is literally zero decay in f.e.a.r. games and there is no term for that. Most of the first game is in office and the shite DLC take place in warehouses, or metro.

>>716236910
>corridor shooter is corridors
wow you can play far cry 3 if you want so bad

>>716236778
nta I wouldn't shit on the sequels for their map design, story or whatever. Their biggest sin is that they somehow fucked up the gameplay and guns and made it all feel weaker and without an ooph. How the fuck do you mess up something like that? It boggles the cranium.

>>716236910
and fear isn't?

>>716227680 (OP)
>make game whose main selling point is the advanced AI that uses flanking tactics and the cool bullettime power
>make 90% of the game extremely linear corridors with zero flanking opportunities so that both the player and the AI have nothing to do except cornerpeek
>make the bullettime power useless for anything except cornerpeeking
What the fuck were they thinking

>>716233527
Its so much fun that I felt bad for pirating it

>>716237364
if you really think reflex is for fucking corner peeking then you play like a coward and the game is wasted on you

>>716237364
They were playtesting it and the players found the AI too clever or thought it was cheating.

>>716232198
I didn't care about D3 environments as a wee lad in 2004, I didn't care about them later when playing open coop, and I didn't care about them much later when doing a solo replay. The only memorable sections are hell (not as cool as people pretend) and that one quiet part where a top echelon lab is completely slathered in gore.

>>716227680 (OP)
Would also include
The Warriors
GTA 4
G-String
True Crime NYC
Maybe Fallout 3
Maybe Dying Light

>>716237703
Yeah yeah I've seen the webms of the cool Matrix-style combos
That's what the game should've been, man.
Just one little problem, though: The guy recording that combo quicksaved right before starting the recording, and quickloaded right after. Because he went from full health and armor to 15 health in the process, and you need to play through about 1/4 of the game to regain all of that.
That's what happens when you do anything in this game except cornerpeek. The game isn't just cornerpeeking, it's enforced cornerpeeking.

>>716237976
why are you still using that retarded bootleg manhunt cosplay pic

>>716227680 (OP)
i dont know why but this game makes me miss the early 2000's office environment

>>716238050
I didn't make the image

>>716232278
>pretend they're some kind of tacticool operator peeking around corners
Leaning is the basic mechanic, and enemies hit hard and fast. Of course I'm going to use cover, and once in cover, of course I'm going to lean. Where is the pretending?

>>716238043
> and you need to play through about 1/4 of the game to regain all of that.
lol you never played the game

>>716228705
Play it on Extreme.

>>716238197
easy difficulty self-report

>>716227680 (OP)
>What's F.E.A.R.s aesthetic called?
generic 00s first person shooter
your welcome

>>716238043
Brother, you are drowning with medkits if you use reflex at all. Feel free to lower the difficulty, if the pressure is uncomfortable.

>>716238043
This is a joke right? There's health kits every other room. They're made to be used not to sit at 10 the whole game. Even then you'd have to either be retarded to run out or blind to not see them in the first place.

>>716229114
Is that the bug where the game starts to lag horribly after a minute or two?

>>716238561
>you are drowning with medkits if you use reflex at all
It's the exact opposite. You take no damage if you cornerpeek like the game wants you to. Medkits are your allowance that you need to save up and spend in order to use reflex for anything actually interesting or cool.

>>716236135
It's going to be replaced with mobile niggery and you know it.

>>716228498
Grow up boomer

Recently picked up Trepan2 on the summer sale, and I gotta say, this scratches all of the same itches that F.E.A.R. does for me. Its so god damn fun. If you haven't played it yourself yet, I really do recommend it.
It's even got me thinking about buying all of the guns I can legally source in it. I had only picked up my first USP 45 a month before starting the game. Now I'm looking at getting an SBR'd Vector in 45, an HK SL8, and a Springfield Hellion just to larp with.

>>716238302
>self report
underage "self report"

>>716238852
Then lower the difficulty to get yourself the appropriate amount of allowance.

>>716228058
Damn, I totally forgot about Underhell
I should play it this October

>>716239004
>scratches the same FEAR itch
I bought Trepang2 with the same mindset, but all playing it did was make me want to replay FEAR. Trepang2 is ok, but it feels like the Great Value version of FEAR. Even before the stupid zombie/monster/ghost stuff shows up.

>>716236778
3 was better than 2 at least.
2 was such an awful middle of the road shitfest game filled with ironic humour.

3 at least didn't pretend to be anything but a FEAR flavored COD.

>what is the anesthetic called?
Grungehouse

>>716227680 (OP)
Urban.
The first Condemned had it as well.

>>716239561
He said not made by Monolith.

>>716239758
Oh.
I'm blind.

>>716239825
It's a good suggestion and I'm willing to bet OP hasn't played it.

Even if the melee system is a bit... strange, still a very enjoyable game.

>>716237976
negro, google what decay means

>>716239369
The best part of Trepang2 is it's horde mode. That sounds like an insult but it's not because the horde mode is really really fun.

