They can't keep getting away with this

>>716238917 (OP)
>we didnt have back up facilitates in 1997
lying sack of shit

>>716238917 (OP)
They ported it to the PSP and Mobile, so something's off. They likely lost the original PS1 source code, but the mobile game is RIGHT THERE. That is the version that sould be ported over.

What a bunch of fags. It's like a list of "things no one wants"

What it should be:
>mobile port
>some QoL changes
>option to switch between original sprites, Mobile, or original with various filtering options
>add some content
>re-add PSP melee and rendevous again

What we got:
>ugly port of the ps1 version
>not anything from PSP onwards

Is it really that bad?
Just dump a cartridge and you have the game, surely you can decompile your own shit?
>t. non dev

Abysmal shitfilter retards on reddit unironically think are redrawn sprites. Imagine being that fucking dumb.

>OP

Should've gone begging to Nintendo again

>>716239370
Kys yourself fftranny nigger

>>716239387
Nintendo wouldn't have had a copy of the source code. The original version of Tictacs wasn't published on N64.

>>716239510
IT WAS ON FUCKING GBA YOU DRIBBLING RETARD

>>716239421
That's the price of a new fucking game. I would gladly pay 70 for a full 3D FFT. Imagine full 3D models, you can zoom the camera in or out, there's a full 3D grid. Might look a bit like Valkyrie Profile.

This? this is a PS1 game with ugly filters.

>>716239563
You a dumb nigga fo sho

>>716239563
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance is a wholly separate game from Final Fantasy Tactics.
Don't be rude.

It's so they can make Agrias a she boss who is stronger than cid and ovelia is going to be the scheming one while delita becomes a weak fuck boy.

>>716239686
And your a cum slurping SEnigger Faggot Trantasy defender suck my cock
>>716239696
You too nigger

>>716239253
Nah even then the new content of the psp and mobile were coded really badly because they didn't have the source code , that's why modders can't really add the new rendezvous weapons and items into the shops or on characters without going through find-item loophole tomfuckery and it's why the sound effects and slowdowns are so fucked in wotl

>>716239157
>he doesn't know about the "drawer full of USB-drives" -backup standard

>>716239819
Stop making excuses you dumb fucking nigger

>>716239747
It's not a remake of Tactics Advance, dude. It's a remake of the PS1 original. Different game, entirely original source code. It would've been nothing more than a FFTA mod if they used the GBA source.

If it used the original code it would be a remaster.

>>716239907
JUST USE THAT CODE AS A BASE THEN QUIT BEING A FUCKING CORPO DICK SUCKING FAGGOT

>>716238917 (OP)
Didn’t Square lose the source codes for FF8 and KH1 too? Yet those games both got rereleases and remasters.

>>716238917 (OP)
Did you check above the bookshelf?

>>716239935
No shit.

>>716240126
KH1 was literally rebuilt from scratch

>>716240020
You really are one of those morons who think it would be just that easy, wouldn't you? You actually have no idea what you're talking about, bro. In a case like this, it actually is the easier route to start from scratch than to try and hammer FFTA into an accurate FFT remake, even with the FFTA source code available.
And the easiest approach would be emulation.

>>716239649
pretty much
but they are retarded
tactic ogre reborn was like $60...they really don't want people to play their games

>>716240190
Maybe I’m just jaded, but part of me doubts that because KH1’s remasters are a perfect 1:1 recreation of the original PS2 game. You’d think modern devs would have missed something due to incompetence, yet every detail is there. Same goes for FF8, which has both the original version and the 2019 remaster on digital stores to this day.

And yet you can still buy the original with almost the same graphical quality for half the price. What’s going on with this company?

>>716239253
The PSP version was so scuffed that you needed to install a fan patch to run it at 100%, they didn't have the source code.
But then again Bluepoint during the PS3 era based their remasters on the final code ps2 discs discs as well, and they were by far the best out of the competition.

>>716238917 (OP)
if they built it from scratch why are they leaving out dark knight and other wotl stuff

>>716238917 (OP)
>we lost the source code of [insert game]. You need to understand, it was not common to make backup copies of the source code in games made during [insert game year release].
No matter the game, no matter the year. Japs being cheapskates.

>>716240165
I'm saying you don't need to announce a remake doesn't use the original code because they shouldn't ever do that so the whole thing is a waste of time. And I feel gamerstm really don't understand that.

As example, Resident Evil 3 has "cut content", you say. Cut from what? Do you know personally they had levels designed and then they trashed them? And even if they did, would it matter? I'm not saying the game is good btw.

>>716238917 (OP)
>game discs still exist
>”w-we lost the code!!”
Nope
And I won’t accept some charlatan telling me source code is different from the disc data. I don’t know what arcane schizo babble you use to convince yourself, but vidya code is not akashic knowledge
It exists already if a game is finished
It is not lost

>>716241335
Before Bluepoint started doing assy remakes they did very good remasters using retail disc copies.

they just chucked the source code and kept some shittier port code. japan does it a lot

I preordered it and just got the base game after seeing the deluxe edition came with cheater items

>>716241335
That's not how source code works. When you compile your code, it has to scramble all the text and data into something that is readable for a computer than human eyes. You can't unbake a cake, so to speak. It is why most "decompilation projects" are really more reverse engineering projects, figuring out what the devs did and building backwards from there. Eating the cake and guessing what ingredients it is made out of.
Combine with the fact that everyone and everything responsible for making the original code likely aren't at the company anymore, and you see why "losing the source code" is a real deal.

