Thread 716240653

Based Nvidia, after fake resolution and fake frames. Now it's turn for fake textures:
https://overclock3d.net/news/gpu-displays/nvidia-neural-texture-compression-delivers-90-vram-savings-with-dxr-1-2/

How is it faster to have a neural net generate a smear pattern in real time compared to just have a picture glued onto something???

reminder that all the nvidia AI bullshit is bloatware & wasted compute power.

nvidia is so bloated that just by enabling freestyle filters it takes a 5-15% performance hit even if you have no freestyle filters enabled.

what's the point if you need stronger gpu to really take advantage of this as it's computationally expensive task

It would make sense for older cards, just like DLSS and frame gen, but instead they will be exclusive to only the latest gen cards.

>>716240653 (OP)
And how many resources does the AI use up?

>>716240653 (OP)
>vram savings
32gb is a fuckton of vram already what's the point

>>716240969
>It would make sense for older cards, just like DLSS and frame gen
DLSS and framegen don't make sense for old cards. This is just how poorfags like to co-opt things and pretend they were made for them. DLSS works better the higher your output resolution is, which means it's best for 4k-8k. Framegen works best for 70+fps, not people who struggle with getting to that fps. DLSS is for people with good computers, not a crutch for poorfags because it produces worse results there.

it runs on AYMD as well

>>716243741
Is the performance hit as bad on Njudea cards?

>>716240746
It's not, but it requires less VRAM, so Nshitia will do it.

>>716243741
It'll run on every card. This is one of those "cooperative rendering" things AMD/Nvidia/Intel are all doing at the same time. But it'll work for future games only, I don't see this working retroactively unless some really extensive modding comes into play.

>>716244221
Could they add it into RTX remix to apply it older games?

>>716243741
>>716243832
>almost 1000 fps shaved
what in the fuck...

>>716244373
Doesn't RTX Remix only run on DirectX9 and older? I don't think you can run out of VRAM on games that old.

>>716241841
The points is that useless devs can keep being inept

>>716241841
Because they are still selling 8gb cards for some fucking reason.

>>716243832
>A single model having its textures compressed cuts the framerate by a fucking third
Yet another Nvidia tech gimmick that will be used by a dozen games total, run horribly because of it, and then stops being supported by new Nvidia cards five years later.

>>716240746
It's dramatically slower but it gives Nvidia an excuse to keep selling you GPUs with insufficient VRAM. Everything below the 5090 drops a tier of performance when enabling this.

>>716240653 (OP)
>Njewia doing acrobatics just to avoid giving you 4GB (15 buxxx) worth of extra vram

Why are they like this?

>>716240969
Framegen eats up a significant chunk of your base fps to achieve in 90% of games. 60fps native (x2 to ~90fps) means you'll have the latency and smearing of 45fps. It's especially bad on older cards and not worth using at all.
I've only found it useable when I'm already 100+fps and use it to hit 120 or 144

>>716244412
>he plays sub 2300fps
pleb...

>>716245995
>implying that human eyes can see more than 2 fps
lmao noob

>>716240653 (OP)
Will this work on a 3070?

The only texture compression I want to hear about is people fixing their bloated file sizes

>>716240653 (OP)
Cool, I guess they can start skimping on VRAM even harder now and go back to 4GB.

>at the low cost of over 25% of your FPS, you can have the textures of your game take up less space
>but we won't compress the audio or anything
>games will still be over 80gb lol
>btw new cards will only have 4gb VRAM
At this point Nvidia should just abandon the video game sector. They're an AI company now

>>716248741
5090 has PhysX, 64-bit. Doesn't have 32-bit PhsyX which some 2010s games need to run their PhysX.

>buy a 5090 for 3000 dollars or pay 2500 for a 5070
>with fake frames
>fake resolution
>and fake textures
>or buy AMD (still worse)
nuke taiwan

>>716250298
>or pay 2500 for a 5070
in which insane shithole do you live where you have to pay 2500 for an rtx5070? in my country it's 630 euros which includes VAT

>>716240653 (OP)

Fake frames, fake textures, fake VRAM, fake video card.

>>716240653 (OP)
>>716250298
>>716251096
Define what real, ie. "non-fake" computer graphics are and how they differ from "fake" graphics.

fake graphics are mathematical derivates of the main rendering function. and they look worse hence fake,

>>716245506
It's all to prevent their consumer GPUs hurting their AI/workstation GPU sales.

>>716245506
If an Nvidia gaming GPU gets more VRAM, it turns into an AI mining card and it'll be near-impossible for a gamer to get their hands on it. Neural texture compression seems like a ridiculous workaround that allows the cards to essentially free up a lot more VRAM in videogames but the benefits of this won't extend to AI data server shit, so it's an attempt to solve the VRAM problem without dooming the cards to being enslaved to AI data server shit.

>>716250162
But Alice is 32 bit!

>>716251921
It's all fake, just like the outrage.

>>716244656
To poorfags yeah. Everybody who makes more than $20k a year has moved on to 96GB cards.

>>716245225
Bingo.

>>716240653 (OP)
Just put more vram in your fucking gpus. Fuck jewvidia.

>>716245835
The thing is, doubling 45 FPS isn't that bad. It adds some latency but it's acceptable for single player. When people say 60 FPS is a minimum for framegen it still holds true, they just meant somewhere in the 40s doubled to somewhere in the 80s-90s is acceptable, not that it literally has to be 120 or it sucks.

>gaming has gotten so bad that now GPUs come with an incompetency tax that consumers have to pay for studios on top of buying the games

bro this industry is a dead horse reanimated by jewish magic.

>>716253836
nice picture you lifted from reddit anon

>>716255657
Hey I got to flex my wealth somewhere