>>716239369
>but it feels like the Great Value version of FEAR
Seconding this. The environments are so bland they make FEAR's dead offices seem exciting.

fear is overrated as FUCK but it does deserve some recognition, and its a shame the sequels never built on its strengths

even if the sequels are basically just map packs instead of really good expansions that is still more fear game.

>>716239004
the demo level was amazing but the rest of the game failed to deliever on that

>>716240109
Depends on the level, the offices, the Castle, the Cargo Ship wreck and the Horizon building are great.

The rest are pretty shit, the Mothman Hospital level would be great if it wasn't a railroadded mess and you could actually fight in the hospital and not just the infected zone in the backrooms of the complex.

>>716227680 (OP)
I've played F.E.A.R. this year for the first time and I absolutely loved it (Extraction Point was great too, Perseus Mandate was meh). This reminded me what gaming is all about.
Next, i've played F.E.A.R 2, which just made me angry and sad, it's everything wrong with modern FPS, or gaming in general. The contrast between 1 and 2 is so jaring. How do you go from this to this?
>clearly consolized
>can't save manually, only checkpoints
>too zoomed in FOV, ugly visor overlay getting in the way too
>textures are somehow lower quality that in the first one, with ugly rainbow artifacting near light sources
>no audio logs, only written logs
>no leaning
>made for retards, slow-mo lights up targets, grenades leave glowing trails etc.
>slow-mo no longer has the iconic sharpen filter
>story: it's Alma again...
>boring weapons
>boring enemies, AI seems much dumber
>too reliant on jump scares, the atmosphere is not there
>forced camera angles during jump scares and cutscenes, F.E.A.R. 1 almost never took control away from you
>happens at the same time as F.E.A.R. 1, yet looks more futuristic, nothing like F.E.A.R. 1
>quick time events
>hit markers, we cod now
>le quirky chungus companions!!
>and a fucking turret section...

>>716237508
>>716234820
>>716234678
thanks bros!

>>716240468
Glad to know you have friend!
Give 3 a try if you want something different, get a buddy to play coop with too.

It's not FEAR though, but it's way better than 2, which is also not FEAR.

>>716240468
It's all downhill after Extraction point. F.E.A.R. 2 and 3 are fucking garbage. Go play Trepang if you want a crazy shooter with horror elements.

>>716240109
>FEAR's dead offices
I loved them, personally. An empty office building at night is way spookier to me than the industrial settings, Or the shitty last part of the game with the old, dilapidated town.

And I've also been in corpo offices after dark, so I know how eerie they are.

>>716240468
Going from FEAR to FEAR 2 is like going from OG Deus Ex to Deus Ex Invisible War. Disappointing doesn't even begin to describe the downgrade.

>>716239912
i did, hence the "not made by monolith", otherwise the whole thread wouldve been made up of
>play condemned

>>716227680 (OP)
my tiny brain can't comprehend this is a 20 year old game

>>716241590
I really liked the crumbled down town section. Especially at the beginning of Extraction point. Shooting between the buildings at soldiers taking cover in a building across the street was fun as hell

>>716242457
It gave me flashbacks to Bioshock and how shitty everything after meeting Andrew Ryan was with the flop houses and shitty parts of town.

>>716242695
Fuck me Bioshock 1 is so good, still haven't played Bioshock 2 though.

>>716240109
Wtf are you smoking? The cultist castle level alone is better than anything in FEAR. The rest aren't anything worse than FEAR either.

The slowed down baby crying is so fucking funny. How did nobody on the team realize how silly it sounds when you hear it so often?

>>716242821
Bioshock 2 is better in every way but it does have a flop houses level. Bio 1 is ruined for me by being a worse in every way System Shock 2.

>>716243595
The hierarchy of the Shock games has always been:

>SS2
>SS1
>
>
>
>Bioshock (until meeting Ryan)
>BS2
>The different BS2 DLCs
>
>
>BS Infinite

I personally liked BS1 way more than 2, but the shooting in all of the games is fucking awful. And I'm still butthurt that we never got an actual horror game like what was promised in the awesome BS1 art book.

>>716244061
System Shock 2 shooting is alright, the guns lack in terms of animations but sound punchy, powerful and deals lots of damage.
Plus screen shake

>>716227680 (OP)
It's called Half-Life 2 aesthetic but at night.

>>716244749
SS2's animations in general are a weak point, but I can excuse a lot since it came out in the same time period as DE1, whose shooting animations are just as stiff.

>sound punchy and powerful
And personally, I'd rather have this than good animations, if I had to pick.

>>716244061
>>716244749
I like BS2 more not just because the gameplay is better but because I'm an Objectivist and the collectivist is the bad guy which is extremely rare in media

>>716244061
>we never got an actual horror game like what was promised in the awesome BS1
https://youtu.be/w7VyzZWexVY

I remember being so happy as a kid seeing the demo "Hunting the big daddy" I thought it'd be a slow tankny heavy feeling horror game kinda like HUNT showdown. Then the game came out and they sped it up and just made it action with a horror theme. Was wack.