Funny thing is if square didn't hate Nintendo so much and made FFT for a Nintendo console the source code would have been well preserved.

>>716238917 (OP)
WotL was 2009 wannit

>>716240020
TA plays almost nothing like Tactics you mong

>>716241335
>source code is different from the disc data
But it actually is.

This is old info and has been discussed before. Source code preservation wasn’t a thing back then. The interview even takes about how when they’d do localizations they would just write over the originals too.

>picture of Chad next to delete button
>final fantasy.exe

I love these sorts of threads. Really shows how little gamers know about how the games they play are made. Which is a damn shame, honestly. Take a little interest in your hobby works.

>>716239295
Decompilation takes time, resources, and knowledge, something that cuts into a bottom line. It can take several years on end for hobbyists to decompile a single old video game, and no major company on this earth has hobbyist autists like what the Sonic community has to offer to cut that time in half. Plus I can just about assure you the efforts for decompiling something simply don't have any company stooges lying around to try; it's a very particular set of information, breaking down an old game's code tit for tat into something a modern OS and CPU/GPU can properly hash out.

Everyone that goes "Just go find an old copy, you have the code, bam!" genuinely does not understand what it actually takes to get that code and salvage it into something that doesn't need an emulator, never mind that corporations won't put aside the money for it. The rare exceptions you get are shit like the Mega Man Legacy Collections starting from the Zero/ZX side of things that give you native ports of the respective games, and that's probably because Capcom internal managed to keep their old code around for those games specifically.

>>716239935
It is just a remaster.

>>716243985
And even still they're not all native ports. The Battle Network Collection is a mix of emulation and translation layers.

>>716243574
They were a thing back then, but not for certain companies especially Japanese. Stop defending Square's incompetence

>>716240649
KH1+2 isn't the same, they censored panties
Sora and other models are different too.
Audio is also broken.

>>716243985
I see, thats why I specified I wasnt a dev

I had assumed once you had the game ready, you "packaged" it as an executable file with a compiler the same way you turn a folder full of files into a 7z archive with 7zip,and that's what went into the cartridges. Logically, if you threw that into the compiler, it would decompile and spit back the constituent files in their original state back, or is that not how it works?

>>716240827
Because it didn't align with their ultimate vision. Please understand; no, those additional jobs won't be replaced with jobs we wanted to add instead. No, multiplayer on a PC port would be unnecessary. Animated cutscenes? You can uhh view those from the menu. New battles and events? No, nothing more is needed, the original was perfect, as the original devs we aren't adding anything.

>>716245563
Not how it works. Anon's "can't unbake a cake" is effectively an extremely apt visual metaphor. The process to make a game gold and shippable effectively strips all of the needed inner workings of the source code, and so if you tried like you raised, it would spit out garbled nonsense.

>>716245563
That's not exactly how it works.
Compressing a file is just one layer of running an algorhythm that looks where it can clump together a bunch of 0s or 1s.
Like if at some point the code has "000001110000" you can save space by making it "503140" (idiotic example to get the point across).
Compiling source code involves more "translation layers" that translate something humans understand like "if (OP == gay) {type: "shut up fag"}" and ultimately turn that into 0s and 1s. Even assembly is hard to decompile.
It's a complexity issue, that's why it takes ages and at some point it's more efficient to just start from scratch.

>>716239157
Actually checks out, IIRC IX was in a similar state, people only really started getting anal about back-ups for finished projects and understanding their importance in 2000s, the 90ies was the WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT WE ARE DOING!? Dot-Com Bubble.´and a lot of playing by ear and improvised problem solving. Square having a "WE NEED THAT STORAGE SPACE FOR SOMETHING ELSE" is hardly surprising, this is "About to shit bed with Spirits Within" Square, the company wasn't exactly stable even with its successes.

>>716246619
And then you had Nintendo who saved fucking everything

>faggots surprised that SE loses its source code for their most beloved titles
>decide to "remaster" FFT without including any WotL content
Final Fantasy fans are gullible to a fault at this point.

>>716247196
I mean at the end of the day, War of the Lions added some extra fights and units, and the Rendezvous. And yet so many people bitch up and down the boulevard about the localization that they refused to touch it to begin with. Losing content sucks, the Pixel Remasters can attest to that, but do you REALLY need Balthier and Luso?

>>716244987
He means on a mechanical and logic front you ding dong
Kh1 plays exactly the same on og ps2 and the "remake" remaster

>>716247407
Was 100% of the content super great? No. Does that mean they couldn't even get inspired to add something other than the bare original? Their ambitions are clearly to make a port of the game for new systems. That would be fine but the price tag is insulting.

lol just decompile it???

>>716238917 (OP)
The biggest life lesson I ever learned from the anime "Getbackers" is that you can always get back whatever's been lost.