>>716227680 (OP)
ugly

>>716245465
>He doesn't know
Both the Obectivist and the Collectivist are the villains in SS2.

>>716246353
I still remember all the crowing about BS1's 'ecological AI,' when all it amounted to was 'certain enemy types are hostile to each other, and you can watch them retard fight sometimes.'

>>716246353
Same, it being CGI pretending to be gameplay also pissed me off.
I remember playing it on a store demo and my friends PS3 and being bored out of my mind.

Tried again on my PC a few years later and dropped it soon after.
There's nothing mechanically special about it, it was just marketing and having RPG systems the average 7th Gen retard had never seen.

>>716228705
If there's ever a fork in the road, one path will lead you to the next objective, the other will lead you to a health/bullettime upgrade. Almost 90% of the time.

>>716232198
doom 3 gameplay aged like milk. while fear is still comparable to modern homage like trepang 2

>>716246881
Health sure, but the Reflex upgrades are fucking hidden and you have to do off the beaten path stuff to find the majority of them.

>>716247264
Replayed Doom 3 and its expansion recently. Still feels really responsive/fun with great environments.

>>716233162
amount of health kits means shit if the damage coming in from two grunts is enough to instagib you

just admit you like to play on medium to enjoy the slow mo gun-fu to its fullest instead of coming across like a retard doubling down

>>716247264
Doom 3 is a lot faster and has actual movement. FEAR is a slow cover shooter.

>>716247405
the pee shooter pistol and the infamous shotgun alone invalidate it. On top of the lack luster smg and slow firing gatling. In general all the weapons lack the "umph" and punch factor in their sound design

Slow movement to compensate the tiny environments just enforces its age

I will admit thought that playing through it in VR gave a much better impression. But that is because the motion control version it comes with is inherently clumsy and slow paced. So doom 3 syncs right into having just about the right pace

>>716247587
>Doom 3 faster than FEAR
>FEAR is a slow cover shooter
By god, I've discovered the stupidest man on /v/.

>>716247939
fear is slow as fuck

>>716248157
>play slow
>game is slow
>play fast
>game is fast
all you did was outing yourself as being slow

>>716227680 (OP)
Great game

>>716248157
>shows a clip of a guy just walking around and not even sprinting
>during one of the game's early light combat pseudo tutorials
>this is proof the game is slow
You're a retard, unquestioningly.

>>716247774
>pee shooter pistol
Never used beyond like the first 2 levels.
>infamous shotgun
Can 1 or 2 shot most enemies in the game if you know how to use it.

>>716248157
every game is slow if you play it like a fucking retard

>>716248381
i wanna see what playing "fast" even looks like. There is no movement or speed in this game. Everything is corner peaking with slo mo on and clicking the head of the one enemy type in the whole game.

>>716247939
He's not wrong. D3 has sprint, FEAR movement is pretty slow with hands, pistols, smg and shotty, and goes even slower with power weapons. "cover shooter" generally has a narrower meaning, but in this context it clear that D3 has more active dodging and fights in the open.
Doesn't mean that D3 isn't mediocre, or that Fear isn't exceptional.

>>716238302
>easy difficulty
maybe you are just a retard who doesnt know to play

>>716227680 (OP)
Mogged by Doom 3.

>>716248553
you shitposters always surprise me with your retarded shit

>>716248405
There is no sprint in Fear you fucking poser

>>716248381
>>play slow
>>game is slow
That's what it means to be a slow game you stupid fuck. Play Doom Eternal slow. See how that goes. If you dont sprint in D3 than you just wont dodge anything.

>>716248701
>killing enemies more than 2 inches away from you
Get this AI generated garbage out of my face.

>>716248701
>>716248396
>>716248157
>>716247587
Shit bait

>>716248842
you can play pokemon fast if you know what you're doing, and that is a slow game.

>>716247939
not him but you are dumb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUYCLwr63C4

>>716248931
that lighting is pure sex desu. i hate modern vidya.

>>716248985
and yet there's not one webm of fear being played fast

>>716248931
Only mods like you're showcasing can make Doom 3 actually playable.
Great tech demo, terrible fucking game

I was always a little confused about Replica soldiers being afraid of the MC. Like, they're mind-controlled by a psychic, but they still give each other orders, function as a unit and panic. How much control is exerted? When you shoot your brother in the head, they all shut down - so how much influence did he exert?

>>716232198
I miss the FEAR, DOOM3, Riddick, Quake4 look of games. I would have been perfectly happy if graphically we stayed there forever.

>>716248573
He's completely wrong. FEAR has fucking jump kicks and power slides you can do from sprints. Go watch a speedrun for it.

>>716249192
You said it yourself, Paxton influences them, they see him as their leader, they follow his telepathic orders.
He doesn't control them directly or what they feel.

They're still clones of humans, mindfucked human clones, but human nonetheless.

>>716247416
You're the one who needs to admit you have the reflexes of a turtle if you can't wipe any encounter with slowmo shotgun on extreme

alternatively you thought you'd be a badass and refused to use slowmo at all and got your shit pushed in and now you're bitter and butthurt about it and insist if you can't ein with style nobody can

>>716248730
press H next time you wojak spamming nigger

>>716249192
It's not clarified, but the soldiers are somewhere between mindless dolls and Westworld-style fake humans. The whole 'why would they even react with stuff like 'He's taking out the whole squad!' is never really discussed, but you could presume it's something like 'they have to have some kind of basic installed personality to even function.' But then the whole 'they just turn off like robots' thing confuses it further.

I don't know why you are having so much trouble enjoying FEAR for what it is.
>>716249395
Again, there is no fucking sprint in FEAR. I've played the game countless times, love it to bits. It's ok to appreciate slow games. Bicycle kick barely has any forward momentum, and slide has a pretty long recovery to boot. Only 3 could qualify as a speedy game, and the melee is much more viable and fluid there.
>>716249478
It barely moves any faster than smg and pistol in that webm, if at all. Not at all reasonable to suggest during combat encounter. Don't pretend you've meant this in the first place, it's unsightly.

Is it me, or nowadays AI in enemy behaviour is way worse?
They're fucking dumb, but also have pinpoint accuracy.
One would think that with most modern GPUs having integrated AI cores games would use some for controlling AI NPC behaviour.
FEAR AI is still unmatched

>>716250262
Halo ai is better than fear

>>716250512
excuse me while I punch a pair of hunters to death like it's dark souls pvp

>>716249192
I don't think it's specified, rule of cool and convenience probably. If I had to headcanon it, the shutdown is a security precaution, so when the psychic control link is severed, you don't have an army of purpose-built killers doing whatever they please. Otherwise, they are running standard human wetware.
I think 2 had a replica training/indoctrination station, some Clockwork Orange/Matrix type stuff, but maybe I'm tripping.

>>716240468
>>716236894
>>716239379
2 is still a really good action horror shooter even with the "consolizations." I'll never get the hate boner you guys have for it, especially to the point of thinking that 3 is better. Which is just objectively wrong. It's legit like saying Dead Space 3 is better than 2.

>>716250262
Fear "AI" was a bunch of very strictly scripted environments, variables and actors. Sorry, but that is how it really is. I mean pre-prepared chains of maneuvers like vaulting over desks + voicelines if the player moves right, fragging the room + voicelines if the player goes left. The enemies won't leave their assigned areas because it's not covered in their strict instructions. But that doesn't mean it wasn't very good at giving an illusion of competent but not quite enough competent thinking enemies.

>>716227680 (OP)
Fear 1’s story was surprisingly compelling

>>716250710
I wanna see that webm

>>716251249
here you go senpai
https://youtu.be/7HNUlzGj8dA?si=aUgj1zyFfYKSMeyW

>>716251034
The shotgun and AI alone are a fucking sacrilege.
>Dead Space
Except Dead Space 2 was actually good despite being more action focused and linear than 1.
FEAR 2 is FEAR 1 but way worse, the art design, the weapons, tha pacing, the story, the atmosphere, the gameplay, everything is worse than 1.

3 didn't give a shit and just gave me a fun coop shooter.

>>716251230
T'was a time when "oh you are brothers with the main villan" plot twist was played completely straight, with little foreshadowing and no regrets.

>>716251230
This.
Some plot twists were foreshadowed since the first parts but some were nice ones.

>>716236551
>Especially 3
lol

>>716251703
Monolith never made a good 2nd game

>>716251640
If it's worth making a youtube video over that tells me it's not easy. And you said a pair of hunters. Not one.

>>716251907
No One Lives Forever 2

>>716252038
The only one

>>716227680 (OP)
I wouldn't call FEAR "urban decay", just urban. Half-Life 2 is urban decay.

>>716251943
He kills two in the video numbnuts.

Anyone who's ran LASO knows this trick, it's really nothing special.

>>716227680 (OP)
I played the first and second recently, I really liked them. The atmosphere of the first one was insanely good, the second one not so much. The second one didn't hit as hard as the first, and had lot of cringy lines for no reason. I still don't understand how the games are supposed to be scary, though, when you're getting chased by a little girl in the first and by a hot ghost woman that wants to fuck you in the second.

The third game looks like shit, should I even play it?

>>716251703
>AI alone are a fucking sacrilege
Not worse than 1's, which is extremely overrated to begin with.
>Except Dead Space 2 was actually good
And so is fear 2. In fact it just does the inverse of what that did, cranking up the horror elements of an action shooter, yet gets way more hate than it.
>the weapons,
The pistol, shotguns and notPenetrator are lamer I agree, but I like the Fear 2 smg and assault rifle more. It's sniper is also very satisfying.
>the atmosphere
Better than 1's in some areas like the hospital and school.

>>716252402
He fights one at a time which doesn't count.

>>716251034
>2 is still a really good action horror shooter
I shudder to think what's a mediocre action horror shooter, got any examples?

F2 guns are inexcusably unpleasant to use, whereas every F3 gun has oomph to spare.
F2 fat suit armor and neon highlights in slo-mo are an eyesore.
F3 actually has a couple of solid moody sequences with general populace going nuts, the warehouse with a TV altar, and the suburban neighborhood turned into a cultish hive. F2 has the school, annoying fucking crawlers, and completely embarrassing ghost QTEs. Those shadow dudes in the streets are pretty cool, but there are like 3 of them.
In F2 your health bar and medkit stack are pathetic, don't improve over the game, forcing a timid playstyle. F3 is all health regen, and it works fine. All your tools (guns, melee, slo-mo, explosives) are available, potent, and handy, and the game actively rewards skilled and varied play.

>>716252569
According to who, retard? It's cheesing their dumb AI one way or another. Closer quarters like the pair of cunts in Oni Sword Base just means dodging slow plasma shots on top of it.

>>716252553
>Not worse than 1's
>FEAR FUCKING 2
>THE GAME WHERE ENEMIES COME AT YOU IN A STRAIGHT LINE FROM A SINGLE DOOR IN A CORRIDOR MULTIPLE TIMES
Stopped reading right there, kill yourself

>>716252709
Using your movement isn't evidence of dumb ai

>>716252635
It's a fucking 360 kiddie whose first FEAR was 2.
That much is obvious.

>>716252868
baiting the enemy into using the same slow attack over and over again is very much evidence of dumb AI

>>716252292
The second to last main area in FEAR is literally a decaying urban setting.

>>716252968
And if you got by it even just once you die. Strong but slow is game design 101.

>30% of the game is proto cinematic gameplay cutscene slop where they make you walk down a spooky hallway
>another 30% is just walking through bland repeating environments begging for the next combat encounter
>only the remaining 30% of the game involves actual combat which is extremely overrated and not nearly as good as people pretend it is
dogshit meme game

>>716252873
Fear 1 and both expansions were on 360 too, retard.

It's the we want to do environments on the cheap aesthetic.

>>716227680 (OP)
Its called reused assets galore

>>716227680 (OP)
Sex with Keira Stokes

>>716253084
They have multiple attacks and a powerful ranged weapon yet standing in a particular spot will prevent them
from doing anything else, which is as literal an exploit of their behavior as you can get. They always send them in pairs to prevent you from being able to do this, and the fact that this too can be circumvented is also a failure of said behavior.

You're not getting any more replies by pretending to be retarded.

>>716253448
And conveniently they aren't being fought in pairs in the video

>>716253198
>30% of the game is proto cinematic gameplay cutscene slop where they make you walk down a spooky hallway
You clearly never played the game. Just replayed it 2 weeks ago and those parts are not even 5% of the entire game. And in some of those parts you actually need to fight/shoot stuff.

>>716249272
Agreed. The lighting had to carry more of the atmospheric load; these days everything looks crisp and clean but the soft volumetric lighting renders everything in a dull haze that looks awful.

>>716252635
>forcing a timid playstyle
Playing like a coward because of that is your own choice. You still get plenty of armor even on Hard so nothing is really stopping you from being agressive. You just can't face tank literally everything and have to be a bit more careful because you can't horde medpacks, which is a good thing. And a better approach than truly CODifying things by adding regenerating health.
>>716252803
>kill yourself
So you've given up and have no actual counterargument.

>>716250512
>>716250710
Fellas, there is no need to go full tribal warfare mode. Both games' AI are a head above most shooters in terms of presentation, reactivity, and breadth of options. One easily exploited boss-type enemy doesn't invalidate all the fine work that went into the bestiary.

>>716227680 (OP)
2000s experimental shooter

>>716252485
they arent. the horror elements are more to set mood to the other wordly atmosphere. compounded by the OST that is drawing inspiration from nippon atmospheric horror stories/flicks

>>716243241
retard

>>716253198
>I've never played the game, but I've seen some webms from it and I want to post in the thread but not actually contribute
Go starch some shirts, you mong.

>>716228058
>>716239263
Underhell is GOATed
Chapter 3 never ever

>>716253932
Remember the secret area in FEAR 1 that had the radio blasting out anime opening? When they bothered to put in an easter egg like that all the mech stuff made perfect sense.

>>716240186
Ur overrated

>>716253932
The atmosphere of the first game made it, somehow, feel both cozy and unsettling. I don't know how to describe it. The OST was really good too.

>>716253447
>dies because her belly is exposed

>>716254342
The song it's playing is the main theme from SHOGO, a literal weeb mecha game they made back in the era when western studios like them and Bungie were making overt anime-inspired games. The song is called 'Negai,' I think. And the stuff on that whiteboard in the easter egg area are all in jokes from the devs.

>>716253281
So?
Nobody played those ports, they were barely marketed

>>716254621
O-oh....

>>716253619
>nothing is really stopping you from being agressive
enemies do. It's a hitscan game with a weak arsenal, slow movement, no lean, no defensive or disruptive mechanics when reflex and nades aren't enough to tip the scales. You can get as psyched as you want, it's not gonna turn Soldier of Fortune 2 or Vietcong into Severed Steel.
>can't face tank literally everything
never asked for that
>have to be a bit more careful
It's a dreadfully simplistic game, you can go out and melt, or you can sit tight and survive, there is no depth for anything else.

>>716254992
ERA PENAL

>>716252485
3 is just a pretty short, ok fps game with the F.E.A.R title slapped on top of it. Only go for it if you really want to shoot at dudes

>>716254992
you just reminded me another thing that sucks about F.E.A.R 2 compared to 1, jump kicks are totally broken and never fucking work in this game.

>>716227680 (OP)
Why was he so mean :(

>He's too fast!
FEAR AI is so powerful, it convinced some anons ITT that it's a fast game.

>>716256236
It's tied to the slo-mo use.

>>716229704
Perseus Mandate is alright

>>716256125
i think they need to be low health or a sneak attack

>>716254005
>spoiler
Please, don't remind me.
I'm still hoping tho...

>>716227680 (OP)
>what's F.E.A.R.s aesthetic called?
source engine
just beat it yesterday bros
everything after the parking garage was irredeemable dogshit

>>716256304
i liked the speedrun/arena survival bonus missions in it, you never get such a long action sequences in the base game or expansion stories.

>>716256236
compared to doom 3? absolutely its fast paced high octane action

Seeing people on this board defending garbage like Halo and using the word "aged", especially in regards to games that came out in the early-mid 2000's is really making me wonder why they don't get banned for being underage sacks of shit.

>>716228705
Jumpkicking isn't mentioned in the tutorial IIRC, but by God is it satisfying when you actually land the jank backkick on a Heavy's head during slowmo.

Man, I wish that FEAR 2 would have expanded the whole FEAR universe with other missions they'd had. I mean, this division was created to investigate properly paranormal threats, but instead the whole franchise surrounded Alma. The first expansion of the first game was more of a proper sequel than what happened with 3, and FEAR 2 was more of a spinoff, that if it had been kept as a spinoff like they wanted to do, it would have been better

>>716256716
Moderration gave up many years ago, and any "culture" or "community" that /v/ now has is just placebo.

>>716256839
>>716256716
cope

>tnt: evilution
>all of half life 1
>first perfect dark level
>fear
>portal office sections
>stanley parable
>infra
Why are office and workplace levels so soulful? Is it the dissonance from being alone in a place designed for lots people?

>>716254408
no u

>>716256716
halo is almost 25 years old, xbox kids are unfortunately adults now, at least physically

>>716229295
halo ce looses to fear but that's just my personal opinion

>>716256984
No, it's the fact that the most boring place imaginable filled with people that drives you nuts and into a murderous rampage is being used as a backdrop for your violent high octane rampage in a videogame.

Office work is the devil

>>716248553
I play like this kek

>>716248553
How bored are faggots like you to make moronic posts like this?

>>716249192
They are functionally braindead and don't do anything besides basic life processes like breathing without a psychic commander. With one, they are active and functionally extremely brainwashed, highly trained and unquestioningly loyal soldiers. They still possess emotions like a normal person so seeing some guy headshot 3 of your squadmates and break the neck of a 4th with a roundhouse kick in under a second is enough to terrify them.

>>716250180
"Speedy" doesn't mean movement speed alone but how fast the gameplay plays out, and applying min-max mentality to the ways you fight is peak antifun retard behavior.

>>716251034
2 is immediately unforgiveable just because it has absurdly poor mouse settings and even the absolute lowest setting is way too fucking fast. The only good part of that game is ghost girl sex.

M O G G S your game and aesthetic preferences

>>716227680 (OP)
What I enjoyed most about this game is the endless hordes of demons and clones(in the first games), and parts of the chapters where there isn't even anyone talking to me, it's just me and the demons and my shotgun or nailgun

I love chapter 5, don't get the hate

>>716258297
Alma ghost sex completely kills the character and is tone deaf.
Just more dumb shit to try to pander to dudebros.

The only good parts about that shit game were the mech sections, the part where you explore the nuked segments of the city and the spooky school section.
Also the sniper, but that fucking thing only stands out because every other gun is shit.

>>716258557
All ludokino

>>716251034
2 is awful in everything 1 excelled at
no ai
no art-style
no atmosphere
no identity

it's mass marketing slop 2009 edition

>>716256565
Yeah, it gets way too much hate

>>716258557
fuck
makes me want to replay all of these
but I know it'd be a pain in the ass to get them or if they even worked on windows 10

>>716258557
getting nostalgia of slapping homeless people with pipes and tazing them..

>>716258983
prey works perfectly fine if you follow the directions given on the abandonware comment section and edit resolution in the config file

I played it for the first time a week or so ago and the intro one shoted me into the hyperplane, best intro of all time for me, easily

>>716258752
>kills the character and is tone deaf
She was trapped inside a scifi nightmare sphere for most of her life since early childhood and is basically a feral animal in terms of social development so her having no concept of appropriate behavior and experiencing horniness for the first time causing her to lunge at the dick of the first psychic receptive guy in grabbing distance makes sense, plus this was long before the wider internet concept of fucking Sadako as she is trying to climb out of your tv was around.

>>716227680 (OP)
the first outlast game is very similar to fear, obviously completely different gameplay

>>716258297
>"Speedy" doesn't mean movement speed alone but how fast the gameplay plays out
bro, you popped up 2 hours late, if you've got an overarching point to make don't phrase it like you've been part of the conversation the whole time.
What the hell is "sprint" they bring up if not movements speed? You know how committal and stiff special melee is in FEAR 1, how are they an argument for higher APM in Fear, as compared to D3?
Sure, dodging caco shots doesn't involve many quick micro adjustments, fair enough. That's not where the discussion was.

>>716258557
ADD THIS FUCKING GEM RIGHT NOW

HE'S TOO FAST

>>716259302
No

>>716258557
But these are my favourite game and aesthetic preferences

>>716259301
>bro, you popped up 2 hours late
Shut the fuck up nigger, I'm not even reading past this point because of this, the internet doesn't exist in a bubble around you and other people don't exist to entertain your dogshit moronic retard baboon brained statements at your beck and call.

>>716259197
To put it bluntly it swapped the primal roles of man and woman between Bucket and Alma. The stronger breeds the weaker.

>>716259197
She's fucking dead, she shouldn't even be able to feel lust, she's a vengeful Revenant sustaining herself on pure rage alone.
AND SHE WAS SEXUALLY ABUSED COUNTLESS TIMES WHY THE FUCK WOULD SHE WANT TO FUCK ANYTHING?
>psychic receptive guy
What the fuck does that even mean?
FEAR 2 is a retarded cartoon down to the moustache twirling ATC leader.

>>716259435
MID 2000'S WAS GOD'S KINGDOM

'05-'06 especially

>>716248157
>"fear is slow as fuck"
>Shows gameplay peaking around corners slowly, stopping to shoot instead of moving fast without stopping.

This anon showed how you should move if you want "fast" >>716240109

Don't be a fucking idiot, faggot.

>>716259435
>Dark Messiah
PURE FUCKING LUDO

>>716259446
All I'm asking is to be aware of the context when you jump into ongoing conversation. I'm not even disagreeing with your general point. No need to be so spicy.

>>716259721
Shut the fuck up nigger.

>>716240109
>ermmm but uh how can it be fast when it no have sprint button???
swear to god this place has dropped a few dozen IQ points in the past decade

Contrarian thread

>>716259603
>FEAR 2 is a retarded cartoon down to the moustache twirling ATC leader.
>implying 1 isn't also cartoonish with shit like Mapes having "funny fat guy" music play in every scene he's in
Not saying the stories are totally goofy and shit, but neither game is completely gritty or serious either. They both have their cheesy aspects.

>>716259929
made up astroturfed nonsense with slop and a few good games thrown in

2/10 bait

>>716227680 (OP)
SWAT 4 and to a lesser extent, Postal 2

>>716259929
What's wrong with Far Cry 2, Clear Sky, and MGS4?

>>716259993
Mapes having tuba notes when he turns up is such a quaint, goofy anachronism. Saturday morning cartoon shit. But the character is also made to be detestable (like Nedry in Jurassic Park). Except unlike Nedry, Mapes ends up being pretty ballsy at the end and gets killed for it.

>>716259929
you forgot Bayonetta 2, Lost Planet 3 and every Dead Rising after 1.

>>716259787
L + no fucking way + grenade! + where did he go + FUCK + out of ammo + no response from Echo 0 + SHIT + needs reinforcements

>>716258557
They really should have ported the first The Darkness to PC

>>716260109
>FarCry2
Checkpoint respawn, linear corridor map, extreme levels of backtracking, awful narrative with voice actors that read their lines like speedy Gonzalez
Also no depth
>Clear Sky
It's SoC but worse in every way with an awful boss fight at the end
>MGS4
I wouldn't know, never watched that movie

>>716259993
It was a better time. Like the black guy and Elite hugging each other at the end of Halo CE. Humans still understood video games were video games.

>>716260410
Blame Microsoft and Take2
Microsoft killed PC sales with Windows Vista and GFWL, pulled out, started demonizing PC gaming with journo money.
AAA publishers saw how much bigger the console space was getting, and bet all their money in there.

Take2 was one of the worst ones in that aspect and every piracy claim made them seethe with rage, and that's why you didn't get a Red Dead Redemption PC port until the 2020s

Microsoft was one of the biggest anti PC gaming detractors purely because those sales might affect their sales on the 360, they threw money around like candy for journos to push that consensus.

They did the same exact thing with Japan vidya

>>716260492
>Also no depth
It's the best of the bunch at loadout building. Every niche a weapon can fill is sorely desirable, and when a weapon fills several, it's at a great tradeoff. You want a handy workhorse with loads of ammo, an explosive, a sniper, a silent gun, an incendiary, but you only have so many weapons, and it makes expanding the arsenal hugely rewarding.

>>716259178
>abandonware comment section
spoonfeed me because I have no clue what that is

>>716261324
https://search.extto.com/prey-2006-v1-4-resolution-fix-dodi-repack-8315390/
wouldn't this work?

>>716259993
Mapes was comedy relief and everybody hated it.
FEAR 2 had SNAKE FIST, AEORTA, GHOST SEX AND EPIC TURRET SECTION.

Ironic jokes and poorly written dogshit

>>716248553
live footage of a chimp with a gun let loose in an armacham building

Is it just me or does anyone else no longer find Halo campaigns fun after playing FPS games before and during Halo's era. Halo feels slow after playing them. Even the gunplay feels slow.

>>716261223
>No inventory system
>No survival mechanics outside muh Malaria
>Get sniper an explosive weapon and an SMG and win
Also 0 enemy types outside jeeps and snipers

I remember playing it on a demo booth, loving the first 2 hours.
Buying it for PC, and then realizing those 2 hours would be all of the game.

It's an awful unfinished mess,

>>716261643
Halo CE is fine, Halo 2 is shit
Rest are mediocre

>>716261643
Fine as a kid, trivial as an adult.

>>716227680 (OP)
I miss Fear, it was really fun but WB just had to fuck everything up
Any other FPS games with bullet time? Played Max Payne already, liked it but didn't scrath the same itch, same with Cyberpunk

>>716262485
Timeshift, it's a bit whack, but the closest thing.
Stranglehold
El Matador - short jank MP clone
Painkiller, you can trigger slo-mo a few times per level using the tarot card system.
Super Hot
Killing Floor 1/2 - chance to trigger and extend slo-mo on headshot.

>>716262485
Hardboiled

>>716262485
-Trepang2
-SMOD

>>716261186
>They did the same exact thing with Japan vidya
And they still do, hell they even still push the "piracy hurts sales" bullshit when we have proof it doesn't and even evidence that it does the opposite

>>716261186
Why every time I hear about Microsoft, they're fucking something up? They try to destroy both PC and console gaming and both needed to be saved by Valve and Nintendo. Fuck that horrible company, I'm glad they're losing now.

>>716264689
>why is MS fucking everything up?
Greed and jeetification combined with woke/dei cancer. The competency crisis his them like a hammer.

>>716232198
Doom 3 is boring as fuck, I've tried like 3 separate times to finish it, decades apart, and one of them was in VR and I still quit and uninstalled after a few hours in.

You won't believe me, but I was a FEAR multiplayer professional before the MP was split off from the paid DVD/campaign.

That shit was the highlight of my last year of high school. Then everything went downhill after that.

I still remember listening to AFI and other emo bands at the time when I played FEAR MP. Peak of fun before gay web 2.0 and Obama era repercussions.

>>716265859
Bullshit. No one got paid for competing in Fear.

>>716227680 (OP)
bump

>>716259929
Crysis 2 isn't better than Crysis 1 but it's still a great shooter.

>>716269923
>Crysis 2 isn't better than Crysis 1
yes i love how a franchise when from unique to cod shit no worth playing

>>716262485
Severed Steel

>>716248157
you're always in a fear thread anytime they're up, saying the exact same thing with the exact same clip. you're a fucking loser, kys

>>716261428
>>716261324

I downloaded the very top version (1.6gb)
https://www.myabandonware.com/game/prey-dd1#download

then I followed this (picrel) this is crucial because otherwise the cursor won't appear and you won't be able to start the game in the menu (if you are a complete moron it's done when you right click on the exe file, in this case CoDSP.exe, and select properties and there navigate to compatibility and do what the picture says)

then, wherever you installed the game, in main directory, there will be a folder named "base" open the preyconfig.cfg with a notepad and edit your resolution there manually the lines to edit will be something like "custom_height" and "custom_width" or whatever, so for height write whatever your monitor's resolution is, same for width and save the file

that is it, takes maybe 30 seconds

>>716269923
it's the other way around Crysis 2 is an ok shooter ,but C1 is where it's at

>>716256213
He was jelly. And also instinctively knew something was wrong about you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxY_5g7eTI8
Unreleased version
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fear/images/f/fd/Unu_misc_jankowski_on_point_man.ogg/revision/latest?cb=20180602111131

b-b-b-b-b-bamp

>>716227680 (OP)
>FLASHLIGHT

>>716279386
I'd label it as "urban grit" far more fitting than urban decay